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So i'm working on a 2012 buick regal ad the hub is completely seized. I have used a 4 pound sledge, as well as 2 people pulling on it with slider hammers, and used wd40 as well as PbBlaster. Any ideas on how to get the hub off? Its the rear driver side if it matters.

>> No.1605283

Does it have a few threaded holes drilled in it? Some rotors/hubs you can thread in a couple of bolts and tightening them down will force the hub upwards and break the rust that's locking it together.

>> No.1605284
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>>1605278

Does it look like pic related?

https://buickforums.com/forums/threads/regal-rear-wheel-bearing-failure.38292/

>> No.1605285

>>1605283
The only holes I can think of are the bolts we had to take out (3) to get to it. The pic is just for an idea. Is not my car. I have a 2012 Buick Regal Turbo

>> No.1605288

>>1605284
It's still completely on the axel. I should mention that my wife had been driving on it for about a month like that. Now it feels like it is seized. it will spin and the brake dust cover is moving, but the hub just wont come out.

>> No.1605292

>>1605284
But yes, that is the exact same part. But we do not have the space or room to do the bolt-hammer trick.

>> No.1605548
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1605548

Recently redid all the brakes on my 09 Honda Fit. Rear drums and front discs.

Your hub looks different than what I had to do. Truthfully it looks like you made a very big mistake. See in the center of that hub is a cover. You hit the sides with a screwdriver to knock off the cap. Then inside is a bolt with a locking pin.

>> No.1605552

>>1605278
remove rear end cover
remove 5/16 bolt in pumpkin
push in on axle and remove c-clip thats next to spider gear
remove axle

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>>1605548
Here is an example of what I mean.

>> No.1605574

>>1605548
>>1605554

after you've worked on more than one car you will learn that there are different designs, chief, and you're the one making a big mistake.

>> No.1605580

>>1605278
keep wacking it with the sledgehammer until is comes loose.

>> No.1605595
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>>1605548

OP's looks like this, and does not have the nut and cotter key like yours.

>> No.1605608

>>1605283
>>1605285
There may be larger threaded holes in the back where you remove the existing bolts and install larger diameter ones (in the same hole). Idk but most things are like this or like>>1605283 suggests. If not rig a puller with existing bolts on opposite side or put the wheel on and drop that fucker.

>> No.1605632

With stuck hubs like that the only thing I've ever had success with is taking the whole knuckle out and bashing the shit out of it with a hammer from the back side.

>> No.1605633
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>>1605632
I gotta do new bearings soon and it looks like you can buy just the bearings for cheap but lots of people do the whole assembly. Everything on the underside of my car has been a pain in the ass from living in the rust belt and then near the ocean so I’m seriously considering spending way more $$$ so I don’t have to deal with it.

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Pic related. Called a hub shocker

>> No.1605665

>>1605278
Rig a chain from it to the biggest truck you can get ahold of, then get a running head start.

Honestly though keep hitting it with the hammer and as hard as you can. It's always worked for me eventually.

>> No.1605685

>>1605278
heat

>> No.1605814

>>1605278
Why oh why are you removing the hub?
And I’ll bet it’s got a clip in the rear end somehow. For 34.95 Alldatadiy is close to a complete factory manual and will share the secrets of the universe concerning that car.

>> No.1605818

>>1605278
How stupid would it be if your wheels could be pulled out by hand. There’s no big bolt holding that wheel to the car there bo. That’s a bolted in axle tube Thank God.

>> No.1605820

>>1605552
>>1605814
>>1605818
The 2012 Regal is fwd, it doesn't have a rear differential. If you read the thread at all it's a 3 bolt hub assembly. OP is just a pussy.

>> No.1605821

>>1605814
>And I’ll bet it’s got a clip in the rear end somehow.

I take it you are not familiar with OP's type of hub, and you are too lazy to read the thread. Anyway, thanks for your worthless advice. It will come in handy some day when OP buys some other type of car.

>> No.1605826

Are you able to brace a pry bar or some other steel against the frame and use the power steering to push from the back? I don't deal with car repairs much but I have had great success doing it on solid front axle pickups. You just turn the hub against whatever you have braced to push it. On old and rusty trucks sometimes it takes a bit of heat.

>> No.1605829

>>1605826
No power steering in the rear

>> No.1605831 [DELETED] 

>>1605821
Yea, hub grappler. Not familiar with this one

>> No.1605832

>>1605821
Ok, looked like a possible rwd. Now for some real advice. Sometimes you could cut the old metal out of the way and use a chisel or air chisel between the bearing and knuckle. The tapered end will wedge it apart.

>> No.1606042

>>1605278
Heat it up. Also for difficult jobs, the best penetration fluid I've known is a mix of acetone and transmission fluid, obviously don't strike a match off it if you do that.

>> No.1606067

>>1605278
>I have used a 4 pound sledge

goddanm pussyass bitch, you need a 12 pound sledge for this reason.

go get a torch of some kind, I like MAPP gas, and a 12 pound sledge.

get that motherfucker red hot with the torch, shoot in some PB-blaster that will sizzle and wick in, give it 1 hard wail of a hit with the 12 pounder.

repeat if necessary.

>> No.1606139

>>1605640
SECOND THIS
Did you get it off yet? Support the suspension to take up the slack, suspension is absorbing the whacks.
2 smacks with the hub shocker (top then bottom) and it will be off

>> No.1606149
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>>1606067
Took the knuckle off a 2010 Jeep Compass with my little pink hammer

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>>1606149
Reminds me why I have a slide hammer like 1st on my Amazon wishlist. Was browsing them more today and there’s a handful of sets around $60 that look just like the HF set and some of them look decent for the garage, but then a Taiwanesium OTC set for $100 with really good reviews that might actually last through a dozen jobs.

>> No.1606208

>>1606162
>Reminds me why I have a slide hammer like 1st on my Amazon wishlist. Was browsing them more today and there’s a handful of sets around $60 that look just like the HF set and some of them look decent for the garage, but then a Taiwanesium OTC set for $100 with really good reviews that might actually last through a dozen jobs.

Honda actually requires using this tool to swap hubs on the Pilot and ridgeline. It took me over 2 hours with a sledge hammer and pry bars.

>> No.1606445

>>1606149
My buddy put a wheel bearing in his 350z. He watched a youtube video and figured it looked easy enough. I knew better and went along to watch and finish it when he got stuck, however that fucking wheel bearing fell out no problem after removing the bolts. And I mean fell, not a single strike from a hammer. Disappointed me slightly as I wanted to see him struggle more

>> No.1606449

>>1606445
>however that fucking wheel bearing fell out no problem after removing the bolts. And I mean fell, not a single strike from a hammer.


Same once happened when I was replacing the original OEM bearing hubs on a early 90's rusty and crusty Chrysler minivan, I was expecting the fight of my life.
Got the axle nut off and the 4 retaining bolts... the bearing hub just jumped off the CV and fell to the ground.
Surprised the piss out of me.

>> No.1606454

>>1605548
>caliper paint
cringe

>> No.1606459

>>1606449
>>1606445
Were the bearings crushed into powder? That’s what I would guess if it were that easy.

>> No.1606462

>>1606149
>pink tools
>jeep compass
post tits

>> No.1606469

>>1606459
>Were the bearings crushed into powder? That’s what I would guess if it were that easy.

On that Chrysler T&C the bearing rattled like an old coffee can filled with marbles and there were metal burrs everywhere.

>> No.1606532

pour a little brake fluid on it and let it sit overnight. brake fluid is surprisingly penetrating.

>> No.1606596

>>1605278
Silly question, but did you remove the bolts holding it on? Those four holes let you get to them. 4 bolts total

>> No.1606651

>>1605283
>>1605284
>>1606067
>>1606596
OP here. So after days of PbBlaster and snacking it nonstop for says with a mallet and sliding hammer, me and my friend decided to use a torch to heat the outside and throw ice packs inside to expand the outside and shrink the inside. It sounded ridiculous until it made it pop out within the first 20 hits.

>> No.1606697

Op have you tried hitting the hub like you aren't a faggot?

>> No.1606938

>>1606459
Actually the opposite on the z. He diagnosed it himself, but it wasn't the real issue. Bearing was totally fine, locked up caliper in the rear is what fucked him.

>> No.1607082

>>1606449
If the axel's clean and true and all that business it's often just a case of very little force at just the right angle, it's often better not to force it with smaller tools.

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>>1606462