/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Stocking up for an event that everybody knows is coming soon is not prepping, it's panic buying. The right time to have been prepping was months ago. Buy the twenty pound bag of beans when it goes on sale instead of the one pound bag. Even if nothing happens you will still eat the beans and save money. In any case it seems unlikely there will be any real shortages for this particular event, except for temporary logistics issues due to panic buyers.

>>1781835
>What is the intelligent course of action for the current situation?
You shouldn't partake into mass hysteria: if everyone starts stockpiling then the supply chain gets strained, which is exactly what's best to avoid in a situation like this. Quarantine is a measure to avoid people grouping together and physically connecting different groups of people, but it's not the end of civilization, quite the opposite. As for water barrels, if your tap water is safe to drink then there's no need to stockpile on water. You may want to shop a little more than average to minimize having to go wherever you get your food supplies, but as long as you follow some really basic safety procedures you don't risk anything, even when you stick your nose out of your basement. In all fairness unless you already have some health condition (like obesity, if you're a burger) or you're old enough to be retired, you won't die, but you could still spread the contagion to other, more frail, people which is the real risk in the small scale, and the sick people overwhelming the health system in the larger scheme of things. Tech Ingredients has done a really amazing video about safety procedures, and I'd follow his suggestion to make a homemade hand sanitizer by buying the raw active component in bulk and diluting it, and depending on the severity of the situation single use gloves, but I'd skip on face masks: they're not useful, unless you're already sick, or you must stay in contact with the public, so it's best to leave them to those who really need them.

t. quarantined anon

>>1781835
Cigarettes, Bic lighters, and batteries. Prep with barter-able items...and buy a gun. If your a europoor then get 3x the cigarettes and a bat with nails in it. Booze is good too, and literature on how to make shit yourself. Skills are infinitely more valuable than couponing a basement full of ramen and toothpaste.

>>1781845
do not do this, its a waste of money. society isnt collapsing.
just shop for your groceries monthly rather than weekly

>>1781835
well it all depends how bad things really are.
In a warzone you are going to want a gun and lots of ammo. don't have the image on this computer but there was an article from someone who lived in a war torn country (bosnia i think?) he advised gun and ammo first. soap second. you can shoot a bird for dinner but you can't shoot soap. kitchen gun was a scam.
but if it's not too bad, get about 50 cans in, extra sanitizer, extra soap, batteries, and any other consumable you use a lot of. camping stove and it's associated fuel for example. or matches/lighters to light your gas hob if things aren't that bad. bosnian guy also recommended lighters.

>>1781859
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>>1781845
in addition, for specifics: barterable / trading items are fucking great. booze and fags. batteries and lighters.bin bags.
food wise I go for cans and dry goods, pasta sold out fast here, then the rice, then the cans.
I got something a lot of people overlooked: canned fruit. hope those fuckers like scurvy. along with beans, veg, pickled stuff, things like branston pickle and piccalilli are great, keep for ages.
DO NOT STOCKPILE WATER AND LOO ROLL. that is for idiots and niggers. seriously saw a black couple buying about 30 x 2L bottles of pop because the water had all sold out...... lets just say that I do not live in a dry country and the taps still work. speaking of that:
DO STOCK WATER PURIFICATION STUFF. those chlorine tablets, or a filter. i hear life straws are good although i never used them.
DO NOT STOCKPILE THINGS THAT COST A LOT. the chances of things getting really bad are very low, so you may need that money more in two months time to pay rent. something else to keep in mind: rich and powerful people are deeply invested and reliant upon in the current system continuing.

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>>1781861
is this a troll? no way there's people on this board who believe this right?

>>1781954
>t. NMGI

>>1781843
>you should risk hunger because otherwise you'd be contributing 0.000001% to the collapse of the supply chain
Peak boomer failing to understand that "let's all be nice to each other" does not and has never worked.

>>1782017
>he doesn't have a few rations on hand that occasionally get used for long trips or camping
>he didn't realize people would be shitting their pants and panic buying when the pandemic became "official" just like all large scale happenings
>not seeing the writing on the wall months ago when all of China was getting infected

Trust me m8 I hope a good many boomers get their just desserts with this virus but you're a retard for not thinking on your own and just going with the crowd. Go ahead and go buy your prep material now that you waited this long anyways and see how it goes.

no one will starve to death, electric power isnt gonna run out.

however, minimizing the amount of times you shop for groceries in the coming months isnt at all a bad idea

>>1781835
Coronavirus Filters:
I'm aware that there's some dispute over what level of particulate filter is effective in blocking coronavirus, I went ahead and bought pic related mask and some of those pink p100 filters which fit onto 3m masks like this one. My question is, are the original particle filters in these masks also effective?
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Particulate-Filter-5N11-N95-100-EA-Case/?N=5002385+3294776438&rt=rud
this is the brand of filter that comes with the mask, i believe it says it's p2 but is that adequate? Thanks.
>>1781959
good to see the /ic/ philosophy also applies to apocalypse survival

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Ae0mjMljs

>>1782106
Coronavirus isn't airborne, dipshit. Don't let anyone cough in your face and you'll be fine.

>>1782150
it hangs around in the air quite well, but when it warms up the air transmissibility is supposed to decrease substantially

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>>1781843
>quarantined anon
if you're in the US, go cough on your congressman. the more of those faggots fall over dead, the better for every citizen.

>>1782150
The WHO literally said it is airborne.
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1228162621716615168
>>1782106
pic related is for n99 and n95. P100 is best and will filter viruses (0.12 micron coronavirus)
>>1781861
Soviet gasmask with no filters = virus
Soviet gasmask with filters = asbestos lung

Toilet paper will be the currency in the new world order

>>1781835
>my neighbours stockpilling water barrels and I can't quite tell if they are being smart or morons
Morons. This is a virus, not a war or earthquake. Water and to some extent electricity will stay available unless the state were to collapse completely - and in such a case, no storage would be enough.
Better use that space to store food (and waterfilters, if you're worried about a total collapse).
>What is the intelligent course of action for the current situation?
Stock up on long-lasting, easy to prepare foods (canned or dried goods mostly, also some sweets and dark chocolate).
If you can afford it, get enough sports drinks for around a week to avoid electrolyte loss in case you become infected. Otherwise, applejuice mixed 1:3 with water is a suitable replacement.
Some pain meds might also come in handy if they're legal to own without prescription where you are.
Then just bug in and let it pass.

If you really have to go out (if you're in a system-relevant job or have the bad luck of being in the US) wear a FFP3 mask and googles. The mask alone won't help, as the virus also spreads through the eyes. Also wash your hands regularly (or disinfect them if washing isn't possible).

If stuff gets bad (pillaging and looting) you'll also want a weapon, preferably a semi-auto shotgun with large, exchangeable mags. I don't think it'll get that far though.

>>1781845
>If your a europoor then get 3x the cigarettes and a bat with nails in it.
Gotta love these prejudices. until all non-important stores had to close yesterday, I (german) could have just walked into the gunstore, bought a gun for cash and walked out with the gun concealed. All legally.

I'm no doomsday prepper professional... Just trying to use common sense. IMO most of this is stuff we all should have a small stock of, even when there is no pandemic. Atm everyone is panic buying which makes it difficult for those of us to find food who are not panicking. Personally, all I did was bought a few pounds of dried beans. IMO the best thing to do is get low sodium canned food (doesn't require cooking/heating to be edible; typically high in liquid contents; low sodium reduces water consumption) and water. What's the worst that happens? I see it going one of two ways: Nothing happens and then you have a stock of supplies like we all should have anyway. Or shtf and then you're great full you've got something.

Vitamins and water.

Increase your body fat as much as you can while you can.

Only absolute brainlets think of shortages. This isn't like the Chernobyl disaster we had in Europe when it was a genuine fear that the food chain can be contaminated so production and distribution will unaffected.
The only thing that can happen is to be infected with an illness that most healthy people barely feel so care only for the sickly.

>>1781835
>Food
I suggest beans, canned vegetables, rice, and stock up on water and water filtration straws. If you wanna live god damn lavish in times of turmoil get military rations/MREs, though they're out of most people's budget range.
>Luxury
Buy batteries and a Gameboy Color. It has a large library, can survive most falls, and it so obsolete that you can buy games for it at nearly any pawn shop for very little. Buy lots of alcohol, tobbacco, and maybe some narcotics. Buy an excess for trade, people will crave these things and give you a lot for a little; same goes for caffine drinks like tea, coffee, and soda.
>Medicine
Acedominifin for pain and fevers, nyquil so you can sleep off minor illnesses, steroids and vitamins to keep your hormones in check, and rubbing alcohol to disinfect wounds.
>Weapons
Get a baseball bat. It's long, does a lot of blunt damage, and it's also just nice if you wanna play Baseball. A pistol is all the gun you need for defense, I personally got a Smith & Wesson M&P but anything stronger than a .22 is good enough. Rifles are too heavy to carry around and shotguns just do a needless amount of damage, you don't wanna irreproachably fuck up your house.
>For a REAL Apocalypse
China is already on the path of recovery, the US and EU will come out of this weaker but they will survive. But if you're looking for a REAL boogaloo that'll legit collapse all societies past a point of no return, you're simply going to need seeds. Just learn what grows and what you can farm in your area.

>>1781835
If you're not prepared with stuff for at least a month you're a retard that deserves to die. It's just common sense to be prepared for things.

>>1781845
>Skills are infinitely more valuable than couponing a basement full of ramen and toothpaste.

Absolutely true, and if the happening doesn't, you still have valuable, marketable skills.

Telling that so many morons ridiculed a post that made the best point about prepping since ferfal. Euros need a smug idiot in Brussels to tell them what to do or they can't brush their own teeth.

>>1781835
Keep some backup stock but nothing crazy. I have a bag of rice and some cans of beans and stuff that just stay in the back of my cupboard forever. its easy to get enough calories to survive so dont worry about it.

imo, all the times iv gone to the grocery store its been pretty much normal. the media hypes the crazy shit but thats not the norm yet.

also, think about it like this; stores are generally stocked well and people can only buy so much in preparation. most of the fear buying has happened already and stock levels will probably return to normal. just go buy stuff when you need it and avoid everything else.

>>1783332
>if your unlucky enough to be in
America
>semi auto shotgun with detachable mag
Pick one.

>>1783336
>firearm ownership a privilege not a right
>assuming in a SHTF scenario government won’t revoke such a privilege
>must prove you need weapon first before being approved for permit
>not allowed to own semi auto rifle
>not allowed to own pump action shotgun
>NOT ALLOWED FOR PERSONAL SELF DEFENSE ONLY FOR SECURITY WORK, HUNTING, ETC

Yes wherever would we get these crazy ideas. Tell more lies.
>get a load of this asshole


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.de/20160616/five-things-to-know-about-guns-in-germany-us-gun-control-laws/amp

>>1781841
>Buy the twenty pound bag of beans when it goes on sale instead of the one pound bag. Even if nothing happens you will still eat the beans and save money.
This is the best way to prep. Have a rotating stock of things you would need and use and replace them. That way you have 0-5 year old jars of food , wheat, and beans, instead of 10-20.

>>1781859
Here you guize go.

>>1783492
semi autos are allowed, rest is accurate

>>1783572
While some of that is definitely good advice, it was proved to be some dude's creative writing LARP years ago.

>>1783603
It's funny. Germany has some of the strictest gun laws in the world but even Germany doesn't ban AR-15s like a lot of American politicians want to do.

>>1783572
This was proven bullshit. Stop posting it.

Bruh. . . its literally just a flu

https://youtu.be/9vagNPXkzpg

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1. Buy a window AC, copper piping, isobutane, sugar, yeast....
2. ???
3. Heat pump moonshine maker

A proper prepper should be stocking on HEALTHY foods, and should know how to store and cook them.

Healthy meaning preservative free, low sugar, low salt, whole foods.

Dry grains (beans, wheat, corn) will last for years if stored properly. Buy them in bulk. You will need a corona mill and basic knowledge on how to cook them in a million ways.

Also stock up on good sea salt (50kg is enough) and a variety of dry powdered spices (chili, curry, pepper, etc)

Also, invest in a pressure cooker and mason jars. Buy fruit and vegetables in bulk directly from farmers for a fraction of the cost, and get canning. Store bought cans are unhealthy addictive junk food. Do not waste money on food that will give you no energy, makes you obese and finances the worst corporations.

Get a RO water filter and a bunch of water containers. It will save you money on the long run, and if disaster spirals water will be the single most important resource to have.

Nevermind toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo and stupid consumerist products. All those are unnecesary, unhealthy and expensive. Learn to make lard and lye soap.

Get a bucket or two of real honey and ditch soda and caffeine. Make a habit of drinking tea with honey as a sweet fix, if its not enough you should have overcome your food addictions long before the crisis (good luck with withdrawal during a shitstorm).

Start growing lettuce. It will be your main source of fast, fresh vitamins. Crucial for good health.

Have a backup supply of fuel for cooking just in case.

Im not even a real prepper but I have done all of the above, and I guarantee eating like that will keep you fit and healthy while keeping your food expenses way down.

It does however require some work adapting to this lifestyle, Im pretty sure the average food junky will go insane for a while living like this.

The only thing I feel I should have and I dont are weapons and training, but most americans probably do, so that fills in the gap.

Just my two cents, good luck!

coronavirus represents zero threat to the supply chain

You're all over reacting.

do you really expect a flu to break down the supply chain? panic buying is already decreasing it's gonna be fine

Get a can rotation system.
#1 thing idiot preppers get wrong is buy a shitload of cans, shove em on a shelf in their basement, and forget about them.

You should use and constantly restock your food supplies. Use the oldest as they get close to their expiration date, and refill the system.

is there a mega full of approved doomsday books or something?

just in case shit does hit the fan

>>1784541
Yes. A couple.

>>1784541

https://thesurvivalmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/LDS-Preparedness-Manual.pdf

>>1783732
Really? Fuck, it was such a good read. Link where it's proven?

>>1784569
> https://thesurvivalmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/LDS-Preparedness-Manual.pdf
> While you really need 2 years supply, one year will do

pathetic morons. it's a flu

>>1785267
That damages your lungs permanently and kills your gramma

>>1785303
but in no way shape or form warrants prepping for a doomsday

I am of simple concern and I'm sure I'm just being retarded, but in my state all non essential businesses are shut down and I'm starting to wonder, who's making all the crap the grocery stores are buying? Is the supply chain still healthy?

>>1784480
Omfg this.

Stuck at parents house for lock in. Mom comes back with panic purchases. Help stock them. End up digging through food pantry to make more space and throwing out 1/8 of the crap in there cause she repeat buys the same crap and doesn't rotate or even use some of it.

>>1785324
This. Pretty sure we've already fucked ourselves over far worse than the virus ever will

>>1781954
it's not like this place has effective gatekeepers. that's a good thing, by the way.
just ignore the people loudly TEOTWAWKI-ing; they're either trolls or retarded and neither make for reasonable conversion partners. the scariest thing about this whole corona thing is the herd of imbeciles. i mean, yes the infectivity and long incubation are concerning but unless you're at risk of being culled from the herd (sickly/elderly in this case) then calm the fuck down. if you get sick you'll get better. if you get worse and die instead of getting better it's because you didn't fight hard enough.

if you're in the endangered demographic stay home and order everything online. if you must go out among the infected populace as an at-risk individual, minimize personal contact and maintain fastidious hygiene; you'll improve your chances if you just do these basic things.

This is all going to mysteriously disappear the same way it appeared. Just wait and watch.

CoronaHoax 2020

>>1785445
I cant imagine being this stupid

>>1784480
Humm. Any known good plans for making some version of these on a CNC or 3d printer?

I've been home canning for a few years now, and something like that would make life much easier

>>1786075
Basically you just have to make a large curved bar, with an inset bar that divides it in half. The space between the bars should be large enough you can fit the largest can you have with extra room through it.

The center dividing bar should slope towards the back, and the outer bar should slope towards the front.

Make them slot into adjustable rail so you can move them back and forth depending on the size of the can

PaintCAD pic attached

Survival author (fiction and non) Dr. Arthur Bradley claims everyone should have a 30 day supply of things like food, water, prescriptions/medical supplies, etc. I've thought about it and I agree this is a good plan. I'd rather be ready for multiple scenarios for 30 days than invest picky and choosy for scenarios. For example you can have 6 months of food, but can you survive a season with no heat/AC, no internet/grid, no running water. At that point you have to make a major life decision of "do I want to be a prepper." Are you and your familiy willing to sacrifice financial resources for the sake of "preparedness". Do you even own a house yet? Is it in a good area? Do you own a BOL? These may be more important questions than "muh stash." Prepping is a major life choice. Or can you plan for 30 days which is what most scenarios other apocalypse involve?

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>>1786113
Thanks Anon. Will post how it works out, when I get it done.

>>1784480
Canned food is good for many years. 100 year old canned meat is still edible for fuck's sake.

Gotta love how easy it is to make burgers seethe...

>>1783492
>firearm ownership a privilege not a right
wrong
>must prove you need weapon first before being approved for permit
Only applies to fully automatic guns, artillery and guns camouflaged as common items
>not allowed to own semi auto rifle
complete bullshit. here's some examples of guns legal in germany:
https://www.waffenschumacher.com/unsere-produkte/waffen-und-teile/buechsen/page/2/
>not allowed to own pump action shotgun
Bullshit. pump action shotguns are restricted (not forbidden) only if they have no shoulder stock.

I suggest you read the actual law rather than trusting some burgerfucker online. For example, Waffg Anlage 2 Unterabschnitt 2 Absatz 1 lists the guns that can be bought without any permit or reason.
If you've got a hunting license, you can buy anything that's not fully automatic without any additional permit, and getting the permit for full-auto is easy too.

>>1783489
>Pick one.
Why would I? unlike you burgers, I can buy mil-spec guns from all over the world without having to count domestic-made parts or worry about barrel shrouds.

>>1786518
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Germany

Less gun restrictions are always good, but it doesn't look like it's easy to get full auto. I kind of wish america did make it possible without making you spend tens of thousands of dollars on old equipment, though.

Hijacking this thread for a moment I'm a burger male and my burger gf is obese and has asthma what are logical things I should purchase aside from food and water. I live in an apt packed with boomers. I'm gathering vent filters for apt and n95 mask, goggles and gloves for outdoors. Feedback would be nice also links to in stock and shipping stuff to us would be nice. I'll have to do my first trash trip soon otherwise i've been 100% indoors.

>>1787338
Body bags would be good. Also some heavy duty deodorizer. Maybe a few 5gal buckets of borax to put in the bags when the boomers and your cow dies. It will act as a desiccant, Wich simple make things smell less, until you find somewhere to dump them.

Prepped with few kgs of 3d printer filament. I'm ready for quarantine now

>>1787338
An old ps2, a dance mat, and a couple different editions of Dance Dance Revolution. Normally will put you out maybe $50-$75, but I'm not sure how the current panic will affect that. The good news is you don't need to stick up on food, your blubber stores will keep you going for a few months at the very least.

>>1785445
Go die so the line goes up.

>>1782384
No they didn't, fuck off disinformation shill
Give sources or suck dick, twitter doesn't count as one

>>1783503
This, because a well stocked pantry allows opportunistic shopping. I do keep enough to go two months without shopping but that's also natural disaster prep. It gets eaten either way so no money is lost and much is saved.

>>1786116
I plan for at least that and have used in after hurricanes etc. Buying what you will use anyway in advance used to be called "home economics" a hundred years ago and works very fucking well.

>Prepping is a major life choice.
It's actually very low effort! 90% is mental and the supplies are quite easy to accumulate affordably. Consider silly shit people spend much more money on. If you can afford to live you can afford disaster preparedness. I coast through natural disasters and I'm coasting through Corona-chan because it's so easy. It's boring and delaying my lower back surgery, but it's not hard.

For example I can shelter in place because I planned long ago to live in an area near military bases for support and human networking (I'm an AF vet). I planned for slow growth because change is not to my advantage. I bought six acres cheap, we renovated the houses and I own it free and clear. All of those are basic smart life choices, not really prepping, just not being foolish.

I learned to wrench and fix nearly everything I own because that's what competent people should do for fun! All fun except masturbation should integrate useful skills and competencies. Even motorcycle collecting makes me a better mechanic, and if SHTF in an EMP way I'll be riding and driving. If I can do it so can you because I'm not special, just determined. Never have a useless hobby because useful hobbies are even more wonderful!

I learned computers because fuck paying someone for a vital modern necessity. The first thing I used a PC for was to learn about hardware and software, as well as how to research my many other interests. I learned basic welding and machining because they complement everything else and greatly increase my understanding of metal and machinery.

I don't game because it's degenerate. I spend as much time online as any gamer but its all basically study and learning is a rush. DIY let me retire early and not need to work.

DIY = life

>>1786518
>Gotta love how easy it is to make burgers seethe...

Educated burgers have no problem but we have a lot of ignorant white trash. What do Germans call your worthless white people?

>>1785383
Derp, those are best by dates, not expired
You can still eat them