/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1647317
Worked there for 2 and a half years in high school and college. If you avoid their cheapest products it's actually pretty good

>>1647317
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MP3aA5PWwbg
Menards makes me think of harborfrieght and ace hardware combined.

>>1647337
One just opened up here and that's exactly what I thought while looking through the newspaper ad. It looks like a bigger Harbor Freight that is also trying to be a little bit like Walmart too.

>>1647317
I kinda miss that place. I only have Home Depot and Lowe’s around here (well there is Ace and a bunch of Harbor Freights). Sears is pretty much dead now, Orchard Hardware came, it sucked, and it left. My dad would always go to Menards because Homie Depot was for Mexicans and Lowe’s was for housewives.

Fuck, I also had a Sears Hardware store for a few years. That was when Sears was going strong and Craftsman was US-Made and Lowe’s had yet to move into the Midwest. That was a great store because it was literally 4 blocks from the house I grew up in and it was like the hardware department of a Sears store combined with a Lowe’s. They had a lumber and garden area outside and everything. I got my first tool chest from that place.

Its a big box hardware store. Its exactly the same as lowes or home depot with some of the name brands and the layout of the store being different. Prove me wrong.

>>1647431
Menard's lumber yards are much more serious than Home Depot or Lowe's. They sell a shit ton of prebuilt trusses in the midwest and every Menards in my area has 2-3 times the lumber selection of Lowe's or Home Depot. Home Depot kicks the shit out of Menards or Lowe's tool brand selection. Menards has also been pushing grocery sections now.

I like it because it's the closest to me. They don't have as great of a selection as the other two, but they still got a better selection than the gay local hardware stores. I swear the local hardware stores are even closer, but everytime I go there they're either sold out or just don't have whatever I want.

That said, the people who work at Menards are the dumbest of the dumb as far as hardware stores go (saying quite a bit seeing how people who work at hardware stores in general are pretty dumb). Several times the tards at Menards screwed up cutting something for me because they literally didn't know how to read a tape measure. Not only are they dumb, but they're ruder than usual for some reason. They don't stock shelves for shit either, don't even bother with their hardware department, everything is out of place or missing there.

>>1647431
Menards is VASTLY superior to Home Depot. Especially in terms of inventory selection and sales.

>>1647585

You sure about that? The one near me generally sucks compared to home depot. Menards usually has most common type things, but if anything is specialty, then I don't even bother trying there any more and go straight to home depot.

My menards has a big grocery section too....or, junk food section rather.

>>1647585
home depot is legit best in business for consumer shit. you shut your fucking mouth.

I like Menards over the other 2 bigbox places for:
>better in stock selection of windows and doors
>plastering and stucco products sold in store, unlike the other guys
>better selection of drywall, good luck getting 5/8" type X blueboard at Orange/Blue but Menards has it
>lumberyard that's like a real lumberyard, not as good as Carter's, 84 or the local small shop, but leaps better than the other guys
>the grocery where I can load up on snacks for the worksite, like 4 lbs. bags of salt roasted almonds for $6

Did it deserve the swift death?

>tfw OSH was the goddamn Trader Joe’s of hardware stores
It had absolutely nothing you need, but tons of crap that your wife might like. I think I went there maybe half a dozen times in the year between building the brand new store and subsequently shutting it down, and all but one time I had to go to Ace-Home-Depot-Lowe’s immediately after to get the item I went for. I don’t understand how the place was 5x the size of the Ace across the street but had less home improvement stuff within its walls. The one time I went there and actually spent money was the one time I wanted a goofy hand painted Mexican flower pot for my mom.

>>1647571
For whatever reason Menards has a better selection of bits, blades, and other tool parts than home despot or blowes... but they all seem to have their own speciality... absolutely love the Lowe’s is for housewives line though... that nails it.

>>1647636
84 is the best lumber yard anywhere near here. My local stocks lvl's out to 40' lengths. 1.75 x 11.5 is $5.75.

Canadian Tire is superior at all these shitty mutt companies.

>>1647700
Never liked the service at canadian tire because there is seldom anyone around to ask where shit is. Same with home hardware I find.
Not that it's a deal breaker, canadian tire often has what I need.

>>1647706
You're not wrong, Crappy tire service is zoomer tier.

>>1647571
Hrmm.

What size trusses you mean. Like cuck shed sized?

I dont have anywhere flat to build

Menards website is absolute shit. The search function is garbage.

>>1647591
Are you joking?
I can't tell

If you're in general construction with a specialty in any of these, Menards is the best place to buy:
Concrete work
Framing
Siding
Roofing
Plumbing
Electrical
Drywall
Insulation
Painting
Finish carpentry
Cabinetry
Landscaping

They own a bunch of land in Alaska which is why their lumber is the cheapest

They carry on brands (for cucks) but their power comes from carrying comparable off brands and every specialty item you can find.

I'm in 4 of those trades and you can't even find the proper tools to do most of them anywhere outside of specialty suppliers

Yes, stuff is harder to find in store and in their lumber yards, but that's because they carry 3x the items that Blowes and Hoe Depot do.

With their expanding Auto and grocery sections, they'll be the largest domestic retail chain soon enough

If you're a normie, Menards might not be for you, but if you're a true DIYer, shopping anywhere else is leaving money on the table.

>>1647792
They keep updating it. It's actually usable now.
>>1647636
This guy knows what's up

Money talks, and Menards makes you more money

>>1647790
https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/trusses-i-joists-engineered-lumber/roof-trusses/40-post-frame-truss-4-12-pitch-35/1877602/p-1444448740294-c-5658.htm?tid=-6992078221404019819&ipos=2

Largest truss they stock is 40' but they will build to order either from their catalog or complete custom one off.

>>1647807

Nope. At least not my local Menards, you can't find specialty anything. It's pretty much a one size fits all store, if I need anything specialty, or even slightly professional I have to go to the other two. You're right about the grocery section, if you want to call it that, the one at my local store gets bigger everytime I go there, it's about the size of a small grocery store now. It's not groceries though, just rows of junk food, chips, and candy, however.

>>1647808

I just used it 5 minutes ago, it sucks. If i type in 8x8x16 what the hell do you think I'm looking for? It's not lumber, which is the only results it gives me.

>>1647792
Lowe’s (mobile at least) is mediocre compared to the other big brands. Orchard Hardware was awful. Menard’s didn’t seem much worse than Lowe’s. Home Depot was by far the best.

Sears is nearly unusable on mobile. You need the app, but then they have good prices and fast store pickup (if you can get past the “marketplace” bullshit and find products they actually sell). Advance Auto is like my favorite of all the websites I use because I’m always ordering online for store pickup, and Advance has the best “In Stock” status deal where you can easily pull up the 10 closest stores and see which ones carry that. HD is pretty good with this too because you can choose “Closest Store” or “Nearby Stores” so you can see stock from the nearest 5 stores at a time, not just one.

>>1647827

Home depot probably is the best. My only problem with them is you look something up and it'll tell you, "We have 54 of these in stock!"

Then you go to the store and ask, and the guys working there just blink at you and say they don't have them, in fact they never even heard of it.

Anymore, I always just order shit online from them, I almost always get a message saying, "Umm...weird thing....your order should have been immediately ready, but looks like we'll have to order it" so I don't waste the trip going down there. Been burned too many times by that.

>>1647825
What industry are you in and why don't you ask for help when you can't find things?

>>1647825
Lrn2srch n00b

They updated the search engine to bring up lumber since the _x_x_ format didnt bring up lumber at all before

Why don't you use the name of what you're looking for instead of measurements?

>>1647881
>Why don't you use the name of what you're looking for instead of measurements?

Because the name usually doesn't bring up whatever I want either...

>>1647882
sounds like you're fucked then. you should prob just give up and go shop somewhere else.

>>1647641
You can buy a housewife at Lowes?

>>1647944

I dunno about a wife but, my local Lowes bathroom became like a gay sex Stonehenge for a while. Every time I went there would be weird dudes giving me looks.

Then another time i went on craiglist m4m ads for educational purposes, and I noticed there were tons of ads for the local lowes for dudes wanting to meet up and fuck in the bathrooms and storage sheds and all sorts of parts of this store.

Apparently meeting up at hardware stores to fuck is a big thing in the homo community. So I'm sure you can find a dude if you're flexible, or one that'll at least act like a chick.

>>1647431
They've got an entire grocery section with everything a he-man construction monkey could ask for

>>1647317
Fag gloryholes central

>>1647317
WHO MAKES THEIR TOOLS

Wish they would come back

>>1648003
Their house brand used to be tool shop which was Harbor Freight level. Then they switched to Masterforce which when I worked there the power tools were made by Hitachi. Other than those they carry Bosch, Hitachi, Bostitch, Ideal, Rothenberger, Stanley, and Wen off the top of my head. Some of the Masterforce hand tools are surprisingly decent especially for the price.

>>1648003
House brands like that use all different OE’s. Craftsman was the same when it was Sears. Ratchets were made by one company, screwdrivers another, pliers from a third company.

>>1648017
Isn’t the Tool Shop-Masterforce thing like the Husky-HDX at Home Depot? HDX is the cheap Chinesium, Husky is the stuff with a warranty.

I had these Masterforce tools for a bit from my dad. Didn’t use the right angle driver much but the drill met all my expectations. TBQHWY, they felt a bit cheaper than my newer brushless Ridgid, maybe like better Ryobi or Porter Cable, somewhere in that heavy duty homeowner tier or light duty professional. I read somewhere that early Masterforce was made by Makita, but I think Hitachi sounds more believable and I couldn’t find much in common comparing them to Makita. I was watching the prices to see if I could scoop a sawzall and another battery for a good deal but the best was like 11% rebate or 20% off clearance on old models and you might be better off getting a name brand at those prices.

I think those tools are in Jamaica now.

>>1647830
Walmart has fucked up my orders every single time I tried to do store pickup for something in stock. I’m pretty sure it’s because of all the nogs stealing and the lazy Haitians working there don’t give a fuck about inventory. Also I’m guessing some of the times they had the item in stock but lazy nogs working there couldn’t find it immediately so they gave up and put “out of stock”.

Problem is Walmart is super annoying trying to cancel the order. A couple months back I ordered a printer and a pack of paper for the girl from the store closest to her. They tell me the printer is out of stock and they’re ordering it but the paper is ready. So I had to “request cancellation” and the printer gets cancelled the next day but the paper is sitting there for days ready for pickup, and the charge for the entire thing was still on my card until maybe 5 days later I told her to pick up the paper while she was at the store anyway. As soon as they told me the printer was out of stock the first day, I ordered one from based Target instead and got a better deal on a nicer one that they had in stock and ready in like an hour. When Walmart does have the item in stock, they take like half a day to get your order together, and I think after 6pm they tell you to pick it up at noon the next day.

The one time Home Depot didn’t have something that was supposed to be in stock, they kicked out my whole order within an hour and I was able to order it all from the next closest store. That was at maybe 8pm too, they work quick with their online orders.

>>1648063

Walmart's online works great for things shipped to my house, but the one time I chose "pickup in store" it was one fuckup after another. Never again.

Their Masterforce brand makes really good hand tools for the price IMO - comparable to Kobalt but usually a couple bucks cheaper. The Menards by me also has great random endcap sales - picked up a set 2 of Irwin channellocks for 10 bucks and a Stanley hacksaw for 5 the other day. I always check them before the others but I live within 5 miles of all three.

>>1647317
It's ok

>>1648063

I worked for walmart for a little while, they used to do these yearly audits where they had to go over the store and count all the inventory, and do the math on all the stuff that got shipped there, and try to figure out where everything went.

They'd usually end up with somewhere in the mid six figures worth of stuff that just totally disappeared.

>>1647637
Lowe's bought this company out.

SAVE BIG MONEY AT MY NARDS!!!!

>>1648096
That's called "yearly inventory" and every store does that.

>>1648096
See >>1648195

But most companies also somewhat regularly check and adjust counts on items as they’re pricing or doing resets.

>>1648155
They bought them out and then expanded it like crazy. They built like half a dozen new stores in my immediate area, often it was brand new construction and not just taking over an existing retail space. A year after they all opened they had their going out of business sale.

I worked at a Manards for 3 years and made it into management before I bailed.
It's Walmart for rednecks. The cheapest shit is absolute dogshit, the expensive stuff is only moderate dogshit. The return policy is pretty great though.
As an organization, it's a fucking abusive shitshow. They hire about 95% internally for management and you don't get promoted without drinking the flavoraid.
Every hardware department is a cluster fuck since it's a black hole of money, and that means the department management doesn't get shit for their bonuses which make up 20+% of their pay. As such nobody decent stays in hardware longer than 3 months.
The lumber yard is pretty decent if you don't mind it being a unsafe cluster fuck staffed by 18yos with more muscle than brains.
The staff are frequently pissy because they are on their 2nd or 3rd close open of the week, and leaving at 11:30-12:30 and being back on the clock at 7am doesn't make for pleasant staff.

>>1647585
>t. Menards team member

>>1648300
This guy knows what's up. I had a friend who's father was a Menards store manager for years. He eventually left because they wanted to move him to the home office. The friend, and a few others I knew, also worked there. I heard all about the shit they'd do.

>>1648300
As a former employee I don't normally defend Menard's or some of their business practices but I can tell exactly the type of employee you were there by you're exaggerated bitching. The Menards family are legendary ass holes but they visit each store at most once a year although the general office does stop a few more times.

They have a program trying to hire managers from outside. If you have a bachelor's degree they pay you to do on the job training then give you a department or store management position.

Most of the hardware department when I was there had been around 5+ years.

The only time you work past 30 minutes after closing is in preparation for Black Friday. The only people that work even close to open-close are 1st assistant managers on their solo weekends.

The yard is full of apes though you're right about that.

I worked at a well performing store so my experience may have been different but I've had worse jobs.

>>1647807
t. retard

>>1648326
no u

>>1648322
To be fair, what yard worker isn't an ape.

>>1648322
>>1648300
I heard that about Menards, the owners are complete cocksuckers and some of that trickles down to the stores.

I heard Home Depot trains employees the best but doesn’t do enough to keep them, and Lowe’s treats employees the best but doesn’t train for shit, so the career path is to start at Home Depot and then take a promotion at Lowe’s. The Lowe’s I’m at weekly for work seems to have pretty good consistency with employees, I actually see the same faces for more than 3 months, and that is exceptional for retail (especially in the area I live in).

Overall the big box hardware stores seem to be some of the best if you’re willing to be a slave to retail. The drug stores and dollar stores are the worst. Club stores are good, big name grocery stores are decent if you get in the right department, walmart is garbage but it can’t be difficult to make it up the chain within a couple years.

>tfw the Walgreens district manager tried to give me a business card a few months ago and I politely declined
Walgreens, CVS, Dollar General, and lots of corporate gas stations are just terrible unless you get the busiest store in the district or you get into corporate management and out of the stores. Wawa store manager I know is talking about going to work for McLane driving trucks because sleeping in a truck is better than dealing with that place.

>>1647431
You are partly correct exvept Menards manufactures in the usa, their own line of doors, windows, fencing, trusses, to name few

>>1648010
>logo is a pentagon

>>1647317
Menards is a good place to shop but not to work. They are probably one of the only places that actually has everything you need at a good price for most home projects. That being said, I have a coworker who use to be second in command at Menards and he has tons of horror stories about how the corp treats its employees like garbage and overworks them.

>>1647337
>Ace
Everyone in the US is probably give or take 100 feet from an Ace store. Great hard to find individual hardware like screws, nuts, washers. Everything else is at least double normal cost.

>Menards
It's like a Walmart grocery, bargin bin tools, and actual lumber yard combined. They're driving prices low to try to put the hurt on Lowes/HD right now. They're cool, but they suck.

>>1648574
>Everyone in the US is probably give or take 100 feet from an Ace store. Great hard to find individual hardware like screws, nuts, washers. Everything else is at least double normal cost.

True, ace hardware's actual hardware section is fucking awesome. Sometimes i just walk through them to see what all they have. Fuckers even have brushes for electrical motors for some reason.

All the big stores hardware stores are pathetic compared to theirs.

of course Ace sucks for just about everything else, cheap overpriced tools, don't stock most everything else you're looking for.

>>1648577
>brushes
Based on what I saw working at an Ace one summer in high school, they have motor brushes for the same reason they have everything else - 20% of their stock turns over monthly, and the other 80% has slowly accumulated over 60+ years and so they still have 1 to 3 of literally ANYTHING you can think of, no matter how obsolete. It's both their best and their most frustrating characteristic.
Next time you're in an Ace, try to count how many different decades' worth of packaging logos you can find.

>>1647382
>It looks like a bigger Harbor Freight that is also trying to be a little bit like Walmart too
You 'murricans never heard of OBI, Baumax or Praktiker before?

>>1648322
It sounds like you have a functional store. The Bloomington IN one isn't a functional store, and the Indy ones don't seem to be much better.
All my experience with the external management hiring has been a complete failure. Of the 5 we had, 2 quit, 2 got fired and 1 got demoted. In under 6 months for all of em.
The only store in our area with a decent hardware Dept is terre haute, the rest were equally shit. I imagine withe a experienced crew it could work fine.
For the working late, there was a 6 month period where we weren't even allowed to ask to leave till a hour after close. Usually we would leave 1h15m to 1h25m after. If we didn't have things that needed to be done in our department we had to help hardware fix themselves. As a result I usually scheduled my part timers to leave 30min before close with the understanding that I expected them not to fuck me, or I would return the favor.

My tone is just how I sound when I'm bitching. I am still bitter about some things like cluster that was converting deliveries into order pick up and delivery. I went 37 days without a day off because they didn't think to hire more than 3 full timers and 2 part timers for that hellscape. 9hr shifts were my easy days. Also our GM would demote or fire department management if he found out you had applied for another job. So guess who quit with no notice. If I lost my job early I wouldn't have been able to buy my house.

In summary: the building materials/millwork/order pick up and delivery remodel was a nightmare and being one of the test stores was hell. I hated our weekly visits from the general office, it made the GMs extra petty.

>>1648557
Most of their shit is direct from China.

>>1648917
>Also our GM would demote or fire department management if he found out you had applied for another job.
This is a hallmark of Menards. If they get wind of you trying to get a different job they fuck you over, or straight up fire you.

>>1648956
what shitty bosses anon

>>1648917
I used to work at the West Madison, Wisconsin store which at the time was the top store in the chain so things were pretty good. Also helps that the store was in an affluent area. Our GM was an alright guy but became a bigger and bigger dick as the store kept expanding, he ended up getting bumped all the way from GM to full time hardware at another store for putting hands on someone during an argument. The only stretch that we had frequent general office visits was during our big expansion/remodel when they took over the entire adjacent Circuit City building. That was SS occupation level stress, write ups were flying. They wrote me up for pointing a customer to wall coverings on my way to break instead of walking them there on my own time and filling out a time adjustment form.

I’ve been working at Menards for over a year and three front end managers have already quit due to stress. In general, they don’t hire any replacements for people that leave if they can get away with it. Great selection at our Menards though, although it’s one of the huge two floor ones.

Only god damn place around me with dimensional maple and 1/4" round brass rod.

>>1648974
>>1648975
No unions ?

>>1648984
Retail unions are asinine

>>1648993
no strike then ?

>>1648999
>Single 17 year old employee is disciplined once in 3 years
>60+ people go on strike over it

No, no strike then

>>1648974
If you were in a Madison store, that explains a lot. That close to home office you get good or get gone.

>>1648096
>pay staff poverty wages
>forces staff to go cap in hand to government for stamps and gibs
>wonders where half their stock disappeared to
They surely can't be this retarded?

>>1648558
No, that's a polygon.

>>1649007
sorry m8 .. NOT taking mick .
In Bong same .

>>1648017
I don't like their ratchets because the selector lever is backwards from all other ratchets I've used or own.

>>1649070
Yeah, but that's largely their own fault for gaining power and then fighting management instead of working with them to change the culture of employment for the better. German unions were always used as examples of good unions that helped improve companies. Whereas Bong unions just fought management and said "no" to everything. as if pissing off rich and powerful people and costing them money would be consequence free.

>>1649068
That is an irregular pentagon, a type of polygon.

>>1647579
Fucking this. Menards is cheaper because they pay their retard employees shit compared to Home Depot. They are the absolute epitome of a moron.

>>1649085
For me, only a "regular" pentagon counts as a pentagon. I don't recognise irregular """"pentagons"""" as anything other than polygons. Same with squares, only "regular" squares count, irregular """"squares"""" are rectangles (which are also polygons).

>>1649088
There is no such thing as an irregular square, a square is a quadrangle with equal length sides and 90 degree corners.

>>1649090
Yeah, that was kinda my point, hence the """"s

stop crying
can you as employers say NO ..
If not are managers broken let go = class lawsuit .. ok

WAKE UP ok

Get Help .. or be drone shit ..
Cancer is better ^

>>1648974
Top store in the district is always easy for management. Corporate people will look the other way when things are good. My current location is like that, of the 4 locations in our area, we make up like half of the volume and revenue so we can get away with not following every stupid policy 100%. But the flip side of that coin, if our numbers start dropping, they are the hardest on us. When you’re doing 50% of the district’s revenue and your numbers drop 10% in a period or quarter, that makes the whole district drop by 5% and you have people that manage a good portion of the country coming and asking questions.

>>1649018
I purposely stay in an area as far away from the office as possible. When big managers come and want to take tours of the field, they stay far away from me. I might have to drive nearly an hour to get to the plant, but I don’t get micromanaged by people 6 levels above my head as long as there aren’t any major issues.

>>1649093
But the point you actually made is that the average 5th graders has a better understanding of basic geometry than you do.

>>1648300
>Walmart for rednecks
isn't that just walmart

>>1647317
Its the best big box hardware store.

>>1648740
>OBI
just a cheap kraut knockoff of a home depot

>>1648974
>West Madison, Wisconsin store
I always thought that store was top notch, their various departments have more than your average store. I like the building too.

But I know several people who worked at various stores such as Hudson, St. Croix Falls, and my sister even worked Eau Claire, the only thing I can corroborate is that the owners are dicks. My sister claimed John Menard would walk through the store a few times a year and he'd fire people on the spot for petty bullshit.

>>1649134
>isn't that just walmart
Most of the walmarts in the areas i've lived were more poor white trash than redneck. There is a distinction, not much of one, but some.

>>1649141
Went there today for the first time. (Taylor, MI store).

>Website doesn't say where items are located like Lowe's and Home Depot's sites do
>No fucking rhyme or reason to the layout
>Dog food next to mattresses next to plumbing
>Finally find lumber
>Surprisingly good selection of woods (better than Lowe's or Home Depot)
>No rhyme or reason to the wood display
>Poplar, ash, maple, aspen pine, oak, different grade of poplar, walnut then red oak
>Out of stock of the maple I wanted despite the website saying they had 4 in stock
>Select a different, more expensive board because I liked the grain
>Wondering around, trying to find the 1/4" x 36" brass round I need
>No fucking clue where to find it
>Every time I see an employee, they notice me and dart away
>Finally, near the cereal (lol, wut,) I corner an employee and he begrudgingly looks up where the 1/4" x 36" brass round is.
"Just on the other side of the store, behind the frozen foods and before the caulk aisle, near the trash cans."

Perkele.

>>1647571
I get all my wood from Menard's.
Lowe's stores their wood on those uneven steel trusses. Home Depot stores their wood on end in the back warehouse.

>>1649251
Souless

The Menard's near me kills people at random.
Makes shopping their a real adventure.

https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/09/06/wife-sues-menards-for-100000000-after-husband-crushed-to-death-by-falling-pallet/

>>1649128
You don't get to decide what I call things, comrade.

>>1649274
Never trust the website. The counts are only updated once a day and if what the in-store counts are off, so will the site's counts. Also the UI and search engine are trash. The only "reliable" way to get an accurate idea of whats in stock is to call the department it's stocked in.
>t. employee

>>1649274

One time I went there and asked where the batteries were.

>Employee sighs and says, "By the laundry detergent".
>Umm...and where's that?
>She rolls her eyes at me, and says, "Ok...come on!" and leads me to it like I'm a kid.

Fucking bitch, you could have just pointed the way or something....and not rolled your eyes at me and been a cunt about it.

Another time I walk in, ask a guy where the screws are.

>He looks at me like I'm a moron, sighs and says, "It's called the hardware section."
>I proceed to blow up on him, maybe more than I should have because I was still pissed off about the other batteries bitch from a few weeks ago. Inform him I know exactly what it's called, but I like to just be specific because if i fucking ask "where's the hardware section" he's going to ask me what I need, and then I'm going to have to tell him screws anyway. I ended it all with, "So just point me to the fucking hardware asshole!"

The hardware turns out, is behind frozen foods. Makes sense.

I really don't like talking to hardware store employees in the first place, but menards is the fucking worst.

>>1649686
>in-store counts are off

But pretty much like every single store in existence, the counts are always off.

>>1649780
My point exactly. Calling is the only way to be sure if you are in a pickle. Most of the time we'll actually check the shelf to see how much is there.

>>1649784

If I'm not in a hurry, I always just put an online order in, then I go there whenever the fuck they say it comes in (most of the time even though they say it's in stock, it becomes apparent it really isn't and it takes 3 days for the order to complete)

>>1647947
Kek this happened in the Lowe's I worked at.

Number written on the stall, scrub it off, same number different spot in different stall, scrub it off, etc

Somebody trolled the janitors and wrote the number in every stall after it hadn't been rewritten for a few days

Lolz had by all keen enough to know what was going on

>>1649678
Just trying to help you not be a moron, a futile endeavor it would seem.

>>1647326
> Worked there for 2 and a half years
I worked there for 3 years in wall coverings department

>>1647317
Sounds like a place where men are prone to testicular injuries

>Takes a 2x4 in the groin
>It has a 12" nail through the end
>Cry out in excruciating pain
ME NARDS!!!!!

>>1649779
>>1648566
Hence why they never know anything about hardware when asked

>>1649271
The Walmart near my work has car light bulbs locked up behind glass like the ammo. Took me 45min of wandering around the store trying to find somebody with a key so I could buy a $3 bulb.

This Walmart isn’t white people.

Also I was at a Comcast call center today and right out front was a scene that made me laugh, luckily the people didn’t notice. I should’ve taken a pic. 4 women standing in a circle talking, dark as the rubber on your car tires, loud as a jumbo jet taking off, and the four of them easily weighed over half a tonne combined. These ratchet ass bitches and their weaves were only like in their 30s and I don’t understand how you can get so fat in so little time and how people can live like that. Wouldn’t you be concerned if your body was no longer the shape of a human body, but rather that puffy blue girl from Willy Wonka?

I’m going to call some inspectors to come check the integrity of the concrete those 4 were standing on. If the weight didn’t damage it, the vibrations from “NAHHH GURRLL NOO SHE DI’INT!” likely stressed the structure.

Menards reminds me of rural king. Maybe a notch higher in terms of class. That being said I prefer shopping there to Lowe’s.

>>1649271
>redneck vs white trash distinction
This is true. Some rednecks have big money. Examples include owning boats, walls of high end guns and bows, atvs trucks and shit. It's almost like it's a competition to have the most expensive and sophisticated crap for whichever outdoors activity.

>>1647947
>educational purposes
Sure thing, bud. Our Lowe's kept the storage sheds padlocked to keep out the hobos after they found one camping in them. Filled up an entire garbage can with all the junk he had in there.

>>1648322
Clopening's not "working from the store opening to the store closing" it's "getting scheduled a closing shift, then getting scheduled an opening shift the next day". I worked at a place that did the same thing.

>>1647579
Absolutely agree. They do have a good inventory. But the employees are full on idiots. Plus harder than hell to find. I tried to hail a worker once and they made eye contact with me and walked away. Fuck their rebates.

>>1647947
This is the type of informative post that keeps me coming back to /diy/.
Now I know why there are so many homos at my local Lowes. Stupid me just thought the neighborhood was gentrifying.

>>1647395
>Craftsman was US-Made
This bullshit again. It's STILL US-made you mong. It's increasingly cheaply made, and some of it is utter shit, but it's still US-made.

>>1652014
No it's not

>>1652014
Wut? Have you bought any Craftsman since the turn of the millennium?

They outsourced almost everything to China, had the Craftsman Pro brand around for a few years with mostly US-made stuff, and now since Stanley Black & Decker bought up the brand, they’re starting to bring stuff.

The only Craftsman stuff that remained US-made seemed to be little shit they couldn’t find a cheap Chinese OE to manufacture and paying minimal US labor costs was cheaper than shipping it from Asia. I think the socket rails and some other small bits remained US-made but nothing that they could find cheaper from another manufacturer in Asia.

>>1652057
come to think of it, I've never seen any of the classic acetate handled screwdrivers without USA stamped on it. Were those ever chinese?

>>1652057
The sweetheart line of chisels are made in england, the planes are partially made in england with the main casting being made in mexico.

>>1652014
Craftsman has had a lot of chinese stuff since the 70s. In like 2009 they finally shifted all hand tools (the last of their USA made stuff) to be chinese made.
Stanley bought them out a year or two ago and started bringing back select stuff as USA made, like some toolboxes and shit. Not their handtools though, still chinese.

Everything that I have seen out of Nu-Craftsman is overpriced or mediocre.

>>1652477
Their bit drivers were, so it wouldnt be a stretch that they may have made the regular ones there tool. I havent seen it either, but ive seen Stanley and Crescent ones that looked identical that were chinese made.

good prices for freelance contractors.
Got the lumber yard in back after you get you tools to pickout choice cuts.

Got to love that fresh sawdust smell from steam treated wood.

>>1652477
I don’t think the newest ones are US-made. Maybe that was one of the later things to move overseas.

>>1652519
I always post my Craftsman Pro hack saw. It’s made in Sweden. It’s a rebranded Bahco, which is the exact same thing as the Snappy saw from their catalog.

>>1647706
This, and when you do ask you get a blank stare 50% of the time. Princess Auto is pretty interesting but they're few and far between.

>>1650790
Wally world did that a lot to me. Law says 8 hours between shifts and that's all I would get plus an hour to and an hour from.

Much better than orange and blue hardware stores. I'm in Indiana this week and will be going in to pick up a bunch of mats (uhmw plastic sheet) that my locals don't have.

>>1655279
So 10hrs? That’s not bad. That’s DOT regs too, if you work til 8pm one night, you can’t be on the clock until 6am the next morning if you’re operating a commercial vehicle. It sucks because in no way does it leave you enough time to get a full night’s sleep when you factor in commutes and showers and trying to eat.