/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1889259
I was going to say that's too much but after quick looking around apparently the price of 2x4 studs is through the roof. I swear they were $2 or $2.50 the last time I bought them around February from Menards. I know there has been a shortage of treated lumber but I hadn't heard anything about studs.

>>1889259
why shouldnt a big hunk of wood cost 5?

>>1889287
apparently there's a lumber shortage now because of chinkaids.

I just know because I was going to have some work done on my place, but my carpenter doesn't want to do anything until lumber prices go back down.

this maybe a retarded idea but is it possible to treat your own lumber because untreated is 3.00

>>1889259
Go to a lumber yard you retard. Home Depot and Lowe's and the like add on the 1 dollar moron fee and a yard will fork lift it into your truck for you.

>>1889397
Not very effectively. You'd need a large vacuum chamber to get the treating chemicals into the board otherwise you're just treating the outside surface.

Shopped around for studs. I made today, home cheapo is actually the cheapest I found.

>>1889259
Douglas fir has near doubled in price since last i checked. They were less than $0.50/foot at beginning of year, but now are over $0.80/foot. That's just for 2x4 lengths. I imagine shit's crazy for everything else.

I read that one of the causes for the current lumber price increase/shortage has to do with Canada vs America. Supposedly tar rigs are being added to Canadian lumber. Not sure if this is the whole truth or not. Anyone else heard anything different? Cause the prices are absolute bullshit right now.

>>1889681
>decided to look into steel fence posts to replace some rotted ones

>$34 each

What in the goddamn

>>1889422
do americans really?
over the pond outdoor timbers are high pressure treated e.g. in a vac chamber but stick framing timber is mostly untreated and if treated usually its low pressure just painted on because it doesn't get washed wet it just gets damp and that is enough. interestingly big box stores will sell you high pressure treated stick framing timber but go to a merchant or yard and they will give you the eye if you ask for it.
saying that there is a sawmill near me that you can take basically anything he can forklift into his vac chamber and he will pressure treat it for you for basically cost.
prices are basically similar for easy edge but you go to a store you have to spend a few hours finding a few that aren't bananas

>>1889692
You won't find "surface treated" lumber in the US. You either get untreated lumber or fully treated lumber.

I ordered some 2x4x6' poplar board through Lowes, they said it would come in a few days, but ended up taking nearly a month to get to me. Lumber shortage sucks.

>>1889397
Its called oil based primer with routine maintenance. Now get to work you cheap bastard!

>>1889746
should have saved big money at Menards

>>1889287
Yes, Uneducated Economist on YouTube has been talking about this for a while. Lumber prices are through the roof right now. I'm guessing they will come back down when the housing market crashes at the end of the year / early next year

>>1889692
Interesting. I wonder if any lumber yards around me will pressure treat lumber for me.

>>1889444
That looks like a piece of crap that will fall apart in a few years.

>>1889259
Prices vary depending on location. If you are close to the mills and not across the country then they are cheaper.

>>1889444
>that rat scab framing
Wew!

Learn to frame a proper corner Paco.

>>1889259
The price of lumber is up, right now. It's kind of just tough shit.

Ah well I guess I just needed like 10-20 pieces to build a scaffold.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/2-in-x-3-in-x-8-ft-Whitewood-Stud-Common-1-5-in-x-2-5-in-x-96-in-Actual/1000507375

2x3x8s for 2.24 a pop seems like an alright price

>>1890062
Thanks for the lead, very informative

>>1889363
It's not just Chinkaids. There's some kinda bug that is fucking up pine trees really bad as well.

>>1890557
Also looks like China stopped importing raw logs from USA and the 30% tariffs we have racked into Canada lumber imports.

>>1889259
OP, if you're going to "home cheapo", you should use a 10-20% off coupon you can buy online from ebay or a site like https://www.lowesdeals.com/
I use these fucking coupons every time I have to buy supplies from the big box store, and they cost around 1$ a piece for the 10% off ones. They've saved me thousands over the last few years.
You used to be able to buy (stolen?) gift cards/store credit at a discount online to use with them, but now they have put a stop to that by requiring store credit to be tied to your ID

Also, as far as treatment is concerned, you can brush on a solution of borax to treat the wood; it's available as commercial solutions as well (Tim-bor etc) and is a super economical and effective technique for wood that won't be actively wetted. In other words, its good for framing lumber, but not so much for ground contact/underground use. There are relevant research findings and technical standards available regarding this method if you have a quick search. Pic related.

Time to embrace metal stud gringo

>>1889969
Lol the nearest Menards is 1200+ miles away

>>1889681
Can’t be true because they’re $5 each here in Canada

>>1890705
Lol they used to have $30’off $60 coupons that actually would take $30 off any amount. I bought enough flooring to do a 2k sqf house. All came in $32 boxes so paid almost nothing for it. Then I started buying lumber to resell but the Lowe’s caught on

>>1890110
Baste and redpilled, MAGA shadylay

>>1889259
Shits expensive now. Used to be like $2.50 for kiln dried now it's $4.50 at home depot for shit that is guaranteed to warp on you within a couple of days or $5 from the lumber yard for properly dried 2x4s bit they are all chewed the fuck up by shitty blades. I just built a medium sized shed that measures about 250 square feet and the lumber alone ran me well over a thousand. Shit was so expensive (cheapest plywood I could find was $25, pressure treated 4x4x8s were fucking $17) that I had to modify my design. I had to go fucking stagger 6 feet on center and 4 feet on center studs for the walls and 3 feet on the roof. I couldn't justify building it to spec when to do so I'd be looking at another 2-3k for fucking studs that are either bowed on three edges or chopped up and structurally unsound.

Shits bad. The price is through the roof and quality is way the fuck down.

>>1890065
What? No. They buy it and store it until it is purchased. Wood is treated/finished by the mill. If you are building something outdoors at a minimum the pieces that will be contacting the ground need to be treated. But also with treated lumber you have to make sure you are using fasteners that can handle it, the majority of screws will corrode pretty quickly in pressure treated wood because they use copper to treat them and most metals corrode when they contact other metal.

Which, I have noticed that the box stores by me seem to have fucking nothing in stock as far as screws go. The vast majority of screws at my home Depot are not rated for anything structural. Best I can find is interior structural screws in shit sizes or outdoor non structural screws.

It's a shitshow out there.

>>1889444
>Those trusses
>That split completely in half wood
>That fucking framing
Jesus christo Juan the fucking shitshack I built is way the fuck out of spec and looks a million times sturdier than that.

>>1889444
nice bro those California corners are the most efficient way to go!!!

>>1889287
I knew they were fucking crazy!
price for one here in canada is near 6 bucks!

>>1889444
Nigga wtf, you you could have fixed this with a circular saw

>>1893287
>Trump puts tariffs on Canadian wood
>wood gets more expensive in canada
Man you guys are pretty cucked. How are the meat prices up there?

>>1889259
Holy shit I just went to Shlomo Depot and it's $5 for a 2x4x7.5'. they didn't even have 2x4x8 studs. The next size up was 8.5' and it was $5.30 a piece to have to bring it home and cut the extra half foot off each piece.

>>1890528
How dumb can you be to do this? They have to know that water is heavy, whole thing risks collapse.

>>1894369
Notice the distinct lack of whiteness. There's your answer.

>>1894369
I see nothing wrong with Darwinism be practically applied.

>>1889259
Yes, by all means. Go to the perfume counter at Macy's and ask them about "sandalwood".

>>1889259
you should try to get the best planks, close to the heartwood

>>1890557
if its bark beetle, that shits coming from china too

>>1889444
That's fucking terrible, you have no idea what you're doing.

>>1895018
It's fine to paint your brakes like this though, the paint will come right off. It's not any worse than having wet brakes.

>>1893979
It came out nice. Don't be mean

>>1897658
Nigger, is your roof being held together by like one nail per truss into a 2x4?

>>1897682
*going the wrong way into 2x4 at that

>>1897658
looks good anon suggest to enclose the overhang framing to keep the crawly critters out of the corners

>>1889363
The hurricanes won’t help either plywood usually has shortages from people boarding up windows and shit

>>1889444
Homeless Despot lumber is uneven and warped to shit. Unless you have a planer, it's worth it to go to a lumber supplier.

>>1898945
whenever I do a project with my buddy we go thru the whole stack
checking each one from both ends and putting shit ones on the floor
we leave em there too, sorry wagies but fuck they should be in the trash anyway

>>1889681
I see made in Sweden all over my wood I buy now. Especially any 1*4 1*6 or 1*10

>>1898981
You know the 2x4s are graded. You just need to pay more money and they'll be much better