/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1687088

>>1687088
>No insurance
What a fucker.

>>1687092
>What a fucker.

You gotta compete with undocumented citizens, anon. No taxes, no insurance, no safety or PPE, etc.

>new kid at garage.
>dump truck with an old 855 cummins in the parking lot, needs new coolant sender, light and buzzer is going off in the cab driving the driver crazy.
>Foreman tells the new kid to run out and change it. Says just unscrew the old one, put the new one in, real easy.
>Kid asks won't coolant leak out?
>foreman tells him yeah, but just do it quick, not much at all will spill out.
>Kid runs out to the lot and does it.
>Foreman forgot to tell kid to MAKE SURE HE TAKES THE RADIATOR CAP OFF FIRST.
>Also probably should have told the kid to make sure the engine was cooled down.
>Kid doesn't take the radiator cap off, engine is steaming hot because the driver was sitting inside blasting a/c.
>Kid unscrews sender.
>geyser of 212 degree water sprays out.
>Most of kid's skin is pretty much instantly boiled off.
>Foreman goes around and tells every he absolutely told the kid to take the rad cap off.
>I was standing there, knew he didn't. I mean...maybe the kid should have fucking known better but...I dunno. Life's fucked up.

>>1687103
>tell exciting, gut-wrenching story
>end it at the climax
>offer no ending or resolution

>>1687088
>>1687091
Part 2
>call G.C.
>update him on fire
>G.C. says finish what you went there for
>installing material
>homeowner shows up
>homeowner takes out fury on me
>I'm quiet, letting homeowner take rage out on me
>homeowner call fire dept.
>fire marshall shows up
>F.D. disaster response van shows up
>I'm getting questioned by fire chief
>general contractor shows up
>fucking chaos!
>fire chief places keep out sign on house
>have to write statement
>building inspector shows
>G.C. is shitting his pants

>>1687088
>>1687091
>>1687168
Part 3
>2 weeks later
>get subpoena for court
>turns out homeowners are lawyers
>suing big box store, suing G.C.
>suing painter
>suing anybody than can be sued
>G.C. turns out to be unlicensed also
>running through a licensed builders books
>our house electrician turns out not to be licensed either
>house plumber isn't licensed either
>turns out I'm only sub on job with valid liability
>Big box store ends up giving renovation for free, and has to pay homeowner money on top
>that was the last month with big box store
>big box store doesn't offer PSI installation anymore
Can anybody guess which American big box store this is?

>>1687097
By the way..liability insurance is 900 for a year in my state. 1 mil umbrella, 2 mil cap. They offer a low down payment, and multiple policy discount.
900 a year is fucking cheap! Compared to the fines, and judgements the Judge levied against the G.C. and painter.
If your sub contracting without liability. That's on you.
Most undocumented mexicans don't work in the 7 figure homes. They work in the 5 and low 6 figure ones. I rarely see anyone bit a white men in the big money homes.

>>1687171
>Can anybody guess which American big box store this is?
Wall-Mart?

>>1687174
>Most undocumented mexicans don't work in the 7 figure homes.
Neither do 'big-box' store installers. Fuck outta here.

>>1687194
Negative.
I guess I should say big box home improvement store.

Hanging gutter in 1986 for a large outfit in town one day atop a fully extended 32’ ladder it snapped in the center. I fell 26’ broke my back, walked it off after pulling gravel outa my face....felt lucky to be alive. Caught up with me in 2000 had surgery...been remodeling since

>>1687196
Lmfao! You must be that undocumented immigrant trying to get someone to hire you in that 7 figure home

>>1687205
just curious, but why didnt you / they (after the workers comp claim) try to sue the ladder manufacturer?

>>1687209
nice work buddy.

>>1687211
Didnt file workmans comp....just toughed it out. Back then filing wc was frowned on and i was hard headed and stupid. Turns out the ladder had burned in a insulation truck....i started my own busness in 87 never lookd back

>>1687209
>>1687215
LOL didn't even see this the first time, hope your customer doesn't either!

>>1687224
Do you have a tile strecher? Neither do I...i can't fix a a wall running out on a old home.
Oh wait, should I jump up to a 3/16" grout line to fix it?

>>1687211
Back then if you shot a nail in yourself you yanked itout or cut yourself bad you wrapped it and said fuck it and went back to work we were all young and tough / stupid. People that filedwc claims couldmtfind work. Lookingback i shouldhave reamed theirass....

>>1687215
This here got a marble shoe molding around the perimeter anyway.
Did you notice none of the base is completed anyway?
Keep seething anyways

>>1687241
That thin strip on the bottom looks like shit
Layout fail

>>1687245
Where do you see a thin strip at the bottom? Do you mean the 5ft. Long trough drain? If so, you will notice the protective plastic cover is still covering the drain. I grouted over the protective covering. I was waiting for it to dry before it took it off. There are ra,or straight lines when this happens.
Got anything else to seeth about?

>>1687241
Oh wait...you must be talking about the faux marble face on the seat.
If you look closer, i landed with a full tile at the seat. Then the customer decided he wanted to put the marble face on the seat.
So that would appear to be a thin strip. But it's a full tile.

>>1687252
Maybe this will help better explain

>>1687241
>>1687247
>Got anything else to seeth about?
Bet you left that water bottle there you malingerer.

>>1687262
I can understand your frustration

>>1687229
>.i can't fix a a wall running out on a old home.
That is why you float the wall.

>>1687254
Where the waterproofing pedro

>>1687274
I'm supposed to float the rough over a 1"
My reveal on either side is equal. I can't stretch tile, or shrink framing.

>>1687283
Lmfao!!! I guess that orange schluter membrane isn't water proofing? I'm not a nigger i don't use home depot red guard, or shitty mapei aqua-guard.

>>1687287
>mapei aqua-defense

>>1687285
>I can't stretch tile, or shrink framing.
I bet you get a lot of miles on little sayings like that. I hardly ever seen a room that is square.

>>1687103
Nah bro the kid shouldn't even have had to know better. If I'm in your shoes I go offer the kid my testimony when he sues and I strongly suggest he sues.

Not your fault. But the new guy shouldn't be doing shit like that if they aren't trained for it. Fucking foreman should have known better and knew it since he rolled around afterward trying to take the weight off his conscience by blaming the kid.

>>1687291
it is easy to criticize someone behind a computer screen. I'm offering honest rebuttal to the criticism here. It seems to me your just a neckbeard at home wishing he was out in the real world doing something with his life.

Not going to green text since I'm on my phone it's a pain
School remodel and new addition, 3 phase job over the next 2 years
2 months into the job and working 50s because we are behind
Demo crew grabs feeders with excavator that needed to stay, almost kills me in the process, yay more work
Bump to 70s for a month because they decide we can do phase 2 this summer too
Nearing end of this portion of the project 2 weeks to go and school about to start
Boiler explosion happens, almost kills 3 guys
Takes out the schools gym
Bump to about 85 week
Lots of 14 to 16 hour days, 8s on Sunday feel like half days
Still not exactly sure when my gf dumped me

>>1687204
Based on my experience, that would be Home Depot. And it pains me to say it because I fucking hate Lowe's.

>>1687291
Yeah this explains why most subs I've hired have been saying shit like this on the regular since they started working which is why they are no longer employable by any reputable installing co. and do shit work.

>>1687285
When someone suggests using shims behind the blueboard, do you say "I'm not a carpenter"?

>>1687300
so the tile layout is 2" shorter than the rough opening. rather than install a 1" sliver on either side? i should rip the cement board off the wall, pad the rough out 1" on the left, and zero at the bottom, to a 1" pad at the top?
If your the big bad general contractor, shouldn't you have notified your framers to build the rough opening 2" smaller?
Now you blame the tile guy for the mistake...BAKA It seems to me like your just as good with the miles long little sayings.
I'm just the tile guy, your the big shot Contractor.
i've posted photographic rebuttal to all the criticism here. Yet all I hear in return is baseless general insults from someone that only wants to find fault.

>>1687303
>blueboard in a shower
now i know your a low end handyman

>>1687306
>tile layout is 2" shorter than the rough opening. rather than install a 1" sliver on either side?
Just shift the whole layout so you're using more than half of a tile on each side rather than 2 slivers... it's not complicated.
>I'm just the tile guy
don't blame me, blame someone else, but please, please hire me again!
>only wants to find fault.
*wants the job done right.

>>1687300
>no longer employable by any reputable installing co.
I doubt home depot pays to float a wall. Its a relic of a bygone era. Today's house flippers have no use for it.

https://youtu.be/MLovmNpSirk

>>1687308
your obviously not that smart....The LAYOUT is 2" shorter than the rough opening
Let me say it again, the layout is 2" shorter than the rough opening. even jumping up to a 3/16" grout line will leave a small margin of error on the wet wall (right wall for the handymen).Plus a 3/16" grout line looks like shit on this tile.
Regardless of how a tile run is layed out...it will be 2" smaller than the opening of the shower.
The only way to rectify this problem would be, either buy a tile that is a little longer, or decrease the rough opening by 2".
I didn't prep this shower, nor did I install the heated floor in the bathroom. That was installed by a different sub contractor. I was only paid to install tile on this job.

>>1687313
>Regardless of how a tile run is layed out...it will be 2" smaller than the opening of the shower.
Dude, even drywallers understand this shit...

>>1687309
Also old world tile guys can get away with a lot more by pulling mud up a wall.
I agree this shower would look better with a 14" x 4" tile than the 12"x 4" installed.
Again were talking about the blue store here. This isn't classified as a custom job.
I think it is funny, one troll says he cannot believe a box store can do renovation in 7 figure homes snowballs into this derailment of a thread.

>>1687317
>were talking about the blue store here
At least they sell better tile supplies than the orange store. Do they actually budget for using Kerdi board?

>>1687315
>how do i even respond to this stupidity?
oh wait...this is how.
Despite your criticism, the homeowner was extremely happy. since then, I have completed many renovations in homes comparable to this.

>>1687320
I got certified with Ditra/Schluter free courtesy of the blue store

>>1687320
and yes, they tried to exclusively to install kerdi.
But surprisingly, didn't pass off any savings to the customer.
Mainly we installed the pan, and drain. using james hardie to close up the walls.
To be honest anon, I'm on the fence with kerdi.
It's great when it's one piece, but I don't like the fastener design. that huge washer can be a bull in a china shop. I still like james hardie. you can't go wrong with portland cenent.

>>1687327
>you can't go wrong with portland cenent.
Do you paint over it with something like Redguard?

>>1687315
Hey you moran, he said 2" smaller total, not 2" per side dumbfuck.

>>1687330
the more you dry to compare drywall installation to tile installation. Really shows off how much you do not know know about tile installation.

>>1687335
I'm talking about 3rd grade geometry here.

>>1687330
your taking pieces of material, and your joining them tight. telling me all the while I can't make my tile work.
Not fucking once, have you even responded to me stating a grout line. You obviously do not fucking know that 1/8" grout line across 8 tile equals one inch.
Yeah, I could have increased my grout line by a 1/16" of a inch across 8 tile resulting in a 1/2" extra tile.
It wouldn't have fucking mattered! i still would have been short, decreasing my grout line by a 1/16" of a inch would have gained me more me less than a 1/2" inch. making my cuts just a 1/8 bigger on either side.
This decrease in height will leave me with slivers at the top and bottom of my walls.
I did the right thing with what I had to work with.
Congratulations! you just got some free tile installation advice by pissing me off.
Now fuck off handyman, real contractors are talking here.

>>1687097
>undocumented citizens
Nice bait, fuck you, 4/10

>>1687329
man red guard is a band aid If a guy shows up and drywalls your shower/tub surround, then paints red guard or aqua defence (the green shit from the blue store). you should fire him on the spot. Because they obviously do not know what happening. Use cement board, start from the bottom build on top on of everything. (just like you would on a roof of a house)
Do't be cheap, buy the 50 dollar hardie blade, That's the right way to cut. Use schluter membrane on all the joints. Your shower will last like a old world shower did.

>>1687339
*you're
Congratulations, you just got some free spelling advice by pissing me off. Protip: I would never hire someone who couldn't spell "you're", regardless of their trade or ethnicity.
>Not fucking once, have you even responded to me stating a grout line.
Dude your missing the forest for the trees. I'm saying that instead of ending up with
>slivers at the top and bottom of my walls.
you ended up with slivers at the sides instead, the grout lines don't matter, take the L and learn better for next time. Go to bed so you're mind is fresh and you don't make the same mistake tomorrow.

>>1687103
I feel like both parties could be held responsible here.

>>1687205
I'm curious also, did the ladder show signs of wear? I mean you must have felt safe going up that thing. Did you ever find out which piece failed?

>>1687231
I remember the pre 9-11 days of construction.

>>1687296
Girlfriends are like bus's anon, one leaves there is another one 30 minutes behind.
Just know working that hard should afford 1st class bus travel.

>>1687347
I miss spelled a word. holy shit this invalidates all my previous posts.
Listen, I'm going to let you think YOU'RE the better person here.
But at the end of the day, it's easier to cut 1" slivers on the sides of the walls, than it would be to cut a raked full tile to a sliver, then try to emulate the sliver cut to nothing on the next tile on a tile saw, and by the way we pitched the ceiling to keep the steam from the steamer dripping off the ceiling back into the shower.
But feel free to keep showing off how much of a drywaller you are. Maybe possibly a amateur tile setter. In those low end flip homes you renovate.

>>1687358
>cut a raked full tile to a sliver
5" is a sliver....
>In those low end flip homes you renovate.
I may renovate low end homes, but I sure as hell would never hire you.

>>1687358
>it's easier
finally, we get to the root of the problem.

>>1687358
*misspelled.

>>1687362
>>1687363
>>1687365
this has been enlightening. You have re-enforced the age old saying.. you cannot argue with stupidity. also, ignorance is bliss.

>>1687344
Kek I love how Americans actually do know European build quality is far superior but will deny it wgen asked

>>1687344
>. Use cement board
Cement board is not waterproof. Put some water on it sometime. Long long ago before red guard they would hot mop it with tar.

>>1687379
https://youtu.be/Ouj4KgWBe8k

>>1687402
http://tileletter.com/2018/12/james-hardie-introduces-waterproof-cement-backer/

>>1687349
Well yeah all their ladders were used and beat up. You start refusing to use a ladder or mentioning OSHA you’ll be looking for a new job. I was young and hungry and new so I didnt know any better. The ladder folded where the two halves overlap due to apparently being in a fire. I found that out years after it was too late to file suit. The company got rid of it the next day.

>>1687417
>due to apparently being in a fire.

Jesus fucking christ are you retarded? We abuse the hell out of ladders and when one is fucked up we get rid of it. If the boss bitches, we just break it so it's useless.

You climbed a fucking 32 that was burned up? Darwin.

>>1687421
I said I was young and dumb
Feel better Captain Obvious ?

Commercial painters nuff said

The contractor company called Excel in KCMO
They do everything backwards like laying carpet and installing fixtures / hardware before it’s been primed

>>1687421
>being this much of a prissy equipment queen
China deserves to conquer you spoiled faggots.

>>1687088
>Car mechanic apprentice
>My mechanic had a car where the owner complained sounds when using the wipers
>We removed everything, oiled the joints, still it screeched and squeaked
>Ignition was on, wiper on intermittent
>Another mechanic comes, wants to help
>Touches the leverage without knowing its on intermittent
>Wipers wipe, he yells like a motherfucker
>Got his left thumb caught in the system
>Thumb was crushed like you'd hit it with a hammer pretty amazing for 12V and aluminum
>Motor compartment covered in blood drops
>Apprentice got the great honor to drive the car outside and clean the compartment via pressure washer

>>1687491
Ah yes the 1 Child Policy stair

>>1687402
>>1687403
https://youtu.be/uxROu4N0WMQ

>>1687315
>>1687330
>>1687339
>>1687347
>>1687358
>>1687362
>>1687363

This shit was hilarious to read

My pest control company will raise your rates if you have a shower pan instead of bath tub because so often these things are shitty and wrong they will leak and rot out the floor under it.

I've seen house flippers on youtube put a mortar bed right over plywood without tar paper or a moisture barrier.

>>1687348
I really wouldn't blame the kid especially if he's new. Some guy apparently almost let my dad lose a finger in a machine when he started at some factory as "a lesson" in where not to put your hands.

>>1687339
Nothing worse than following a shit job by the homeowner or a fly by sub. If you dont catch the shit beforehand it sounds like you’re making excuses. I lost many so called builders by telling the homeowner the dickhead had no idea what his shit subs created. It starts at the foundation if it isnt square and level its a whore all the way up. I’ve remodeled for 35 years I pick and choose my jobs, fuck new construction, employees and people that watch tv remodelers and think they know something...

>>1687726
I would say You don't know WTF your doing. Sure houses ain't perfect, but have you ever built a perfect house?

>>1687808
Oh i can build a perfect house....but you couldn’t afford it

>>1687810
Answer the question faggot. Have you ever built a perfect house.

>>1687491
Is this a circus performance?

>>1687815
Been picked on all your life havent you Princess?

>>1687092
Should all be strung up...

>>1687103
Most kids are piss ignorant now. Nb4 reeee boomers.

It's cheaper to pay for lawn care than busted ass mowers. Now that both parents work they are to tired to tired to do much oother than make sure their kids half ass mind as they play on games instead of outside.

When i was 13 i was building two trucks. Now there's fortnite.

Poor kid.

>>1687174
Can confirm. 0 excuse to not protect your ass. It's in everyone's best interest from square one.

Wups, left tile saw water pump on. Burns down suburbian household. Wups...

As opposed to uninsured. Welp, where's the lube?

>>1687205
Fuck annon. I fell 8 and can't walk. Yall are nuts

>>1687229
Reeeeee. Cut in from both sides

>>1688017
most boomers like you are far more ignorant and far dumber than today's kids
get fucked boomer, i hope you die soon so we can start unfucking this country

>>1687726
This. Sadly do to all the fly by night faggots people would rather go it alone than hire a legitimate pro.

>91 replies
>About 8 are stories
>The rest is paco Juan and heysus shit flinging over fucking tile

>>1688034
what else would you expect, DIY has some of the most retarded posters on this whole site, who are too retarded to even realize how retarded they are

>>1688025
I was born in 2,000 newfriend. One of the many perks of being in a boomer filled flyover area. You get to take advantage of all the new tech but you don't have to deal with cranky pussys like yourself. I tried fortnite. It's fun. But i also help run a few thousand head of cattle and get my dicck sucked occasionally. Not a lot of time to floss and shoot fake guns with strangers on the internet.

I personally wouldn't mind ging back a few decades where faggots like you got hit in the mouth for talking shit.

I'm on the internet near daily but it spawned an entire generation of that faggot at the party that talks shit and then has 7 buddies jump in. Everyone on the internet is that faggot kid it seems.

Thanks for showing me i was right. Have fun blaming the boomers for every single small insignificant thing that goes wrong in your life instead of looking in the mirror or even still blaming them and taking some initiative to unfuck yourself.

If not well good luck anon. Go spend your mom's welfare money on a new parachute

>>1688034
Oh hello newfriend. ;)

>>1688036
You get your dick sucked by cattle? Kek. Otherwise you're right, boomers are fun to work with once you know their deal

You should make time to floss though, stop terrorising others with your halitosis

>>1688036
good to know you have nothing to say so you'd rather just hit me like a mongoloid
there are genuine things to complain about our generation, but you have brought up none of them
not to mention that the reason kids are so sheltered today is becuase old fucks like you don't trust kids to go 20 minutes without knowing exactly where they are and what they're doing

>>1687109
Real life isn't like tv, homo. Everything's a grey area, nothing is ever resolved.

>>1688036
Genx here
Boomers are fine as long as they're redpilled (hate niggers, know of the JQ, don' t auto suck Uncle Sam's dick)

To think I came here for the stories, and all I got was salt. Lots and lots of salt.

>>1687171
Home Depot probably. They're fucking horrid

>>1687174
>>1687209
I was a plumbing apprentice for a while, worked out my own van.
I can definitely confirm that 7 figure houses use Mexicans and other undocumented for renovations.
I would pull toilets and sinks for new tile bathrooms in 7 figure houses at least once a month. Some Eastern European guys would show up in an unmarked van, not speak a word of English.
Ask homeowners why go through Home Dept, and they all say "it was a good deal"
Okay buddy, whatever you think is best.

>>1688034
Most tradies on /diy/ are bitter seething burnout losers. Not all of them can be electricians or linemen so they get pissed that they picked up a trade that can be outsourced to Hose-a for $0.25 on the dollar.

>>1687491
>Just fuck my spine up senpai

>>1687241
Pic related is the biggest horror story in the thread.

>>1688732

>>1688036
you seem real triggered there pal, why don't you tell us what's really wrong?

>>1688743
Your mom gave me the clap...

>>1688450

Most of them aren't even in a trade.

Just LARPers>>1688450

>>1687313
Forgive me if my question is a little naive,
But is there any reason why you can't move the tile layout over a few inches?
And start with a half or third a tile instead of a full or the little slices?

I know nothing about setting tile, just curious.

>>1688733
whats wrong with that?

>>1687209
Lets see....
You didn't put a level on your walls to see what they were doing did you? Didn't put a tape measure on them either, huh?
Because if you had your layout on the wall opposite the door wouldn't be such complete shit. I'll bet you just found center, then started laying left and right and figured "screw it, it'll be okay." And when you got up a couple of rows and SAW that it wasn't okay, you said "Fuck it, not my house." and just kept going with those shit little cuts in the corner that makes it look like some mouth breathing moron did the work. So, accurate I guess. Because god fucking forbid you move the pattern over a couple inches to make your cuts look good. God FUCKING forbid you use the cut offs to start the row on the next wall and wrap the pattern around to make your corners look good instead of that absolute shit fucking hack job you did in those corners. Jesus Christ.
>>1687254
AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT???
Are you using fucking hardibacker? Cause that shit doesn't look like real cement board to me. And anything less than cement board will NOT FUCKING CUT IT in a shower, ESPECIALLY a fully enclosed STEAM BATH like that. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? Do you want to know how many times I've seen hardibacker fail in a shower because it started delaminating? TOO GODDAMN MANY!
The seat is not under the tile, literally inviting water to find it's way down that joint and defeat your first line of defense against infiltration. It doesn't even look like you put any slope on the seat to help it shed water.
The recessed storage is on the same wall as the shower head, virtually guarenteeing that it will be soaking wet at all times, and again inviting infiltration. I don't see any slope on the bottom shelf of that storage either. But given the quality of the pic it could be there and I'm just not seeing it.
I hope for your sake you explained to the customer how dangerous a marble floor (1/2)

>>1689348
is, and had them sign a waiver of liability before installation. Because goddamn, a wet marble floor is an invitation to a cracked skull.

>>1689348
>>1689349
BTW, guy that's been doing tile work and general old home remodeling and restoration for 25 years now.

>>1687274
the only correct answer

>>1687088
>Be me.
>Literally first ever job, sparky's general labour.
>Get told by parents to expect hazing, but don't do anything unsafe, always ask first.
>First day.
>Everyone's in late. Get put with two guys spending all day in a church building, doing wires.
>Have to spend a good hour in a 1-3 foot high space under the building.
>Literally entire dead civilisation/species of spiders. Am moderate arachniphobe. Couldn't recognise the types, and there were enough cobwebs and bodies it made a maze.
>Turns out, the building was made in two halves, one a later add on.
>Had started at maybe fifty metres away, crawling round in cat shit, dust, spiders and all manner of shit before one of the guys tells me this.
>Other guy was just fucking with me.
>Turns out, after doing the thing, I had dropped my phone somewhere, and spent another half hour retracing my steps.
>Came out looking like I'd been spray painted in dust coloured texture paint.
>Was hacking up lungs for weeks afterwards, if not months.
>Was also mindful that the boards on the outside were asbestos, and that the position under the building I was in had slits close to where drilling was done.
>All I was given was a disposable elastic face mask for the dust. It didn't work.
>Would try and make jokes about how much it sucked. Got constantly belittled as soon as I said anything or didn't give 110%.
>Second half of day was spent in a roughly 40-50 degree celsius attic trying to get cables out around splintering wooden beams and not burn ourselves sitting somewhere.
>Also ran an hour longer then I expected.
>Got home, no change of clothes. Sat and cried and coughed up lungs in the shower for 20 mins.
It was the one time my father expressed concern for my physical and mental state after an event. And that was my first ever day working a job.

And that was only the first day of my time at that company. The serious safety shit came later.

>>1688017
No dude, that's a new kid not being supervised, not knowing what they're doing, being too eager to please people.
The kid doesn't know what he/she's doing, the foreman should have been supervising.

For example, I can't ask you to make a wire model of your extended family out of number 8. But if I asked some children, aged roughly 4+, in certain parts of africa, to do so, they'd be fine, because that's what they do instead of draw pictures as a kid. It's the same with the new kid. It's something he didn't know how to do.

>>1687088
How about a machine shop horror story?
>working in an older cnc shop
>owner and several of the other worker are dismantling the chip conveyer on what i think was a dae woo
>they use a forklift to move it into the center isle for some reason
>it slips off the fork lift and pins one of the older guys hand to another machine
>old, rusty jagged metal tears through his hand
>learn all this later
>hes quickly whisked off the shop floor
>management doesn't bother to explain the pools of blood
>he comes back the next day with 10 stitches and a hand so swollen he can't bend his fingers
Thats the only thing i saw personally but i heard about broken toes and multiple people having a bad tango with the grinders.

>>1687097
>(((undocumented citizens)))

>>1689520
But remember, if you work for an IBEW/NECA contractor, you're a libtard discord tranny commie shill. Keep up the hard work, one day they'll pay you $7.50/hr instead of $7.25/hr :^)

>>1689749
>IBEW/NECA
>That whole thing.
First, no. Didn't work for either of them, don't even know what they stand for.
Second, it was just a place with some shocking safety standards, like "Here, climb six metres up this less then 2 foot wide ladder as it rests on this single chrome square pole edge, then hold onto the underside of the catwalk and lean 1-1.5 metres over one side to thread a cable without supervision or a harness."
Only realised how bad it was when I had my next job where they bought me a full set of safety gear and were cautious about teaching me how to use everything first.
Third, minimum wage in my country is roughly $15.86.

>First, no.

>>1687870
What, tradies around there can't walk the ladder like that?
t. Eastern yuro

i hate doing residental work. somebody always trying to get away with something.

>first years come to site
>it all goes to shit
>30% of them are retards
the usual

>>1690164
Cheap labor isn't skilled and skilled labor isn't cheap. It's the bosses fault.

Of course in metropolitan areas even unskilled are even asking for more.

>>1687103

Why didn't you fucking stand up for the poor guy? His life is ruined now because he trusted the seniority of a stupid fucking lazy boomer and your lack of assertion.

>>1690167
no shit its the bosses fault, the cheap asses won't even buy more ladders or powertools so instead we're slowed down and they lose more money in the long run. also
>im working with one of the new guys
>he's not new to construction, did some demo before
>ok drive the screw here and we'll run a line
>he takes a whole minute to sink it in
>he's using his fucking drill with a stripped phillips instead of an impact
>where the fuck is your impact
>"oh sorry I broke it 2 weeks ago and I haven't gotten it fixed yet"
>ok, here's mine, sink the screw in
>later that day I tell him to mark the string at a certain distance
>"Oh sorry I don't have a sharpie
>ok, here's mine, now mark it here
>later again I give him a piece of track
>cut it here and give me the piece
>"Oh sorry I don't have my tin snips, let me run down to the trailer to get them"
>ok, here's mine, cut the thing here
its now been 2 weeks and he still hasn't gotten his impact fixed or a new bit. fuck these guys where does head office even find there people

>>1689333
Joints in marble/granite etc. should be touching. Usually a very small chamfer is applied to create a little birdbeak which is sealed with silicone. That looks like almost 10mm of gap between the pieces, I'm sure the triggered bathroom fitter itt will have some wild justification, like he has for everything else, but that joint is unacceptable no matter the circumstances. When your customer tells you they want solid stone surfaces like marble/granite/quartz you should find a professional to handle that aspect of the project, from the template to the fitting, if at that point you end up with a result like in the pic, you sure as hell don't pay.

>>1690164
>go to job site
>it's a literal horror story

>>1690170
Well, they put out a job listing asking for people with 20 years experience willing to work for minimum wage and no benefits, wring their hands when no one with experience applies, hire whoever was dumb enough to submit an application, and then spend all the money they saved on hookers and blow.

>Working at a factory that fabricates and finishes box trucks
>Greenhorn kid wants to weld but they won't train him until he learns how to install lift gates
>Experienced lift gate installer is a drunk Indian, known for arriving to work at 7am fucked up
>Management does nothing
>Greenhorn kid is paired with drunk Indian
>First day working together the Indian is operating the forklift, drunk
>Indian tells the kid he's going to drive the forklift forward to align with the truck bed
>Kid is stupid and stands behind the forklift
>Drunk Indian drives backward, runs over the kids foot, breaks it and knocks him to the ground unconscious
>Work isn't stopped, the manager scoops him up and drives him to a health clinic
>Kid shows up a few weeks later on crutches doing office paper work now
>I told him "you are going to talk to a lawyer, right?"
>Kid says "no way they gave me this easy desk job and didn't fire me for getting hurt"
>.................

>>1691126
>At the same job
>Made one friend, guy was the lead welder, a young guy, who was sharp and easy to work with
>I quit because I got a better job
>Read in the paper that someone was seriously injured and medevaced out to the big city hospital
> Fuck, I hope everyone is ok, not surprised tho, place was dangerous
>See another guy who works there around town, ask him what happened
>Lead welder was under a raw box truck frame he had just welded, running low voltage wire
>Frame is suspended in the air by air bags connected to a compressor, no secondary back up jacks in place
>While under the frame he throws the compressor hose to the other side of his body so it's out of his way, quick connect on the hose hits the ground and breaks apart
>Air is deflating from bags as he tries to get out, not fast enough tho
>Truck frame crushes his skull against the slab floor, massive head injury, eyes out of sockets, pituitary gland permanently damaged
> Survives, has to learn to walk, talk and care for himself after lengthy rehab process
>See him at home Depot with his buddy much later, very sad....not the same guy anymore....

>>1691132
>Years pass, read in paper that a man who was home with this children left a loaded gun under the bed and his son found it a shot his younger sister
>Fucccc... So sad, very tragic
>No names in story because investigation still underway
>More time passes trial has ended and story is now public that the man was my welder friend
>He no longer worked obviously, and stayed home watching his two young children
>Says he went outside to smoke and let dogs out, heard the gunshot
>No charges
>hard to understand how so much tragedy and sadness could follow one guy around

>>1691126
>>1691132
>>1691139
wtf man

>>1691139
Who keeps a loaded gun under a fucking bed with kids in the house? I mean, come on. There's "tragedy" following you around and then there is just being fucking stupid. People like that give responsible gun owners a bad reputation.

>>1687295
>honest rebuttal
>bullshit cockmongling giving out the poorest of poor lazy halfwit excuses an illegal would be embarrassed to say

and you wonder why you're a fitter for a big box store.

>>1691171
100% this. If I had kids there's no way I'd leave my guns where I do now.

>>1687322
>tries to defend his absolute garbage work ethic by pointing out he's scammed other idiots with his lazy bullshit

>>1687358
>can't manage basic spelling
perfect example that you shouldn't be anywhere near a workplace if you're functionally illiterate and can't make clean measurements of tiles without weird offcuts.

>>1689749
Dude gave temp in Celcius.
Americans don’t do that, particularly Americans who are contractors.
Hrnce the Unions you mentioned don’t apply.

>>1690167
Unskilled labor is asking for more, because you can’t house yourself, let alone feed and clothe yourself for minimum wage, unless you’re eating your parents food and living in their house for free.
If you’re doing work and need boots and work clothes and tools, you’ll need to be paid $20 an hour minimum to even start pff to make tough contracting work an experience that actually leaves you with money in your pocket at the end of the day.
Maybe if you live in Detroit or Baltimore with shitty buildings for rent, but most major cities are expensive, and that is even when you don’t need s car due to decent public transportation services.

>>1690170
>its now been 2 weeks and he still hasn't gotten his impact fixed or a new bit. fuck these guys where does head office even find there people
I worked in an office at a not-for-profit that probably had 100 plus weekly employees or more, plus numerous part time workers on a regular basis, and went thru millions of $ in salary per year, with the head earning about $400,000 a year.
The office I worked in couldn’t be bothered to supply pens on a regular basis, so I would have to walk to Staples to buy pens with my own money so me and my coworkers could do our jobs.
For $200 a year, the office could have supplied all the pens needed for every employee in the office even if the pens dissapeared daily.
Another $200 would have saved weeks of employee time just sorting thru disorganized papers.

>>1687171
Lowes.

>>1690213
thanks for the explainer, makes sense. Why do they need to touch out of curiosity? Is it so the stone is supporting the weight instead of the caulk supporting the weight?

>>121789134
Breh

>>1687229
Uhh lol

>>1687309
Wouldn't it be easier to add another layer of cement board?

>doing a renovations job
>full gut job
>turn of the century home
>I'm doing it on the side because recently divorced, need money under the table so ex gets none
>its like 9:30pm and I'm there alone
>open up the wall in basement
>dead babby in the wall
>woahhhh buddy
>call the owner (house flipper)
>hey man uhhhh....I dont know how to put this gently so I'm just gonna say it....found a dead baby in the wall
>his face when
>he thinks I'm fucking with him but he agrees to come over
>I was in shock at first but its sinking in now
>I'm just standing there staring at the thing waiting for him to get there
>he sees it
>doesnt say a word just looks at it for while
>what do we do man?
>he calls cops
Turns out for this time period it wasnt all that uncommon. It was a big house with separate living quarters for the help so cops say it was likely a wealthy persons thot daughter had a late term miscarriage or one the "help" did and they hid it to cover up the thottery

Oh and also it turns out it's difficult to sell a house when you have to disclose there was a dead baby in it

>>1687088
>Worked at a grain barge loading company on the Mississippi River
>The company owned a deep mine cut into the Riverside bluff
>Perfect storage facility. Remained a constant temperature year round.
>After a few turns in the mine, it's pitch dark if you don't have any lights.
>So dark you can't see your hand directly in front of your face
>So dark you start imagining you see things. Practical sensory deprivation.
>Our company has an excellent safety record
>Proper lockout tagout procedures.
>Start of day safety meetings to discuss any potential risks for the day's tasks.
>But they rented half of the mine out to a silica sand company with a shoddy safety record.
>They were always having minor accidents.
>The bosses urged speed over safety
>One day, I was sitting in my barge loading booth when some ambulances and police vehicles sped onto the property.
>Accident in the mine
>A lady working in the mine got ran over by a massive end loader.
>The driver didn't follow the correct procedure when coming up to an intersection and didn't see her
>According to the driver's statement, he didn't even feel it when he hit her
>He didn't know what happened until he reentered the mine and saw a pile of gore that used to be a person
>The lady was married
>Her husband also worked at the mine
>The boss had a manager break the news and gave the husband the rest of the day off

>>1687088

>>1691730
Did you keep it?

>>1691766
No they had people come and take it like the same way they so anytime someone dies. And I went to that job a few times after working late. The one day I was there until like 1am and I could swear I heard a baby crying. I went outside and the street was completely empty and I couldn't hear anything. I acted like a little bitch and noped the fuck out and didnt work there after dark anymore. I'm sure it was all in my head but I swear to God I could hear a baby crying faintly

>>1691171
>Who keeps a loaded gun under a fucking bed with kids in the house?

Someone with severe brain damage, apparently.

>>1691782
Yeah, conversely I used to work with a guy who kept a loaded shotgun under his bed, no kids though. When one of his girlfriends pissed him off, he got depressed and blew off half his face, resulting in severe brain damage, kind of opposite of the matter being debated, but still relevant IMO.

>>1691730
What'd it look like?

>>1691843
Basically a tiny skeleton with soiled looking blanket wrapper around it

>>1691685
Purely aesthetics in most cases, as the top piece is most often supported by carcassing or similar underneath, but that's just the way it is.

>>1691754
>The boss had a manager break the news and gave the husband the rest of the day off

oh what a great boss, "Sorry our crap safety policies killed your wife, take the rest of the day off, but your shift tomorrow starts at 9"

>>1689520
I thought that's what sparkies do everyday...
I don't know any sparkies

>>1691754
CGB, Clayton, IA. Been there.

>>1692071
Bingo

>>1689520
some tradesmen love to abuse the apprentice for whatever reason. i work in a machineshop and i think im the only guy who actively tries to go and teach the apprentices anything. everyone else watches them struggle or do stupid dangerous things. i hope things have gotten better for you anon

>>1692071
My dad used to work there back in the 50's he'd drive the truck up to the mine and check the CO levels (or something) then go down and fuck around in the office.

>>1688036
so this is the power of zoomers

>>1691770

Fucker with a tape recorder heard the story and decided to prank you.

>>1692146
Prison caste system. This isn't educated people, is it?

>>1687491
im another anon, but just imagine being such a massive moron to not value your own health over a bullshit job you anyway can get another of.
The chinese doesnt have a choice, hence why apple factories in china had nets, so that when they tried to commit suicide the nets would catch them. For example.

You fucking stupid cunt ;)

I got 1

>working job converting old 3 story open factory into a retail building
>union got their claws into the jobsite
>throughout building were several 440 panels
>union "electricians" were leaving these live panels wide open with spaghetti hanging out
>greenhorn kid go-fer for the electricians was guiding the wire in the wire/conduit pulling machine thing
>suddenly other end of building is all sparks and lightning
>darkness, screaming electricians
>we're all told to get out
>hear later that 40 year veteran Union Electrician wasn't paying attention, grounds made contact with MAIN bar in the live 440 panel
>greenhorn became The Ground
>story is that his hands looked like overcooked exploded sausages, he lived, but never saw or heard about him again.

>>1687171
Obviously Lowe's.

>>1687174

Insurance Agent here - Can confirm. If you have subs its not a bad idea to call their agent to confirm the policy is still active. Plenty of shady people get insurance for a month and don't pay the premium, just to show they are "covered". Its very cheap, and very easy to get.

>>1687211
Workers Comp Insurance is considered "No Fault". Meaning that the party injured as well as the company with workers compensation coverage are not found liable for damages. So basically a claim is held against no one.

>>1692501
Fuck Lowe's. Home Depot may be full of fucking addicts but the addicts at Lowe's act like they're better than you and know jack shit

>>1687097
Shalom Rabbi Shekelblatt

How about this one I saw on here a year ago

>30 year old neet gaymer
>forced to get a job by his parents
>family friend lands him a job with a tree maintenance outfit
>lies and says he can drive big trucks to get out of doing "manual work"
>gets told to take loaded dump truck to landfill
>doesn't even have a license for a car
>truck starts rolling downhill gaining speed
>can't drive stick so can't downshift to slow down
>air brakes start to fade
>truck ends up crushing a minivan and smashing into a house
>guy blames everything on autistic blackout

>>1692616
I think that was from /o/

>>1687174
>Most undocumented mexicans don't work in the 7 figure homes. They work in the 5 and low 6 figure ones. I rarely see anyone bit a white men in the big money homes.

Most ILLEGALS.....

No such sing as "undocumented" . They're documented in their home countries. Here, they're fucking "illegals".

>>1692621
Nah, I never go to o/ and remember the post. To us he blamed it on his boss even though he lied to his boss about it

>>1687088
>painter doesn't have liability insurance
That's fine. I'm sure he has a lawyer or will have soon enough. kekekek.

>>1687294
>>1690169
This. Anon is a shithead just like the foreman. That's okay though. The foreman will get himself and anon killed eventually and it will all even out.

>>1687174
>mexicans don't work in the 7 figure homes
Mexicans are building 2 million dollar homes in California.

>>1692805
>>mexicans don't work in the 7 figure homes
>Mexicans are building 2 million dollar homes in California.

This may be true, but that 2 million dollar home located in the Independent Socialist Stare of Kalifornia generally costs half of a mill in other less... Socialist states.

>>1692621
How about this one then. Definitely from here.

>American hipster "influencer" studying photography in Germany
>decides he wants to be a "Carhartt blue collar type"
>applies for a marine diesel engine maintenance job at some tour company in Norway
>wage is like €8000 per month with private accommodation and a company van
>lies on application and claims to have experience
>actually gets the job
>never held a wrench in his life
>begs /diy/ to teach him
>too afraid to even change the fuel filter because the act of "bleeding" something triggers him

>>1692945
>generally costs half of a mill in other less... Socialist states
Probably, they're all built like a cheap movie set anyway.

Its not expensive because of socialism. Its expensive because its where Chinese people with money want to live

>>1692066
It is, apart from the asbestos. Zoomer anon needs to get a desk job if he can't handle hot ceilings and dusty crawl spaces. Work needs to be done where it needs to be done. It's physically uncomfortable sometimes but that's the job

>>1687171
Lmao clearly Lowe's, was wondering what made them pull the trigger to cut that dumbass PSI program...

>>1691766
>hides thottery by putting baby corpse in the wall

why not just bury it or even better burn it, how did they live in a house with the smell etc.

>>1687088
painters are the dodgiest of the trades

>>1687340
they don't need to be documented because they are not citizens, they are resident aliens

>>1689779
>Third, minimum wage in my country is roughly $15.86.
which doesn't really matter considering that the cost of everything is higher. the average working adult makes around 60/hr, living in an average house, driving an average car. 60USD/hr is upper middle class. 60aud/hr is just middle class.

>>1692993
I hope you don't actually believe this fake shit.

>>1692805
2 mil when converted from californian to american is ~400k

>>1694037
2 mil in California dollars can buy approximately 5 plywood mcmasions valued at $400,000 each in flyover country.

>>1691941
>Also you're not getting paid for the rest of the day, just in case you were wondering
>And make sure you clock your wife out when you leave too

>>1694039
Right, 'cause your land ain't worth shit. When you can buy 20 undeveloped acres of land for less than the cost of a new car you have to wonder why it's going so cheap. Oh, its 'cause no one wants to live there. That explains it.

>>1687088
1500sf hardwood was to be finished.plumber put in water pipes in bathroom no shut offs town comes by turns water on from street upper stairs bathroom floods with in ten minute two feet of water in basement. Plumber didn't get paid calls to have water turned on.three days of sanding and scraping Brazilian oak with hearts of palm insets trashed.got paid for the install.

>>1693624
still trying? they're illegal aliens.

>>1694112
keep coping, coastie
my family will get to enjoy a goddamn palace, while you get to eat shit in your shoebox of an apartment

>>1687252
Customers have no regard for things like this.

>>1687315
How does thime tile faggot not understand this. You always begin and end on more than half a tile. If you have a sliver you shift layout half a tile to make it work. Drop ceiling, tile...anything like that. Tile guy, you are a HUGE nigger.

>>1692146
>some tradesmen love to abuse the apprentice for whatever reason. i work in a machineshop and i think im the only guy who actively tries to go and teach the apprentices anything. everyone else watches them struggle or do stupid dangerous things.

i have noticed this at times myself.

if you ever meet a tradesman shitting on their help there is a chance the help sucks, but theres also a chance theyre afraid the help will replace them soon enough.

>>1692358
I mean.. dude the union guys have stories just like that about "rat" contractors/companies it happens man.. it shouldn't ever happen but it's not a union vs non thing that's just the reality of electricity

>>1694158
As opposed to Sting, who was a legal alien?

This is somewhat unrelated to this thread but considering the amount of handymen in this thread, how does one get a job starting out in this line of work? I work in the warehouse of a large retail store but never see job postings for entry level/no experience/training provided construction stuff. And I'm in the Atlanta area so I'm sure there's some but I just don't know where to look.

>>1687296

was this in indiana by any chance?

>>1694477
Make a decent looking resume and go into contracting shops and ask for a manager/owner and tell them you want to be hired as a period 1 apprentice. They might hum and haa but they'll take your resume and contact you when they need extra hands. Avoid residential. Industrial work is the best but commercial work is plentiful.
t. E&I apprentice

>>1694488

Hey thanks man.

>>1694498
Anytime.
If you're interested in money, more stable work, and are capable of using a computer and learning about industrial systems I would recommend getting your 4th class or 3rd class power engineering ticket. Use that to become a plant operator. You do small maintenance tasks and turn a bunch of valves but the work is really engaging and a less physically demanding then the majority of the trades. There's big money to be made if you get into oil and gas as a plant operator.

>>1692268
you don't know that chinese factory workers are like the lowest of the low class in china. they are basically like the people in the west who believe in herbal medicines and stupid mom-tier shit like that, but they also can't handle any responsibility because it just "stresses them out" too much. if they were smart they would not be working at a factory, and if they were smart they would have some money and wouldn't want to commit suicide

>>1691941
>oh what a great boss, "Sorry our crap safety policies killed your wife, take the rest of the day off, but your shift tomorrow starts at 9"
come on, you know it wasn't really like that

>>1691730
>>1691917

now that's a good story, i'd buy you a beer

>>1687231
Sounds like men being men and getting shit done.
No wonder now everything is shit and costs a fortune.

>>1692616
iirc he blamed the boss for not making sure he didn't have a cdl, and his parents for making him get a job.

>>1691731
Does that affect the price at all?
Because I'll live in the house of a fucking HH Holmes impersonator if the place is nice and the price is low.

>>1692805
Kek

They're building $15 million houses in San Fransisco. Every job site has Mexicans.

>>1695080
>$15 million houses in San Fransisco
Wow, that's got to be 2 bed, 2 bath, maybe even a full kitchen!

>>1687340
do we have a triggered libtard here?

>>1688365
I did a job for a 7 figure house where an addition was done with a patio roof and the cash mexicans waterproofed the roof with a pool liner cut exactly square with the roof with no overhang or nothing. thing was leaking big time after 2 months and the mexicans are no where to be seen. The homeowners solution was to just coat the entire patio and the side with a waterproof roofing membrane....

thats texas for you

>>1695080
>They're building $15 million houses in San Fransisco. Every job site has Mexicans.

Can confirm.

t. work 10 mins from Mar A Lago, WPB.

>>1688450
Alot of drug addicts too

>>1687088
I doubt he was doing his work legally even ignoring this shit. Oil based paint indoors are a massive pain in the ass if you want to do it legally.

Oil based paints indoor are for amateurs now, because they don't have to follow the rules any way,not professionals.

>>1687097
>no safety or PPE
We had a crew of asians on a job doing fiber splicing. They never had PPE on or out, and to top it off their splicing was shit and had to be re-done. Dumbass head asian had the balls to ask if they could be the ones to come back and fix it when he's the retard who fucked it all up.

>100ft wide rancher
>gas system was pressurized with air for the inspection 2 weeks ago
>an extra drop was added for hvac in attic.
>gas passes reinspection
>2PM friday
>on site just to keep the subs working
>just me and dumbass plumbers on site hooking up new gas
>dryer installed next
>client's wife smells gas
>plumber tightens connector at dryer and checks with soap
>no bubbles
>i smell gas
>plumber says it's fine and goes home at 2:30
>I finish my work on other end of house and am ready to leave by 3:00
>gas smell is slightly worse in the addition by this point
>client gets home while I'm looking for
leak
>why does it smell like gas in here, anon?
>client follows me around while I check all of the connections
>Open attic access
>wave of gas
>proceed up the stairs and down the narrow passage to hvac platform
>ssssssssss pic related
>rush to shut off main without creating any type of fire
>client thanks me for being diligent
Turns out owner of the plumbing company's son put the compression fitting on backwards and the inspector didn't bother to check the pressure gauge when he inspected the new work. This same plumber who burned 3 holes in the paint installing radiators and dripped solder on a brand new floor.
By some miracle the client doesn't hate us.

>>1698690
>nepotism
ruins the industry desu

>>1698691
Actually the kid is pretty good at what he does, it's the dumbass plumber who never showed him how to put on fittings at fault.
He was too lazy to climb up into the attic to check the kid's work. It was his 3rd day on the job or something like that.
I should probably point out that everyone would have died if that airconditioner had kicked in. A 100ft wide unpartitioned attic full of gas would have made a pretty big explosion.
Also I got my job from nepotism so....

>>1698690
>>1698696

It always amazes me how cavalier some guys can be with gas.

I'm especially nervous about the expanding use of flex SS gas lines, as one time at a reno job at a Golf Course McMansion where I was doing the finish carpentry on the staircase, I went down in the basement, hit the last stair down OVERWHELMING smell of gas, I bolted back upstairs and out to the garage and killed the power at the main, found the gas meter on the side of the house and shut it off, and called the Fire Department.

The FD guys got there, went in and waved magic wands, the gas had pretty much displaced ALL the air in the basement.
2,000 sq.ft of basement with 8 foot ceiling. Filled with gas.
Imagine the potential boom.

Well, turned out that one of the Kitchen cab guys, used one of those oscillating tools to cut the sheetrock so the cab would hand better,... BUT he also pretty much bisected a 3/4" SS flex gas line for the upstairs steam room heater.

Gas, IMHO, should only ever be in threaded black Schedule 40 steel

I once knew a guy who got half buried in a trench. The half wit excavating company tied a rope around him and tried to pull him out, ripping him in half. I still have PTSD from that day and I have never been in another trench. Could've easily been me or someone else. I honestly cant get more into detail about it, but the trench wasnt shored at all with wood and at the time I didnt know any better because I was an apprentice in my first 6 months. Just talking about it is something that makes me very panicky and teary. Call me a girl or whatever I've never been the same person since then. Make sure the trench is secured when you go in guys. Being buried alive or worse is not a way to go out

>>1698727
Sorry you had to go through that anon, that's just straight fucked up and I hope that company and everyone involved were put in their place. Consider counselling, I've heard stories of worker not showing up out of the blue and it turns out they've killed themselves because of work related mental health issues.

>>1692993
t. seething franz that got denied by his dream diesel engine maintenance job so he autistically believes every story on the internet

>>1695061

He did, which was hilarious because he even said he was asked, immediately prior, if he had a CDL by the boss.

>>1698715
>Gas, IMHO, should only ever be in threaded black Schedule 40 steel
what a pain in the ass that is though.
with flex pipe, a tough job can be done in a couple hours with no demo and two guys, maybe even one.
doing it in steel? okay we're completely cutting this out, that out, we're removing this beam, we're moving this shit, oh get all your shit out of your basement because it's in our way, we're cutting open this wall, we're cutting open this floor here, and we will bring in a team of guys and be here a couple days. so you better not be here because you will be in our way and none of are guys will bother to talk to you. oh and we don't do anything post pipe fitting, it's up to you to fix your walls, floors, and beams. sound good?

>working as welding apprentice on oilfield, laying pipe
>watching stoners get hired and avoiding drug tests because they "need the bodies"
>all pipes get buried before final inspections can be done
>inspections get rubber stamped because gov't pays regardless.
>One day hear godawful BOOM about 5km from jobsite.
>15m crater where a testing "pig" got stuck because of holes in pipe. venting natural gas into a groundswell pocket. pressure caused explosion that burned out immediately.
>Welders blame undetonated ordinance because we work on a military base.
> No one reprimanded

>>1698817
Alberta Oilfield.
Drilling on CFB Suffield.
other than the Mormons on the team I doubt anyone could passed a drug test. even the mormons might fail simply from proximity.

>>1698715
This. I had one gas pipe installed by the local plumber/heating man, he insisted on using flexible pipe. Sure hope no future owner gets the idea to drill into the ceiling at some point. At least with copper you'll have a chance of not puncturing it at once. Steel would be better but nobody uses it here anymore and it'd be a pain to install it.

>Be brand new Inside Wireman Apprentice
>Go to cut some wires to replace a box for my foreman
>Fumble for meter
>"Oh, it's off."
>Stupidly trust this retard
>Snip
>Kleins explode in my hand
>"Huh. Guess it wasn't off."
>Motherfucker just walks off

Now I don't trust anyone. Not even myself. If I haven't had direct line of sight over the power switch for more than thirty seconds, I check and double check the wire.

>>1698942
>>1698715
That job in particular, the inspector made us sheath the pipe with pic related anywhere it was closed in. Most of this flex pipe was in crawlspaces anyway, just 1 run up a 2x6 wall to get from the basement crawlspace to the attic. Probably wouldn't stop a determined idiot, but a stray drywall screw wouldn't go through it.

>>1694477
not shit for work out there except dishwasher and warehouse jobs

>>1688034
welcome to /diy/

>>1694101
How does a guy not snap and kidnap his boss and their family and Jigsaw the lot after an event like that?

>>1695074
It's called stigmatized property. Usually you don't have to say shit if you're selling. Depends on the state in the US at least.

>>1687088
>be me, wood worker, general wood repair, refinisher and hobbyist. Hired sometimes for some wood work, cabinetry etc.
>get hired by a GC to work a job in a Catholic Church: refinish some pews, and some old desk in the place where the priests live next to the church. Don't know what they call it, since I'm Baptist.
>strip some pews, and add some boiled linseed oil to condition the pews overnight.
>next day, wipe up and reapply
>go to building next to church where priest live, and enter office of priest.
>start work on old desk.
>remove doors, remove drawers
>move desk carcass on to plastic canvas
>in one of the drawer slots I find some gay porno dvd.
>not sure if I should give the gay porno dvd to the priest.
>If I had found money or jewelry I would certainly return it to the priest, but the gay porno dvd would be weird interaction.
>find pens, coins and some papers in the back of the middle drawer.
>get paper bag and place all items in the bag. Find priest, tell him this stuff was in the desk.
>priest thanks me, looks in bag, and turns beet red.
>turn around and get back to work sanding, vacuming, fixing dings etc.
>later tell GC about it, and everyone laughs over pizza and beer.

One more funny and heartwarming story. This time its about illegal alien workers.

>be me next door neighbor user.
>someone posts that they need kitchen cabinets installed and was wondering who would do it for cheap/free.
>I post that they should go with XYZ GC since they can do kitchen islands and are insured. I've done cabinets with them and no issues.
>someone posts that they can drive to home depot and hire the day workers.
>no calls into GC about kitchen cabinets.
>months go buy and life happens.
>back on next-door neighbor site, someone posts that their kitchen cabinets have fallen off the walls.
>get call into GC for emergency repair of kitchen.
>go there next day.
>they hired some day worker from home depot parking lot to install cabinets to wall. The guy made french cleats to mount the cabinets to the wall, but his mistake was he used only glue to mount the cleat to the cabinet, or used inferior glue, or didn't clamp to dry.
>the mount was property attached to the studs.
>French cleats is a good way to install cabinets but the cleat should be deep, and should be installed with glue and wood screws.
>homeowner had to buy new cabinets, dishes and some pots and pans damaged.
>asked how much they paid the day worker. "I gave them each $150 and free pizza".

>metal forge
>fuck off to take a call
>other guy takes over
>kettle breaks somehow
>molten iron spills on him
>didn't even hear him scream
>factory owner runs over
>fucking starts cleaning up the remains
> calls next guy to continue the work

kinda expected police or some shit or at least some documentation/consideration, immediately bailed and quit right there

Usual shit really, illegal aliens and junkies doing stupid shit. Had one coworker who needed me to handle all driving because too many DUI's, and another who spent half the time on the job site hiding in a trailer smoking ketamine. Roofing is fun.

>one day we are working on a massive curved hangar
>hot as fuck, humid too
>coworker goes up 48ft ladder
>gets halfway up, stops
>falls over backwards
Poor bastard had a heart attack, was dead before he hit the ground. I stopped doing construction because I didn't want to die working.

Turns out flex seal is a poor substitute for industrial roofing sealant. Who would have guessed.

>>1700188
>making up bullshit to get attention

>>1700360
>attention on a anon board

>>1700360
Could be true, if he's in China!

>>1700256

I work in leak repair, I got a call in the middle of the day once to drive 4 hours out into the boonies for an emergency. I pull up to this tank farm in the middle of a corn field, nothing but corn for miles in any direction. There's a guard shack upfront and the whole place is surrounded by a giant embankment wall and a ramshackle cattle fence. Security guard comes out and says I can't drive in there because of the leak. There's no compressed gas tanks, only liquid tanks so I think that's weird. I get to the top of the dyke and I can smell nothing but kerosene. Look down and there's about a foot and a half of kero pooling up. They've rigged up a red carpet for me out of pallets and pipes that run across the pipe racks. Go back to the truck and get my fireman gear and make the walk across this bridge. Get about 200 feet in and I see it. A guy is standing there with his thumb stuck in a broken one inch pipe. They've got the guy covered in some type of tarp. The rest of the workers are standing on top of everything to stay out of the pool. Yell over to them with a bit of a chuckle, "I guess none of those shut off valves work, huh?" None of them look amused. The tank had 2 old ass 16 inch gate valves coming off of it, neither were holding. The tank could probably hold over 50000 barrels of kerosene. After the 2 valves was a bung with a run of 1" pipe that went up 16 inches, across about 4 feet then down to a valve to a sample point. There was a piece of angle iron welded directly to the 4 foot run for support. I guess a guy was taking samples, got done and for some reason backed his truck up into the line and sheared it at the support. Simple fix for me but damn. I can only imagine the cleanup cost.

>>1694500
>2019
>turning valves as an operator

come on now best work is fully automated facility work, just sit behind the computer and make sure that motherfucker does its job, or else you turn the valves with the click of a mouse.

>>1699138
Fugggg I didn't know that existed. Anyway, our communist dictatorship is banning pipe gas as a fuel (NL) in a couple of decades anyway so the pipe will be useless then

>>1700687
Kek, imagine if that went up

>>1701033
It's not my job but the old guys complain here about new tech with automation still fucking up and having less control to fix it than with the old manual valves.

>>1701172
true to a degree but id rather have 4 days out of the year where it fails in my shift and have to fix it resulting in lets say an hour of work each time instead of having to memorise each valve and engine and when to activate it resulting in me having to run around and be active the entire shift instead of an hour of sidework while keeping checks with the computer system making sure its doing its job (it does 98% of the time). not having to go to work tired is infinitely better than 'having ultimate' control of the plant. although doing everything manually could result in faster processes its not needed most of the time. and nowadays not having automated systems in my line of operations (chemical pharma) is forbidden. we need to be able to show external auditors what happened at every second of the entire process

>>1692616
>air brakes start to fade
the air pressure keeps the brakes open, no?
loss of pressure means brakes lock?

>>1701256
Shit gets hot and loses friction

>>1701134
Hopefully it'll choke itself out because the embankment was about 20 feet tall and kero isn't too bad as far vapor goes. I know that won't happen but whatever. I've done countless lpg leaks where I have fire hoses pointed at me. I saw an ice ball about 4 feet in diameter from a particularly bad propane leak one time. Despite what you'd assume they get larger in the summer because of higher humidity. It was just a packing leak on an 8 inch valve but line pressure was like 550psi for some fucked up reason.

Something like this but this looks like 150# steam on a 1 inch valve.
https://youtu.be/fyfVHyFK_nI

>>1698727
this put a chill down my neck

>>1698671
What's ppe?

>medfag

>>1691186
IBEW - International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. There are about 70,000 members in Canada.

>>1701406
Personal protective equipment, universal acronym in English.

>>1701424
Also may be referred to as personnel protection equipment depending on the flavor of your facility.

>>1701232
Please anon. DYOR and buy Chainlink.
I'm not Shilling. If you work in Chem and automated systems you will realize its the future.

>>1701424
Thx. I wish more of my patients wore safety gloves. I'm tired of fixing the damage powersaws do on human hands. Also try to use oscillating saws if you can and push for more efficient ones. Regular saws are cancer

>>1701422
How does your country exist when 85% are sparkies?

>>1701431
Honestly man gloves are just another thing for a motor to grab on to and provide limited protection to the hand in this case. You're right though about saws as far as safety goes but a blade that maintains constant inertia(circular saw, band saw, table saw) will always make a cleaner and more accurate cut than something with alternating motion(reciprocating saw, jig saw) as far as motorized saws go in the hands people. You can't fix human error, people will always find a way to cut their fingers off.

>>1701436
I know but it's soul crushing to see 20y kids losing 2-3 fingers at a time on a daily basis because they are careless or the GC is rushing them. What about mail gloves?

>>1701437

Doesnt matter what material. Most saw blades are carbide toothed - it'll chop through pretty much anything in a matter of seconds.
Advising people to wear gloves around spinny power tools is stupid. Even with guards, when you play with power tools pay attention or die. Or get horribly mutilated.

>>1687103
Doesnt matter if the guy told him or not. Fuck, the guy could've told the kid not to do it.. the kid sues, he'll win. Long story short
>garage door broken
>guy wants to try and fix it
>boss tells him not to, theyll call a doornguy
>guy tries anyway while boss was out
>spring destroys guys shoulder
>guy sues, wins

>>1687322
He's more retarded than you then. I'm a fuggin auto tech and I can understand wtf you did there was stupid. But whatever. You just cut your slivers and I'll try and find solace in the fact somewhere out there morons make idiots happy.

>>1687367
>You have re-enforced the age old saying.. you cannot argue with stupidity. also, ignorance is bliss.

>>1688918
Yeah. You can do that. It's what other anon was trying to explain the whole time but the "expert tile layer" couldn't grasp the concept.

>>1701431
your actually not supposed to wear gloves while handling powertools as they can grab the glove and shear off your fingers and or hand

Not a "my job horror story" but a "my home horror story".

>Be me. Newly divorced
>rent town home since ex took half, and they gave her home in exchange for me to keep my full pension.
>town home nice and comfy but a bit depressed so I just work/sleep/eat/shit.
>start to feel better/time heals all wounds.
>notice some repairs needed in town-home rental.
>call up manager:
>window blinds missing one panel, faulty kitchen disposal, and some slow drains.
>plumber: male, fixed drains, replace disposal. Perfect.
>manager hires "woke" fat white lesbian couple/ GC to fix blinds.
>instead of installing blade they measure the blinds and "order whole device".
>Cheap blind arrives.
>Lesbians GC couple come back to replace the blind.
>They measured wrong, and blinds are too long, hits the floor.
>I tell them, its fine, just order the right size.
>they proceed to not do that and instead start to cut the blades
>note sure if I should protest, bit meek since I was destroyed in court from divorce.
>worried bout reports for misogyny, not woke enough, I guess.
>Lesbians GC proceed to cut the blade, but not square, slightly off.
>since the blades hang vertically, the sloppy cuts cause the blinds to hang at a slight angle, but I didn't notice until next morning.
>I let it go, since I was having my kids visit my "new home".

I should have called up and complained but I was so beaten by the divorce system that I didn't want to fight anything for a while. I did mention it to the manager recently, and they want to keep me as a renter for a while so they might give me new appliances and replace the blinds. We'll see.

tldr: divorce sucks the energy and money from you. Women general contractors are terrible.

>>1700256
Oh fuck I got told to do that shit so much in IM. Fucking there'd be bullet holes or some shit and my boss would send me up the ladder with flex seal. I couldn't look the fucking client in the face.

>remove concrete blocks
>of a stadium
>by hand
>wearing air tight suit
>and breathing through a full face mask
>while also in canvas tented area
>in summer
Pour an inch of sweat out of rubber boots by lunch time. Asbestos removal is one of the most enjoyable jobs I've had.
Only major injury I've seen was a guy cutting into his arm with a grinder trying to cut commercial ductwork with it. He recovered fine as far as I know.

>>1702125
So in a house that you didn't own, you had to watch someone put up blinds wrong, that you didn't pay for? Yeah, that's a scary story there Anon. You win the thread.

>>1701382
And probably some of spinal cord.

>>1700414
(you)s are wery sweet anon

>>1698727
I worked for a terrible water and sewer pipeline company that did things like that. I refused to get into a trench that was 2 meters deep, no slope at all. The foreman yelled at me when I said I'd go get shoring. When I returned with the shoring, guys were already working in the trench until a massive hunk of clay fell off of one side and pinned one guy's leg down.

One of the pipe layers had a prosthetic leg and the story I was told was that he was injured when the crew was installing 36" PVC pipe. They were pulling the lengths of pipe together using a steel plate with chains on the end of the pipe and the other end of the chains attached to the excavator. The pipe layer was standing on the pipe between the plate and the machine when the plate slipped off and flew toward him at light speed, striking his leg and turning it to mush. Instead of him going to the worker's compensation board, the company kept him on the payroll for 2 years while he was rehabilitated.

>>1688036
>Not a lot of time to floss
Gross.

>>1689923
In the States the safety guy will yell at you if he catches you doing that.

>2011, the time of the scrapper
>Winter, -10°burgers without windchill
>Abnormally cold this year
>buddy calls me, he's been in Florida with his family
>somebody broke in
>ask him what they took
>the copper pipes
>he said it's leaking bad and he can't figure out how to shut it off
>grab my portable sump, some tools and rush over
>get there and hear water gushing from outside
>he takes me downstairs, well as far as he can, there's almost 3 feet of water
>he duck hunts so he gives me a pair of rubber bibs
>take handrail off stairs, use it to reach across the gap and pop the main breaker
>use flashlights to wade the water
>cold as shit because the water killed the furnace
>get to where the water meter used to be, just gotta find the valve
>just gotta find the valve
>...there's no fucking valve, they cut the pipe clean like 2 inches above the ground
Jam up pipe, restore power to outside outlets, pump water onto back patio because any farther out the line would freeze, dig through 4 feet of frozen ground to shut off mains. Get space heaters and fans, dry shit out, get furnace running(blown fuse, no damage). They only took the pipes that weren't in the walls. I've seen stuff like that before but this was a particularly bad hack job.

Rate my electrician out of 10

>>1702905
I'd be surprised if an electrician installed that box.

>>1702905
Well, he is a good plumber

>>1702905
Brought to you by the Home Depot.

SAFETY GUY HAS A DINNER BREAK
@
MACHINISTS GET WOUND ON THE SHAFT
@
WELDERS WIPE GAS BOTTLES WITH OILY RUG
@
CRANE OPERATOR WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE USING THE HOOK
@
CATS STARTED CROWING INTO TRANSFORMERS

>>1689749
>Live in the south
>The union is """Democrat"""
>The union president openly despises niggers and illegals
>Constantly talks about civil war in the case of gun seizures
>Still tells us to vote Democrat, which no one does
>He probably doesn't either

>nigger "mechanics" working on near new fuck off huge 30 tonne digger
>Take off can floor and battery coverings
>Some nigger drops a wrench and they fuck off to lunch
>It landed on the battery contacts, shorted the battery and turned the whole thing into a burnt out shell

Around blacks

>>1698671
Finer splicing isn't exactly dangerous, I used to do heap of fibre work and all I ever wore was some glasses in case a piece shot into my eye while I was stripping it.

>>1688017
Who fucked the economy so both parents working barely covers costs? Good one faggot

>>1694444
he can go back too

>>1702905
mexican/10

>>1703120
It was, he even fessed up instantly

>>1701431
neighbor of mine is a contractor, when i worked for him i asked the stupidest things he saw on the job
standard nail gun mishandling and drill bits into hands/thighs, but the best one was when he saw a guy cut off a finger with an non-powered hand saw

>>1703471
>cut off a finger with a non-powered hand saw

>>1703471
meth is one hell of a drug

>>1703481
i don't know, i can't explain it
could be fake but i don't have any reason to not laugh at it

>>1687171
sounds like BLowes

>>1702872
That's brutal.

>Working at dumpy factory in ghetto side of town.
>Just getting my foot in the trades door.
>Most of the higher-ups seem like crooks and make poor business decisions
>Losing money even though most of the employees are still in prison
>Company is forced to downsize from two buildings to one
>The night before everything is moved into the single building someone steals all the wiring out of the place
>There's a spot that looks like someone spilled a bucket of metal near a big metal rod
Clearly an inside job. The place had huge diameter 3-phase wiring to more than one mixer. I guess they figured to just arc the mains, but I'm surprise someone didn't die.

>>1703209
>Who fucked the economy so both parents working barely covers costs? Good one faggot

>>>/pol/
if you want to bitch about juden plz not here

>>1688034

what do you expect, we're /b/tards who either got jobs or bought a house

>>1691126
kid was right, the way workers comp works if there is no permanent damage and they cover your lost time there is no lawsuit possible against the employer.

flip side of that is the employer can't get out of it by proving they weren't at fault, unless they can prove the employee was fucking around intentionally or high on drugs (which is why so many places require a drug test after an accident)

>>1702905
Nothing wrong with an extra ground.

>>1700136
its called a rectory

>>1691754
>>The boss had a manager break the news and gave the husband the rest of the day off

please tell me the husband brought a gun in the next day and killed the driver and the boss

>>1692606
Lowe's hooked me up with some free scrap glass so i could fix my door for like $5, even cut the scrap glass to size for me.

that's the advantage of hanging out at the home improvement stores all the time while high on speed, you chat with everyone all the time and they hook you up.

>>1703135

>>1697817
but acrylic is universally shit

>>1698762
doing it wrong is often faster and easier

but you are massively overestimating the added cost of not doing it wrong, you can cut and re thread the existing pipe, throw on a threaded union, assemble the new shape to get where it needs to go and tighten up aforementioned threaded union.

>>1703568
Possibly parsonage. Depends where you are I think.

>>1688035
One common theme on 4chan is every board swears they have the biggest retards.

>>1699025
>If I haven't had direct line of sight over the power switch for more than thirty seconds,

you are supposed to LOTO the disconnect (breaker) not the fucking switch

never skip LOTO
never skip the contactless voltage detector

winning a lawsuit won't bring you back from the dead or un-burn off your cock

>>1700256

that's double retarded, flex seal costs almost as much for a pint as what a gallon of highly rubberized roof patch costs.

>>1701431
reciprocating saws are for demo work, they don't make clean and straight enough cuts for framing or finish or cabinetry.

>>1701437
>What about mail gloves?
will drag your whole hand into the mechanism so instead of losing half a finger you get to LARP as captain Hook.

no gloves or sleeves jewlery, rings or loose clothing of any kind around spinning equipment (drills, lathes, circular saws, table saws, milling machines)

>>1702905
the eternal plumbtrician strikes again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBjntrebxj8
The NTSB released their report about that bridge that pancaked some dudes
Highlights include what the fuck tier cracking in the concrete

>>1704152
Ah yes, the "All Female Engineering Team" bridge in Miami.

It's almost sad how quickly they memory-holed the early news articles from before the bridge was constructed how proud they were to have a Feminist All Female Engineer and Design Team to do the bridge.

Also, WTF was the thinking that a CONCRETE foot bridge was a good or needed idea?
Had they never heard of web girder steel beams?

>"Like, hey girls, instead of like, doing a bridge that's 15 tons of steel, let's like, do a bridge of 100 tons of concrete. It'll be totes cool!"

>>1704319

>>1704349

Thankfully haven't seen anything bad besides fucked up wiring that should have burned the house down years ago. Many fucked up panels and shitshows in industrial settings. Also the company I'm interviewing with had a young guy die cause he drilled into a natural gas line and exploded himself.

>>1704349
I'm assuming that's coolant & that Kia driver is one lucky motherfucker.

>>1704449
>that Kia driver is one lucky motherfucker.
The "Jesus Fish" sticker worked.

>>1704449
Looks more like ATF