/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1668118
That chimney camera you're talking about is one that gives a static 360 view or one that you can point and zoom? Because in the first case it's a completely wasted effort. The detail will be too small to see anything and half of your view will be obscured by your roof.
Also, I have cameras around my house, ama.

>>1668118
>DVR
waste of money, build a normal windows box and use it as dvr, it gives you a ton of expansion options

>>1668144
Do you have one? Because I do. Windows pc with same capabilities will be more expensive, power hungry and unstable.

>>1668169
I do, i use it for my 6 full had h264 streaming camers and it works great and i have tons of additional software running on it too like face recog and such
dvr is a one trick pony

>Make sure it's an NVR not DVR. A DVR will have bnc coax input, not cat6
>Be careful about too much wire being exposed outside. Network wire are fragile babies and need care
>Make sure to waterproof where the wire plugs into the camera, otherwise the Poe will short and camera=ded. If there are any outside cams you don't feel confident about, you can put a tube of silicone in a caulk gun and seal where the base of the cam touches the building
>If you set up remote view before mounting cams, you can use your phone to aim it during the mounting process rather than having to bring the ladder back later. The alternative to this is have a second person at the view screen and use walkie talkies or phone call
>you shouldn't need anything crazy like Poe boosters unless you have wires more than 300 feet or so. Just watch that they're not too close to high voltage, the electrical noise from that can interfere with the cam wires if they're in the same j channel

>>1668129 is right about that 360 cam on the chimney. Is there a pole or something you can put it on so the roof doesn't obstruct so much view?

>>1668144 the Poe is the thing that makes the recording unit a better option than a diy pc workstation. Otherwise you need a Poe switch, more expensive than a normal switch. If you get a 16 channel unit for one residential, I doubt you'll need more, and you won't need any switch

>>1668180
>Poe switch,
Most cameras have separate power connection so i imagine you can just use regular router

>>1668129
good point - I'll still have some hanging under the roof. This is just an additional "fun" one up top. The cameras can zoom in I think:

Arecont Vision AV12186DN 12 Megapixel H.264 180°

>>1668144
I got one of these: https://www.exacq.com/products/m/

basically for free with the cameras, so I dunno if I"ll keep it or what. thoughts on this kind of hardware vs PC?

>>1668180
Thanks for all this info.

> Is there a pole or something you can put it on so the roof doesn't obstruct so much view?

Originally these came on 20 foot poles... I was thinking of having them go up like 10-15 feet higher than the house when I wanted to peek around - but I think that is way too much work for now. Got me thinking about FOV now though, which is important. Shit I'm not even sure what I'm hoping to see from up there.

I'll have 2 of these on each side of the house, facing the street. just under the eaves. I don't really need this shit - it's just more a fun project.

man that chimney has me thinking - I'll bet I could launch a drone out of that fucker too.

Any thoughts on the camera housing with that metal cap? I'm just looking for fast/cheap and a MPV to check it out.

>poe
It didn't occur to me I'd need a POE switch if I ditch the exacq box. Lord knows what kind of software is on that, or what a license costs - I'm sure its more than I want to pay though.

Any thoughts based on the hardware I just described? Thes guys see IR right? do I need like IR emmiters or something pumping out IR waves ?

I hadn't thought about face tracking. thats a neat idea.

any thoughts on concealing this thing? moving it up/down is probably too much work when I could just mask/unmask it by rotating a plexiglass hemisphere around it or something.

correction I have these:

Arecont Vision SurroundVideo Series 20MP Outdoor Omni-Directional Dome Camera with 4 Sensors

>>1668144
>very normie
>>1668177
>hurr durrr diy your own facial recog
>>1668180
>POE boosters lmao
>>1668190
>Bwhahahhhahaaha ok use a router
>>1668358
>>poe
>It didn't occur to me I'd need a POE switch if I ditch the exacq box. Lord knows what kind of software is on that, or what a license costs - I'm sure its more than I want to pay though.
It blows me away when people dismiss hundreds of hours of skilled time to do what would cost them 2 hours of working at their dayjob.
>Thes guys see IR right? do I need like IR emmiters or something pumping out IR waves ?
Make that thousands of hours


ITT:idiots who give advice about shit they know nothing about.

>>1668118
thats a nice set up is it to catch niggers at work?

>>1668358
If you went the PC route, the software would be an extra hassle to set up because you're reinventing the wheel. There's already viewing software on the NVR. If you have it already, use it!

Just for kicks, let's think through some more "fun" we'd be having if we went the pc route.

Not having Poe from the central unit and powering each cam from the aux power input like pc guy is describing means you need some other device bringing 12dc or 24ac power (check camera requirements) to each cam. Option A is the big bitch in pic related, and bring a second wire to each camera from the big bitch. Option B is however many little bitches, each taking up a wall plug in your house, each with wires that have to reach the cam somehow, probably with splices, ugly holes in drywall, and ugly wires running up the corners of drywall.

A Poe switch isn't that complicated, it's just an Ethernet switch that can power Poe devices.

>>1668378
>Poe boosters lmao
Yes? And?
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-POE-24-12W-G-Injector-Black/dp/B01DW99IPS/ref=asc_df_B01DW99IPS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309833041189&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1334082408640860474&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007448&hvtargid=pla-521460365489&psc=1

Stop larping and give advice if you know so much

>>1668118
Forgot to mention when you program go for high video quality and low frame rate. Like 10 or under fps. High frame rate just takes up that much more space on your hard drive, so the video has to overwrite itself sooner and you can't look back as far. With 4-8 cams like you have, you can easily get over a month of playback on 2tb depending on video quality, frame rate, # of cams, etc

>>1668425
>stop larping
How bout mentioning only standard Poe is 48vdc. And that his fictional cameras may be nonstandard, or that your ps cabinet works only if op could read. Or that diy dvr/security software uses a cloud server for external access so at home routing isn't needed, or compilers, because you'd need to diy a phone app too along with a server to make it semi useful. How bout using a router is a terrible idea because those cameras are not meant to sit on a normie LAN most of the time and it would need a special config depending on the cameras. Or that 300 feet is not a hard limit. And that those passive boosters aren't worth shit if you're pulling good current and it can make many cameras bootloop, so you should bench these retarded ideas with full cable lengths before mounting. That you only need 100mb/camera, which is used on 2 of the 4 pairs in the cable (hint fucking hint). That Poe blocks to fanout the pairs and add your own voltage exist. Or my favorite,
>>1668432
Failing to mention to OP that modern day security boxes come with motion sensing, which vastly cuts down on HDD usage, and that they all have cyclic buffers, email, external dry contact support, home automation shit etc, if he would just RTFM before buying instead of enjoying this circlejerk of a thread here so he could focus on his project instead of enjoying all this male attention like a stupid thot.
>stop larping
Likewise pal.


Heres some advice: stop giving advice you know nothing about. Just tell op the truth, diy security is not for normies and he should just hit fucking Costco and buy a turnkey package. Plug, and fucking play, fully featured and mobile ready. Leave more time for larping like a faggot.

>>1668465
Jesus Christ, I hope you do commercial installs. You're too much of a douche for service, and you're making a simple residential install needlessly complicated/playing contrarian on standard shit and nitpicking ballpark estimates just to show that you're booksmart

I attained a DVR with built in software for cheap from someone who upgraded. The cameras are all h264/1080 all thrown into bundle all for $80. They kept their wire so as not to rerun it. I found 50ft of power/vid/sound wire for about $10 on Amazon, picked up one for each camera.

The drv software is hastlefree, dunno why anyone would build a pc for this purpose. It's great for people at front door, packages etc

>>1668521
>booksmart
No they don't teach normie shit like this at school, but you'd know if you ever went. I actually do this shit for a living, and I'm definately in "service" albeit not commercial.

Fucking with something like this is a huge waste of time. Just buy a kit and wire it up, don't poison it with amazon shit unless one know it fucking works. It's not something one wishes to discover after one has pulled fucking cable. PC's are shit too. Jesus Chris, I hope you've done this before.

This guy gets it
>>1668551

>>1668378
>It blows me away when people dismiss hundreds of hours of skilled time to do what would cost them 2 hours of working at their dayjob.

I don't understand. are you saying I'm cheap, or that I'd rather waste hundreds of hours to do it myself when I could buy it for 2 hours worth of pay?

Aren't software licenses like a few grand a year?

>>1668432
thanks good tip. this has a 1TB drive in it - hope there isn't any proprietary shit and I can just drop in something else.

>bench these retarded ideas with full cable lengths before mounting.
Thanks good idea there

> if he would just RTFM before buying instead of enjoying this circlejerk of a thread here so he could focus on his project instead of enjoying all this male attention like a stupid thot.

you must be hell to work with lol. Good point about RTFM - I came across some used security cameras and sort of impulse bought them. If they don't work out I can flip for 2x what I paid, so I'm not too worried about it. I've got a set up, was going to play with it, and while doing so am looking for advice. Seems like a good plan to me, and I do appreciate all the attention - it's a community, and it's good to get together and talk about stuff we all like. And I can tell you want it too, because you use what we call "negative attention" - I have a toddler and it is so interesting to see how you can spot these behaviors clearly once you learn about them.

>RTFM
>Just buy a kit and wire it up

so which is it? I bought a kit, and I'm wiring it up. you have any real advice to offer here?

>>1668654
He doesn't lol he just wants to show off his big boy knowledge to compensate for either his atrocious looking dick or atrocious looking wirework. 90% of the stuff he said in his temper tantrum rant is moot for a small project like this, but correct to consider for a college campus size install with hundreds of cams on a network.

He did mention motion detection, which you can do if you want, RTFM about it, it can make searching through playback a lot easier, but either way the frame rate will help with storage space

>>1668654
Here is the setup i use at home and it worked fine for couple of years now:
3x IP camera which outputs 4MP video stream in H.264
A standard wifi router (the cameras have wifi too, but i use cable since the wifi signal proved to be finnicky).
I use $5 chink POE switch since my router doesn't support POE, but you can buy ones that do if you want.
That way your the cameras get their power over the network cable and you don't need to run a separate power cable. You can also use simple POE splitters and injectors (to power the cameras over network cable) but you will only get up to 100mbit speeds over the cable because this method uses 2 wire pairs for data and 2 for power.
Modern IP cameras and POE enabled routers and dvrs support the POE over data lines where it sends both data and power over the single data lines, so you get all 4 pairs for data and can get your standard gigabit speeds.
I use the former solution since it is much cheaper as i don't have to buy new hardware and my cameras don't need the gigabit speeds anyway.

For the serverside I use an old HTPC box with windows 10 installed on it and blue iris software to manage the cameras (costs only $60 and supports up to 64 cameras, well worth the money in my opinion, it has TONS of options, but you can pirate it too)

It works absolutely beautifully so far, I had no problems at all so far and since i reused a lot of my existing hardware it wasn't very expensive in the end as well so that is a big plus

Don't listen to that one idiot who says you should buy some shitty kit from a supermarket, or overpay a company to do it, with even basic networking knowledge you can set it up no problem

>>1668664
good to know. yeah I use motion detection on my cams I set up when I leave home for a while.

cable questions.... I got a fuckton of these with the security stuff. I think they are temp fuses? maybe for batteries? I'm assuming the other end would to into an "alarm" input.

I've contacted the company in germany that makes these, but haven't had any luck getting the specs or use.

The other ethernet cables have these pins premade. That seems cool. but... what is it called when its done like that? I have literally 200 more of these things than I need, and would be nice to sell some off - but it seems like a pretty specific requirement to have. Where do the pins designed to go - on the camera and or the box, or both?

This company also did some sort of solar gear stuff - so maybe the battery fuses make sense in that context...

>>1668118
>make mailbox out of metal
>fill with armstrong powder (in hidden compartment)
>profit?

>>1668673
thanks man, very much what I was looking for. I have an i5 box I picked up from liquidation that I was gonna use before I came across the exacqvision box.

I'm not sure I get what you are saying about the POE and line speed. right now I've got ethernet out from the box, and in to the camera cluster. you are saying this is a better set up b/c the power and data are on same line.

If I move to my own server though, what hardware would I need - a POE switch/router - does that handle the power needs too?

how do you do remote access / monitoring - blue iris? I'm fine paying $60 for software ( or more if needed ) I just don't want to fall down the well of $5000 licenses for corporate security shite.

>>1668674
yep here we go: 1x 300CM Remote temperature sensor line For Tracer A MPPT Solar Charge Controller Charge Controller Tracer A Series PJW

looks like this... now if I could just sort out the difference between a 7 and $70 dollar one...

>>1668674
so would this be called "RJ45 male to 3 pin terminal block" or something?

>>1668654
>>RTFM
>>Just buy a kit and wire it up
>so which is it? I bought a kit, and I'm wiring it up. you have any real advice to offer here?

Its both. Especially if it's going to be installed with non standard shit. But it's how you determine if it's the right fit for you before purchase.

> you use what we call "negative attention"
This board uses "trolling". It's all over this thread. You must be new here.
>you must be hell to work with lol.
Its how I earn an average wage. But then, I don't fail either.

>>1668664
>He doesn't lol he just wants to show off his big boy knowledge to compensate for either his atrocious looking dick or atrocious looking wirework. 90% of the stuff he said in his temper tantrum rant is moot for a small project like this, but correct to consider for a college campus size install with hundreds of cams on a network.

I'm not the one suggesting POE boosters not knowing the voltages, big boy. Nor do I have a penis or a workmanship complex as you obviously do and feel the need to advertise. Your assumptions about what I do are hilariously misplaced, as alot your knowledge and job planning seems to be. Like the motion thing. You don't actually have or own one of these DVR units do ya? It sure don't sound like it the more I read your drivel. Besides, it was your incompetent (yet polite) rants that made me reply. 2/10 internetz for you.

>>1668894
low SNR post