/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1845707
You and everyone who operates one of those clanky noise contraptions in public should be rounded up and used as cheap cattle feed.

Tow around a solar panel instead, or lay off the meth for a few weeks and spend a couple hundred more on a used Honda 2000.

>>1845716
well, this was $230. A used honda 2000 is $600+, new $1000. Why do I need that extra hassle? I only can use 300-400 watts of juice.

So are you going to help me make a sound-deadener box for it? Otherwise, shut your pie hole, these little gens aren't even that loud to begin with.

>>1845707
A normal bike will cost you nothing and you do not need need to tow around extra weight, not to mention you will most likely live longer with a higher quality of life.

>>1845723
Why are you even on this thread... this board... its DIY not ADV. sod off.

>>1845721
You can do a decent job of directing noise away from neighbors using something as simple as a sheet of plywood propped up on one side of it. As for a permanent box, I would think anything other than a security box made of expanded metal would contribute to overheating.

>>1845735
hmm, good point, but I was thinking of something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGt97K2Bobw

and adding a fan to it for passthrough ventilation, should lower the noise to be undetected at 22 feet. thoughts?

I'm looking for complete stealth, so the only thing people think I'm dragging behind me is groceries. Thanks.

>>1845737
>noise to be undetected at 22 feet. thoughts?
>I'm looking for complete stealth, so the only thing people think I'm dragging behind me is groceries. Thanks.
You're serious? Not possible with that claptrap. And not a good idea to enclose any generator to that extent.

>>1845738
well, it will at least mask where the sound is coming from if I have side panels and a roof, right?

>>1845730
Because a big part of the reason to do DIY is to better ones life.

>>1845742
haha, check out that fag guys. what a fag. go back to adv, hm, and lbtq

>>1845748
Ohh, you put me in my place, the shame and humilation I feel right now, how will my reputation ever recover? Oh, this is anonymous and a posters knowledge is based solely upon the content of their post and not their reputation. Your post demonstates knowledge of nothing beyond 4chan, not even life, good luck anon.

>>1845756
teehee. seethe more. also: try to add /diy/ content next time and be less of a fag. I know its hard for you.

>>1845716
>Tow around a solar panel instead
Not OP, but you don’t know anything about how solar battery power works, do you

>>1845775
>more meme insults
Do you have any ability to think for yourself?

>>1845791
yes.

>>1845707
>ebike,
Have you told your parents that you are gay ?

>>1845707
if you live in such a location where you are likely to be harassed by police for towing a running generator, what you should do is use the gen at home to charge a bank and tow the bank around instead. Take the generator with you if you are biking outside of whatever communist shithole you live in.

>>1845821
yes, and they're cool with it.
yours aren't?

>>1845707
what a stupid idea. A large power bank would serve you better, and make no noise.

>>1845721
>So are you going to help me make a sound-deadener box for it? Otherwise, shut your pie hole
how not to get help. OP lives in an echo chamber.

>>1845737
>I'm looking for complete stealth
not going to happen.

>>1845748
stop raging against legitimate advice.

>>1845707
Regen braking, 12v batteries, solar panels, you good and discrete.

There are a bunch of enclosed trailers you can buy for bicycles. Try not to set it on fire.

>>1845785
Yeah I do. I've installed multiple off grid systems.

>>1845935
so how can you recommend someone get any appreciable power with solar on a bike?

>>1846153
Not on a bike. On a trailer behind a bike. One panel and one battery will be plenty to charge a phone, laptop etc. The battery doesn't even need to be very big, or even necessarily in good working order, if you only want to use your laptop during the day. It just needs to be there to be a buffer between the panel and charge controller and your charger.

This wouldn't be nearly enough to charge the ebike though. I didn't read that at first honestly. Charge the bike at home, or if OP is homeless then sell the gay ebike and get a pedal/gas bike for a few hundred bucks and attach your trailer to that. Pic related, here's mine I'm building as we speak, by complete coincidence.

That piece of shit generator will piss off everyone within a 2 mile radius every second it's operated. Fucking things need to be destroyed with prejudice and the dirtbags that bring them to camp grounds and run them all fucking day long need to be executed.

>>1846178
Forgot picture

just subtract the sound wave with a negative mirrored wave with a big ass speaker

>>1846178
>That piece of shit generator will piss off everyone within a 2 mile radius every second it's operated. Fucking things need to be destroyed with prejudice and the dirtbags that bring them to camp grounds and run them all fucking day long need to be executed.

>>1846204
>you go first
I did. My house is solar powered.

>>1845707
Wait wait wait... hold the fucking phone here. You bought an E-Bike, one of those pieces of shit that's supposed to save the environment and be quiet by being electric and stuff - and you're going to attach a shitty ICE on a trailer on the back? Why not spend only a small fraction of what you did and get a regular bicycle and a 4stroke engine kit?

>>1845707
Why not just buy a car you hippy

>>1846256
Solar/bike engine guy from above, here.

This.

>>1846256
one word: flexibility. I can skip through neighborhoods quietly and on the open runs get some recharge by running the generator.

>>1846178
>That piece of shit generator will piss off everyone within a 2 mile radius
The sound diminishes greatly after 26 feet, of course the idea is not to run it in a public park, but where I'm near the street on on a trail along the highway, the noise box is just subterfuge, so its not immediately noticeable, but if someone gets their snout all up in it, they are going to know what's up.

>>1846292
>The sound diminishes greatly after 26 feet
You seem confused so let me say this again in different words:
You're wrong, that fucking obnoxious noise machine can be heard from miles around, I hate you and everyone like you.

I'm really not trying to just be a dick. I have built multiple off grid solar set ups, multiple engine driven bicycles, owned multiple generators, talked many people out of owning useless noise machines, and even sabotaged generators operated by dickheads who surely thought 'this piece of shit was the cheapest available and therefore everyone around me should listen to it all the fucking time.'

No.

Don't listen to my advice if you're that determined not to. But you came here asking questions, and the answer is you're going about it wrong.

I am in San Diego right now and about to drive to Oregon. If you have an actual discrete project that you actually need help with, I will even volunteer to stop by in Vegas and give you pointers. Maybe even help you with my tools. But I will not endorse running that goddamn noise generator for any fucking reason.

If you're just homeless and running the cheapest shit you can find and don't care to learn or improve yourself, then godspeed, carry on, enjoy your meth, and I hope you stumble across a poisoned bottle of Mad Dog 20/20.

>>1846396
ok, I appreciate the good faith and opinionated help that you are trying to impart -- I truly do.

But you seem to be saying that building a mobile sound box is impossible -- or you don't know if possible?

For example, materials that absorb the sound + air gap between the layers + baffle on the exhaust + intake air fan for cooling.

Are you saying that's not possible in your humble opinion, or that you don't know anything about that and you just hate these small gas gens?

Your offer to aide a fellow anon IRL is bro-tier, and I do appreciate.

fuckin bums i swear to god

>>1846428
Okay. No, I have never attempted to build a sound-proof enclosure for a generator. My intuition and basic knowledge of thermodynamics tells me that any attempt to do so would be fruitless and only contribute to overheating of the generator. I might be wrong, but, even if I am wrong..... I would still recommend beginning with a generator that is moderately quiet in the first place.

Have you listened to a variety of generators and other small engine appliances?

Honda 2000 sounds like:
>bbluuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

The cheap shit generator you pictured or any Harbor Freight generator or any shit like that sounds like:
>BLLLLLAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH *PAP* BBBLLAAAARRAGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *CHUG CHUG* BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *PAP PAP* BLLLLLHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAblrgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*PAP*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Why the fuck are you attempting to engineer some sound-deadening box with extra electrical requirements for fans ventilation etc, when you could just have one solar panel and one battery? Please sell that shitty generator to a different meth head and learn from your failtures beginning immediately.

Also, sorry for sounding like an asshole, I'm getting drunk at this hour. I do not hate all small gas generators but I DO hate the ones such as in your picture that are better designed as obnoxious noise machines than as electrical generators.

Seriously, if you are homless it would be much more efficient to run a gas bike than to try to keep rolling your ebike. This is coming from a person who has not had a physical address in over five years.

>>1846431
I both agree and also take offense

>>1846453
I just want to point out... [pic]
and the reviews are 4+

I don't know that its going to be that bad, if it is as bad as you say I can just return in (home depot)

>>1846472
we don't need to wonder, here's a review of the sound these make: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Z-Xdw3Gr0

>>1846472
>but it says a subjective thing right on the label!
>reviews are good!

Don't take this the wrong way but. Know how I know you're young and/or don't leave the house much?

>>1846476
maybe I just think I can {{absorb the sound}} without causing a problem or overheating. Its worth trying. Here's another video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbJ0UIwNyec

>>1846475
I hate those fucking things so fucking much

>>1846481
you said that about 5 times now.
the purpose of this thread is to investigate and discuss sound deadening solutions.

>>1846479
I almost died from autism overdose trying to even skip through this video.

>>1846483
>you said that about 5 times now
Fair, but I stand by it.

>>1846489
here's a real world stress test... i love the idea of solar but when every starbucks is closed and there are not external outlets to charge my battery, gotta do something extreme like going to a gen, sorry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR3hQgMUR1c

>>1846493
Didn't click your video but please explain, why can you not plan your cell/laptop useage around daytime hours? Especially if you are this desperate / homeless on the street. You don't need a Starbucks or a generator to continue electronic useage after dark..... go to sleep you fucking bum.

>>1846496
I can't power an eBike on solar alone, it needs this kind of juice to get me going, I range 25 miles on some days, and I'm fucked without power. This thing will keep me going 100 miles, potentially, without needing to worry about charging a battery either inside or all day from 100w solar panel. I mean, right? 100 watt solar, are you kidding me? I'd need/want 400-500 watt.

>>1846497
thing can run AC too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1I678bLOk8

Op the biggest problem you're going to have is overheating, those things get farkin hot sitting in the shade with free airflow, if you try and muffle the sound you're going to have to restrict a lot of air flow around it even with fans and the more fans you add for cooling the less sound suppression you'll have coz of the holes for the fans.

>>1846497
Oh my fuckin' god! get a god damn motor bike you fuckin' git. You can fuel up anywhere, use the alternator/generator to charge shit.

>>1846396
>You're wrong, that fucking obnoxious noise machine can be heard from miles around, I hate you and everyone like you.
not OP, and I think OP is a tard, however you are wrong, that sportsman generator (I have that exact one) is extremely quiet I use it when I go camping to power a portable evaporative cooler.
you cannot hear it out side of my camp site. It's not like a big ol' old style generator.

>>1846396
>even sabotaged generators
hopefully someone will catch you and beat the ever loving shit out of you.

>>1845707
jesus christ if it will get OP to go away and generator hater to fuck off as well heres how to build your god damn sound deadner.

FUCKMERUNNING!
build a box about 4 inches larger than the outside dimensions of the generator.
line it with egg crate. vent the box with a 4 inch pipe pointing straight up.

get a 12 volt boat bilge ventilator fan 130cfm.

connect the bilge vent fan to blow IN to the box.

Put a 12v 10 amp pwm motor speed controller on the fan.

connect the 12v vent fan to the 12v outlet on the generator or a battery. beware that it can draw as much as 10 amps.

Now an explanation of why:

4 inches allows air flow around the generator.
the vent pipe pointing up will send most of the noise not absorbed by the egg crate upwards. the higher the vent pipe the quieter it will be.

The bilge fan we create a positive pressure in the box helping the engine get are and move a lot of cooling air around it.

the pwm controller allows you to control the fan speed to find the optimum air flow with the lowest noise since bilge fans are kind of loud.

everything I talked about is available on ebay.

cost should be less than $100.

now fuck off.

>>1845707
jesus christ if it will get OP to go away and generator hater to fuck off as well heres how to build your god damn sound deadner.

FUCKMERUNNING!
build a box about 4 inches larger than the outside dimensions of the generator.
line it with egg crate. vent the box with a 4 inch pipe pointing straight up.

get a 12 volt boat bilge ventilator fan 130cfm.

connect the bilge vent fan to blow IN to the box.

Put a 12v 10 amp pwm motor speed controller on the fan.

connect the 12v vent fan to the 12v outlet on the generator or a battery. beware that it can draw as much as 10 amps.

Now an explanation of why:

4 inches allows air flow around the generator.
the vent pipe pointing up will send most of the noise not absorbed by the egg crate upwards. the higher the vent pipe the quieter it will be.

The bilge fan will create a positive pressure in the box helping the engine get air and move a lot of cooling air around it.

the pwm controller allows you to control the fan speed to find the optimum air flow with the lowest noise since bilge fans are kind of loud.

everything I talked about is available on ebay.

cost should be less than $100.

now fuck off.

>>1846708
should look something like this

>>1846178
>The battery doesn't even need to be very big, or even necessarily in good working order, if you only want to use your laptop during the day. It just needs to be there to be a buffer between the panel and charge controller and your charger.
Yeah you don’t know shit about solar

>>1846708
>>1846710
brilliant thanks!

>>1846717
/diy/ my ass.

>>1845707
>no place to go for free wifi
Most fastfood and libraries have free wifi.
Unless you are one of those retards that think wifi is internet. Wifi is not the internet.

>>1846872
>Most fastfood and libraries have free wifi.
>Unless you are one of those retards that think wifi is internet. Wifi is not the internet.

I guess I am retarded. I've never used public wifi, but I assumed that public wifi gave you access to the internet. What does it give you access to?

>>1846719
I can't tell if you're being facetious or not, but to pipe up the exhaust is my key takeaway, I was just going to send it out the back. But piping it up should reduce the sound, as suggested. Not sure about the heat build up, but that strong fan will be the test.

>>1845721
>shut your pie hole
Ok so, first off, not that anon but you legit sound like a degenerate bum.

However you make me laugh and I like the cut of yer jib lil fella.

Hypothetically speaking of course, I may or may not have a friend, who may have, at one time, in an alternate universe, who used dropped ceiling tiles to insulate a wooden box that housed a large inline fan, for the purpose of moving large amounts of air for completely legal reasons. In this hypothetical scenario, the fan was loud as shit and could be heard throughout both floors of a domicile. After being placed in the box, surrounded by the tiles, and the box being screwed shut, the fan could barely be heard while standing in the room it operated in.

The tiles makes a lot of dust after being as the cut edges constantly drop “shavings” whenever touched. This is easily remedied by working 100% silicone along and into the edges with a gloved hand. They can be attached to the wood with just drywall screws. Just tighten them enough to snug them into the tiles obviously.

The tiles are also fire resistant so that should be good for your gas powered hobo contraption.


https://www.lowes.com/pd/armstrong-ceilings-common-12-in-x-12-in-actual-11-985-in-x-11-985-in-impression-40-pack-white-textured-surface-mount-acoustic-tile-ceiling-tiles/50301815?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-bdm-_-google-_-lia-_-102-_-suspendedceilings-_-50301815-_-0&store_code=1679&placeholder=null&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjpDE6o6U6gIVBL7ACh1eHQnyEAQYAyABEgIaufD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

>>1846182
damn nice

>>1846872
>>1846876
I also am confused. I’ve never connected to public WiFi, or any WiFi for that matter for any purpose other than accessing the fabled World Wide Web.

>>1846876
>>1847066
The Internet is TCP/IP. The most used protocols on top of that is HTTP and DNS. Many "free" wifi services will block anything else (smtp, ssh, etc), hence the distinction the other Anon is making.

>>1847075
What? The internet is IGRP and BGP

>>1847075
I’m not technically educated. I’m also not a coomer so maybe that’s why I’ve never needed to do anything I couldn’t on public WiFi.

>>1847054
>for the purpose of moving large amounts of air for completely legal reasons

just a completely off-topic question, but did you guys have an overgrown garden out back, ya know, lots of weeds? I used to but there was this dollar store that sold great herbicide and it only cost $3.99 + 21 cents tax.

>>1847078
all cooming that I know of happens over HTTPS

>>1847094
You sound as if you are trying to be edgy but only come off as a try hard because you fail to understand an outdoor grow doesn’t require cooling for lights as it utilizes the ball of fire in the sky lol.

Generator hater here. Sorry for drunkposting last night, but I maintain that it is pants-on-head-retarded to have an electric bike and tow around a gas powered generator to charge the electric bike. Can you see how inefficient that is? A gas bike gets 80-100 miles on one gallon. That generator is bigger than the engine that would drive the bike, and you wouldn't need the trailer. You could probably even use the magneto from the engine to charge a small battery for use charging your phone and laptop.

>>1847246
OP here, and then you never ever ever ever ever have stealth when you are riding by swanky neighborhoods, or parks with families or the fucking cops.

I think we'll just agree to disagree on the concept.

>>1847266
1) that's what pedaling is for
2) it's not illegal even if someone doesn't like it
3) you think the swanky neighborhoods appreciate seeing some homemade box-generator-trailer thing more?

I know what it's like to be conspicuous in a swanky neighborhood.

>>1847270
>conspicuous

looks comfy, but zero stealth... ever been messed with?

>>1847266
Those little two stroke engine kits they sell for bikes can actually get pretty god damn quiet if you don't mind throwing out the stock garbage muffler. quiet as in 30 feet and you won't hear it.

also yeah, pedaling exists.

>>1846699
Being deaf is not comparable to a quiet generator, anon.

>>1847306
being stupid and ignoring facts is not an argument Mumpsimus.

>>1847270
now was that so hard? it's the pic I asked for a week or so ago.

>>1847526
you're not the boss of me.

>>1847526
It was never a secret, I was simply not obligated to indulge you.

>>1846876
Wifi is wireless networking. It can be used with and without the internet and there are devices that use Wifi but don't have any access at all to the internet such as Wifi Flash Drives.

my gen arrives at home depot today, shall I post an unboxing pic for my new DIY friends?

honestly, because of "gen hate" guy, I'm thinking about just getting one of these and maybe a solar panel and telling home depot to forget it and get my money back.

>>1847666
NAH, because devil trips I know that's a bad idea

also 166 Wh is like powering a 100 W light bulb for 90 mins, I need my 500 Watts continuous. Its worth it to get the gen.

>>1847659
>shall I post an unboxing pic for my new DIY friends?

No

>>1847671
ok, allow me to rephrase then, CAN I post an unboxing pic for my new DIY friends?

>>1847674

this board allows you to post utter garbage. hey wait, that's what you're proposing. GO RIGHT AHEAD SON.

>>1847684
ummkay poppi, I'll post it.

>>1845716
Kek, solar panels... Do some research so you can laugh at yourself with the rest of us.
>>1845707
Op if your ebike works like mine you'll have to run the generator for quite a while to charge the battery. Basically you'll want an insulated box that also has a vent for the exhaust. You'll need to install a couple of small fans to keep it cool; one blowing air into the intake and one sucking air out at the exhuast point. Since you're in Vegas and it's hot AF, you could make your box larger and install copper or aluminum radiator fins for extra cooling (check a local scrapyard.) I would look for old radiant wall heaters or pull a radiator or two out of old vehicles. So, the order of things is generator, radiator fins, insulation with high heat rating (rockwool, may do the trick), outer box material (wood or plastic).
You'll also want to come up with some way to stabilize the compressor in the middle. I'm thinking long bolts or threaded rods that go all the way through the box and hold the compressor in place. Use rubber washers at all contact points to reduce vibration

>>1847704
see
>>1846708
>>1846710

>>1846178
He wants the generator to charge his bike, not a cell phone. A solar panel and a small battery will not do it. Especially because his bike is likely not 12v, which means he'll need a converter and a charge controller. Why don't we just add wings and a propeller to OPs claptrap so it's extra bulky and noticeable. Oh and maybe some motor cycle tires for the extra weight.

>>1847704
thanks bro! will add to my design sheet. I will post a proud daddy pic once I get this thing built, first I got to get the gen in house, arriving at the store today, and then break it in, test it, etc.

>>1847717
exactly.

ok, I just realized my ebike battery charger is only 42 volts and 2 amps

Which means, if I learned 2nd grade math right, 84 Watts. Jesus monkey balls this is exactly right.
>>1847704
>you'll have to run the generator for quite a while

well the point is, I'll be stopped when using it under a tree or something, working on the laptop, etc, so the gen will serve power to multiple things including the ebike charger.

>>1847721
Also, buy yourself some earplugs, so you don't go deaf in case the insulated box design doesn't work out. You may want to consider a second battery as well. Then you can charge the backup battery while riding the open road and just get an adapter and use the bike battery to power your laptop so don't have a gas generator popping and firing a couple feet from your head during your quiet time.

>>1847734
Having 2 batteries would also allow you to do longer distance rides. Maybe even continuous except for swapping batteries

>>1847734
its only 76 db up close, under 80 is not harmful, that's a low hum, brah.

>>1847739
>under 80 is not harmful
*for 8 hours
The OSHA guidelines are based on what OSHA determined was acceptable over 8hr periods to provide workers a "reasonable" preservation of their hearing. You can still get NIHL from chronic exposure to noises quieter than 80dB, the exposure times are just longer.

i.e. "if you follow these guidelines you can expect to not have too much hearing loss until retirement age, after that we don't care how much you lost on the job lol"

Also 76dB is not a low hum, that's quite loud, like running a vacuum in an adjacent room with the door open.

Get your hearing checked anons. from the sound of it many of you except "ban all generators" cuckmobile anon seem to have NIHL based on your perception of one of those generators being "barely audible"

>>1847750
>Get your hearing checked anons.
done and done. I have low level hearing loss and high frequency hearing loss and tinnitus. I wear noise cancelling headphones when in loud environments.

>>1847734
you can tell someone who is full of shit, like this guy for example.

First off goofus I already own the exact generator op shows in his original post. It's very quiet and ear plugs are not needed, I used it when camping and putting it at the end of a 25 foot cord is far enough away that you can have a normal conversation with people.

also I have 5 generators including 1 I built myself. none them "pop".

>>1847750
seriously you should research before you open mouth insert foot and chew vigorously.

76db is only 16 over a normal conversation.

A washing machine puts out 70db

city traffic inside a car is about 80db

over 85db is where hearing damage begins to occur.
>>1847750
>Get your hearing checked anons.
mine has been checked and thanks to my wearing hearing protection when needed I do not have much if any hearing loss. thank you for your concern.

>>1847863
based and inverter-generator pilled.

>>1845707

OP this is what you really want

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMugd-wGD0

>>1847880
interesting, might be practical in death valley.

>>1847880
its an oddity and only for greenie weirdos. Talk about a claptrap. I prefer a 17 pound 1000w generator I can lift with 1 fucking finger.

>>1847666
Generator hater here. I would not recommend buying any of those pre-packaged 'generators' (not generators) which only combine a battery and an inverter and charge you a markup for the privilege. The batteries in them are always inferior compared to what you could buy separately. They're just charging you for a convenient package and no performance.

>>1847670
>>1847704
>>1847717
>>1847721
>>1847734
>>1847738
>>1847739
>>1847750
Problems that would be solved with a $300 gas bike, instead of a $1,500 electric bike, gas generator, trailer, and masochistic experiments in efficiency loss. Enjoy sitting under a tree with your claptrap rattling when you have somewhere to be and it's not charged yet.

Okay I'll stop posting now because no one cares to hear it.

>>1847739
>>1847863
Great to know you're unbothered standing next to a generator. I find them loud and obnoxious, just as I find gas powered bikes loud and obnoxious. I've done hearing tests with groups of people and usually I can hear both lower and higher tones than others. I'm not saying I'm special, my ears just work well because I never fucked them up by spending a lot of time in loud environments. I wear earplugs when I need to vacuum because it's more pleasant. I don't live near city traffic and would not. I leave the house or close doors if a washer is running. For what it's worth, I've heard generators pop. I've heard them make all kinds of noise. Spend a few years as a maintenance worker and you'll encounter all sorts of generator noises.
And like the other anon spewing his hate for them, I absolutely hate when someone brings a loud ass generator into the serenity of a forest campground. And honestly, all generators are loud in the forest.

Here it is, just broke seal on box

#exciting

>>1847941
>I absolutely hate when someone brings a loud ass generator into the serenity of a forest campground. And honestly, all generators are loud in the forest.
This

>>1847941
excellent I will now bring the loudest generator with me when I camp. I will run it even when I don't need to purely because your caspar milquetoast kinda guy.

>>1847985
You sound like the kind of guy who does shit like this and then complains about
>everyone gives me the short end of the stick
>everyone is an asshole and I don't know why
>reeeeee I do nothing wrong and people hate me for existing

>>1847750
Fuck you nigger if I want to blare my radio with treble all the way up and bass all the way down on max volume I will. It makes my life more comfortable in noisy environments. You don't need gay ass hearing protection if you're already deaf :-)

>>1848070
>>1847750
Come on fellas, we are /diy/ - we're better than this.

Now shake dicks and make up.

>>1847918
This is
>>1847750
here

I'm not op my dude

>>1847863
>using OSHA exposure limits
dude, first of all 16dB is 5x louder.

2nd, 75dB can cause hearing damage if prolonged and daily. Unlikely, but considering OP will be sitting next to this thing when it's running, yeah it can.
also 70dB is considered as loud as you can get before resorting to mild yelling.

but most importantly, the point isn't that it's harmful, I don't give a shit what OP does to his hearing. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

My point is that it's not as whisper quiet as you and OP claim it to be. 76dB on the sidewalk would easily be enough to piss off the neighborhood and be a nuisance enough to piss off anyone trying to enjoy at least some silence.

>reeereeereee I have no hearing loss
the point is you have no reference for what "quiet" is and you should stop acting like your generators can't be heard from across the street.

you also sound like the kind of person mentioned in >>1847991


>>1848084
No, fuck you this is the internet. we flame and argue here until we either get bored or distracted IRL and do something else until our hubris implodes

>>1848084
Why would I polish my gallstone?

>>1848142
>No, fuck you this is the internet. we flame and argue here until we either get bored or distracted IRL and do something else until our hubris implodes
just suck each others dicks and get over yourselves.

>>1845707
>how do I go about building a box to hide it that also stays cool?

Plywood box with a air scoop/vent in the front and another in the back for exhaust. Front vent lower to the ground. Rear vent closer to the top.

Those small generators are already pretty quite, but for extra stealth you could hose clamp some miscellaneous muffler to the existing exhaust pipe.

Oh and grab a can of krylon and paint the plywood the same color as the trailer. It'll just look like a generic storage trailer. The paint will help the wood last long/withstand weathering as well.

>>1847863
>none of them “pop”
You do realize
a) small, carefully timed explosions that pop in rapid succession are responsible for the noise a gas engine makes
b) you suck cock on purpose

>>1848142
>>1848204
Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

fuck off. generators are here to stay and you are wrong on the sound levels. OP's getting a generator no matter what you say.

Also >>1848204
if you knew anything about gasoline engines you would know that they don't have explosions in them. that would be knock and is bad. they burn rapidly. so a POP would be a back fire or a problem with timing.

so once again please come back when you actually know what you are talking about.

>>1848330
You're talking to two people anon.

Have fun making everyone hate you since you have no concept of logarithms and the dB scale.

>>1848330
>come back when you actually know what you are talking about.

Come back after you've heard a gasoline engine running at full throttle (like generators tend to run) with no muffler, and whether or not it is technically an explosion, you'll think you're hearing never ending explosions.

Just get a fucking gas powered motorized bicycle or motor kit.
What the fuck. You are doing the same thing only with many extra steps and a ton more waste.
Like really what the fuck am I reading.

>>1848337
OP had an idea for a system that he felt was badass (muh bike trailer, muh portable genny, muh off grid modularity), but is actually completely impractical.

OP came here hoping that /diy/ would justify his silly idea and is in complete denial of how impractical it is.

OP expected
>"everyone clapped, and the Nobel committee gave me a prize"
But is assmad that he got
>"a bike whose main power source is an ICE? Lol you mean a motorcycle?"

Instead and is doubling down like all of the idiots with a "new amazing idea" on here.

>>1848337
because I'd prefer my dick and balls not hang over pure gasoline and a 1000 degree explosion machine? I'd rather have it a few feet in back in a trailer.

>>1848358
>is actually completely impractical
which part: sound isolation box?
or power/charging efficiency?

>>1848366
By that line of logic wouldn't having volatile battery pack between your legs be even worse?

here's the brass tacks fellas, if Starbucks opens up inside TOMORROW, I will return my generator TODAY. The only reason I bought this thing is because there is no "waystations" where I can have a coffee and charge my bike battery and laptop. I used to do 36 mile round trips, hitting 3 or 4 cafes and getting the juice to keep the ride easy going. Now, fucking no inside seating out of the heat where I can charge, whelp! guess what? I brought my own goddamn power now, just need shade, and a buck fifty in gas.

>>1848412
>being this homeless

>>1848418
the PC term is differently domiciled.

but, no, I'm not homeless, I just need to get outside and roam or I get stir crazy.

>>1847985
Your reference means nothing to me. Also, you've proven yourself to be an asshole. Congrats. If you're ever wondering why your life sucks, memorize this >>1847991

>>1848330
You do know that a spark (generated by functioning spark plugs in gasoline engines) applied to a flammable liquid like gasoline (squirted out by injectors on most modern vehicles) will cause an explosion (moving the pistons in a gasoline engine which done in the proper order with the proper timing powers all gasoline vehicles) do you not? If you don't think gasoline explodes, next time you go to fill your vehicle at the pump, strike a lighter next to the nozzle as you pump. Be sure to video this so you can post a webm on /diy/ of gasoline not exploding to prove me and other anons wrong that "don't know anything about gasoline engines". Which of course you can't know from the other side of your screen anyway.

>>1848538
his life is prolley awesome, while u life is probably the epitome of "why u mad tho"

planning out my soundproof box, just a rough early schetch to get a feel for the configuration.

not to scale.

planning out my soundproof box, just a rough early schetch to get a feel for the configuration.

not to scale.

>>1848544
not an explosion, look it up tard.

>>1848366
What a fag. List of people in your family afraid to ride a motorcycle:
>Your grandma
>Your little sister
>You

>>1848491
>but, no, I'm not homeless, I
I knew it. I've been waiting for you to admit this. Charge your bicycle at home you retarded ass or admit that the premise of an electric bicycle is retarded and get a gas bike that can complete your round trip.

>>1848785
It is not a detonation, but it is an explosion.

>>1846699
I have close to the same generator and it's only slightly louder than a Honda. Put a good box on it and it won't bother anyone. Thing is we need air flow to make sure it's not going to overheat or burn the gas with too little oxygen

>>1845707
just buy a moped. worth less trouble in Las Vegas

What’s the best generator brand?

>>1848896
everyone praises the Honda 2000w, like its some glorious quiet running beast. Me, I don't want to pay $1000 for extra juice I don't need.

>>1848849
>your bicycle at home
>>1848849
>or admit that the premise of an electric bicycle is retarded
>>1848849
>get a gas bike

pic related

MFW complicated gasoline generator hybrid power unit.

Ganbatte OP!

>>1849184
It's not even about the extra power anon. It's about how the Honda doesn't sound like a loud, half assed Chink shit engine.

>>1848896
>What’s the best generator brand?
the one that gets the job done.

>>1849538
the sportsman is quiet.

>>1849594
>the sportsman is quiet.
I watched a video of one and it was extremely loud. The Honda ones that have proper muffling and insulation are only as loud as a washing machine.
Plus, sportsman is chink shit that will burn out and have electronic problems.

>>1849683
well I have one and you are wrong on all counts.

>>1850004
>t. Sportsman product marketing division
Stop trying to tell me that chink electronics, especially chink power electronics like mains voltage diodes and capacitors are reliable. They are always under spec, no info printed on the component, and generally sketchy looking. Set your generator to 60hz, and everything is fine. Plug in a heavy load, everything is still fine. Then unplug it and the governor bounces to 65hz momentarily, and BOOM one of your chink capacitors just burned out.

>>1848330
>TIL it’s crazy to think an internal combustion engine utilizes combustion

>>1850011
ok herbert

>>1850047
>combustion
is not explosion.

>>1850004
>I have one and I can barely hear it. >What!!!? What did you say young man!!!?
>sets down circ saw and walks away from a large air compressor
>Leans in with "good" ear.
Mfw he's not even wearing cheap earplugs

>>1850163
>til nascar tracks are quit places cuz combustion
What difference does that make dipshit? Does it make noise or not? You’ve been going for a couple days now arguing about detonation vs explosion vs combustion. Who gives a fuck? Stop being intentionally retarded.

>>1850177
this

>>1850204
>Stop being intentionally retarded.
I would say the same of you.
Internal COMBUSTION engine. NOT
Internal EXPLOSION engine.

>>1850414
newAnonhere
You're confusing detonation with explosion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion

>An explosion is a rapid increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner, usually with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases.

This describes both a detonation and the operation of an ICE, pleb.

If you're going to tell people to do research, do your own first.

Bruh. Ditch the generator for a Tesla coil. You'll thank me later

>>1850414
Holy fucking shit asshole. I already acknowledged that. I love how you intentionally neglect to acknowledge it makes noise regardless of your semantics.

>>1850437
I said that back here >>1848850
And no one cared

>>1850667
Yeah but that post has citations. You didn’t have citations sir or mam.

I won’t matter to the idiot REEEing about it anyway.

>>1850667
I agree, but fucktard wasn't listening

>>1850670
This.
He should have gotten it there, but never underestimate idiots.

>>1850682

>>1850761
Links or you're just butthurt.

>>1846182
I have one of theese things, theyre great mine has lasted since early 2019.

>>1847054
Oh, perfect. I came here to hijack this thread and ask about quieting an inline fan.

I have learned that it's not just insulation, but empty air is also needed. I placed a cardboard box around one and filled with spray foam. The sound deadening was disappointing, negligible. I'm sure a box lined with egg crate foam or flaky ceiling tiles would work much better, because of the air space. At least better than placing the insulation directly on the fan.

Also hanging the fan with bungee helps.

OP please post update on gas fueled, electric drive, pedal assist sturmwagen.

>>1851113
here's the trailer, where it will live, i haven't started building the base, which will be strapped to the aluminum rails, but that's the key first step, perhaps will make proggies this w/e

>>1851127
>trash-fire intensifies

>>1851639
I'll take a photo later, but all that fabric is FIREPROOF. Also, remember I'm building a box/

>>1851721
>what is essientially ballistic nylon
>"fireproof"

lmao

>>1851127
Why not attach a cargo rack to the back of the bike and use that to hold the generator? It seems like it solves a lot of problems that the trailer introduces.
>Solid mount point
>no flammable materials
>doesn't extend the length of the bike
>doesn't drastically effect the handling
>no extra wheels to look out for
>don't have to run wiring across a connection that's meant to detach on a whim
>looks less retarded

>>1850761
I wonder what Ed and his guns are doing nowadays?

>>1848412
>only reason I bought this thing is because there is no "waystations" where I can have a coffee and charge my bike battery and laptop. I used to do 36 mile round trips, hitting 3 or 4 cafes and getting the juice to keep the ride easy going. Now, fucking no inside seating out of the heat where I can charge

I cannot believe this dumpster fire of a thread arose because this guy over here is so entitled that he believes cafes should pay for his transportation costs.

If you go charge complimentary shit while you drink your cup of coffee, it's presumed that's low draw stuff like your phone charger, or maybe laptop if you have something you actually need to be doing on it. Charging your freaking electric bicycle battery is comparatively high draw and that is not an incidental use while at the coffee shop, you're just exploiting them to charge your bicycle. Would you also expect for them to pay for your gas money to go around and nurse cups of coffee?

How the fuck can your electric bike not complete a 36 round trip on a full charge? Are you seriously that cheap you refuse to charge it at home, or is the bike seriously that useless it cannot complete this loop on one charge?

What an ass.

>>1845707
just tow it around uncovered, but put a baseball cards in the spokes

if cops fuck with you, just say the generator isn't on, it's the baseball card making the noise

>>1846472
aww cool it has sine wave technology
amazing

>>1846708
>build a box about 4 inches larger than the outside dimensions of the generator.
>line it with egg crate

>>1845707
Get a pedal bike and lose that fat ass. 36 miles is nothing. I'm 50 and can do that.

>>1852341
84 Watts is high draw? Less than a 100 Watt light bulb.

The bike battery is 9.6Ah - it can do 20 miles easy with assist, but a mere 10 miles if leaning on the motor. I like to lean and enjoy the ride.

I respect your opinion, but I'm buying food too, and doing 36 miles by bike instead of car is huge difference in carbon footprint. No one has ever expressed anything but curiosity at the battery when they noticed it. Most cafe owners think its cool AF and that more people should do it. Pennies in electric? Plus I tip a fin when I'm going to be a couple hours there.

>>1852456
>egg crate
yes, I'm looking into that direction and incorporating an air gap as well

>>1852191
Like pic related?
OP could probably break it down to fit in a pannier.

>>1852558
>84 Watts is high draw?
For free with your coffee? Yes.

>Less than a 100 Watt light
No one uses 100 watt bulbs since like 2006. Comparable lumen bulbs are like 8 fucking watts now.

>it can do 20 miles
What a worthless piece of shit. How much did you pay for this thing?

>10 miles if leaning on the motor. I like to lean and enjoy the ride
Then why do you not own a powered bike that can accomodate your riding style?

>I respect your opinion
I do not respect yours. It is borne of wishful thinking and unicorn farts and shares no resemblance with practical application.

>carbon footprint
Do you even know where the cafes get their electricity? Fuel sources at the plants? Infrastructure required for the electric grid? The employees' cars to get to the plant? The employees' ENTIRE HOUSES AND CONSUMER LIFESTYLES FINANCED BY THEIR PAYCHECKS? The manufacturing process of the bicycle? The mining for the components that go into the lithium batteries? Machinery for mining? Moving raw materials, assembly? Amazon vans that probably delivered it? Marketing people who sold you on that dumb bike, their lifestyles and homes? Footprints of the cafes and their employees? How can you even pretend to have any idea what your carbon footprint is????? This is just a talking point they sold you on to buy that retarded bike, you consumer whore.

If you actually cared about your carbon footprint, you would pedal your ass around.

>curiosity at the battery when they noticed it
The fact that your server is also a retard who has been duped into thinking that electricity is magic free clean energy does not make you any less retarded.

>tip a fin when I'm going to be a couple hours
At least you do that for cafes you patronize, but this changes nothing of the environmental considerations we've touched, and economically, that tip could have gone into the tank of a gas powered bike and it would complete your 36 mile round trip -- at a lower carbon footprint over its lifetime, I'll wager.

>>1852805
you are being inflammatory for your own fun.. even a retard knows that the footprint of a simple bicycle with a 360W motor is about 1/100th the carbon emissions of a 1/2 ton gasoline powered vehicle.

That's some mad trollin' u doing right there brah, drinking again?

As I said, its a 9.6Ah battery, its a gentle assist.

Now to the point of boosting range with the gen, the gen burns .55 gallons of fuel in 6 hours approximately. While you can argue that's a horrible emissions device, it still goes nowhere near the carbon emissions of full car that gets 25 mpg even.

Did you also, in your alcohol fueled rant, realize that free electric receptacles are available in every major city at most large chain stores for people to charge their electric cars? Electric biking takes but a sip compared to those puppies.

Enjoy your day, your hard core troll made me chuckle.

>>1852561
He's laughing at the egg crate idea. The trouble with egg crates next to a hot generator in a box should be obvious. There's a decent chance they will catch on fire or melt depending on the egg crate. They are the right shape for sound deadening, but the wrong material. You want something fireproof or fire resistant at least.

>>1852814
>the footprint of a simple bicycle with a 360W motor is
Is what? Are you reading a marketing pamphlet right now? How can you even pretend to take into account half the variables I outlined above? The truth is you cannot. I can't either. The people who wrote the marketing pamphlet also cannot.

>about 1/100th the carbon emissions of a 1/2 ton gasoline powered vehicle
Why are you comparing apples to trucks?
You should be comparing bicycles to bicycles. And your bicycle sucks ass, sorry, not sorry. Enjoy your external-engine-trailer-electric-efficiency-loss-experiment bike.

>electric receptacles are available in every major city at most large chain store
Shit like this is done because it attracts retards with money, and overall is good for those businesses. That makes no statement as to carbon footprint, the environment, economy, or how much those businesses are spending in 'free' electricity to placate retards. It's simply good business.

>>1852366
>if cops fuck with you, just say the generator isn't on, it's the baseball card making the noise

>>1852456
>>1852561
>>1852824
I gave the answer to that problem here >>1847054. It was ignored and frankly, you know, it kinda hurts.

>>1852954
sorry, I'm looking at your option too, its probably cheapest.

>>1853126
op, best bet for your needs

1) get motor kit with spark plugs(cleaning/reliability versus carb)(generally have separate oil reservoir) and can still pedal your bike(longer distances) and less wear/tear/cost
2) get electric motor front wheel kit(charge with generator/coffee cafe for 20-30 miles a day)(no electric bike is made for repeated charging every single day/wears out batteries fast
3)get high temp insulation/use high temp/fire retardant glue to egg shells to line that carrier you have and install variable fan with breaker/dial and plug into your 12 volt attachment
4)get a muffler with sound dampening factor(no harley/motorbike/listen to this dipshit sound amplification) a muffler WILL MUFFLE YOUR NOISE and help keep your trailer from igniting/cut down on fumes

EXTRA BONUS/LIFETIME EXTENDER
5) get some high density lithium batteries and a solar charger mmpa panel/12 volt water heater with ceramic cover to put in a flexible water bladder(silicon best)
)attach SEVERAL SOLAR PANELS TO CHARGER(no one uses only a single panel(lots of foldable panels will work great without taking up space))
)attach water heater to light bulb panel AFTER putting ceramic cover(pet stores/hardware stores) over heating element and put into a full silicon/rubber water jug(put this opposite your fuel tank for your generator)
)attach to lithium batteries(make sure charger is made for lithium otherwise use deep cycle)

Now you have a bike that is a literal hybrid, capable of running on gas/electric AND human power. You are towing a trailer that carries a well disguised and noise dampened generator AND solar powered battery array and water heater.

No lack of hot water for cleaning your sweaty self/cooking food/making coffeee/sterilizing your clothes. You are capable of traveling out of state and to other places than Vegas, travel around without having to pay for coffee for power, and if you are desperate use your heated water to keep from freezing at night LOTB

>>1853159
just get two jerry can's one for gas one for water
cops ask why you have gas cans on your trailer, open your water can and pour some water in your water bottle

>>1853159
Yeah, you won’t need a muffler because internal combustion engines don’t make noise because they don’t rely on explosions or detonations.

>>1853185
remember to buy muffler for that motor bike engine(if you go crazy and change your setup) none of those bike kits come with mufflers

>>1852954
Not op but it sounds like a good idea if you can keep it from ever getting wet. I might try to fix tile in the middle of a 2x4 then panel over on each side leaving air space on either side

>>1853203
not true mustie1 on youtube bought one and it came with a muffler.

>>1852706
No, like this.
https://amzn.com/B01AUY2OWW

we learned a lot on this thread, I appreciate you all, even the haters. I will be back with an update but it might not be till next weekend/ new thread if this one dies. Just wanted to say thanks before I forget for all the input here. Cheers mates.

>>1852805
>>carbon footprint
Not him but just wanted to say states have been investing in renewable energy for decades. Solar is bigger than ever in Britain, and America has its share of wind farms and hydroelectric plants. So electricity distributed by the grid can be considered by the consumer to be <100% non-renewable, whereas gas burned by the consumer to generate electricity is 100% non-renewable.

You're right that commerce and society in general are wasteful and contribute to an overall notable carbon footprint, but that doesn't mean individuals within that society can't make personal choices to limit how much they are responsible for. Otherwise, by your logic, OP would be just as justified running a Hummer as an e-bike because the carbon footprint is negligible compared to society as a whole. None of us are responsible for society as a whole, just for our own behavior.

Honestly though the importance of an individual's carbon footprint is entirely a marketing ploy, you are 10,000% right and I couldn't agree more. Yeah it may be the only thing you can take personal responsibility for, but that doesn't mean it matters for shit when super-industry is pumping out pollution by the megatons. Planet's still fucked.

>>1852832
>electric receptacles are available in every major city at most large chain store
>attracts retards with money, and overall is good for those businesses.
this is correct too.

>>1854187
>but that doesn't mean individuals within that society can't make personal choices to limit how much they are responsible for. Otherwise, by your logic, OP would be just as justified running a Hummer as an e-bike because the carbon footprint is negligible compared to society as a whole. None of us are responsible for society as a whole, just for our own behavior.
Yes, and in this case, one individual's behavior is supporting an overpriced/proprietary/fad electric bike, and the other individual is assembling his bike out of existing, used parts. One of those fits in your analogy, the other does not.

If you are concerned with carbon footprint, or recycling, or the environment in general, then you should only buy used. It's always higher impact to manufacture new so don't support new manufacture if you don't agree with that. You should be driving a 40 year old VW Rabbit instead of a Prius if you mean it.

>>1854322
There's always more you could be doing. Everyone has to strike the right balance in their own life. You too could be a more perfect and principled being, but I bet you engage in some light hypocrisy now and again, as all humans do. And OP's carbon footprint isn't just an intangible value, it also affects things like noise and air pollution in OP's community. It normalizes electric vehicles in a country with strong resistance to more sustainable practices.

Thanks for the tip about buying used. Did OP say their bike was bought new? I myself have only ever owned used vehicles and haven't bought new clothing, furniture, or appliances in over a decade. I'm not trying to waste money and vanity on something off the assembly-line when perfectly good stuff is just sitting around, waiting to be used. So you're preaching to the choir there. You need to slow your roll on that judgment stuff though, man. Relax, there are a million entitled youngsters out there at any given time. Getting angry just makes you angry, it doesn't make them not be entitled anymore.

>>1845707
shit gets hot, it needs air, and larger generators weigh a shit tone

>>1854374
this is a tiny 40 cc 4 stroke, I don't think they get any smaller. air: yes. some type of muffler/baffle: yes. will post results.

>>1845723
This

>>1854453
ok, but that's /fit/, and a perfectly valid point.

but we're here on /diy/ making a sound box for a generator. capeesh?

>>1854366
My issue is that by and large these various proprietary electric designs are only ever going to be disposable. Batteries have an inherent lifespan even with proper maintenance, and no one maintains them correctly. The packs as far as I know are largely proprietary. In ten years or so you're not going to see those models circulating around new, they're going to go right in the trash. Meanwhile a car can be maintained and repaired and a gas engine bike is both made from used parts and also can be infinitely repaired.

>>1854491
circulating around used*

>>1850981
a whole year huh?

>>1852814
you're fat as fatass aren't you, Redditboy

>>1854451
remember to use stove tent flap level or better fabric around that muffler(THEY WILL GET HOT) use the left-overs to make a flag for safety/fun/no pullover protection

>>1853246
I would assume it would be a forgone conclusion that the box that is holding the generator would be weather proof to begin with.

>>1853159
>use fire retardant glue
>use that glue for egg crate insulation