/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Russian
Sites for Grammar
http://masterrussian.com/ - Lessons and vocabulary
http://www.russianlessons.net/ - Beginner lessons and the site I use for referencing basic grammar
http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/ - My favourite site for grammar, goes right from the basics to what you need to construct complex sentences. Great examples with sentences and exercises.
Dictionaries
wordreference.com - Already been mentioned, but usually has good explanations and examples
http://ru.thefreedictionary.com/ - A Russian-Russian dictionary that usually just gives synonyms, but still okay
http://slovari.yandex.ru/ - Yandex is pretty much the Russian Google. So yeah.
News
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/ - The BBC news in Russian. Articles usually get translated a few hours or a day after they appear in English.
http://www.pravda.ru/ - Pravda's still going, and pretty popular.
http://www.vesti.ru/ - Just a news site
http://ytro.ru/ - Just another one
http://lenta.ru/ - And another one
TV
http://itv.1tv.ru/ - Stream Russia's First Channel
http://www.1tv.ru/videoarchiver/ - Loads of full and free shows from First Channel's archive
rutracker.org - Download just about anything. Like, anything. In a forum format, so you can browse shows/films/music/comics and download at will.
http://www.internytv.ru/online.php - Watch Интерны online, it's kinda like a Russian Scrubs. Pretty funny.

JAPANESE

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http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/
It's a firefox module. Indispensable if you don't want to open a dictionary tab for each word you see.

MISC
http://www.wordreference.com/
another global dictionary I like.
http://www.memrise.com/home/
Flashcards. I like it better than Anki. Users can add a mnemonic for each word but it's often lame.

SPANISH

http://www.studyspanish.com/tutorial.htm
Almost everything you need to know on grammar.
http://www.youtube.com/user/languagenow
This motherfucker is a professional teacher, he will teach you about spanish AND portuguese.

http://www.spanishdict.com/dictionary
Best dictionary I came across so far, it contains a lot of idioms.

http://www.ctspanish.com/idioms/idioms.htm
http://www.languagerealm.com/spanish/spanishslang.php
Idioms and idioms and some slang.

>>13545
More JAPANESE

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete
Awesome guide on grammar.
http://www.nihongoresources.com/
The lessons are very heavy, but it has a dictionary. I use it to learn jouyou kanji!

http://jisho.org/kanji/
Will find the kanji you're looking for with kana and number of strokes.

http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japonais/Grammaire/Introduction
http://www.dictionnaire-japonais.com/rechercher.php
First one is a succinct grammar guide, second is a dictionary. Sorry it's in french but it can still be useful so I'll post them.

Got Finnish in there, somewhere?

>>13565
hold up

Finnish

http://www.digitaldialects.com/Finnish.htm

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/Finnish.html
website full of useful links

>>13565

Czech?

Anyone have good links to learn french that they can contribute

>>13613
I dont have that sorry

I can't stress how bad Rosetta Stone is for Japanese. It focuses on vocabulary before teaching you about any of the basics, be it grammar or the furigana. The first chapter is overloading and you're much better off buying a Japanese textbook and using Kanji-a-day.

Romanian?

anyone know of a good sign laguage program

MANDARIN CHINESE STUDENTS: nciku.com

If you're studying Mandarin, I cannot stress how epic this site is. I would be so screwed if I didn't have it.

Arabic?
And Icelandic?
And French - Intermediate?

FARSI?!

Lojban? anyone

lojban.org has the best learning materials for the language. There is the Lojban Reference Manual (basically for all your obscure questions and wonderings on the language and such) and "Lojban for Beginners", which is a good place to start. Use the flash card app "anki" for learning the vocabulary.When installed, search for "lojban" and download the most downloaded deck (the one on the top).

Italian

>>13748
thanks do you know this language? is it easy to learn

Rosetta Stone is not a good program. It boasts using immersion techniques without teaching you grammar lessons so you can learn the same way a baby would learn the language, but if Japanese babies spent an hour or two a day listening to Japanese and the rest of the day listening to English, they'd speak English. Rosetta Stone is only so widely known due to their extensive marketing. You'd be much better off with a good textbook than Rosetta Stone.

I'm a serious fucking procrastinator who never seems to finish learning anything. But I'm very familiar with the basic concepts of the language. Its about as easy to learn as a computer programming language. Certainly easier than a natural language of course.

What are some great sources for learning Irish Gaelic.

Oops, the >>13790 post was me talking about lojban in response to your post>>13756

This is my first time posting on 4chan, I usually just lurk.

Er, I meant >>13791 not 90 (>.<)

I've got to stop doing multiple things at once......

>>13832
>>13826
Motherofgod.gif
you went full retarted

I really doubt there is, but any resources for Yiddish would be appreciated.

>>13837

I did (T.T)

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Any contributors with any good source for learning languages?

There is also a site with a lot of materials, like basic grammar PDFs or sagas and tales for quite a few languages, but I forgot its name. Something with 'uzbek scanlations/translations', if I recall correctly.

Does anybody know that one?

I can't decide what language I should try to learn for a second language.

Is Spanish a good idea?

Any way to learn a language well enough to sound to a trained ear like a native speaker? Like how do we teach people for undercover shit? Or is that just a myth and we just find people who are already native speakers?

>>13790
rosetta stone is like a program from the 90's that belongs in a freeware bin, but it has a solid gold advertising program, and an attractive UI that can be enticing.

>I torrented it to check it out, basically garbage.

>>13952
Yea, and after you learn Spanish it'll be easy to catch on to some european languages

>>13956
Huh, i don't understand you

>>13952
Depends on where you live and what your motivation for learning it is.

If your learning a language just because someone told you that you should, you probably won't get far learning it. You should have goals and uses in mind.

(pic unrelated)

>>13952
If you live in the US, it's the most useful second language to learn.

Any resources for Sign Language?

>>13973
Like, let's say I want to learn Russian but sound like I'm a native speaker. Like the trope in spy movies where the American spy speaks in perfect Russian and plays his role as a double agent before revealing that he is AN AMERICAN SPY!!!

>>13981
>>13977

Well, I'm in Australia, but I plan on spending some time in the US soon, and I've always wanted to travel to South America.

Thing is, I doubt my plans for a career will ever require me to learn another language, so it's really just for fun, I suppose. I guess Chinese would be useful, as they're rapidly growing trading partners, but the language doesn't exactly enthral me.

>>14009
Yup, i think Spanish is the second most used language in USA so it'll be good to know Spanish especially if you want to visit a high population Hispanic area like Los Angeles

>>14024
i shit you not, but live in Los Angeles, and i speak more Spanish than English in one day.

>>13627
This

>>14054
>>14024
these posts are true
>but
learning a language should have more reason behind it than "a lot of people speak it" you need to need to learn it, or at least feel a need to learn it, for whatever reason that is. it can be simple, like wanting to watch naruto without the subs covering their naked child bodies, or wanting to learn italian so you can talk to your grandparents.

Anyone know any good Japanese Learning/studying textbooks?

>>14072
this
>>13545
>>13562

>>13995
I'd like to know how to do that as well. I'm studying Mandarin though which is a tonal language, so I wonder if that will make getting the accent right even harder. :\

I guess the only good way will be to spend a lot of time speaking and listening to native speakers.

>>14071
Is wanting to learn German just so I can post on KC dumb?

well i found this website very useful.
you can make an account and it has courses, exercises and audio. many languages available to learn and for free.
http://www.livemocha.com/

>>14086
not if you have a true desire.

In the end learning a language is a great thing to do, no matter the reason, but getting there is easier said than done and the stronger your motivation the better.

I've been using smart.fm but it's $10 a month.

any Latin resources? I took it in high school, but that was a little over a decade ago and I'm rusty.

>>13995
>>14084
Well good luck Russian is one of the harder languages. I'm glad it was the first language I learned otherwise I'd not even bother learning it. I would advise you to watch some old russian movies since watching anything new made in russia just might get you brain cancer. And I don't know any non-russian actors who don't sound like retards in movies. Once you learn it though you'll have a language with one of the biggest collection of swears on the planet. I once read a russian swear word dictionary, it was 10 years old , 456 pages thick and extremely hilarious.

>>15074
more of that meme

---KOREAN---

http://www.learnkoreanlanguage.com - General lessons and hangul for beginners

http://talktomeinkorean.com/ - Lessons and culture from beginner to advanced

http://www.learnkorean.com/ - More general lessons, good for beginners

---JAPANESE---

http://www.geocities.jp/mutasanjp/ - Kokugo Worksheets for Japanese elementary school students, good for intermediate learners of Japanese

http://www.geocities.jp/leeobasan/index.html - More Kokugo Worksheets, science, culture and Japanese style home-schooling worksheets, also has some beginner lessons for English speakers

http://www.coscom.co.jp/index.html - Great website for reading practice, has new articles up every day in japanese for news and weather with vocabulary and kanji readings so you can read the news that real Japanese people are reading and get used to the words you'll see on the news

http://kanjidamage.com/ - Fantastic site to learn how to read kanji

---MANDARIN CHINESE---

http://chinasprout.com/ - Amazing store with tons of textbooks, games etc for learning chinese language. Most books have the option to choose between simplified and traditional characters as well. If you need to order a chinese textbook, I recommend buying from here.

http://www.chinese4kids.net/ - Good site, has cartoons, lessons and activities. Aimed at kids, but it's suitable for beginners as well.


Picture is Korean Alphabet, enjoy!

>>13992
Which version of sign language? British and American Sign Language are completely different.

>>13790
It doesn't work because there's a critical period for language acquisition that ends at around puberty. After that you can be fluent, but you'll never be as good as a native speaker and you HAVE TO STUDY. Immersion does help fluency, but that alone can't teach you to speak a language well.

>>13956
Depends on the person. Some people can sound like native speakers once they become fluent, I know I've heard non-native speakers of English that sound like native speakers. However, a fluent speaker still doesn't equal a native one, so if you talked to a really good fluent speaker for a while they'd eventually make errors, even if they're hard to notice. Errors also compound in second languages when you're mentally incapacitated (tired, drunk, high, etc). For undercover people I assume they get them good enough that the small number of errors they may make will be assumed to be some sort of dialectal difference or idiosyncrasy instead.

>>15401
False. I my math professor in highschool learned English in his 20's, and he was 50. his accent was non existant, and knew morre grammar and had a larger vocabulary than half the students

>>15446
I'm a linguistics major, and I've learned that there are important differences in how an L1 (native language) is processed compared to an L2 (second language). As I said someone can be highly fluent and nigh indistinguishable from a native speaker with their L2 if they're good at languages, but they're still more prone to error and there are subtle differences in their L2 abilities from a native speaker. This paper talks about a delay in naming objects for L2 speakers: http://pubman.mpdl.mpg.de/pubman/item/escidoc:102687:8/component/escidoc:1051595/Hanulova_2011_Where
%20does%20the%20delay%20in%20L2%20picture_Lang_Cogn_Proc.pdf

You also have to understand the most significant, basic part of a language isn't vocabulary, it's stuff at the phonemic-syntactic level. I don't doubt your professor doesn't have a noticeable accent, but if he were tired or perhaps in a more lax environment it would likely start to show. He may even have errors you don't notice because they aren't phonemically significant to english speakers.

As for the grammar, he had to study it and likely understands it better than native speakers on an intellectual level, but those speakers understand it fast and unconsciously while his brain has to grind more gears in the background for him to create grammatical English sentences.

German plz

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Does anybody know of a torrent of Rosetta Stone Japanese that I don't have to burn onto a disk?

>>15567
Well my mother tongue is Turkish but I've been studying English for 6 years, 2 of those years was in an American school. I usually have a hard time having an intellectual conversation in Turkish because English words come up to my brain rather than Turkish. I believe that it's because I learned most of the words in English -without a Turkish equivalent-, as would a native speaker. Any comments on this?

>>15639
Why not iso + daemon tools?

>>13627
thirding a request for this.
I picked up My French Coach for DS for a few bucks last week, and it's not that terrible, but it's not good either.

>>13790
Actually, taking a basic course in the language and THEN using Rosetta Stone is a great way to learn a language. But it's a terrible way if you don't know the basics.

What language should I learn next?

I already speak English (obviously), Spanish, and Japanese.

I was thinking German, Russian, or Arabic, but I can't decide. I'm a little drawn to German because I wouldn't have to learn another set of characters (I need a break from doing that with Japanese), but it isn't really a deal breaker.

Any input?

>>15323
American Sign Language

>>15644

I didn't realize daemon tools existed. Thanks anon, I'll try it out.

>>15706
daemon tools is shitty bloat and has been confirmed to include malware

use virtual clonedrive

>>15642
You're basically correct. This book on psycholinguistics talks about it somewhat: http://books.google.com/books?id=8rPPFGFW0aYC&lpg=PA215&ots=fFRkJrUzgM&dq=psycholinguist
ics%20l2&pg=PA212#v=onepage&q&f=false

Usually you would have English and Turkish mutually associated to intellectual concepts and English-Turkish word pairs relating to those concepts. You just have English associated to intellectual concepts and an English list of vocabulary, so you have a tough time using Turkish for intellectual stuff. The phenomenon is more broadly found in science and technology, where you have people writing papers in English because they never learned how to discuss their fields in their native language.

>>15720
Thanks for the informative reply.

Got anything on learning Norwegian?

>>15682
I'd say German, because it's more similar to English than Russian and Arabic. It's quite a nice language actually, and it's probably not that hard to learn.

Well, at least for me it wasn't.

Nice, tHnaks

i've spent maybe 2 years researching the best ways to learn a language quickly from people who have actually become fluent. in my opinion the best method is to mimic how a baby learns...good write up at www.alljapaneseallthetime.com (applies to any language)

when i started using the method on that website i learnt more in 1 month then i learn the previous year, no joke.

Klingon resources please.

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More Japanese.

>>15812
I have some problems with that site. For instance, in this he states that grammar is made up, and while it is true that prescriptive grammar is by and large bullshit, descriptive grammar DOES exist. When I say that in English that in general a plural ends with an -s, I am stating a statistical fact about the language. That is what actual working grammar for a native speaker, inferences made on the statistical distributions of patterns; we don't need to give names to tenses and persons and such to know how they're used.

But in studying language, both linguistically and in learning a specific one, it's important to understand what we're dealing with. You don't need to necessarily need to know what the transitive verb is, but you need to understand that some verbs can take objects and others cannot. For some using vocabulary like transitive and pluperfect and such helps, for others it doesn't. Saying stuff, like he says, that "there are no cases in Finnish" ignores that there is an easily identifiable pattern within the language that we can use to understand it more easily.

For all the folks looking into Icelandic;
http://icelandiconline.is/

Great website that goes over the basics, and is generally a great resource for learning the language. Some institutes have adopted it as an acceptable prerequisite for more advanced courses, and it is also helpful with Old Norse.

Other useful Icelandic links;
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/IcelOnline/Search.TEId.html
>Free online Icelandic dictionary. You tend to search by headwords, but it can check the entire entry as well, which is useful for common phrases with particular declensions

bin.arnastofnun.is/
>Free declension database. Put in the word you want, select the box marked "Leit að beygingarmynd" so that it searches the entire entry in case you're trying to figure out the head-word, and then go. You need to know the category, and it's only in Icelandic (learn that vocabulary!), but it's useful.

I also have an Old Norse textbook on my computer, but it's a terrible, terrible book, and I've only used it because it gets you reading texts quickly.

Hope this shit helps out anyone looking into Icelandic. Very good language to get into, and it really forces you to think about what you're saying.

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good resources for french anyone?

Rosetta stone is okay, but only for basic learning. Definitely not worth buying. Does anyone here use livemocha? It's one of my favorites

thanks OP and the rest for links

>>16997
What about for getting started and then going forth to other things?

>>17070
There are lots of cheaper options. It's good if you can somehow get a free legal-ish copy of it, but it's not worth $150+

>>13528
I just torrented Japanese Pimsleur on Saturday, it's really good man.

>>16997

livemocha is ass. they just throw vocab words at you like it's an elementary school spelling test.

>>17108
Yah, I admit they do. I still like it, but I wish that they could actually provide some explanation for grammatical concepts.

britfag here
any guides on learning american?

>>17105
Yea it is i got the french version it pretty good

/r/ing French and/or German plz

How can someone request a board to Sigo­urney

>>17146
dat image

every bodies russian.

I haven't read through the whole thread yet but I want to mention Mango Languages.

It's the best program I've ever found for language learning, and you can get it for free because they work with public libraries; all you need is a library card with a library who has Mango and you can access it online. There is probably a version of it you can buy, or maybe a version of it you can use for free even without a library card...But anyway, it's a great program for introducing yourself to a language and getting a handle on the basics. I've only seen a little bit of Rosetta Stone but I really think it's pretty lame compared to mango, and wayyyyyyy overpriced.

Are there any more decent Korean resources other than the three websites posted?

Lots of great resources in this thread. Bumping it up so I can copy a few down when I get home.

is learning a language through audio tapes feasible?

>>13562
Jisho.org is probably one of the better dictionaries out there.

>>15074
>I would advise you to watch some old russian movies since watching anything new made in russia just might get you brain cancer.

I watched The Irony of Fate in my russian culture class, and I thought it was pretty good...then we watched the sequel.

What the fuck?

also I hear they're making a new sherlock holmes film series in russia, after that perfect one from the 70's/80's....>mfw

>>17162
I have a few other mindfuck images. I'll dump a few while I wait for a response.

Is there a good Danish or Norwegian dictionary to English? Google Translate is never accurate and Wiktionary doesn't have that many words in it.

Oh! And while I'm thinking about it, are there any resources for Irish (Gaelic)?

Uploaded some main points of this thread into a .txt if anyone is interested. If more is added I will try add to the .txt
Tell me if I forgot something major.

http://www.mediafire.com/?45puffr3rbba45x

Look at this crosseyed so you make 3 images and focus on the center one.

Anybody have French or German links?

Any French guides? tips? tricks?

Danish, anyone? I've got a few friends that speak it online and i'd like to learn it myself.

>>17215
IT HAS GLORIOUS WEAPON OF SERGEI MOSIN. PROBABLY WEAPON OF LEON NAGANT AS WELL. IS WONDERFUL TO SEE SUCH GLORIOUS WEAPONS IN SILVER SCREEN, DA?

Honestly, though, I'm hoping that we get to see Pfsr. Moriarty's Babbage engine. And if you want a good film with Russian language in it... Idi i smotri is your film.

>>17281

Double on this. I'm taking my French 201 Intermediate and would like more tips in pronouncing and speech. While I'm pretty well in writing and grammar I still find it difficult to create conversations with fellow classmates.

>>17362
ahh thank you for the film recommendation!

>I'm hoping that we get to see Pfsr. Moriarty's Babbage engine

hold up, moriarty has a babbage engine? since when? I don't remember reading about that in the books...really?

I really don't know much about this new series, actually, I was just assuming it would be bad, haha. But there isn't much information about it in English that I can find, and I don't know Russian.

direct me to some serbo-croatian?

>>17666
Enjoy the film. When the PTSD starts, don't worry, that's normal.

>mfw this thread

Any more Korean links?

>>17666
I'd heard a rumor that there was one in the upcoming film.

Bumping for some french resources

any of you guys polyglots?

any south Asian ones?

I don't recommend Rosetta Stone.

I spent a few weeks on the first Unit, after 4 chapters. It was 4 chapters of "This is the number 4. This is the number 5. This is blue. This is green" and I passed everything in the 95-100% mark.

All of a sudden, I'm hit with a test where I have to talk to people and ask for help in some kind of pseudo survival situation and the program taught me nothing. It's great at making you remember words, but I don't have a fucking clue what the language's rules are, and none of it translated into reality.

>>18659
That's why you figure them out on your own, you look at the context in which it's used in, find out the general meaning of the sentence and then put the pieces in place. This is how people were able to translate egyptian shit.

>>18603
i speak 4 languages well enough to have a casual conversation or read stuff on the internet, does that count?

Taking 12 credits of German over the summer, because I hate Modern Language and want to just get it over with at once.
Anyone got any good guides?

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Any Arabic resources?

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I can't believe no one's brought up podcasts...
if you're learning Mandarin, there's a great one by a guy named Serj Melnyk.
>learn Chinese through english lessons with a Russian accent

Bump out of gratitude.

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>>13528
> /lang/ board
We have one, it's called /int/ and /trv/

>>20119
I know the one in >>>/int/ is shit. Not a lot of people go in there, and the people who do hardly ever post

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General resources I've stumbled upon:

http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-hacking-guide/

http://www.polyglotproject.com/

http://www.ielanguages.com/

>>20975
thanks

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I'm using Rosetta Stone to learn Italian. Will the software suffice or do I need something else here?

>>21249

Try Pimsleur am using it for french and i find it way better the Rosetta Stone

any good resources for tagalog?

also for french:
http://leconjugueur.com is great for learning verb tenses

>>21274
Why the fuck would you want to learn that?

>>21284
why not, bro

what about english? I want improve my grammar

>>21297
same here lol my grammar is horrible

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6052159/Pimsleur_Tagalog_MP3_Reading

>>21330
salamat po

>>21335

Walang anuman :)

>>13748
Holy fuck, the massive nerd in me demands that I learn this.

>>15567
>acting like linguistic theories are anywhere near the truth
I doubt you can find a field with more flip-flopping in their theories.

Is it a good idea to learn moree then one language at the same time?
I heard it was but im not sure

If you guys feel like buying (inb4 HAHAHAHA) a decent audio program, try and have a look at Assimil. The French program is very comprehensive, but other European languages like German and Italian are pretty good as well.

Find a PDF of this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Learn-Any-Language-Inexpensively/dp/0806512717

Skip the self-promoting biography bullshit and jump straight to the methodologies.

>>21544
Forgot to mention that Assimil program contains a workbook and a bunch of CDs so if you're going to torrent it make sure you get both.

I've used the German + Italian in English and I find it pretty good. If you're French, the original [language goes here] in French is even better, or at least that's what I've heard.

>>21544
found a torrent for it lol

>>21516
Wouldn't that make you confused? You know, like mixing up words from 2 different languages. I think it's best to focus on one for 3 months or so and move on to the next.

>>13957
An OVERPRICED piece of garbage, you mean.

They claim that the CIA, NSA and the US Armed Forces use their software. Now I understand why these agencies have trouble getting shit done overseas.

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Any one got anything on Pular or Wolof?

>going to take a wild guess that it's a no but desperate hope anyways.

Bump.

Requesting some resources for German.

>>21862
dont know many but
german.about.com/ is good in my opinion

Old English:

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oe_clarkhall_about.html

http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/resources/IOE/index.html

http://www.etymonline.com/

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page

http://www.oldenglishtranslator.co.uk/

http://hord.ca/projects/eow/

http://wordhord.org/nasb/

Contrary to popular belief, I don't believe that Old English people pronounced the second letter in a word the way we think.
Nobody pronounces the "e" in "like", do they?
If you do a comparitive study of Western Germanic languages, you will see the inconsistency of Otto Jeperson's work in understanding the great vowel shift. In the first part of English history, we used to be a runic language; over a period of time, we switched from runes to their Latin counterparts. (Note: we did not use the Latin rules for writing Old English, just the alphabet); and eventually the Norman invaded and gave us a completely new setup.
Mainly, the only reason that people mistake words for sounding that way, was because the Anglo Saxons wrote in a Scandinavian way; consider Anglo saxon a west Germanic language written in Icelandic, but pronounced in English.

Those are really good sources btw.

>>21895
Sorry dont mean to be stupid what the difference in old english?

>>21903

Old English, not to be confused with Early modern English.

An example in Old English:
'Beon þu hine mid, ond heold his swin'

Early Modern English:
Be thou with him, and hold his swine.

Modern English:
Be with him, and keep his pigs.

>>21862

for german: http://deutschkurse.dw-world.de/KursPlattform/WebObjects/KursPlattform.woa/wa/UAAuthDA/auth?par=G5n9
hc0PUIqm93qsNXWNH45V0

yet to have a look at it myself, but it comes highly recommended. Cba to tidy up the link

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>>15710
Liar.

Swedish please?

bumping for swedish please

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This thread should be archived!

Bumping, I'm looking for resources for Udmurt or Mongolian.

>>13528
Requesting Korean pleasse

>>24225
Talk to me in Korean is literally the best resource online. Unfortunately there's a lack of resources.

Try library.nu for Korean books. A great one is called "My Korean 1".

I download Pimpsleur to learn Italian and it a pretty good program

>>22257
requesting arabic as well

Does anyone have Icelandic material?
Also I could help if anyone is learning Portuguese, as it is my mother language.

FSI Language courses (I think they're from the coldwar): http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php

>>26098
I know Spanish very well, would learning Portuguese be easy for me? I've heard some conversations in Portuguese and a lot of the words sound like there in Spanish.

>>26143
I'm fluent in Spanish (learned it from an immersion school starting from preschool, so not a native speaker but I've been at it since I was a kid)

and I can read quiet a bit of Portuguese. A friend of mine would bring her books in all the time (she was from Brazil) and I would challenge myself to read the back of them and see how much of it I could make out, surprisingly I could get a lot of it.

They say you know one latin language the others come easy, though I will say that I tend to mix up my Spanish and Italian all the time...

>>26131
>>26131

Here are the languages in the FSI courses:


Amharic
Arabic
Bulgarian
Cambodian
Cantonese
Chinese
Chinyanja
Czech
Finnish
French
Fula
German
Greek
Hausa
Hebrew
Hindi
Hungarian
Igbo
Italian
Japanese
Kirundi
Kituba
Korean
Lao
Lingala
Luganda
Moré
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Serbo-Croatian
Shona
Sinhala
Spanish
Swahili
Swedish
Tagalog
Thai
Turkish
Twi
Vietnamese
Yoruba

http://www.learnoasis.com/

not sure if this has been posted yet

Is the google translator accurate?

>>27041

Some languages are quite accurate, but others can be translated to absolute shit.

>>27041

I'd say, as a word by word translator, than possibly, but not as a whole sentence translator.

Assimil > all other language resources

An English question: Is there a difference in pronunciation of "two" and "to"? What about "penis" and "pennys"? And "three" and "tree"?

>>27810

>two and to
no
>penis and pennys
YES. Penis = PEE-NIS. Pennies or Penny's = PEH-NEES
>three and tree
Yes. Three has a pronounced "TH" sound. Tree doesn't.

>>27813
Oh thanks!

So in PEE-NIS the "PEE" is like the pee meaning urine?

Any good sites for learning French?

Anyone have resources for Dutch?

>>26181
>>26131
These look pretty helpful.

Hope an archive site sets up a spot for /diy/ soon, there are so many good threads on here...

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I can contribute with music in spanish from a lot of genres, also movies and stuff like that. Just ask what you want, it helps a lot.

JAPANESE

Grammar books are your friend. These books all have English explanations, and will give you all the information you need for a decent understanding of Japanese. I've picked up scans of all of them through torrents, just look around.

A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar - Seiichi Makino and Michio Tsutsui
A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar - Seiichi Makino and Michio Tsutsui
A Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar - Seiichi Makino and Michio Tsutsui
The Handbook of Japanese Adverbs and Adjectives - Taeko Kimiya
The Japanese Particle Workbook - Taeko Kimiya

This one is in all Japanese, and that's the Nihongo Bunkei Jiten (also called the Nihongo Bunkei Ziten, if you like that sort of romanization). It's got more grammar than you can handle and lots of example sentences.

>>13806
There aren't a lot of great Irish language resources online (and they hate it when you say "Irish Gaelic", btw. Irish is Irish. The Scots speak Gaelic. In Irish, Irish is "Gaeilge".). There are some very nice books, though. Buntus Cainte (which has cds as well) and Progress in Irish are great for beginners.

If you can ever afford it, go back and buy Rosetta Stone stuff that you've used to get ahead. Yes, it's super expensive. Rosetta Stone has high costs in development and trying to explain to retards how this works.

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>>28437
>>28437
PROTIP. I'm Irish, our language is both fucking retarded, and stupidly difficult to learn if you want to be fluent. Unless you're Yu Ming. Look up "Yu Ming Is Ainm Dom" on youtube. Great short movie. However, i will say this. It's not that there aren't many Irish Language resources.. it's that there are none. Our schools BARELY teach irish, who online would you expect to take on this task? If you'd like to learn Irish, Go to Connemara. Simple As.

attn: nerds

Anglish:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_linguistic_purism
http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Headside

>>29692
I wonder if Irish is as fucked up as Portuguese...

>>29706
>Banded Folkdoms of Americksland

lol

>>29692
That movie was awesome

I pastebinned a ton of this material for archival purposes, here's a link:

http://pastebin.com/zrniYBGU

I only included linked resources and various useful tips, not random chatter. Enjoy!

>>30045
Dude, nice.

Seems like there's a lack of french and Italian Resources. Anyone have any?

http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/a/verlan.htm

had to learn it when I was taking french, it might help someone

>>13528
Pimsleur is way better then Rosseta Stone

Is Tagalog an easy language to learn

>>31325

Actually, yes. I'm Filipino and a lot of my American friends can now talk Tagalog. It's very easy but you'd learn faster with a friend.

>>31693
Is Tagalog the same language that pronounces the number exactly like in Spanish Uno, Dos....

>>31707

Kind of, but we can also use Isa, Dalawa, Tatlo.

But there are a lot of similar words from the Spanish language. 300 years of Spanish reign after all.

>>31737
I'm trying to learn french right now ill probably try tagalog too

Anyone have American sign language? Or braille

Latin please?

>>31757
braille is easily Googled. ASL is all about the vocabulary, which can be learned word by word on YouTube. also, there was a telecourse years ago that aired on PBS-U (over the satellite) if I remember the channel correctly.

I can't believe http://lernu.net hasn't been mentioned yet - it's fucking great for learning Esperanto.

What's the best way to go about learning cantonese? Should I just study the FSI guide or does anyone have better suggestions?

JAPANESE

For grammar:
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/


For kanji:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembering_the_kanji - Remembering the Kanji books, aka RTK, mainly the first one. Not everybody likes it, but definitely worth checking out. Pirate bay should have torrents for the books.

http://kanji.koohii.com/ - Reviewing the Kanji, a site built by the community to assist with studying kanji using the methods presented in RTK books. Also has great forums with lots of useful information about studying japanese.


For general language studying:
http://ankisrs.net/ - Anki, an SRS software. VERY useful for learning any language.

Japanese seems a popular one in this thread, wont post links to material but this blog http://alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/ is pretty cool, you wont learn any Japanese on it (unless you sign up for his course, it's $2 a day or something and he promises fluency in 595 days or money back) but there are tonnes of pages with techniques for language aquisition, from specific exercises to motivation to mental conditioning and even tips on how your life style and daily routine could be changed to better facilitate learning a language.

Loads of the stuff written on there applies to learning any language. Really worth a read. Although you may find yourself spending an entire night just reading and getting motivated when you could be actually, you know, learning the language.

Ancient Greek is really kicking my ass and making me depressed. Does anyone know of a place to practice its grammar and technical aspects? Attic specifically. I've got a lot of flashcards for the vocab already....

>That feel when you want to learn slovakian but there are no courses where you live (Australia) ;_;

Is german really as easy as people say it is when english is your native language?

How do you pronounce italiano?
Does it have an L sound at the beginning?

>>32632
>Does it have an L sound at the beginning?
wut? That may be an article (L')
anyway it is something like
eee-tah-yhl (gl is not like "globe", but with soft G)- a (like hat) - no (without the "u" sound at the end)

>>31962
>>15812

>>32649
Oh am using Pimsleur to learn Italian and I keep hearing him say it with the L. Thanks

Realllllly looking for Dutch/Danish resources and courses, because I'm going to Denmark and the Nederlands to visit the places my ancestors came from. It would mean a lot to me.

I've only used Rosetta Stone for French and it was shit. It was teaching me what boys, girls, male, female etc is in French. Clearly not one of the first things I wanna be learning when I learn a language.

>>32765
Have you tried Pimsleur? I like it a lot better

Carnegie melon univ. has an online site and inside it has two levels of french classes for free. All materials included with links to hundreds of helpful sites.
You are welcome amigos.

>>32808
Thanks
http://oli.web.cmu.edu/openlearning/forstudents/freecourses/french

jesus fucking fuck i love this board. best thing that happened to 4chan in years

>>15948
This one is awesome dude, thanks.

>>32211
Yes and no. You can get the meaning of many words by looking at the english counterparts, as large parts of the vocabulary are similiar, but the pronounciation and parts of the grammar (I'm talking der, dis, das here) are pretty different.Also, there are four additional letters, though these aren't difficult at all, I suppose. As German native speaker didn't have that much problems with English, either.

So oder so, viel Erfolg.

I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but http://lang-8.com/ is good for all language learning. You can practice writing posts in your target language so that native speakers can correct you (and vice versa). It's a good way to make friends in other countries.
Also, http://rhinospike.com/ can be useful, because you can post some text in another language in hopes that a native speaker may read and upload a recording for you. The requests can be as small as one word, or as long as an essay, it just depends on whether or not someone will feel it's worth their time to read it for you. It's been pretty useful to me, but I've only asked for single words at a time. You can also designate which dialect you'd like to hear it in.

Anyone have a good method for diy language learning? I mean beyond Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone, I'm talking learning to fluency. Personally, I've been learning Japanese for almost 2 years now, and I wasted a lot of time doing the sentence method that AJATT and others emphasize. The returns sort of dropped off after about 1,000 cards and I realized that I wasn't retaining the vocab, just memorizing the sentence. Vocab in an SRS with example sentences as a supplement seems to work better for me. Does anybody else have any specific methods that work (or haven't worked)?

Since I'm a native German speaker, I have no clue what would be suitable for beginners. Here are two tools I use though. These are NOT language courses and they are probably not suited for total beginners:

http://canoo.net/
A very grammatically oriented online dictionary. For each word they list all the declinations and different forms and exceptions and shit. They have all the grammatical rules of course (interlinked too), though they are not really formated for learning, rather than looking up or reading a comprehensive list. Also: For advanced questions they have one of the best blogs on the web. If you know basic German but there is just something bugging you, some strange inconsistency, something that seems illogical to you, you can ask their linguist expert (search the blog first - they have an amazing archive of pretty much all the strange and difficult things about German).

http://dict.leo.org/
Pretty sure this is the best English <> German translation dictionary out there.

Is there a guide to Pimsleur?

>>32211
No. German is a OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK grammar tier language. Shit is bananas. (bee ay en ay en ay ess.) English is a germanic language, but it also has a ton of early romantic influence so as a language it's a real bastard shitpile.

>>23057

http://www.youtube.com/user/GoSwedish

Not much, but its a start

Holy fuck, archive this thread, shit's full of good info.

So... I found a torrent with several electronic Japanese to English dictionaries in ISO format and thought I'd share it. They're made for the Japanese for the purpose of learning English. I use Kenkyuusha's Jap-Eng dictionary all the time and it beats the pants off of any online dictionary I've ever seen (JDIC especially). Just mount the ISO and then get either EBWin or EBMac to view the dictionaries.

http://btjunkie[dot]org/torrent/JAPANESE-DICTIONARIES-on-CD-DVD-ROMS/37791b6ee892ff353668ea12403f3dd
c5a3652b97c05

it says it has no seeds but it's downloading for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0y3O14Ouqc

I found this old japanese learning video,and it's pretty good it reminds me of pimsleur. You guys learning japanese should give it a try,
even though it's out of date. You can also download the videos off of pirate bay. If anyone wants them, i can gladly put the link in the thread.

anymore resources for Spanish?

>>26131

That's awesome!
Thank you very much!

>>34977
Any tips on Italian?

>>35131
italian is kind of ezmode, took that for 4 years :3

>>35201
Do you know any good translators? Google translate is kinda shitty.

>>35210

translators are kinda derpy, I usually just use a dictionary. Are you just starting to learn?

>>35216
Cool thanks

>>35219
word reference btw, it's been mentioned but it's pretty helpful :3

>>23057
Feel free to contact me if you want to learn Swedish, I have some material and I'm a native speaker in case you wish to practice.

>>34129
This video is pretty useful thanks

I want to learn to code. Not a certain language, just coding. Help.

>>35804
Like C++ ?

>>35823
I guess C++ takes fuckloads of time and is very difficult for a simple mind.

My friend said once that he could teach Django a monkey

>>35828

>>35828
Are you drunk?

>>35804
C# is pretty easy to learn and understand

>>35828
Ruby. Ruby ruby ruby ruby ruby. I love this language. It's so fucking easy.

>>35861
also, uses .net framework which is basically what miscrosoft uses for just about everything

if you're a student, you can head over to dreamspark.com and download the pro C# visual studio for free

I want to learn mandrin (Australian here)
Any story's/words of advice?
Or links to start from scratch?

Is there any other program better then premsleur out there?

Is there anything better then premsleur out there?

>>34129
Here's the torrent for the videos.
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/93924685/japanese+basic?tab=summary

>>36238
if you have iTunes there's a good podcast for Mandarin lessons

Anyone got any resources for learning Greek? Help would be greatly appreciated; have to learn it at uni.
Thanks

Anyone got any resources for learning ancient Greek?

>>29886
any resources for learning portuguese? its the language ive always wanted to learn
or dutch?

(and thanks people for the mandarin resources!)

also, archive please

I would say to archive this thread, but Chanarchive doesn't seem to have this board on it's list yet.

So at least sticky it for now.

>>37083
Know what its called?

>>31827
Would like to know this as well.

>>13945
uz-translations.net
Great site for resources

>>15710
I see your Virtual CloneDrive and raise you one WinCDEmu

What programs or methods does the military use to teach different languages

Knowledge is power, thank you for this

this thread will sadly max soon.

http://archive.no-ip.org/diy/thread/13528 is an archive of the text and thumbnails (it doesn't safe full-sized images)

Damn, I made this thread Monday and its still here lol

>>37642

They have a language school in California if your job requires you to learn a language (Defense Language Institute). For the non-linguists they give us Rosetta Stone for free.

Any resources for learning Welsh?

mfw my friend who works shilling Rosetta Stone software just moved in with me.

>>17271

>dat image

Holy crap sir. You are amazing. So frigging amazing. My friend is watching me stare at that image in awe and is pretty sure that it is the final symptom of having been brainwashed by 4chan.

>>35828

hrrrrwha?

Maybe we need make a google site to put the links from this thread.
And for who want learn portuguese, it's fairly easy if you are fluent in Spanish.

Another book that I found really helpful while learning Japanese was Basic Japanese Through Comics.

It's not a standalone textbook; instead it's broken up into chapters about certain things. For example, there's a whole chapter on different uses of kanji in comics, a chapter on the word "komaru (困る)" and its uses, differences between male and female language, and a whole bunch of other interesting things.

It's a great additional resource.

For people who want Swedish.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/adr10/swedish.html
http://www2.hhs.se/isa/swedish/
http://www.filter.ac.uk/database/insightrecord.php?id=41
http://www.ielanguages.com/swedish.html
http://www.sweol.com

I especially like this one, I probably learned the most that I know from it:

http://www.swedish-flashcards.com

^That site has a couple of languages so if anyone is intrested go ahead and look.

Fuck you OP Rosetta Stone is shit for everything unless you just want to learn "The boy runs" then knock yourself out

It's a good program actually. But it sure as hell is not worth $400.
I used the Swedish one and I learned more Swedish in 2 months then French in 3 years in High School. Sure it sounds retarded but it uses common words and "boy is running" is level one first unit. There's a lot more material ya know?

If you want to learn programming there are two route, learning easy to hard and then hard to easy.

Easy to hard
Start with Python do C++/Java then C
Hard to easy
C, C++, Java, Python

i fucking love languages. i gotta learn'em all! but im just too lazy

Icelandic and Finnish

Greenlandic and Patois

Maximum weeaboo on my quest to know Japanese so I can read visual novels. I'm currently almost done with kanji and getting into building vocabulary. Kind of disheartened because I still can't read shit.
Would knowing the 2000 most used words be enough to at least kind of read stuff while helping me with a dictionary for the stuff I don't know?
I want to get to a point where I know at least enough to read stuff and pick up new words as they come up.

Anyone know anything about Burmese?

this should be a sticky

>>17197
http://www.aeriagloris.com/LearnKorean/

Do 100 of these a day for a couple weeks and you'll get Hangeul down in no-time.

another request for Latin

For compensation, have this:
https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/languages

Thank you awesome thread, you are awesome.

Is there a website the shows Pimsleur in writing?

>>39219
bump

how's Cambridge Latin Course nowadays? I used it in hs a decade ago, but don't know how it'd be without a teacher's structured instruction.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/sulkasiipi
really helpful for learning basic finnish phrases. she's so cute

This should be consolidated into a guide (new thread) before sticky.

>>39219
bump

>>39219
Bump

how the FUCK is this DIY and not /int/

Goddamnit mods

>>40934
so what

Rosetta stone was pretty good to help you on your pronunciation

This site has a ton of japanese learning materials for download:

http://gaubebong.blogspot[dot]com/

>>42504
thanks

looks like this thread is maxed. boo.

>>42919
not yet