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1623313 No.1623313 [Reply] [Original]

Why are Milwaukee tools the best tools in the game

>> No.1623447

>>1623313
bump

>> No.1623461
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>>1623313
>wannabe Bauer
Get that chink shit out of here

>> No.1623486

>>1623313
Because they're designed to be the best.

>> No.1623492
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>>1623461
>1 battery powers 20+ tools
I hope that plus is 100

>> No.1623514

>>1623313
1. Are they actually the best?
Makita tends to make great stuff too.
2. Why do the current Milwaukee tools not live up to the reputation of the older US made Milwaukee tools?
The only Milwaukee tools that are currently better are the cordless tools, and that mainly has to do with the batteries.
Some of the cordless tools vary with the market, and Europe gets better versions.

>> No.1623515

>>1623514
>Why do the current Milwaukee tools not live up to the reputation of the older US made Milwaukee tools?

Literally just boomers bitching about the country of origin.

>> No.1623533

>>1623515
The older Milwaukee tools were better designed, engineered, and manufactured.
It’s not that the newer Chinese tools are all bad.
Some have innovative features.
But the older tools tended to be machined right out of the package, and last for decades of hard use.
Milwaukee Sawzalls had one of the finest engineered mechanisms in the industry, according to engineers who tested the saws. Newer Milwaukee saws have gone to a cheaper easier to produce mechanism that isn’t made as well.
The newer Chinese tools have parts that aren’t machined or fabricated properly, including hole sizes.
I don’t want to say everything is bad, because the battery system is a massive improvement, and the impact screwdrivers and wrenches are way better, but a bunch of other details have gone to shit.
Also, Milwaukee has specifically chosen to use non-standard sizing for attachments, locking you in to Milwaukee accessories that are sometimes shit.

>> No.1623547

>>1623492
Kek, that’s the best thing. Only like 1/3 of the tools in that pic are cordless.

HF is retarded, they really need to merge Earthquake into the Hercules or Bauer brand. Earthquake has two tools that use their 18v batteries (maybe 3, the big impact comes with different anvil sizes) and then they have a ratchet and buffer on their 12v line (12v buffer with a tiny battery... why?). Hercules has 3 12v tools and only a few 18v tools, there is literally a drill and an impact driver and the other Hercules stuff is corded.

Retarded, it’s like if Bepis owned a tool store.

>>1623514
Milwaukee has the best lineup*

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>>1623461
Quite the product line you got there.

>> No.1623556

>>1623553
This pic always makes me laugh because there’s so many damn drills and impact drivers. Half of those only exist to sell people into the battery platform with <$200 drill and impact combos.

>> No.1623561

>>1623556
all of the drills and impacts are different, there are so many because there are 3/8", 1/2" hog ring, 1/2" pin detent, 3/4", 7/16" QD, and 1" drive models, with and without One Key.

>> No.1623573

>>1623561
No, there’s a bunch of 1/4” hex drivers and 1/2” drills. Then 1/2” mid torque and 1/2” Fuel mid torque for no real reason other than they still need to sell off some leftover brushed models.

>> No.1623574

>>1623561
>>1623573
Jesus, I just realized that’s only the Fuel lineup. The whole M18 lineup would be way fucking worse.

>> No.1623576
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>>1623561
>>1623573
>>1623574
Pic related is the one I was originally thinking of.

>> No.1623592

>>1623576
whats the tool with the circular end to the right of the grinders? it looks fun

>> No.1623627

>>1623592
Pipe Threader

>> No.1623634

>>1623576
christ i always forget how many of those specialty plumbing and lineman's tools Milwaukee makes.

>> No.1623648

>>1623313
Not really and I don't want to support Putin loving Donald Trumponov by buying those.

>> No.1623650

Why the FUCK doesnt Ridgid make a cordless bandsaw yet? I've never been able to get an accurate cut on EMT with a sawzall compared to a plain old hacksaw

>> No.1623658

>>1623650
>I've never been able to get an accurate cut on EMT with a sawzall compared to a plain old hacksaw
have you tried cutting it in a straight line?

>> No.1623660

>>1623313

Because the best shit is made in China. Communist China > kkkapitalist Japan

>> No.1623663

>>1623533
>phenomenon of companies engineering their tools for profit margins as raw material costs go up
>bullshit implication that only Milwaukee has done this

Its literally been happening since the 70s anon.
The ONLY reason you hear about it from Milwaukee is because MUH COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.

>> No.1623664

I'm heavily in the Milwaukee platform. It's the best overall big box brand.

Obviously it's not Festool or Hilti, and you can find certain better tools in other big box brands, but it's overall the best contractor brand.

>>1623553
I'm ashamed to say how much of this useless garbage I've bought. Never buy a cordless tablesaw or 8" grinder

>> No.1623665

mil for power tools
rigid for hand tools.

though i hear rigid power tools are nice.

>> No.1623667

>>1623648
/pol/ stay out.
Also; you're a faggot.

>> No.1623684

>>1623658
Yeah I cut a straighter line with a hacksaw than with a sawzall

>> No.1623691

>>1623665
ridgid power tools are pretty shit, however they did(probably still do) have a really great warranty that was basically a no questions asked tool replacement at the store

>> No.1623734

>>1623461
I'm glad you're continuing the tradition of being the biggest retard around by being the first to respond to a dogshit thread that everyone managed to ignore for hours.

>> No.1623744

Milwaukee tools are my fav. I run Ryobi at the house, but at work I'm all Milwaukee. I've had my drill, impact driver, and sawzall from a set that's 5 years old. Those 3 get the shit used out of them. 1 of 3 batteries has shit out, and the drill chuck had to get replaced under warranty after year 2 because it got real tight and was a pain to get bits out of, but I don't really consider that bad with the extreme use they get. I've since got an impact wrench, SDS drill, oscillating multi tool, grease gun, PEX expander, PVC shears, and 6 more batteries. Everything has worked great. The impact wrench has more power than air wrenches we have, but they aren't top of the line air wrenches and they're older. The SDS drill has more power than the corded Hilti TE 5. I got one of their heated jackets 80% off. That's the only thing I don't like. It was regular old jacket price at discount and it's a good jacket, but the heated part it kind of a meme. I thought it would be warm enough to make me sweat when it's 20 out, but it's just kind of a mild warm on high.

>> No.1623797

They've broken my heart lately.
>bought string trimmer, they release a Newer 3in1 version that does pole saw n fucks off
Invest in a few 9 amp batteries
>one has less life than my 5 amp, one the fucking indicator button wont go

Oh and hole hawg for electricians first then the plumbers like a year later. Used that lil bitch with sharp hole saws up to 3 5/8 though

>> No.1623839

>>1623734
Anytime bby

>>1623691
When was the last time you ever used any Ridgid power tools? I haven’t heard any real complaints on the Gen5 or Octane stuff. Even the reviewers are like “I didn’t want to like it so much because it isn’t Milwaukee or DeWalt, but Ridgid stepped up.”

>>1623650
Kek, all the Ridgid Q&As are full of people asking for a band saw. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have some deal not to compete with Milwaukee on tools like that.

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>>1623839
>I wouldn’t be surprised if they have some deal not to compete with Milwaukee on tools like that.
Are you telling me I might have to invest in new batteries and a charger if I want a fucking cordless bandsaw

>> No.1624276

>>1624230
Or a generator and the Bauer

I was reading the reviews on some Ridgid cordless tool a few days ago and it was literally like 100 posts asking for the bandsaw and the official Ridgid profile was like “No bandsaw is in the works, but we will pass it on to our team” or some corporate BS like that. I was waiting for Ridgid to come out with a more powerful 1/2” impact for months thinking maybe they would have an Octane model bigger than the Gen5X, then I saw the ad for the “New Octane Impact Wrench!” and was pulling out my debit card and then saw it’s the exact same tool except they had the tool ready before the Octane batteries so they slapped a Gen5X plate on it and changed it to Octane logos once the batteries were in all the stores.

I like my Ridgid stuff but the selection is the one reason I might end up regretting it. At the very least might have to get the M18 Fuel impact wrench and bandsaw and a couple batteries to ride along with all the Orange.

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LOL Milwaukee plebs.

>> No.1624320

>>1624294
The specs on this thing are actually pretty pathetic, it only brews 3 5oz "cups"
So basically it makes one large cup of coffee then it's dead

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for those that dont know today is Milwaukee's New Product Symposium 2019 in Wilwaukee, WI showing off a lot of new items throughout the day.

Toolboss is livestreaming the whole event on Youtube but there is a lot to go over.

so far:
>new Milwaukee branded gloves
>hand tools
>hard hats
>safety glasses
>variations of the smaller USB lights and hard hat lights
>new Matrix Carbide drive bits with a lifetime warranty
>next generation Shockwave and red helix drill bits and drive bits to replace the current ones
>new packout accessories, rolling dolly, wall mount plates, open basket that can mount to walls and other packout cases
>this neat remove controlled jobsite light
https://twitter.com/TheConTechCrew/status/1136643683309281280
>M18 trim router

updates coming later.

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>>1624529
M18 Fuel Rear Handle Saw.

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>>1624534
M18 Fuel Narrow Crown Stapler

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>>1624536
M18 Fuel 21 and 30 Degree framing nailers.

there were some patent documents leaked showing this nailer used a super-capacitor to increase the power output (first cordless tool to use one) per shot, so hopefully they will be more powerful and reliable current models.

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full sized 12" miter saw.

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9" cut-off hot saw

looks like it has a water line hook up in the back.

>> No.1624545
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>we head you use Dewalt tools

>> No.1624559
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some kind of heavy duty drain snake.

>> No.1624560
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M12 sander/buffer

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M12 surge driver, do want.

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M12 1/2" rachet/digital torque wrench

>> No.1624566
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M12 multi headed install tool.

>> No.1624567

>>1624561
In M12? Neat, although I don’t really see the appeal of those because it’s sort of like halfway between a regular drill/driver and an impact. I hear you still get some wrist torque but not as bad as a regular drill, yet it’s not as fast as a normal impact. Only thing it makes sense for is very quiet places like if you’re installing shit inside a library that is open with people studying. A hospital handyman could maybe use it I guess.

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im not a big fan of this one, great for people putting up cabinets and electrical boxes in tight places but they moved forward and reverse on top where the speed controller should be and the handguard doesnt see to serve much use other than a large magnet on the front to store bits and extra screws.

maybe it will turn out to be very useful, the guard will protect your hands in tight places and the storage magnet will make it easier to get jobs done, it just doesnt look right at the moment.

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M18 packout radio. completely waterproof, 4 speakers and 2 subwoofers, can be corded and act as a M18 charger as well.

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M18 hydraulic pump, good for 10,000psi

>> No.1624578

>>1624566
Didn’t they release something like this in Yurop awhile back?

And I just realized they already have an M12 SDS... wtf? Milwaukee confirmed as based.

>>1624563
Was it only 1/2”? I wonder what the cost and durability is on something like that. Those would be great for engine building.

>> No.1624580

>>1624573
Jfc.... but if this is like the DeWalt and Ridgid compressors, it will be useless for anything but the lightest work unless you have dozens of giant battery packs ready to go.

>> No.1624586

>>1624578
Milwaukee Europe has the same multi-headed tool but it is the standard M12 Fuel drill with a removable chuck rather than this more specialized tool layout.

the ratchet is 1/2" and 3/8", a lot of people are complaining that it only goes up to 150ft/lbs which is a little low for a torque wrench that size.

there are also some alternate versions of the regular M12 Fuel ratchets with longer necks to reach into tighter places.

>> No.1624590

>>1624586
>150ft-lbs
>12v
Listen, if you gotta torque it to 200+, you can slam them on with the impact gun and then come back with a heavy duty torque wrench. It’s impressive to see it in a 1/2” size going up that high because that’s already a lot of pressure on an electronic gadget.

I’m curious what pricing will be. If enough mechanics are spending money on them, maybe $400-$500? If they’re real slow to move in the beginning maybe they will be priced higher like all those $1000+ plumbing and electrical tools.

>> No.1624592

>>1624590
the torque wrench is $599 for the bare tool, it does have One Key as well so there will be some phone interface features as well.

>> No.1624614

>>1624529
will probably get the router
>>1624543
the last milwaukee miter saws were pretty terrible
>>1624567
try screwing into sheet metal all day long with a regular impact, shit is loud and annoying. being m12 just makes it lighter which is very nice. doing commercial hvac i almost never use my 18v drills, its all 12v all day

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Epic shit incoming

>> No.1624696

>>1624560
That's not a sander or a buffer lol
That's a die grinder, buffers are low speed high torque, that's high speed low torque

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>>1624696
i figured it was closer to a die grinder given that collet, im used to die grinders being inline tools like pic related rather than a right angle tool for surface work.

>> No.1624703

>>1624614
the 10" miter saw isnt bad, but it was complete shit if you tried using any battery smaller than the 9.0ah it came with. same probobly goes for this one, dont even think of using anything smaller than a 12.0ah High Output battery and it will be fine.

>> No.1624738

>>1623313
I'll take one of each, please

>> No.1624793

>>1624592
The 1/2” was $599?

Imagine what that thing would cost with a Snap On logo on it...

>>1624614
I wasn’t arguing the 12v tools. I use my 12v drill and impact way more than I use the 18v models. Not a tradie but the 12v impact driver has done everything I expect a 1/4” impact to do. The M12 Fuel is even more powerful too. My buddy who does networking installation shit, I was telling him for a long time how nice the 12v impacts were and he grabbed the M12 Fuel and never looked back.

I was talking about the hydraulic thing. I think a lot of people are trying it just to try it. The noise seems to be the only benefit and one could easily use a drill instead of the regular impact if they have the odd job where the impact is too noisy. I still kinda want to buy the Ridgid one just to add it to the collection.

>> No.1624982

Glad I didnt buy the fucking miter saw already. God damn you Milwaukee for talking your sweet ass time releasing better products and fucking us all over.

>> No.1624986

>>1624696
>That's not a sander or a buffer lol
"Sander" and "buffer" are categories defined by function and abrasive type, not the machine powering them. Abrasive grains bonded to backing (sandpaper) is widely used as the basis of die grinder abrasives. See the roloc flap disks in the pic? There are also buffing accessories for die grinders, usually intended for work in very tight areas.

>>1624702
"Right angle" and "straight" or "inline" refer to the relative orientation of the motor and the output shaft, and both are found in all sorts of tools. A die grinder is a high-speed rotary tool that drives various cutting bits with a collet, typically 1/4", and is capable of working in confined areas like the inside of a die. Right angle die grinders are fairly common in the small size shown in the picture, while larger right angle grinders tend to use a threaded mount. Straight die grinders come in a wider range of sizes and powers since a collet is still useful in that orientation, but larger ones may also be able to fit a threaded mount to use standard "right angle grinder" accessories.

>> No.1624988

>>1624986
>"Sander" and "buffer" are categories defined by function and abrasive type, not the machine powering them.
This is 100% wrong
Look at a dewalt 9 inch grinder then look at a dewalt 9 inch buffer
They are the same tools, they take the same attachments, the grinder spins at 6500 rpm the buffer spins at 3500

>> No.1624997

>>1624988
And what if you put a 4.5" buffing wheel on the 6500 RPM one and a 9" flap disk on the 3500 RPM one? A sander is a tool used for sanding, and a buffer is a tool used for buffing. Are you telling me you take the marketing department at their word?

>> No.1624998

>>1624988
Incidentally, 3500 RPM is the right speed for a 6" expansion wheel, making the "buffer" the far superior option for a lot of grinding tasks.

>> No.1625001

>>1624997
It's about surface speed you retard, larger wheels have a higher surface speed on the edges.
If you used a grinder as a buffer you would melt paint off a damn car

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>Milwaukee
>Best

Aww. Looks like baby has been to Home Depot once.

Anyone who *USES* tools tools to feed their family knows big box store brands aren't for professionals.

>> No.1625006

>>1625001
Did you see the mention of the 4.5" buffer here >>1624997? At slightly less than twice the RPM, a half-diameter disk has slightly lower surface speed. If the 9" buffer won't melt the paint, neither will that, and it can get in tighter spots if needed. As you said, surface speed matters. Handy that abrasives come in different sizes so that a single tool can be used for multiple tasks.

>> No.1625134

>>1625004
Hilti shills are the busriders of /diy/.

enjoy your hand me down 14.4v Dewalt tools, maybe someday you'll save enough money to buy your own overpriced red tools you'll never use to their full potential.

>> No.1625196

>>1625006
>use 9 inch wheel on a 4.5in buffer
>it's too fast
>use 4.5in wheel on 9 in buffer
>it's too slow
Wow man, it's almost like they made these tools to be effective with the correct sized attachments on them or some shit.
Reply again, defend your retardation again.

>> No.1625235

>>1625196
I think we might be having a reading issue again.
>>use 9 inch wheel on a 4.5in buffer
Where did I mention a 4.5" buffer (the power tool that holds a buffing wheel)? In that post I mentioned a 4.5" buffer (the wheel that attaches to a power tool and does the buffing). The difference is important because you just disagreed with the opposite of the point I was making. That is, in your desire to argue about semantics on an Inuit scrimshaw forum, you managed to restate the content of the post you were trying to argue against. While this is amusing to see, it does get old rather quickly, so please actually read this time. For context, the specific power tools we were talking about are the DeWalt "9 inch grinder" (6500RPM) and "9 inch buffer" (3500RPM) you mentioned here >>1624988.

The "9 inch buffer" with a 9" wheel has an edge surface speed of 8250 feet per minute. The "9 inch grinder" with a 4.5" wheel has an edge surface speed of 7650 feet per minute. Note that the “grinder” actually has the lower surface speed in this example. A 5” wheel would put it closer but slightly higher, at 8500 feet per minute. These speeds are somewhat high for some buffing operations, so a smaller wheel may be appropriate as needed. Meaning that the surface speed of a rotary tool depends not only on the speed of an output shaft (or what the marketing department decided to call the power tool driving it) but on the diameter of the abrasive wheel / whatever being used, and that a single power tool can perform a variety of tasks requiring different surface speeds by using different kinds of wheels with different sizes. Any questions?

>> No.1625236

>>1625196
>>it's too slow
While grinding / polishing / whatever operations have a typical economic optimal speed that balances productivity with abrasive life, going slower than that is not the same sort of thing as going faster. Going faster runs into issues like abrasives exploding or overheating the workpiece. Going slower just gives a less aggressive cut. Running a grinding wheel at half its normal speed totally works fine, and is preferable for some things.

>> No.1625289

>>1624614
>he doesnt like the sound of shooting screws with an impact
could you imagine?

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>>1623313
Milwaukee's combination wrenches are actually really fucking good.
I bought them on fathers day sale, 90$ for a 15 piece set (normally $130) I bought both Metric and SAE.

Unironically the highest quality wrenches I have ever seen outside of the Tool Truck brands. And I think they could rival tool truck brands honestly.
They look like Carlyle made them, and we know how great Carlyle is. Taiwanese with a lifetime warranty.

If you are looking for wrenches that are better made and finished than your run of the mill Gearwrench/Craftsman/Crescent/Masterforce/Sunex/Tekton stuff, this is a good option. Of course it costs about twice as much as those other options, but at least there is a middle ground without having to jump into MAC prices

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>>1625358

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>>1625364
Non slip open ends

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>>1625366
Flank drive like lobes on the box end

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>>1625367
Another cool thing is that the packaging they come in doubles as a nice wrench organizer. They match each other and fit in standard toolbox drawers.
I hate portable wrench holders that take up way too much space.

>> No.1625393

>>1625358
>>1625366

>> No.1625394

>>1625370
>>1625393
Ooops...

Their tool boxes are surprisingly affordable, I was checking them out. But I’m still thinking HF because of the extra 4” of depth.

Anyway those Milwaukee tools are straight, the socket sets look pretty, but they’re fuckin expensive for Asian made tools. The sets look nice and complete, maybe one day I’ll come to terms with it, but Tekton and Gearwrench will give you a whole lot for less and some SK or Proto isn’t that much more expensive.

>> No.1625403

>>1625394
I dont like Tekton or Gearwrench, I own both and they are shaped weird and clunky in my hands. I find their fit and finish isnt all that nice.
I think the Milwaukee is a nice middle ground if you are looking for something nicer without spending giant amounts of money.
We all know you can get away with harbor freight wrenches.

I already had looked at SK and Proto and they both costs double. Instead of getting a full set of wrenches for like $200, you are looking at close to $400 at which point id buy Matco or something.

>> No.1625409

>>1625394
>but they’re fuckin expensive for Asian made tools.

Im of the opinion, the only reason asian made tools were garbage is because companies specced their tools out to be garbage.
You use low wages and no EPA restrictions, but you spec your tools out with high quality processes you can get tools as good as anyone elses. Itll just be cheaper.

Im glad to see higher priced asian tools honestly, they have the capability to make great stuff. They just dont because people are afraid to pay for quality.

>> No.1625410

>>1625403
Oh man those SK X-Beam wrenches though... I get a chubby looking at them.

But they’re slow on innovation. SK released a sweet new ratchet like a year or two ago and it was only the basic 3/8” but they said they were going to release all the sizes and configurations after. A couple years later and still only 3/8”.

They should sell SK at Home Depot. I bet they could make some money as long as they put them in their own section clearly marked “WHITES ONLY”

>> No.1625413

>>1625409
I know what you mean but I always thought Gearwrench was pretty damn nice and they aren’t asking $150 for a 1/4” socket set.

More of these tools need to be sold in more retail locations so we get black friday sales on Williams and shit and so we can go browse at the Home Depot after work on Friday and try not to impulse buy too much.

Also I think maybe those Milwaukee tools will drop in price quite a bit in a year or two.

>> No.1625417

>>1625413
I find that Gearwrenches sockets are some of the best bang for the buck out there, stuff is pretty good.
I dont like their ratcheting wrenches though, not the chinese ones with the oddly shaped open ends at least.

But to be fair, Gearwrench sets can be found for like 70$ now. When they to be made in Taiwan, and they were very expensive back in the day.

>> No.1625518

>>1625417
Yeah you don’t find too many combination wrenches or pliers made in Taiwan. Sockets and ratchets, yes, but the wrenches tend to be China.

I think I was looking at some of the new Klutch wrenches and they said India on them which threw me off. They’re typically a solid Taiwanesium brand so I’m not sure if the Indian ones are better or worse than affordable Chinese one. They had new Klutch pro wrenches too IIRC but not sure where those were from.

>> No.1625522

>>1625410
This guy gets it

>> No.1625523

>>1624568
Lol if they’re gonna blatantly copy Bosch maybe they will return the favor and let Bosch copy their 12v 1/4 and 3/8 ratchets....

>> No.1625524

>>1624586
Your not gonna use that torque wrench on engines... that’s what you want if your running big electrical cables that all need to be torqued to spec in a box... for automotive work it would be underpowered and somewhat silly... for electrical it’s portable and saves your arms if you have to make a couple hundred connections.....

>> No.1625527

>>1625523
I wonder if that goofy ass handle on the M12 is to keep Bosch’s lawyers off their ass.

>let them copy the ratchet
Bruh, for the sales they have on M12 stuff plus the 5yr warranty, there isn’t much of a reason to go with any other 12V line if you’re looking for more than a drill/driver.

>> No.1625528

>>1625524
Most mechanic fags who tried the M12 ratchet claim it’s one of their most used tools. That 1/2” looked real big, but I could see the mechanic guys using the 3/8” all around, especially if you get dudes building engines.

>> No.1625532

>>1625527
Already have a bunch of the 12v Bosch tools. The impact, new and old style drivers (customer gave me one he found by the side of the road as a tip which was fucking awesome) a dremel, drill with a regular chuck, and the I driver. Bunch of batteries and some flashlights.. don’t plan on switching but would buy the 12 v 1/4 inch ratchet if they made it.. unfortunately Bosch only has the impact gun with the 1/4 socket adapter... I do prefer the I driver to Milwaukee’s right angle 12v.. I driver angle is adjustable instead of fixed.

>> No.1625542

>>1625532
For $99, I was so close to grabbing the M12 set even though the Ridgid is right here on my workbench. M12 Fuel set for $199 with a free ratchet, snag the Hackzall with a 4.0 or 6.0 battery later. Would barely even have to touch the 18v tools.

>> No.1625547

>>1625542
Oddly I’m actually looking at getting some ryobi... the 12 v Bosch is for work. The ryobi is because for 200$ I can get 2 batteries, a charger, a promo tool (probably going to get the angle grinder) and the 18 gauge trim nailed... because I have a shitload of trim between mine and my relatives house that needs put up and I’m tired of hand nailing it... and 200 is the cheapest I could find to get into a battery powered trim gun.

>> No.1625551

>>1625547
So 18v, huh?

Can’t complain about that. I’m down with my Ridgid stuff so far considering I’m only in it about $400 for 4 batteries (3, 4, 4, 6), two fast chargers, and brushless hammer drill, 1/4” impact driver, 1/2” impact wrench, and sawzall.

They have two deals right now I think- the Octane hammer drill and impact driver kit with two free tools for like $350 or the two Octane batteries plus charger for $180 with one free tool. It’s a little pricey for the bigger kit, but it comes with a couple real nice batteries and that Octane hammer drill is supposed to be a beast.

Ridgid’s lineup has pretty much every tool you would expect, but Ryobi’s selection is wild especially considering the price point.

>> No.1625673

>>1625551
There’s probably one other Ryobi tool that I’m gonna buy right away, and oddly that would be their hot glue gun for 30 bucks. So at the end of the day I’m looking at a hot glue gun, two batteries, a charger, the nail gun, and a grinder, for a total of $230. Pretty good considering I mostly intend to use it for around the house and occasional stuff. Like I said I have the Bosch 12v stuff for work. And the only one of those Ryobi tools that I think I could actually see taking with me occasionally is the hot glue gun believe it or not. I do appliance repair in every once in a while you run into busted plastic panels that you can either repair with a hot glue gun, or replace for about 100 bucks a plastic panel .... I have a pretty nice corded hot glue gun but you know cordless what do I have a pretty nice corded hot glue gun but you know cordless would be neat too.

>> No.1625674

>>1625673
>>1625551
I actually already have a Makita 18 V drill with two batteries for around the house stuff, but the trim gun for that is like $240 for just the bare tool...

>> No.1625911

>>1625523
Milwaukee Europe has had a multi headed drill like that for just as long of bir liner than Bosch, this will be Milwaukee's third generation model.

>> No.1626993

Why should I get a Milwaukee bundle from home Depot today instead of any other brand?

>> No.1627007

>>1626993
quality, power, wide selection of products available in stores, good warranty coverage

there are actually some really good deals going on at Home Depot right now. this is probobly the best set of tools you can get for $200 right now.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Impact-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-with-Free-M18-HACKZALL-2893-22CXP/307387084

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Impact-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-with-Cordless-Jobsite-Fan-2893-22CXF/308992772

>> No.1627384

>>1624534
This should have came it years ago.will be buying it when they inevitably sell it with a free battery in November
>>1624544
This is retarded
>>1624559
This is stupid. Will get fucked hard if you run it in a sewer with thick roots.
>>1624561
Do want
>>1624566
This has my interest
>>1624563
Way too expensive. Might be a good electrical tool when it goes on sale
>>1624543
All of their miter saw always have that "Chinese" touch where they have several little design flaws that make the tool trash.
>>1624572
>$299 plastic radio
The rest of the packout stuff is nice. I have two packout sets and will probably get a dolly and two of the crates. The radio is fucking retarded though
>>1624573
Another tool one will use


No mower and no brushless oscillating tool.

>> No.1627387

>>1623576
What would this entire package cost? 10k?

>> No.1627440

>>1627387
What??
Much more lol
Probably closer to 50-60k

>> No.1627659

>>1626993
5 year warranty on tools compared to 3 years from other brands. It’s probably the 2nd most widely available power tool brand in the US aside from DeWalt. Their selection of tools for mechanic work is the best and the M12 lineup is far above any other 12V lineup. This is coming from somebody who owns Ridgid.

>>1627387
A lot more. Some of those specialty tools for electricians and plumbers cost $2000-$5000 each.

>> No.1627691

>>1627384
theres actually a lot of demand for cordless cut-off saws, especially in the concrete world. gas models have water hook-ups to keep the dust down but you cant use those indoors and the corded electric models dont play nice with water and you are stuck in a basement cutting dusty holes in their slabs with at best a shop vac running in the background. with battery models the electrical components are in sealed compartments and are fairly waterproof.

>> No.1627723

>Mil 4 1/2 grinder for work
>Put guard on
>The guard teeth eat through the grinder's teeth that hold guard in place
>Two of them completely fell off after being whittled to nothing by vibration while another four or so are about halfway dead
What the fuck is happening here? Why is the guard able to shake this much it eats the very parts meant to hold it?

>> No.1627728

>>1627723
Fuel one or regular one? I have two fuel ones and beat the shit out of them and they are both holding up great
The non fuel one is absolute trash that I literally wouldn't take for free

>> No.1627747

>>1627728
>>1627723

Likewise... Using a fuel 4.5 grinder daily and it keeps going. In fact all my milwaukee tools are fuel and they all take a beating regularly and still work flawlessly.
Have you actually got it secured properly? Have you got the lug on the right way round?
I dunno man I use mine a lot and here is no movement in the guard at all.

As for milwaukee on the whole, the only tool I have issue with is their cordless planer. Pretty sure it was fucked outta the box. Feels cheap, looks cheap, snaps blades for fun, dust bag has less capacity than my right nut and it empties 5amp batteries in no time.
Only bought it because they don't do a better one.

Everything else I own has a very solid, durable and precise feel to it.

>> No.1627810

>>1627747
>>1627728
Regular wired 11 amp one. Would pressing on the back of the guard possibly cause this? I can't think of any other reason why it would get so damaged. Lug is on right and out of the box is good but month or so down the line noticed it happening and now it's bad enough cutting wheels damage the guard.

>> No.1628098

FUCK TOOL BOSS. VCG CONSTRUCTION IS THE GO TO PLACE FOR POWER TOOL INFORMATION

>> No.1628219

Milwaukee for me is a good example of america: shooting natives, naming something after them and use it for commercial money making.
It's like "Hiroshima onions sauce, Inc"

apart from that, other subject:
other tools are the same ok
btw, i have lot of makita and festool, but they are not the best for everyone
it is ALMOST as stupid as nikon/canon or sports team wars

>> No.1628292

>>1628098
>VCG CONSTRUCTION

that guy seems like such a sleezeball, i wouldnt want him working anywhere near by house or jobsite.

guys like him will come up with every excuse in the book for why your deck isnt done while he is busy fucking the neighbors wife and someone on his crew is in your crawlspace pulling out copper wires for meth.

>> No.1628319

>>1628292
Why do you think Vince is a sleezeball? seems like a genuine dude to me

>> No.1628631

>>1628219
>Hiroshima onions sauce, Inc"
explain

>> No.1628644

>>1628292

at least he tries to hide it as opposed to people who will just take all your copper cabling, call it a safety improvement, and demand $50/hr for it. My mom still has to use extension cords all over her house because they went back home to mexico after that

>> No.1628725

>>1628631
Milwaukee ist a native tribe, like the sioux, the utah, idaho, wyoming and so on, yourcity names are full of that. Once you know that, you see there artefacts everywhere. To shoot them and sell stuff in tribal red is typical for the agressiveness of the us-empire.