/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Most electric lawn tools feel anemic to me.
The leaf blower and hedge trimmer are the only ones I respect.
I switched from gasoline mower and string trimmer and hated it. So I switched back.
When the technology improves, I'll give it another shot.

>>1615409
I’m waiting until after the sex change, then I’m going full electric.

>>1615412
The leaf blower is the only cordless yard tool that I could deal with I think. And mostly because I want it to blow leaves out of the garage which is like 15 seconds of use and a pain in the ass to gas up and prime and start the blower. Ridgid had a mini blower and vac combo but I they’re asking way too much. For <$200 I wound jump on it, vacuum would be way easier in the car than hauling the big shop vac around.

My gas trimmer came with this little pentagon shaped driver bit so you can start the thing with a drill instead of yanking on the cord. More companies should use that feature, and also I should’ve tried to not lose that 5-sided bit because now it’s useless.

>>1615409
>Anyone who made the transition from gas powered to electric tools, are you happy with the change?
Yes. I have the Ryobi 40V mower, blower, trimmer, and chainsaw. The 5 Ah battery will do about 6k to 7k sq ft of grass on a single charge depending on the height and moisture. Everything is just more pleasant to use: no gas, oil, fumes, less noise. I tell people if you have things that work, keep them, but if you need replacements, seriously consider it.

>>1615424
>no gas, oil, fumes
Ahh yes I forget how easy it is to get yeast infections when vaginas are exposed to fumes from 50:1 mix.

>>1615409
I have Ego brand for all yard tools. Excellent.

>>1615409
I'm a landscaper so most electric tools will not work for me. However one thing that has caught my attention is a battery chainsaw. I am scared to death of chainsaws because there are so many ways things can get fucked up in a very short amount of time. I've watched videos and read reviews and most are positive. They are much lighter and surprisingly comparable to gas in terms of power ( I can't confirm that myself, I only held a display model). Also instant torque and easier to brake. The largest stuff I handle is 10-20 maples/pine trees and that's only occasionally, it's the bushes and brush and bending over and tripping on overgrowth is what I worry about. Having a light workhorse that's not gonna crap out in the middle of something sure sounds handy but idk.

>>1615440
Oh also I can keep it in the cap because there's no gas so undesirables are less likely to hawk it. That's also a bonus with electric tools.

>>1615424
>not buying the 100ah weenie mobile

Because those batteries cost $900 as opposed to $100. You'll find that out in 2 years or less.

>>1615432

Battery life on those aren't worth it at all.

>>1615409
I got the DeWalt 20v string trimmer with a 5Ah battery earlier this year. I had a corded electric trimmer before though, not gas. I'm liking it so far. Has plenty of power and I have never drained the battery. I use it for maybe 45-60 minutes at a time. I went electric because of the lower maintenance. I am too lazy to properly take care of something with a gas engine that sits idle for half the year. I might pick up the DeWalt 20v mower once my gas mower finally craps out because I don't really have that much grass to mow.

>>1615456
>maintenance
Nigger, do you know how often I drain my yard tools? Try to run them low on gas towards the end, they only hold like 10oz. Dump that shit on the side of the garage if there’s only a splash left when your done. Maybe you need new fuel lines after 3 winters like that... $5. Add another $3 for some carb cleaner for good measure. And stick a brand new carb on there for $20 after 5-10 years.

I have pic related sitting in my garage for some reason because my neighbor wanted it gone when he was moving. Thought maybe there was a good motor in there, but I have a feeling it’s worse than a good cordless drill and I already have a couple of those motors sitting around.

>>1615427
Anything to make a chore more pleasant is a positive in my book.
>>1615441
>>not buying the 100ah weenie mobile
I have a quarter acre lot, and I’d rather park my cars in the garage.
>Because those batteries cost $900 as opposed to $100. You'll find that out in 2 years or less.
When every tool comes with a battery, it is easy to spread the wear across them. However, I am not even worried about it? How many charge cycles do you get on your phone before the battery is toast? 500? 1000? I have to mow the lawn from late March until mid October. It might be 30-40 times this year. That will be more than a decade of service for something that’s going to spend 99% of its life on a smart charge controller.

Gas tools are fine. Like I said earlier, if you have gas tools that work, there is no reason to go to batteries. However, if you have to buy something, they are worth a look. I have been very happy.

>>1615412
>>1615422
I have the ryobi 22" battery trimmer. With the 4ah battery the thing is actually pretty awesome, but I wouldn't trust much else, desu. I have serious concerns about anything heavy duty on electric or battery. Couldn't see myself with a non-gas mower, trimmer, or chain saw.

I keep seeing people using battery powered leaf blowers. Has got to be the saddest thing ever.

>>1615427
>letting your insecurities control you this much

>>1615409
That green underpowered whip machine rips right through the 5Ah battery but not all the weeds.

Got the Lynxx 40 V String trimmer last year. Works perfectly, can weed my whole yard several times between charges and it has a fairly good edging mechanism.
I've used gas powered weeders and definitely appreciate not vibrating the shit out of my hands, it's light and basically no maintenance so far.

I also use the electric (plug in thou) pole saw which is a steal for like 60? bux. Would consider getting the other 40v tools but dont need a blower and mulch with my lawnmower.

>>1615627
Serious question, why would you pay so much for that 90-day warranty battery from HF? You gotta be able to get a Ryobi with a few years for less. Esp with how HF keeps changing brands, that Lynx is probably trash as soon as the battery starts going.

Those green plug in tools are solid though because they’re dirt cheap. I have been debating the pole chainsaw too since the $30 hedge trimmer was way better than I expected, but Home Depot had that Sun Joe brand on sale for the same price as HF for the pole saw all the time.

>>1615432
>>1615443
I got the Ego single battery lawn mower, Have to recharge it once to finish the whole lawn. Sometimes twice if I let it get out of control tall. I like the breaks in between to use the Ryobi trimmer while it charges for about 20 mins. Once snowblowers catch up, I'll be 100% gas free.

>>1615440
I have this pole chainsaw and a pole hedge trimmer, running with Makita batteries because that's what I already had.
It's definitely a weaker chainsaw than what you'd get from a proper handheld one, but it still works really well, and the battery longevity is surprisingly good (probably mostly due to intermittent use, as you spend a lot more time positioning and collecting branches than actually cutting). Also definitely far less spooky to use.
As an alternative I'd also recommend a cordless sawzall, you can get 10" blades for wood, with that it's not impossible to cut down trees up to 15", and they're really good for thinner stuff.

>>1615409
The motors are more than powerful enough,the problem is the gay ass battery chemistry and format. Had a black and Decker BMS burn out right after the warranty went out. Ruined the lithium cells. I'd rather have a short cable and some sort of large fanny pack NiMH battery than lithium. Bonus would be rebuilding them with AA batteries.

>>1616075
>buy a cheap product from a shit brand
>surprised when it turns out to be a shit product
>"it's the fault of the technology, not the manufacturer"

>>1615427
Landscaping equipment are greater polluters than most modern cars.

>>1615409
depends on how much you use them. I do routine maintenance around the house and lawn and they work fine for me. I have about 3 batteries I can use with a wide variety of ryobi tools. You can also buy bigger batteries if you need the longer lifespan. If anything I enjoy not having to deal with exhaust

I tried an electric trimmer, the only electric trimmer at the store (black&decker) was a gutless piece of shit, so I returned it and got a stihl.

If you have a tiny yard electric is the way to go..

literally no maintenance needed on the tools.
and if it takes you 15 minutes extra, oh well

If you have a huge lot. of course gas is the way to go. Wish I had a place big enough to warrant a riding mower


also don't get battery powered anything,, get a 100 foot cord and go to town

Work switched to electric forklifts and they're fucking dog shit for most things. Leaf blowers and whipper snippers are good electric though

>>1615422
>Home Depot

If you want to not pay retard level prices go on EBay. You can get the blower for 100 bones or less, and the vacuum for definitely less. Then buy batteries, and you’re g2g

>>1616333
The Home Depot prices will go to something reasonable eventually. It wasn’t that high before but for some reason that kit isn’t a real kit price, but rather the 4 things put together at full price, which is assuming like $80 for a 2.0 battery. The blower and vac are about $80ea if you buy them on their own.

I almost bought some batteries and the impact from eBay, but that kinda defeats the purpose of buying Ridgid since you can’t register them.

>>1616276
Hippie.

There’s nothing like ending a Saturday smelling like two stroke exhaust, grilled meat, and sex.

>>1616342
>There’s nothing like ending a Saturday smelling like two stroke exhaust, grilled meat, and sex.
What are you overcompensating for?

>>1616288
>get a 100 foot cord and go to town
Yep. I have a tiny corded electric mower and it's been great. I've since moved and my lawn is too big to mow comfortably with this thing now, but it's been nice never dealing with oil, gas, and starting. The cord can be occasionally annoying but it's basically like vacuuming your lawn, just gotta move the cord out of the way sometimes.

>>1616361
Not having a vagina

>>1615409
Except for the mower and chipper all my stuff is plug-in electric. Not a fan of batteries. I am considering a gas powered leaf blower but probably will stay with electric.

>>1615427
Dude, when you fuck up mowers as much as i do and have to work on the pieces of shit you can't beat wiring and bolts over getting douched with fluids

>>1615441
Move on over slowbois. I want one so bad I'm building a fucking 0 turn over winter

>>1615441
Building used laptop packs is easy.

>>1616368
I have one of the mowers but I attached a battery and an inverter to it to make it cordless.

i feel like electric is a 'go green' made in china meme with most items intentionally engineered to fail shortly in the future. now that i live in dystopia commiefornia with their 80 cents a kw/h 'green' energy, theres no fucking way ill ever voluntarily use electric shit. besides, gas shit you can fix for as long as you are willing to put up with the bullshit of finding the parts and getting dirty, with electric tools its usually 'lol sorry we used proprietary parts/batteries and we just dont sell that anymore please buy a completely new thing. remember, electric is guud for de planet xdddd'

>>1615409
Depends on the tool and use. Maintenance is almost 0. I have a bunch of them because I hate lawn chores and I just want shit to start 100% of the time.
I got a 40V blower and it was useless, I got an 80V blower and its much better. I actually use it all the time for light duty blower but still not close to actually doing a whole lawn of damp leaves.
I used to have that 18V trimmer in the OP and its also useless compared to gas in all but the lightest duty trimming.

>>1615409
I went all electric years ago. I hated keeping gas in the garage. All tools are low maintenance.

>>1616648
I would just add that I went corded electric. I still don't trust battery lawn tools for endurance.

This thing is a fucking beast with a 6 inch grinding wheel on it. I was underwhelmed with a 4 inch. Battery life is shit so I need to buy a few more packs.

>>1616649
Trying to run a lawn mower off Li-Ion has to take like everything those cells got too. Lithium won’t last nearly as long when you raping them every use.

Then again, I wonder about these power tool companies, if they really cared about consumers’ batteries lasting longer, they would probably offer chargers with fast and slow charge instead of trying to charge everything to 4.20V in under an hour every time.

>>1616368
>>1616528

>>1615774
Good to know. Thx

>I'd also recommend a cordless sawzall,

Oh yeah, been beating the shit out of my ryobi for a good year. Use it when I'm close to the house/dangerous stuff. Did a tree once with it, but never again, past 4 inches is bogs down.

>>1616506
you're building a zero turn? That's a lot of work bro. Or are you just making a zombie out of a few non working ones? Just a heads up, they're just as loud as a regular mower.

>>1616656
>Trying to run a lawn mower off Li-Ion has to take like everything those cells got too.
No it doesn’t. There is power to spare. The motor controller will attempt to maintain blade RPM by added current. Unless you are cutting grass that would stall a gas mower, the batteries will be fine. Any decent battery controller will have self preservation.

>>1615409
All of my hand tools are electric, but both the push and rider mowers are gas.

>>1616719
I’m not saying they’re going to fry themselves 2nd use, I’m saying they put the Li-Ion through it’s paces. I don’t think those power tool batteries (and the tools and chargers) are built for maximum lifetime. Cell phones are the same, they want the thing to have the best numbers when sold, they don’t really care a few months down the line. The tool companies want to sell you on their 45min charge times.

>>1616656
Electric lawn mowers should seriously use super capacitors instead of batteries.

>>1616368
>>1616670
Here it is in all of it's glory. It lasts my whole lawn taking 1.5 hours but it weighs 90 pounds at least.

>>1617166
What the fuck did you do here? 12V battery hooked up to 120V inverter?

>>1617174
Yeah. To top it off the inverter is modified sine wave.

>>1617183
How many watts is that inverter? That mower has to pull some juice.

>>1617184
Inverter is 800w 1600w peak. The mower is rated for up to 1500w but under normal use runs at around 700w . Makes a nice mobile power source.

>>1617188
You’re almost up there with paper roof anon.

>>1617166
>It lasts my whole lawn taking 1.5 hours but it weighs 90 pounds at least.

Jesus Christ I would have thrown the fucker out by now. I don't care how big your lawn is, if it's taking you more than an hour you're doing it wrong. This thing is lighter, cuts better, self propelled and will not bog down which will lessen it to 45 minutes.

I'll give you a tip though because I feel sorry for you:
1.the front end one notch lower to lessen the work on the blade and keep you from bogging down.
2. If you have a blower (that's hopefully not also electric) then whenever the mower starts bogging down then lift the deck up to let the clipping loose. It won't mulch proper, but you can just blow it over a distance and the grass won't thatch. A lot faster than walking like grampa with a sickly sounding mower and you'll look less like a jackass too. It sounds like I'm projecting, but I'm telling you this because I have a dumb cheap fuck Korean landlord next door who takes 2 hours to mow a 1/4 acre with a shitty old mulching mower.

>>1617166
Why wouldn't you just use a 12v motor?

>>1617225
I got a good mower but all the gaskets around the cuttings basket are gone. I cant think of any good readily available foam stuff to pack in there.

>tfw too white to nigger rig

>>1617233
>I got a good mower but all the gaskets around the cuttings basket are gone
>bagging the clippings

Oh you poor poor sod you.

>>1615422
Why do they have leaf blowers instead of leaf vacuums , all a blower does is just make it someone else problem, but with a leaf vacuum you could just collect them all then bury them to make compost.

>>1618429
I had a blower that you could reverse and put a big pipe onto the intake with a bag on the outlet. Worked ok, but it was easier just to blow them into my neighbor’s yard.

>>1617232
What companies make 12v yard tools? It’s the same reason why DeWalt did 60v on their big grinders instead of 20v... you can get the same power, but you have a lot more current going through the parts so the wiring and switches and all that need to be much more overbuilt.

Plus I’m assuming anon’s plug in 120v mower was cheaper than any of the 40v battery powered ones which come with a $200 battery.

>>1615440
Why are you walking with a running chainsaw?

>>1617232
I already had an inverter+battery sitting around so I slung them on and called it a day. I have been looking into motorizing a reel mower I have with a 36v or 48v DC scooter motor though.

>>1616342
>>1615427
>>1616444
>>1618487
>>1615413
>I’m waiting until after the sex change, then I’m going full electric.
I dunno man. With your obvious raging insecurities and endless need for validation I would say you’re ready now.

>>1617166
Fuckin kek anon. You truly are dee eye why.

>>1615409
i have a small lawn so a ryobi 21" 40v brushless lawn mower is perfect

>>1616656
>Then again, I wonder about these power tool companies, if they really cared about consumers’ batteries lasting longer
No, of course not. They care about profit, what do you think capitalism is, a self help group?

>>1618588
Yeah but when they offer a 3 year warranty on their batteries...

I’m sure they have accounting goys with something like a B10 and B50 time and they factor the charging and protection into all of that before they release shit with any kind of warranty.

>>1618663
>they assess how long their products will last before they offer a warranty
No shit Sherlock? Plus, a warranty isn't just a free give away, it promotes sales.

>>1618668
Has anybody here actually tried to warranty tool batteries though? Like if you’re getting 30% capacity compared to new, will they replace it? Or the thing has to be completely fuckered before the warranty expires?

I was curious about that too. You can give a 5Ah battery a 30min charge time, it might only be worth 3Ah after a couple dozen charge cycles, so what does the company do when your sawzall only runs 5min on the battery you paid $120 for a few months ago?

>>1616271
Most lithium cells have shit cycle life, people just gush over it because they are used to cheap lead acid batteries. Especially high rate, high temp applications like undersized weed whacker batteries. Even if the BMS didn't burn out it would quickly diminish. I prefer battery chemistries that don't need constant attention or regulation so they don't shit themselves at any moment.

>>1615440
I love my 12" electric chainsaw. It's amazing for light tree work and pruning.

>Bought Kobalt mower and tools
>Not enough battery life, battery died just out of warranty
>Bought Greenworks
>Reliability seems better but still not enough battery life
>Sell all this shit
>Buy a used 36 volt lead acid battery mower off craigslist with dead batteries
>Splice the connector to an XT60
>Connect a 36 volt eBike battery
>Mower now runs all day no problem

Supposedly EGO is the real deal but it's also at the high end price wise and I already had the ebike battery lying around

>>1615440

You can have a gas equivalent battery chainsaw but you're going to pay through the nose because of the battery mass these things need to reach that performance level for longer than a few minutes. The tech exists it's just not cheap

I have a running 60 year old gas mower I got for free from a junk pile, then I bought a used Scotts human powered reel mower, and recently bought a brand new Gardena battery power reel mower, and so far I'm really liking it.

But I'm still going to keep the gas mower for if/when the grass were to get too tall for the reel.

im returning the newer milwaukee jet blower tomorrow, exchanging for the ryobi 2 stroke hand held jet leaf blower.


the Milwaukee ($149) is plenty powerful but i only have older batteries and they are dead in minutes, new 12.0 batteries are like $250.

the 2 stroke ryobi has more CFM , runs for hours, and if you keep indoors will require no maintenance for years. the electric convince is so nice but the battery tech isnt there yet

I've used electric chainsaws before. Would recommend. Dont' remember what brand.

landscaper here. i use a cheap battery powered black and decker hedge trimmer. corded trimmers are annoying and regular gas trimmers get so damn heavy after using them all day. ive been using the same hedge trimmer with the same 2 batteries for about two years and they still work fine. still sharp as hell too. other than that, i wouldn’t use any other battery powered equipment

>>1620867
upgrade to some better brands than shit tier B&D with beefier batteries and motors and you might feel a little differently about battery powered outdoor equipment.

Just bought an EGO 56v trimmer.
I like it.

i got a battery powered push mower, pretty good
it is green and i hit a lot of stuff like sticks, branches, and concrete and stones, never sharpen blade either. cuts like a champ on won battery

>>1621031
>5 year warranty!
>3yrs on battery*
Fuck. At least that is a beefy battery and not some 2.0Ah 18v. That thing can’t be light though.

>$250 battery
>$350 if you want to mow a whole lawn on one charge
Fuck me, that 7.5Ah 56V battery looks fun if I could get my hands on it. That’s a lot of juice in that package, build me a jumper pack or spot welder or some high power hack job with it.

>>1616288
combine with a gas inverter generator and save shitloads on batteries when u cant access a plug. means less maintenance.

>>1615422
>also I should’ve tried to not lose that 5-sided bit because now it’s useless.

JB weld some bullshit in there

>>1621057
Meh, I could probably order one for a few bucks. I believe I jammed a hex or torx in there one day and got it to spin somewhat. Or I could pull the cord like a man.

I’ll buy the driver bit when my wife starts using the trimmer.

>>1621039
>i hit a lot of stuff like sticks, branches, and concrete and stones, never sharpen blade either. cuts like a champ
Sure thing, kid.

I've been using electric mowers and weed eaters for like 15 years. I use a cord. It's fine. Gasoline is stupid, messy, and temperamental. Always some goddamn thing breaking, and 3 guys aruging over too much choke, and whether you flooded it, and maybe its the spark plugs, blah blah blah.

Meanwhile I'm getting shit done.

Look if you landscape for a living - do what works. But if you live in a suburb or whatever, just get a goddamn electric. get em cheap, use a cord, and move on with your life.

>>1621071
it's true, i have a bunch of random concrete in my backyard for some reason and run over it constantly, blade looks godawful but until it stops working i'm going to keep using it

>>1618814
>>1619584
ya, I have a 12 incher and I've cut a cord of wood into fireplace length out of a solid tree up to 20" diameter on one charge 2x18v, 5.0 Ah batteries. I think it will run for about 45 mins to an hour of actual cutting time on one charge. Also felled 60' pine trees and a few bad leaning willows. It cuts fast enough to get to the hinge without the tree wacking you in the face and with a sharp blade you can cut out on the tip no problem (unlike some plug-in electric saws).

>45 year old Jonsered brushcutter, basically never been serviced until I inherited it from my grandparents, has seen heavy abuse by them and me.
>Starts every fucking time, never ever had a problem with it, heavy as fuck because it's built like a tank.

>2 year old Ryobi, trigger assembly and safety is glitchy as fuck and only works when it wants to, battery lasts 15 minutes tops, the head that keeps the wire regularly wears out and has to be replaced like why the fuck would they make that out of plastic instead of metal, flimsy as fuck because plastic everything.

Really the only electrical versions of any tool I prefer is the hedge trimmer.

>>1620867
>has good experience with battery tool
>refuses to try other battery tools

>>1621591
>t. retard

>>1618496
at what point did I say I was walking with a running one?
>>1621142
thx

I have cordless versions of most of my gas tools. Basically cordless are for that quick 10 min job and gas is for everything else. Cordless simply can't run long enough for anything but fast jobs.

>>1616783

I would love to buy an ego mower, but the battery bullshit is too much. The mower already lasts about 45 minutes, and li-ion batteries lose about half their potential within two to three years, so you're going to have to purchase another battery within four years.

Ego's new 9.0ah battery is probably going to cost $500 and the mower itself is $500. You can get a really good Toro for $300 and have it for a decade.

>>1617166
This is honestly the best way to go. Any part of that can easily be replaced. A even cheaper and lighter battery solution is homemade lead batteries. Fumed silica and battery acid, you can make a gel battery. A tightly packed round cell like hawker batteries. PVC pipe etc. High capacity, high cycle life. Use pure lead and form them in acid in a jar like a mason jar. Discharge fully and apply a fumed silica acid paste, charge them. When they finally die, you melt them down and start over. Separators are on McMaster Carr

>>1615412
I bought a cheap £40 electric mower that cuts better than the petrol ones used by the guys that used to go door to door cutting grass, which kept getting tangled and cutting out because my garden's a knotted overgrown bitch kek
Had mine for years, never even sharpened it once and still works perfectly no matter how long the grass gets. Very worth it imho

>>1615409
I’ve been using an electric leaf blower for some time and I’m quite happy with it

>>1617225
>I don't care how big your lawn is, if it's taking you more than an hour you're doing it wrong.

The shit one reads on /diy/.

>>1622848
Sure thing, bro.

Can i get electric lawn equipment not made in china? Tired of getting chinked.

>>1618496
uhh? to use it, retard

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>>1615409
Ryobi should make cordless viabrators for all the bitches that love their "environmentally friendly" electric yard tools

>>1622929
Give it another year or two. Maybe 2021 when Trump is set in his second term and tells China to kys.

I just got an EGO mower, and I'm pretty happy with it. It's light, the self-propulsion is fast, and it cut through my overgrown yard just fine. The only downside is that it costs $500, but I figure it's worth it to be able to casually mow my lawn after work and not smell like gas afterward.

>>1622938
I guess I'll just do a propane conversion. Fuel in my area is of exceptionally low quality. I live in the US but in an economically depressed and corrupt area. Most gas stations buy the cheapest bottom tank gas. Famous for crud, even cars modern and old have issues.

>>1622922
100% fact

>>1615409
I have a milwaukee 16 inch chainsaw, string trimmer, hedge trimmer, and blower and they all perform exceptionally when maintaining my 3 acre property. The initial purchase price is a little higher compared to gas powered units, but the complete lack of mainteacne and not having to deal with shitty Chinese carburetors makes it completely worth it.

>>1615615
>I keep seeing people using battery powered leaf blowers. Has got to be the saddest thing ever.

Leaf blowers are peak boomer. Make a ton of fucking noise, blow your shit into the public street, so it's someone else's problem, and your lawn/driveway looks superior for 1 day so you can feel good about yourself. Don't forget to waste fuel / rare metals doing it! And they are suckers for upgrading every few years because marketing changed the color, and increased the number on the side.

>>1615409
I use both. Gas powered lawmover, and trimmer for Heavy duty, Electric for lighter duty. Electric trimmer is easier on your spine, and more easily controllable. It's a Ryobi BTW, though probably an older model than the one in the pic.
Ryobi's lawnmover is good for cutting smaller areas and hard to get places, though it's blades aren't really iup to the standards of gas driven movers. Lighter weight means it's easier to use in slopes.

>>1620878
Yeah I’ve been looking into other battery powered hedge trimmers but I’ve been waiting for the black and decker to die first. I bought it when I was poor and just never upgraded
>>1621591
I’ve tried a Milwaukee string trimmer and a makita leaf blower. Both were severely underpowered for professional use.

>>1615440
I have the Milwaukee chainsaw for occasional demo or whatever (contractor here). It's a nice piece of gear.

smells better

I got this Kobalt pole saw 2 weeks ago. It cuts the same, or just barely slower than the 2 stroke Echo pole saw I had. The battery life is good I would say. I have a 12'x5' flat bed trailer and by the time I had cut enough to completely fill it I had 2/4 bars. I think you could fill a 20ft trailer on a single battery. I hauled off 5 trailer loads and didn't have to wait on the battery any. I didn't time the recharge rate, but I would throw it on the charger as soon as I got done cutting then load all my branches, and by the time I got back from the dump it would be full which is about a 45 min round trip. I cut down some pretty big branches for an 8" chain. I did about 4 or 5 6" branches and it didn't lose power any going through those. I don't think you can outwork a single battery factoring in trailer load and dump times, if you were chipping or burning your cuts then you could be in for a wait. It's still so new so I can't comment on longtivity, but a pole saw is one of those things you only bust out every year or 2 so I would think the tool would last forever, it'll be the battery that gives up.

>>1615409
Depends on what you need to do. If I had a lot of ground to cover, electric would suck. Just a bit around the house? Electric is fine, plenty powerful.

>>1623741
Is that 24V or is it their big 40V or whatever battery?

If that’s on a 24V, that’s not so bad. I like how Milwaukee is running all their big shit on the same batteries, and DeWalt you might need a Flexvolt but you can still run it on your drill. One battery sucks when doing work, you gotta have two if you’re doing a project like mowing and edging and blowing, and that sucks being $500 deep in batteries alone for 2 or 3 tools.

>>1622937
Imagine getting this bent out of shape about people that don't want to poison the world

>>1618800
Don't know what era your Li batts were from, but the current generation last plenty.. Supposedly if you monitor the charge levels based on how long they will be stored before you use them they can last hundreds of thousands of cycles. Even the standard Makita and Milwaukee chargers have circuitry that charges the battery in a way most appropriate to it's conditions, meaning chemically and temperature-wise. Hell the Milwaukee batteries have bluetooth where you can give them names, monitor your usage to try and keep it balanced, etc..
TL;DR: I have a couple 4 year old 2x18V Makita yard tools - weed-wacker, blower and saw and they work just as well as the day I bought them, two 5 Ah batteries included. I bought 2 new batteries and a double charger a year ago for low money, and the originals last just as long and provide just as much power as the new set. Also the leaf blower only lasts 20 minutes on high (60 minutes on low) but is as powerful as the gas powered backpack leaf blowers I've used.

>>1623880
It's the 40v. The battery is pretty big.

>>1622985
My Nigga, I have all of those except the hedge trimmer and I agree they all work great. I will say that the blower will drain a battery really quick, but the other two seem great. Really super convenient and nice.

I used to have a battery hedge trimmer that worked well for me but I only ever used it for trimming my sallow bushes. The only electric mower I ever used made me feel like I was being punished for something. Even with a sharpened blade it cut like shit. Wish Honda stuck with the metal decks though

>>1617225

>I don't care how big your lawn is, if it's taking you more than an hour you're doing it wrong

Yard baby detected. I do use a near copy of the mower you posted and even with it at full speed rubbed down with cheetah blood while I pushed it extra fast after railing a bunch of speed, my grass would still take at least 2 hours. 3+ if I fully bag and dump the clipping in my compost pile.

>>1618821

That sounds pretty cool.

>>1621776

This is my main grief with battery tools. Except for that quick blow job (lol) I'm going to be using any yard tool for 20 min or more around my house.

>>1623729

Good point

>>1622866
No U. The only people that take more than an hour to mow a lawn are women and fat tards on little 28 inch rear engine craftsman gokarts (those people are fucking hilarious to watch). That or if you have larger than a 1/2 acre and skimped on the size of your mower (AKA you're doing it wrong).

>>1624618

>Yard baby detected. I do use a near copy of the mower you posted and even with it at full speed rubbed down with cheetah blood while I pushed it extra fast after railing a bunch of speed, my grass would still take at least 2 hours. 3+ if I fully bag and dump the clipping in my compost pile.

That post was directed at the electric mower anon, it will cut down the time for HIM. Not you. Your problem is that you bought a mower sized for small lots. Ffs it's a 20 inch deck, maybe if you got a bigger mower (like you should already have) with some more horsepower, you'd be able to cut the grass faster.

>3+ if I fully bag and dump the clipping in my compost pile.

Stop robbing your grass of nutrients.

>>1621079
>But if you live in a suburb or whatever, just get a goddamn electric. get em cheap, use a cord, and move on with your life.

But eventually the cord prevents you from moving on....

>>1624802

Your comments are valid and I must have misread. I only have an acre of grass, and if it was flat, and not festooned by odd shaped gardens apple trees and 100ft of elevation change, I would be using something with a larger deck.

>Stop robbing your grass of nutrients

My yard gets tons of rain and I reintroduce a sand/compost mix during the major growing season (plus it is great for my strawberry patch). If I leave even a small amount of mulch during mowing I will be overwhelmed by moss in a short time. Do not own a thatcher, don't want to buy one. Or rent one for that matter. PNW lawn is interesting.

>>1624217
>Don't want to poison the world with gas engines
>Poison it with destructive lithium mining and heavy metals

>>1624895
>festooned

nice

I don't get all the comments on gas tool maintenance. Use that bottled premix for your trimmer/2strokes, and run your lawnmower dry before storing for the winter. Change the oil in spring. how hard is that?
IMO the effort to maintain your gas equipment is less than the extra effort spent using less effective electric tools all year. New subdivision, neighbor ran out and bought brand new ryobi mower/trimmer, used them once, then hired a service to cut the grass.
And when your gas mower/trimmer breaks, you can actually fix it instead of throwing it in the trash and buying a new one.

>>1625362
Because the majority of people are too stupid/lazy to run it dry at the end of the year and don’t realize that a carb and fuel line kit from Amazon is only like $15.

>tfw that’s one thing I hate to admit that MrCummy gave good advice on
I spent more than that on carb cleaner, fuel lines, and a generic fuel bulb set from Ace and have 3 extra bulbs I will never use.

>>1615774
Milwaukee Hackzall is a good one handed sawzall.

>>1616342
>being this annoying
gay sex you mean fag

>>1615440
For fellow assassins, this would make a great surprise brutal execution tool to murder your shithead in-laws with when they finally push you over the edge. Nothing like a cartel style execution to put your mind at-ease.

>>1615427
Huh?

Handheld tools like weed wackers = absolutely electric. I swear to god, most of my time trying to trim weeds was spent trying to get the god damn engine to start. Then god forbid it overheats and stalls itself out, dealt with that too.

>>1615409
>husqvarna automower
have about an acre of lawns - this thing does 90% of it. I go around once every week or two to get the areas that are inaccessible to it (narrow grass paths less than 3' wide) and to do the edge trim next to the fence. This is the best purchase I have ever done for the house. The lawn looks like a golf course every single day and I don't have to do jack shit. Think of all the hours saved in just one summer.

>>1615424
Too bad I have about 350,000 square feet of grass to mow.
I'd only have to charge it 50 times.

It takes me 6-8 hours with a 54" zero turn, depending on the last time I mowed and if I sharpened the blades or not.
I honestly wish electric had come farther, but its not where I need it to be yet.

I got N electric weed eater I like it a lot more than my gas powered ones.

I got drunk and almost bought one of these lawn roombas. Not this model but what ever. My yard is too rough for one.

>>1626729
How do you keep it in the yard?

>>1626729
I guess you don't live around niggers and stuff, I would be scared of it getting stolen.

>>1615409
Everything has tradeoffs. Gas powered is the strongest and no cords to unroll trip over and cut. But if you store them in the off season with any gas in them you will have a job cleaning the carb in the spring. Electric plug-in is fairly strong, but you have that extension cord to deal with. Battery tools are the most convenient, no cord just grab and go, but they are the weakest (getting better tho) and when the charge runs out you sit on your ass looking at a charger blink for 30-45 minutes. I've got a few of each type.

>>1622990
I agree leaf blowers are the wrong tool 95% of the time, and blowing shit in the street is a dick move, but how do you figure using one "wastes rare metals"?

>>1624906
Underrated post

>>1626743
>350k sq. ft. of lawn
>8 hours to mow it
Bruh, you are doing it so wrong

>>1626704
The only reason to use battery powered yard tools is because 2-stroke mix can cause cervical cancer. Do you have a cervix?

>>1626743
>A square mile of lawn

We call that a "field' and you're supposed to use a much bigger mower. That or till it and plant shit other than grass. Even with a 54" it should take you less time than that.

>>1627129
>>1627265
Its not just some flat field.
Its the terraced side of a hill and there are saplings and old growth trees.
8 hours is the high end if I haven't mowed it in a couple months.
Its the size of about 7 stadium football fields for reference.

>>1615432
>>1615443
>>1615634

I got the Ego trimmer, it's as powerful as my previous gas trimmer and far less pain in the ass. Battery life is about 45 minutes continuous, or about an hour with off-and-on normal use (stop for a few seconds here and there to move to the next patch).
I got really, really tired of gas trimmers over the years requiring so damn much maintenance and not wanting to start after a month of sitting up, even with fuel drained and stored well. The Ego is a shit ton better than any of the corded electrics or the one cordless B&D electric I've owned, too. It seems actually built for tackling serious jobs, while other more lightly built gas or electric models are meant for the guy who has a golf course lawn and wants to fight three dandelions.

Another EGO user here - mower, trimmer, chainsaw and backpack blower. I've got the older mower, slightly smaller deck but runs longer because it's not self-propelled.

None are as powerful as the gas versions, but all are lightweight, quiet, and almost maintenance free. I've had a couple batteries and a charger die; most replaced under warranty.

Overall... more expensive up front than gas, and not as powerful, but not having to wear cans, light enough to lift easily, no gas/maintenance... worth it in my opinion.

>>1625362
didn't say it was hard.
Said I didn't have to do it.

>>1628243
>>1628275
You talk about costs but there is something you forget to mention- health care costs for people with vaginas tends to be much higher compared to those with a penis. If you don’t have good insurance, the batteries and vagina care are definitely going to cost more than gas and some oil.

>>1626721
don’t buy shit brands. my echos and stihls always start on 2-3 pulls. 1 if it’s already hot

>>1627065
not him but there’s an underground line that you have to have installed. Like shock collars for dogs. The mower senses it and doesn’t go past it or something

>>1628280
Oh shit got’em
Fucking GOT HIM
Btfo omg
How do you do it namefag?

>mfw just bought a husq 455 and the 28cc trimmer

>>1628224
so you're a retard on a farm who hasn't planted anything?

>>1627110
All I do to maintain my mower is pour a cap of fuel stabilizer in the gas can before I fill it up for the first mow of the year, cap in the mower tank if I didn't run it dry last year, and I check to see if the oil is as black as death. Just a few extra pulls for the first use of the year and it runs fine. Had it for 5 years now.

>>1615409
I was given a nearly brand new electric Kobalt weed-eater for free and I use it more than my Stihl. But I only use it for like 20 minutes. The convenience is nice.

>>1628280
>this level of insecurity
I didn’t know it existed

>>1628692
If you run his numbers it's 8 acres, which is exactly too small to farm and too big to mow. If he's mowing that weekly as a yard, he's a fool.

>>1615409
>you use electric for convenience and moderate amount of work
>you use battery powered for short-stent specialist tools
>you use gas for "way out there" stuff i.e. no power for 1000 feet.

>so there is the cost of equipment
>the batteries and cords are akin to maintenance (daily) and oil.
>electricity is akin to fuel.

electrical to motor is a estimate average price reduction is 80%. air tools to electric are a comparison for hand tools.

daily and regular maintenance items are about 80% increase with the same approximate life span.

supply consumption rate is about 1000% decrease to fuel on cost per watt-hour

to keep a battery powered weed wacker running all day (8 hrs) you need about 6-4 if you cycle properly and have one fast charger or an arrey, or about 500f-700ft of cable. vs a gas tank and gas plus additives.

>battery $20*6+ charger $25*2+ electricity ~$17.82 per "work day"
total: $100 initial, $130/350+ periodic, $17.82 daily

or corded

total: $100 initial, $200+ periodic, $17.82 daily

VS gas

total: $70 initial, almost no periodic, $7 daily (one gallon of gas plus 2-Cycle oil)

so yes and no. it depends on grade, quality and other factors.

I would recommend buying Gas for things that are going to be used far from civilization, need a lot of torque, or used for short and heavy stents.

I would use electric for convenience, long light stents, and when "sufficient" power is better than enough.

tools that are better as gas:

>chains saws (not for trimming)
>concrete cut-off saws
>use as a generator
>lawn mowers

things I would use electric:
>small hand tools
>trimmers (all kinds)
>power saws for wood and light metals
>grinders and small cut-off saws
>leaf blower
>shop tool's motors

there are some tools that are more of an issue with availability rather then superiority (they are on the line):

>weed wacker
>pressure washers
>pumps (small)
>

>yes, I do use petrol tools, how did you know?

>>1630077
because you smell like a hobo on meth

>>1615432
Not trying to shill for Ego, but I've been happy with the 56V trimmer I bought some time ago. Original battery had some issue with defective cells, but I called them and gave them the serial and they just sent me a new battery, no questions asked. Good service.

It does what I need it to, basic trimming where the mower can't get and some edging. I have a corner lot with a lot of sidewalk so I usually split up the edging because the battery won't last. I find it to be much more reliable and less of a pain then my old gas trimmer, but then again I found that thing in the trash and it was already beat to piss.

Are Troy Bilt mowers good? HD has one for ~260 with a Honda motor. Alternatively they have a Toro for 300.

>>1630640
I have a weed whacker from them and had a snow blower from em for some years, never had any complaints. Works as good, if not better than any other typical homeowner brand. My stuff didn’t have a Honda motor either so that sounds like a straight deal.

>>1630640
Buy the Honda one for $379. Do not, repeat, do not buy any Toro. Made in Mexico junk

>>1616641
>Maintenance is almost 0.

>Have stihl fs220
>like 40 years old by now
>has seen 0 maintenance, not even fuel gets drained over winter
>starts the first 5 Pulls with choke cold
i dont know why people have so much problems
with gas

got an mower like 8 years ago.

probably paid for itself in gas now.

have a smallish yard so it does the job but if it was bigger I would be disappointed

>>1631049
Shit, too late I got the troy bilt. It has a Honda motor at least

>>1630640
>with a Honda motor
anything with a Honda motor is better than anything with any other motor

>>1631295
Fernando Alonso might disagree with you

has anyone done a /diy/ battery backpack?

>>1631776
I keep dreaming of spot welding hundreds of 18650s together to make a giant fire hazard.

Anon above turned his 120v cheap shit lawnmower into a battery powered model with a car battery and inverter. I imagine the same could be done in a backpack and you could easily mobilize those cheap Sun Joe or HF Portland tools. The $35 hedge trimmer is actually good and the pole saw and chainsaw both have very good reviews too. And I think the biggest upside is that the tools are super light and a battery backpack would make it much more comfortable using the pole saw above your head.

Oh, just thought of another thing, pic related with the power banks instead of the lead acid battery. That inverter is too small, but that little jumper pack is 66Wh and like the size of a big smartphone. Parallel up 3 or 4 of those, 1000W inverter, and then run a ~3ft extension cord off the backpack and you could swap between the chainsaw and pole saw and hedge trimmer so fast.

>>1615617
He does have a point though. Don't forget to dilate.

>>1616283
> I enjoy not having to deal with exhaust
OMG me too. I hated the exhaust soo much because it would make me have the WORST vaginal burning and itching too.

>>1618429
I always blow shit onto the lawn before I cut and pull it into the bag when I mow.

That's crony capitalism bullshit. There needs to be a law against manufactured obsolescence.

>>1631951
You can still buy the old batteries. What’s the problem? Of course they won’t work on the newer tools, but don’t you want the latest and greatest sir?

>>1631941
>>1631944
>stops being a name faggot so he can project his insecurities some more
Whew lad, when is this going to stop?

>>1615409
that shit in your pic is fucking heavy. i don't care if it is more powerful. you need to be a fucking power lifter to start it while holding it. and it is noisy as fuck. a typical redneck's toy. i am happy with the electric one. it does the job.

>>1626743
>350,000 square feet of grass to mow.
you sound like it is a good thing. i'd fucking kill myself.

>>1617166
>Here it is in all of it's glory. It lasts my whole lawn taking 1.5 hours but it weighs 90 pounds at least.

this guy wins the thread

>>1615440
Just be aware that chainsaw chaps won't save you because electric chainsaws are clutchless and will torque right through your leg, chap and all

>>1632287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZQZBALVTc
Not the case, maybe with cheap chinese chaps but that goes for any chinese product not working as intended.

>>1615543
Agreed anon. My stihl trimmer is 10 years old. 2 spark plugs and a carb. 20.00. Still beats the pants off cordless and will never need to throw it away because new gas costs more than a new trimmer.

>>1615600
>That will be more than a decade of service for something that’s going to spend 99% of its life on a smart charge controller.
You are incorrect.
> what you have done is position yourself to buying several new tools when the replacement batteries are out of common production and the no-brand batteries you buy off amazon suck almost as bad as the dead ones.

Show me one professional tradesman who is still using his 2nd gen electric tools because the batteries and power are just too good to throw away.

>>1616276
>Landscaping equipment are greater polluters than most modern cars.
Curious isn't it that all that landscaping equipment is less regulated while it pollutes more.
>It's almost as if they don't really care so much about the environment than they do taxing businesses and big ticket items like cars.
Makes me wonder if climate really has a problem.

>>1628692
>>1628838
It was a farm.
The farmer died some 30+ years ago. His wife stayed on the property until she passed away. The property was overgrown with pine trees after not being farmed for 3 decades.
A real estate speculator bought the farm at auction, logged the trees then divided up the property and sold off lots.
I bought 15 acres, which includes a creek and some old growth forest that wasn't logged (mostly sweet gums, loggers only wanted pines for pulp for paper products).
I've been working on the 8-9 acres that were mostly clear cut. The grass is to prevent erosion. I've let local oaks, maples and some sweet gums grow while also planting burr oaks, live oaks and a variety of fruit trees.
The grass still has to be mowed a few times a year otherwise it's a massive fire hazard.

>>1632379
And I actually like walking around my property. I keep the grass under control so I don't have to put on hiking boots just to go water some saplings without stepping on rattlesnakes hidden in the 3 foot tall weeds.

Is it possible to get one not made in china? I dont want to give those godless commie chinks any money.

>>1632219
Kek. You done fucked up. I obviously aint the only person who dabbles in fact.

>>1616342
enjoy inhaling that 2-stroke diesel exhaust i guess?

>>1615409
I grew up on a farm using gas chainsaws & mowers. Got sick of having to mix gas, change spark plugs, clean carbs, etc. for 4 or 5 different tools.

Now I live in a house with a small yard and use an electric lawn mower. It is basically zero maintenance. You sharpen the blade periodically and put a tarp over it in winter, that's it.

If my yard were any bigger, dealing with the extension cord would be too much trouble and I would get a gas mower. But the cord is much easier to deal with than I expected.

Li-ion batteries can be as much trouble as gas.

>>1622848
You've never had a real petrol mower then

>>1632606
Not these days. Lithium is becoming solid af

>>1632379
Anon. Dig a trench and get a water wheel running asap

>>1632360
Thats why you git gid. Diy your own 18650 packs from ebay laptop batts

>>1631951
No shit

>>1631871
KEK. I actually am doing sort of the same thing. I planted a 1/4 row of hedges. I'm welding angle iron tracks up and building a 4 wheeled trimmer. It'll be on motorized track wheels with 6 strategically placed hedge trimmers to make the hedges 12 feet tall with a rounded top. On the far end out of the way will be a tin cuckshead with an electric door. I'll have some codemo key set it up so i can just visually check that everything is clear and have the trimmer come back to the starting line and do its thing. Have auto shutoff and derailment alarms so it doesnt go killbot on me.

About $500 paying someone else to plant the hedges. Roughly $2,000 in supplies to build. Solar to charge and lighting another $500.

$3,000 for a 1/4 mile privacy fence that always looks amazing and requires 0 work.

>>1632726
>$500 for a 1/4 mile of hedge.
So it's like 10" tall right now?
Your kids will appreciate all the effort you put into the hedge trimmer when they finally get to use it in the summer of 2053

>>1632761
You want a 17' tall hedge?

>>1632362
>professional tradesman
Way to move the goalposts.

>>1632772
I want to know where he was going to get 1/4 mille worth of plants that were larger than a seedling for $500.
A 3 foot cypress at Lowes is $50- and a foot wide.
At a nursery you could get them for $20 if you buy bulk.
Seedlings you can get for $2.50 in bulk, but they are twigs and will take a decade just to get 5 foot tall.

>>1632721
I had some decent LG lithium cells in my black and decker trimmer, the BMS fried right out of warranty. Two years and now I have a useless trimmer. I took it apart, I am debating wiring up a diy fanny pack battery bank. Might use eneloops.

Well i just rid my gas powerd drill and got a new one with a battery

Pretty happy now, my workshop does not smell like a gas station anymore and the neighbours don't yell at me anymore since the new drill is not that loud

>>1615409
all electric now. only problems so far are with the batteries but they are all under warranty so its only a minor inconvenience. ryobi 40v

I have a cheap wired lawnmower I bought from Amazon (Greentools or something like that). Also a few other wired tools.
Pros:
>lighter weight so you can mow one handed
>cheaper
>don't have to worry about oil/gas
>Single phase motor
>More sustained power compared to battery
Cons:
>Have to drag a cord around the yard
>cord gets hung on trees/bushes
>cord is expensive
>cord is a bit heavy
>You'll have to mow one handed a lot
Overall I'm content with my wired electric yardtools. It feels like I'm vacuuming my yard and I get strange looks from the white trash neighbors. After mowing a few times i've formed a good pattern that doesn't require me to move my cord constantly. It's kind of a pain in the ass but I haven't been wanting for more power, it cuts just as good as my gas mower ever did.

>>1634518
Awesome.

Guys help, I cut my grass a few weeks ago like normal, but now there's fucking tons of flies coming out of the mower, which is in a cupboard under the stairs. They're like these little fruit flies. No matter how many I kill they just keep appearing everywhere, they're all over the house and it's pissing me the fuck off. I sprayed all the inside of the cupboard and killed a shit load, but more just appeared. Idk how they're surviving, I don't have any fruit bowl or anything open that they would eat/live in to breed so rapidly. What do?

>>1634995
You probably have grass stuck in your bag or under your deck decomposing. Take it outside and wash it down. Dont turn it on unless you are behind it.

>>1635010
Yeah the mower's in a plastic bag, they probably latched on to loose grass bits underneath somehow after i finished cutting and are just breeding in it. Will move it out and give a hose down

>>1634995
Wait...
You put your lawn mower in the closet under the stairs like it's fucking Harry Potter?
Go ahead, say it's not that bad in London. Everything is perfectly normal....
Let me guess- if you leave it outside it will get impounded as a sharp object/ weapon?

>>1635026
Not leaving it out in the rain, might stop working, or just get stolen

>>1631485
fucken keke
>>>/sp/

>>1632312
>0:53 - autistic groaning
What did he mean by this?

>>1615409
Ryobi's are good enough electric tools. The weed wacker is great but the batteries are costly. I use two batteries and keep them charged and clean the machine thoroughly after every use.

>>1615409
zoomer who does landscaping so u can automatically disregard my opinion, i've used ryobi one+ and 40v for trimmer and leafblower. the one+ battery is absolute dogshit for both, in terms of both battery life and power, but the 40v is breddy gud from my experience. pretty much no maintenance but batteries cost a ridiculous amount new (at h*me d*pot they're $100, even though you can cop a 40v blower with battery included for like $120).

Growing my first lawn here. When exactly should I go about mowing it down? Do I just wait until its above 3 inches and then maintain that until the rest fills in? There are still thin patches that aren't growing in and I don't see why.

>>1624802
>not lazily driving the riding mower around the yard while drinking beer

Why even have grass?