/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Current habitat shell, suspended from ceiling light

>>1621724
Are you the same guy who did the underwater hampture colony a decade ago and invented the troll face?

>>1621733

Cereal guy you mean. Yes I am but this thread is not about me, it is about the utopian dream of sky hamsters.

>>1621724
Now this is shitposting

Absolutely based. Have you spoken to the guy who does Hampture?

If people are willing to pay him to support his underwater hamsters, people would definitely pay you for your airborne hamsters.

>>1621736

I am that guy. The funding goes to both projects.

>>1621738
Ah, right on. Call into The Dick Show again sometime

>>1621743

Sure maybe, if invited. I don't want to push myself on anybody. What I do want is advice. I probably should have just asked the questions separately with no context.

>>1621724
Is there a Patreon? I support this.

>>1621766

https://www.patreon.com/hampture

There isn't a separate one for the sky stuff, this one funds both the sky habitat and the underwater colony. Also if you want to watch the hamsters go about their lives like a voyeuristic creep, there's a 24/7 stream: https://www.twitch.tv/hampture

Leaked photo of OP

>>1621724
Will they follow free-market principles?

>>1621830

Dwarf hamsters are among the greediest and most vicious creatures in the animal kingdom besides cats

>>1621830

Dwarf hamsters are among the greediest and most vicious creatures in the animal kingdom besides geese, wasps, and somebody else's cat

>>1621797
te-hee

>>1621766
>>1621768
nice samefaggotry
fuck off and find another way to make money. The OP is the most inane thing I've read in a while

>>1621768
>1000+ patreonbux per month
>can't afford helium and weather balloons

>>1621734
Are you going to make more comics eventually?

>>1621724
Standard, consumer grade balloons are porous. They’ll leak the helium in 3-4 days.

>>1621724
You can buy add-on RC plane/helicopter payload release mechanisms and or nerf dart shooters.

You should be able to unlock a door with one easily with little adaptation

I was huge into RC stuff as a kid and always wanted one of the better planes with payload dropping capabilities

>>1621724
>since if it bursts, the entire thing plummets to Earth.
You could add an accelerometer launched parachute that deploys if it senses the colony plummeting.

>>1622111

>>1621882

Rent, utilities and food are not free where I live.

>>1621868

I didn't post the question. I invite any mods who may see this exchange to confirm it.

Hamster Ryan please finish connecting the habitats together it’s been like 3 months since there was a substantial development

>>1622136

I solved that problem in the second most recent video. Did you watch it all the way through?

make a torus shaped dirigible. use hydrogen for extra suspense.

>>1621724
Learn about helium and its lifting properties
Then get a weather balloon
Put just enough helium in the balloon to allow neutral weight for the combined craft
Then attach a run of the mill drone and use that as the lift system

Post this on /sci/ if you want some real answers

>>1621836
>(((dwarf hamsters)))

>>1622160

Is using helium balloons for lifting payloads really on that level of complexity? Come to think of it I never bothered to check if there are any well regarded books on the topic I might buy on Amazon

>>1622173
>Is using helium balloons for lifting payloads really on that level of complexity?

The autists there would be better able to answer your questions, yes. This board will just tell you to use a shot of black and turn this into a discussion about just digging a hole under the habitat instead of lifting the habitat itself

>>1622306
/sci/ won't help, they think hobby projects are beneath them.

Funny seeing this here, I heard about you on The Dick Show lol.

Honestly, does it need to actually float or are you ok with just suspending it? If you hang it from balloons, you're going to have to tether it to the ground anyway to keep it from flying away in a strong breeze.

If you're dead set on it flying, you might want to look into active support. Basically if you shoot water up at it constantly in just the right way it'll float on that. The costs to keep the pumps running might be less than the helium costs anyway, and you can vary the height of it just buy turning the pump power up or down.

>>1622324

There will for sure be an anchor to keep it in place. I still consider that floating.

>>1621836

So...yes?

>>1622328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNHp8iyyIjo

>>1622346

Sucks how you are samefagging your patreon but I do want to see you succeed.

>>1622397

I did no such thing.

Just wanted to say I really loved your comics particularly when I was smoking tons of weed as a freshman in college.

Can you please post the one about Wii Music and making kids listen to your farts?

>>1621734
Cereal guy? Can I get another comic? Bless you in all your batshit endevors, I follow you on YouTube but I'm scared to watch a video.
Nice Jordi glasses.

>>1621724
>Lastly, is there a premade remote control payload release mechanism for drones, that would spare me from having to 3D print one and learn mechatronics? The leg extensions existed already as a consumer product for like $7.
You might go with a bladder system that can release Helium and refill from a compressed air cylinder - this would also give you some control over altitude and allow you to recover the whole structure for patches.

>>1621735
Nah man, he's the real deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URsW8K9kQK0

>>1622097
That would probably go off in the first wind storm and send the thing flying faster.

>>1622313
They also lack even a basic understanding of science that isn't just parroting of Nye, Tyson, or Kaku.

>>1622328
Nah man, you gotta aim higher - air bladders and Helium canisters for vertical movement, fans for navigation, solar panels to recharge, onboard batteries, sat connection + GPS, the works. You could be invading small countries with parahampsters if you do this right.

>>1622397
desu it's probably just that his patreon supporters are also autists.

>>1622512
https://plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=80

Please contact Elon musk

>>1622676
>invading small countries
Is this the Felony Falcon general?


>>1621724
>is the decrease steep?
Yes. Also all balloons will leak, but party balloons will leak more.
>stably suspend a surface
Don't make it too light and don't have too many balloons or wind will fuck you up. As to how to phisically land on it, you just need to attach some vertical aluminum bars to the cage and tying your balloons there instead of directly in the corners of the cage. Then practice landing under a chair in a windy day and you'll be golden.
>charging the drone
Don't park the drone there, have it come down to recharge. You need power to keep the hamsters warm.

>premade control payload
You can't use a commercial drone anyway (would be way too expensive to get one that suits your needs, but if you really want to do it look for one that accepts accessories or has lights you can turn on and off, which means there's at least 1 extra channel you can modify for use ), and while choosing the remote for your diy one make sure it has a couple of extra channels. Look for flysky fs i6s chink knockoff or something, should set you back 50 dollars for transmitter and receiver and has 10 channels.
You will need to make a custom delivery system anyway, but when you have the receiver is just a matter of hooking up a couple of wires.
There are plenty of guides on the internet on how to build a drone.


Btw you might be better off using small custom built hot hair balloons hooked up to an ardupilot board, so you can regulate altitude and the autopilot takes care of staying where you want it.
Also consider the legality of having heavy equipment fly, nobody gives a shit about hampture failing, but you Columbiham flying city crashing down in someone's head might have you in a pinch.

>>1622667

That's...really clever. Have people in the RC community actually done this? You don't hear much about RC balloons

Come back to us, Lego Robot. We need you now more than ever.

>>1621724
Hamster rocket dude here, hello hamster father

>>1622994

Tell these fine people about the hamster rocket.

>>1623002
Will do.
I currently am too lazy to pull out my laptop and show off the designs, so i'm gonna pull it from the one image I posted on Twitter.
It uses a 38mm reloadable motor, with 2 centering rings and a bulkhead at the engine to separate the payload chamber from the engine. It uses an altimeter with a magnetic apogee detector for redundancy and a small black powder charge to deploy the parachute. Inside the payload chamber will be lots of cushioning and sound dampening foam, with a single hamster friend inside.

>>1623010
Not gonna lie to you my mans that sounds pretty cruel. Like I get hamster guy's stuff, but something about strapping a small animal to a rocket sounds like a bit much.

>>1623017
It's in a rocket designed with the goal of it surviving. People literally tie small creatures to rockets and fireworks and send them up.

>>1623019
Just because something survives does not mean it isn't cruel.

>>1623022
Life is cruel.

>>1623022
Sending small creatures up on rockets is how we got ourselves to the moon, and we still do it to this day. Recently Elon sent up 40 or so mice up on one of his falcon rockets to the ISS. How is that any different than what I am trying to achieve?

>>1623024
Just admit you are using the schtick created by hamster guy to justify your sadistic urges by hurting small animals dude. Living beings are not your playthings that you can just whatever the fuck you want with. The difference between you and Elon Musk is that he has millions of dollars and a scientific goal, you are just a internet guy who wants to put a hamster on a rocket for the fuck of it.

>>1623033
>putting animals on a rocket for the fuck of it
Who said I didn't have similar goals to hamster father? My aim is to send hamsters into orbit, and safely bring them back down. This cannot be done without baby steps.

>>1621724
Are you that same hamster guy that used to post on /sci/ before /diy/ existed, that was making hamster scuba stuff?

>>1623034
Except we literally already know this can be achieved and have done for ages. You are different from hamster father because he is actually doing something interesting that in the future could be actually useful, and you are trying to strap a small mammal to a rocket. The soviets were putting animals on rockets well before you ffs.

>>1623037
What hamster father is doing has already been done as well, we put people in underwater habitats with docking collars for submarines in the 70's. Does that mean hamster man should stop because we've already put people underwater, and in a better way?

>>1621734

Want to talk about that child rape conviction on your record? I got your old dox round about here somewhere. Guess I should update them.

Updated your web comic recently?

I guess I should pull your folder out of cold storage, I gotta hunt down the external hard drive. Got some updates to make.

>>1623043
His experiments present an interesting challenge physically, and really what he is trying to achieve, a modular underwater living space, has not been fully realised.

>>1623044
also is this true? I hope not cus I really like this dude content.

>>1623047
>never learned to separate art and artist
Don't be that fag.

>>1623050
You're right I guess but I'd prefer to not support him financially if he was an actual paedophile.

>>1623044

[Citation needed]

>>1623047
I don't want to overtly break the doxing rules here, but yes it's true. I have the proofs. I doubt he will address any of it, he tends to run away when anyone talks about it.

>>1623051
Hebaphile more like it. IIRC she was like 14 and he was early 20's. I'd have to dig out my old external hdd or redo the background check for Robert. His web comic also talked about how shit it was to be getting jobs or finding places to live whilst on the sexual deviants registry. Looks like that will suck for him, his latest video was talking about getting kicked out of his place because he kept pubes in the sink or some shit.

>>1623052
>[Citation needed]
I can't post much about Averill or 4chan will ban me for dox.

>>1623051
There is a justice system in effect for a reason. What you are suggesting is effectively the same as saying Louis C.K. is no longer allowed to work in his profession because he didn't apologize sincerely enough for non-criminal activity.

>>1623053
>Robert
It seems you have the wrong info, hamster father's name isn't robert

>>1623047
>>1623051

No, it isn't true. Proof here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/oh-boy-first-of-24475055

tl;dr you can search the relevant registries and public court/police records yourself, I'm not in them. The pics that were floating around of entries in said registries had my info and picture photoshopped onto them by doxxers. Most were Christians I upset by arguing about religion with them about 10 years ago.

This guy: >>1623044
follows me around trying to blackmail me. DESU I am not 100% sure it's the same guy, could be two or more. I don't know what gives anybody willing to pull such a stunt the impression I have a lot of money for the taking. I make just about enough to survive rn.

>>1623052
>[Citation needed]
This, those are pretty serious claims but I'd definitely cancel my subscription to his patreon if true.

Don't believe the lies, hamster father is pure, PURE!

>>1623053

>"he tends to run away when anyone talks about it. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
You don't make anything on the internet go away by fighting it. You wait it out. That has worked except for the occasional person who either doesn't know the claims are false or doesn't care seeing a chance to squeeze money out of a stranger.

>"he kept pubes in the sink"

Beard hairs. You keep doing this, adding embellishments to make it as embarrassing as you can. Why do you do this? What have I ever done to you? I am just trying to live.

>>1623060

See >>1623058
>>1623062

The info needed to search Oregon and Florida public court, police and sex offender registery records for anything on me is here >>1623057
and here >>1623054

You can confirm for yourself that the long list of accusations this guy >>1623044 has been spreading about me in the hopes that I'll pay him to stop are fraudulent.

>>1623063
The Oregon database only has ≈800 out of 30k offenders listed.

https://sexoffenders.oregon.gov/Faq

>>1623065

Is that also true of the Florida one? There's still court records to vindicate me.

>>1623058
Also I am none of these people your blog claims me to be, I am agnostic (well pastafarian) and I have never extorted anyone.

You are just someone from the past I remembered that I used to keep tabs on.

>>1623067
And what of the web comics which also admitted it?

>>1623069
[Citation needed]

>>1623068

I have no way to verify that. You, however, can easily verify that your claims about me are false. At any time you could access court records for Oregon or Florida and discover that your 'child rape conviction' is an invention of people that I angered over a decade ago.

>"And what of the web comics which also admitted it?"

TF are you talking about?

>>1623057
His birth name is not Bob.

>>1623071
You used to do a web comic, do you deny it?

>>1623074
durr

>>1623074

No? That wasn't the accusation. There are a lot of tasteless jokes in there. The fact that I made a comic about superman inflating a woman by blowing into her vagina does not mean that's something I've ever done.

Look, you have access to court records and all of my info. Do your due diligence. If you're going to go around defaming somebody, it's on you to first make sure your facts are legitimate.

Maybe you didn't invent those accusations yourself. Maybe you heard them secondhand and believed them. But it is easily within your power to find out if they are true or not.

The only reason you wouldn't bother is that either you're the guy I screenshotted trying to blackmail me https://www.patreon.com/posts/oh-boy-first-of-24475055

...or you're a sadist who enjoys having some small measure of power to make strangers suffer. If that's not you, then look into the basis of your accusations. It would take you only a few minutes.

I am not the person you've been led to believe I am. You have no idea the impact that being doxxed has had on my life. I was going to struggle anyways, this has made simply living that much harder.

Good fucking Lord I don't give a shit about all this garbage fucking post flying hamsters for fucks sake you little fucks.

>>1623077
Just spend the $5 for a cheap background check. Nothing in there but speeding, then one for not paying the ticket and a third for driving without a licence.

Could be that juvenile records were expunged but that would put you at at most 17 I would think.

Sorry for the trouble this has caused you. I'll email you a copy of the background check if you want it.

>>1623087

Sure. ichosehampture@gmail.com

Notice he stopped posting. He disappeared after pulling this same shit on Reddit the minute other users did their own background checks and found the same results you did. He swoops in, causes as much damage and confusion as he can, then yeets tf out as soon as people start actually looking into it. It's really frustrating. I just want to live my life.

>>1623088
Sent, check your spam folder for something from sharklasers

Nevermind, apparently the guy repeating the accusations is the same one who paid for the background check. He found fuck all, same as the last person to do it. I have gotten an apology now.

That counts for something I guess but it isn't much.

>>1623067
>Is that also true of the Florida one? There's still court records to vindicate me.
What do the records relate to?

>>1623098

See >>1623097

My only criminal records are for speeding. The accusations circulated about me by doxxers are pretty detailed and a list of them can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/oh-boy-first-of-24475055

Some are unfalsifiable by design so I can't disprove them but a couple are possible to investigate, because any conviction would've shown up in my criminal record and public court records.

>>1623085
This. Post aero hamsters

>>1623099
I know your secret about the stuff, hamster man, give me those dubs and I'll keep quiet

>>1623188
The hamster adventure god chi-moomoo has supplied thier avatar with the needed dubs. Blessed be.

>>1621724
Why not just leave the hamsters alone and kys nonce?

>>1621768
>https://www.patreon.com/hampture
He got funding. Unbelievable.

>>1623208
Why not just leave us alone and go fuck the hamsters nonce?

>>1621743
What episode of The Dick Show was he on?

What fascinating fucking life, although I guess it takes experiences outside the norm to make a man want to hamster colonize the sky

>>1623211
Metokur streamed about him a while ago so a lot of his fans went and poured money on it.

>>1623315

Buddy you don't know the half of it
http://psychedelicfrontier.com/underwater-tripping-5-hours-bottom-lake/

>>1621724
I advise using mylar balloons to hold the lifting gas, rubber balloons will leak too much, in addition to that, you should also armor the balloons to protect against debris, birds, and people shooting at them. I'd also look into FAA regulations to make sure that you don't do anything that could get you into legal trouble.

>>1621733
>>1621766
>>1622111
>>1622677
>>1623022
>>1623033
>>1623044
>>1623055
>>1623077
>>1623088
>>1623099
>>1623188
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>>1623411

No bully but the SPCA is tuned in, just so you know.

>>1623752
They don't care about rodents.

>>1623752

They're welcome to monitor my activities. If anything their inaction will reassure viewers that the hambros are being cared for properly.

>>1623236
Dick on Hampsters

>>1623411
My god dude you're a hoot and a half.
Are you legit autistic? I don't say this to wholly be a dick, just out of ignorance, but a lot of your old comics are really funny and I didnt know autists could work that way, I guess?

Also can't believe I never connected your art style to this comic, was one of the earliest things I read on /x/ (when /x/ was still good) and I loved it.

Why did you post a picture of your balls? What's with all the violence against women in those comics?
https://plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=49

>>1623010
>Max acceleration: 282 m/s^2
A bit under 29g. Somehow I doubt that calculation

>>1623010
>>1623952
A small rocket will totally do that and it will totally kill the occupant. Also his stability is kind of low.

>>1622860
Oh jesus, this is at trip. I never knew all of these were made by one dude... thank you hamster man, good luck with your endeavors.

>>1621731
Fuck. This is why i come here. Maybe 2 feet for induction and 2 velcro feet to hold er steady. Then full throttle to launch?

>>1621733
I must see pics

>>1621743
>the Dick show.

You what??

>>1621768
MADMAN. Someone call out the ameture rocket guys. Fuck sky Hamspers.

HAMSTER MOON COLONY WHEN!

>>1621768

>>1621868
Fuckoff retard hes making 11100mo off of trolling.

I for one commend him

>>1622173
>24/7 real time tracking of a 400 mile hamster trip by air.

>what did he see?
>on his magical magical trip?

>>1622941
Drone would be cool but a temporary fix could be a little pully system and a container of food or water with a renot opener

>>1623099
Damn, I wanted to share a project of mine online also but this stuff about people doxxing and spreading random accusations puts me off. How did you get doxxed anyway?

>>1623017
>strapping a small animal to a rocket
Didn't the Soviets already do this?

>>1623425
Nobody will see them after 5 minutes

>>1623940

Those aren't mine, they're from google image search. That's a common assumption, IDK why. As for violence against women, you could ask the same about orphans and owls.

>>1623934

Yes. Spergs have difficulty telling when other people are joking because of difficulty reading their intent, not because we don't understand humor. Glad you liked it.

>>1624022
>Didn't the Soviets already do this?
Pretty sure it was the Simpsons.

>>1623521
CZECH EM!

>>1623752
The ASPCA?

Those.. wait. Or was that PETA?

Anyway one of them will put it in a van and dome it before launch

>>1623913
U want sum dicks?

>>1624047
Then I will ask about orphans and owls, but really now, about like 1/5 of those comics either demean or actually damage a chick, then you have the complete lack of awareness to make this? https://plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=56

You can just say you find women inferior man, it doesn't mean much in a place like this

>>1624116

...That comic you linked has no women in it. You're fucking with me aren't you

>>1624116

I could, you're right it would go over well here. But I don't feel that way. Something tells me you're just fucking with me now.

>>1624116
In a perfect world, women would be equal to men
but this is not a perfect world

I don't mean to burst your bubble, as it were, Father of Hamsters, but we are experiencing a global shortage of helium. Turns out all those Chipmunk Holiday albums had rather horrific consequences. This leaves your plot for a Hampster Castle in the Sky at an impasse, I'm afraid. Luckily we here on /diy/ are actual no-joke super geniuses. Here are your options.

Option 1: Build a giant vacuum cleaner in orbit, then send it toward the sun. If you do it right, it should be able to harvest all the helium you need from the sun. If you successfully complete this option, you will probably stop caring about airborne rodents as every engineer on earth will be lined up to suck your tiny little pee-pee. You will also become richer than God.

Option 2. This is a good one. You're gonna have to generate a shit ton of hydrogen. Luckily, dihydrogen monoxide is far more plentiful on earth than helium, and all you need to do is apply a current to that shit to free the hydrogen from it's aqueous prison. Electrolysis they call it, I think. Okay. So now you're putting your hampsters to work, spinning turbines and generators and making that sweet sweet hydrogen. Easy, huh? Well, now you gotta put that hydrogen into something that makes those airborne rodents float. This might be the time to remind you of the Hindenburg. Don't let that disaster discourage you tho. Didn't I tell you that /diy/ is populated by genuine, no joke super geniuses? Check this shit out: PUT THE HYDROGEN INTO THOUSANDS OF PARTY BALLOONS. That way if one or two of them explode, you don't get a Hamsterburg. Extra points for using a durable material for your hydrogen balloons. I suggest hamster-shaped aluminum, or 3-d printed feline-shaped carbon nano-tubes if you're feeling cheeky.

Nevar forget that great men are not defined by their dreams, but by how much they can accomplish before they get shot by some no-fun-allowed beady-eyed little hater.

>>1624132
>>1624136
Interesting dodges. Since this isn't a fair world I guess that absolves you of all responsibility and sense in your dealings with women.

>>1624153
>Hamsterburg

>>1621724
Now this is just a transporting idea but you could add a small box to the bottom of the drone rich has a button on it, located at the bottom, this button would open a door but when the button is unpressed it would shut the door, so the idea would be, drone lands, door opens, hamster walks in, drone lift up, door closes, drone flys to hamture and lands on a platform, button activated, door opened

Maybe you could run a power cord through the tether and power rotors to keep it aloft? Would be cheaper than helium. I love your channel aswell, your electric bike is neat.

>>1621724
Ionic lifters are pretty cool. I've seen tenth graders build them and "Tesla antigravity UFO" will probably get you more internet money than "helium balloon".

I think somebody built one to carry a mouse at some point but there doesn't seem to be any record of it online anymore.

>>1621797
don't you mean Comstock?

>>1623023
If life is cruel
Then why intentionally add even more cruelty to it?
Isnt it bad enough already?

>>1622097
LET THE COLONY DROP. FUCK SYDNEY AND FUCK THE FEDERATION.

>>1621724
Hell yeah, buddy.

>>1624153
hydrogen escapes rubber quicker because smaller molecules. so he'd need to refill more often.

however this >>1624373 works for as long as it has an energy supply.

>>1623521
the thread is blessed by kek. it should be, it's pretty based.

>>1621724
>Lastly, is there a premade remote control payload release mechanism for drones,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nama3LGiDjY

how about this my dude?

>>1621724 (OP) #
>Lastly, is there a premade remote control payload release mechanism for drones,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nama3LGiDjY [Open]

how about this my dude?

If extended use of electric energy is an option (i.e. we're gonna be running a sizable battery bank) why not run a hair dryer into a hot air balloon? I feel that may be more energy efficient (and safe) for a ballast than running/refilling hydrogen into party balloons. It also has the advantage that you don't have to run several lines to an air tank. Personally I'd have a ring structure for your habitat (big plastic loop), with a central hot air balloon/power bank, and use electric motors to drive a series of propellers outside of the loop (stability/steering).

GDI HAMPTURE ANON,
YOUR TAKING SCIENCE TOO FAR!
HAMSTER SOCIETY IS NOT READY FOR THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY!

>>1621733
>invented the troll face?
hampture dude is Whynne???

>>1624373
How would you be able to generate enough power 24/7 to keep it running, though?

>>1624648
an.....uhhhh....generator?

>>1624266
In Britain it would be called Hamsterham.

>>1624656
That's going to be extremely heavy, anon, and also, how would it be refueled?

>>1624648
very long power chord.

>>1624634
Cerealguy not trollface. It's Bob Averill, aka Lego_Robot comics guy.

>>1622134
>Rent, utilities and food are not free where I live.
Totally irrelevant. That's not what you're being paid for on patreon.
If you were a company this would be considered embezzlement.

>>1624759
A company understands that its workers are paid a wage out of its operating budget.

>>1624762
That's different.
This is more like a companies CEO is using the profit to pay for personal things.

>>1624903
Or an employee being given a credit line with an expected per diem to cover their living expenses. He is not taking a specific wage from the funding and then taking more for luxuries. It is not different and in no way is there anything ethically wrong with it.

>>1624759
When you donate to a professional charitable organization usually less than 15% of the money goes feeding orphans, cancer research, or whatever else they say they do. The majority goes to operating expenses of the charity like paychecks for employees, advertising, and office rent. People usually get pissed off and call it a scam when they learn this but that's how donations always work.

>>1624747
>very long power chord.
How about a Cb5 held for 12 bars?

>>1624759
if it were kickstarter, yes. patreon no. read the fineprint.

>>1625296
Are you referring to using money for living expenses/wages or doing whatever the hell they want with the money?

>>1625354
Kickstarter has a guarantee policy. The creator starts by making a promise. The money must be spent exclusively on creating the promised good or service. You get exactly what is promised, or else they give you the money back. Period. Anything less is actionable.

Patreon, it's a subscription, but there's no legal guarantee, no enforcement, and no oversight, because each creator will have different reward tiers. Partially because it was explicitly created with helping creators pay their bills while still creating. As long as they're able to deliver their membership rewards to a quality that satisfies their subscribers, it doesn't matter what happens to the money. And if you aren't satisfied, all you can do is ask for a refund on your current month's pay (subject to creators approval, but appealable to Patreon, though you'd need a very solid case) and cancel your membership.

>>1625418
The point is that even kickstarter surely provisions for using the funded money to pay wages, though I imagine they require it be specifically and rigorously disclosed.

>>1625492
Kickstarter doesnt give a fuck, are you kidding? No product even needs to be delivered even to backers. The company takes all the money, works on the product until money runs out, declares bankruptcy and no one gets anything they were promised
Kickstarter is a huge fucking joke. If you dont get your patreon reward at least you're only out a couple bucks.

>>1625495
Why would you wait for >>1625492 to post that rather than replying to >>1625418 ?

>>1625495
>and no one gets anything they were promised
the fact you don't sue them for breach of contract is on you.

>>1625492
it counts as labor costs, and is reported as such.

This is the best thread I've seen on this board

>>1622860
>https://plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=63
>ms paint stick figures jerking off about dawkins
I always wondered who made these fucking retarded comics.

>>1624153
>hydrogen

>>1624153
Fucking right man.

Words to live by.

>saved

>>1624266
New name.

Project: Hamsterburg

>>1624348
Please do this. Ive been considering hanging a vinyl banner with 2 teathered predators

>>1624747
Could run a tiny silicone hose 3 miles long and run oxy-hydrogen generator. Use oxegen for something and seperate the hydrogen out and just plug it in on the ground. A good 220v generator would float a fat fuck like me prolly

>>1628256
LOL. i copied the wrong one.

>>1628261
>Use oxegen for something
supplying the hamsters, air gets thin up there

>>1628256
>>1628263
hah ah well that's my post

>>1628256
You do realize I was being sarcastic right anon?

Op, i'm assuming your balloon would be tethered? If so, how high are you planning on putting it, and are you planning on grounding it during high winds or storms?

As far as the release mechanism for the drones goes, it is pretty easy to bind servos to any extra channels you may have on your radio and you could always use one to release a latch holding a trapdoor closed on the bottom of a small section of pvc pipe or a small box. For hamster safety it may also help to install another camera and vtx facing downward to help land and safely release your payload.

>>1621724

Lego robot?

>>1623752
Gonna be pretty cool when they show up to Hamster Utopia and the Bioshock Infinite story ensues.

>>1624648
>>1624659
Ionic lifters always have the power supply on the ground and run electricity up to them through wires that also serve as tethers.