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Are cordless hammer drills (aka a drill with a hammer setting) a meme?

I have a real hammer drill. Is there any reason I should pay for a hammer switch on a cordless drill?

>> No.1621394

>>1621391
Do you like being able to work places that don’t have an outlet?

It’s not going to be an SDS hammer, but it should drill 1/2” and smaller holes into masonry just fine, especially if you’re doing a project around the home and need to hang out mount something to a concrete or brick exterior wall.

Also if you have a corded hammer drill, the cordless may be way nicer to use. Power companies haven’t updated their corded tools worth a damn if they have a cordless replacement, all of the innovation goes into the cordless tools because there’s a lot more money in it for them if they can sell you on a battery platform.

>> No.1621401

I never saw a point to hammer drills. They for me are a gimmick for the homeowner. Drill 5-6 holes at best before the tool gives out or just from user exhaustion.

If you need to drill in concrete or brick, get a rotary hammer. The ones from HF work excellently and cost less than a top of the line hammer drill from DeWalt, Makita, and Milwaukee.

>> No.1621406

>>1621401
That's what I was thinking.
I've drilled small holes in concrete with a non hammer drill and it worked fairly well, so as a "homeowner" I can still do small stuff without bringing out the large rotary hammer drill.

>> No.1621443

>>1621401
The 5-6 holes is often what homeowners need anyway, a decent hammer drill is normally enough.

Are you talking about the Bauer? Those tools look decent, like Ryobi or Porter Cable tier, but I would be nervous using that for any real work considering all of the dust it will be exposed to. I guess if a DIY homeowner has a project with a bunch of larger holes that need to be drilled in concrete, dropping <$100 on the HF tool might be a good buy considering it will only be really used for one job.

>>1621406
Kek. What kind of concrete? Just wait for it, one day you will need to drop 2 anchors into a real concrete wall and you will sit there drilling and drilling for half an hour and go absolutely nowhere and you will wish you spend the extra $30 on the hammer drill. Unless you already have an SDS hammer, then fuck if.

>> No.1621444

>>1621443
>Unless you already have an SDS
I do, dumbnigger

>> No.1621449

>>1621444
Checked

Then buy the regular drill and save your few dollhairs if you want, then drag out the SDS and extension cords whenever you need to drill one or two holes in concrete.

>> No.1621465

I got a cordless sds plus from ryobi and this has been great. I just cut a retaining wall brick to size to fit against my wall.

>> No.1621474

>>1621391
Theyre never gonna reach cordex power levels. That said they're good for little bitty holes, lifhtweight, and typically the best drill in their brand's lineup.

>> No.1621483

>>1621391
>>1621474
I own this exact drill and it is incredibly strong. I can mix 2 bags of concrete with it and I used it to set anchors in concrete for a fence. Then used it to countersink an ipe deck. Do buy great tool get a 60V battery though

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>>1621401
>I never saw a point to hammer drills.
It's for drilling concrete holes for tapcons.

>> No.1621530

>>1621500
Does tap on have a con-sert tool thing where it got a drill and driver integrated in one tool?

Work lets us order con-sert tools and screws and I order them exclusively to simplify my inventory .

We only do little bitty holes (telecom)
I put like 10 or 20 in a stucco house to secure various wires and small weather proof boxes.

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>>1621530
I googled it myself and it doesnt look as cool.

>> No.1621693

>>1621391
100% meme. If you don't ever drill into masonry/concrete/rock then you don't need the hammer function. If you regularly drill into those things, buy a real rotary hammer. If you have a one off project, rent a real rotary hammer. Hammer drills are slow as fuck and unpleasant to use.

>> No.1621792

>>1621693
I don’t think you realize how many homeowners need to drive in a couple of these >>1621500 every 6 months or year to hang a new hook in my garage or hanging a plant outside. It’s worthless using a regular drill and I’m not about to go rent an SDS hammer.

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>>1621391
Fuck noits not a meme. I've got the same one I think it's the 996 and it blows through 7-8 packed treated 2 by and 12 inch main beams like nothing. 7/8 bit and this battery will put you through god damn anything aside steel. Have a corded Milwaukee hole hog and between lugging the extension cord and the actual power behind it it's still not as good either
Worth every penny for sure

>> No.1621802

>>1621394
But no I wouldn't use it for masonry unless it's a cell you know for sure is hollow and no rebar or durawall in it. I've seen a guy break his jaw drilling a footing wall and hit a piece of 5bar the second he punched thru the block. It kicked inmediately full power into his face and he lost 4 teeth and was wired shut for weeks. Get a real gun for that. Hilti or bust. Buy Hilti bits too they are damn near invincible

>> No.1621806
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Bosch makes a decent one too I'd say but Hilti can't be topped

>> No.1621923

>>1621391
Only ever used one that was actually good. A now obsolete 18v Hitachi. Works half decent, all the others I've tried just gently vibrate.

>> No.1621937

>>1621792
> It’s worthless using a regular drill

No its not. Use a masonary bit and pull out clearing the dust, it works fine.
A homeowner can spend the 5 minutes to drill a hole instead of taking 1 minute with a hammer drill

I live in a brick house, ive used both, I know.

>> No.1622610

>>1621806
we're talking hammer drills, not rotary hammers.

>> No.1622665

>>1621391

Hammer drills are what they are, and they work fine for their purpose, whether corded or cordless. I have one of the Ryobi brushless drills, and, while it does what it says on the tin, I don't really use the hammer drill function much at all. Not because it doesn't work, it's just I have access to a rotary hammer, which completely outperforms any hammer drill in existence by a huge margin.

That being said, I DO still use it for odd things when it isn't worth borrowing the rotary hammer, so there is some value there. But if you know you're going to be drilling holes in concrete regularly, get one of the Harbor Freight rotary hammers. They're like $70 with the coupon. No amount of cord fuckery is going to cost more time and effort than snailing along with a hammer drill. Never even mind the fact that they simply don't have enough impact energy to drill holes much larger than 1/4" at a stretch.

Mind that soft masonry, like brick, cinderblock, anything without larger aggregate in it doesn't really even need a hammer drill. A regular drill (with a masonry bit, of course) works just fine on those. So if that's all youv'e got to deal with, you don't even need to worry about it in the first place.

>> No.1623960

>>1621391
These fuckers can drill through unhardened steel with a decent bit. They are for contract work though, you wouldn’t really need it for General home work.

>> No.1623963

>>1623960
>They are for contract work though, you wouldn’t really need it for General home work.
If you're not American you need a hammer drill just to be able to drill a hole in your wall.