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Milwaukee, makita, dewalt, hercules, which is your favorite and why?

>> No.1555082

I'm a Dewalt slut. Love me some yellow.

>> No.1555087

>>1555082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXdKrSKKeQ8

>> No.1555090

>>1555080
Makita, off course. Strong as a mule, built like a tank.
I once threw one at an aprentice, still works like a charm.
(The tool, not the aprentice).

Their boxes are kinda weak, though.

>> No.1555092

>>1555090
The teal color is unappealing to me

>> No.1555094

>>1555080
Milwaukee has the best 12v tools and reciprocating saws.

Metabo is the way to go for angle grinders.

DeWalt for their portable table saws.

Routers are a toss up between Bosch, Makita, Milwaukee and DeWalt.

Makita has the belt sanders.

Random orbital sanders is a toss up between DeWalt and Makita.

Hitachi for their corded miter saws.

Bosch has the best corded jigsaws.

Corded Drills in general are pretty much a toss up across all of these brands, shit is practically a perfected tool.

>> No.1555095

>>1555080
Dewalt and Hitachi

>> No.1555108

Makita, then Bosch.
I would put Bosch first for its anti-wristbreak and low vibration features, but unfortunately it's some 40Nm less than Makita.

>> No.1555116

>>1555094
So much this. The Milwaukee batteries are great, also the tradie's radio is awesome

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>>1555080
Makita because I'm a weeb.

>> No.1555148

>>1555080
Miller.

>> No.1555173

>>1555080
no matter what brand as long it's got a cord and isn't chinesium

>> No.1555203

>>1555173
>cord
Ok grandpa

>> No.1555237

>>1555090
Kek, last journeyman that fucked with apprentices eventually pissed off one with screws loose and took a 1in EMT bender to the skull

>> No.1555244

>>1555203

maybe you can swap out the dead batteries to your low powered drill with your high powered vibrator, faggot.

>> No.1555253

>>1555244
A couple 6.0Ah batteries weigh less than your extension cord and will easily last through the day even with heavy use.

>> No.1555344

>>1555080
The best tool is the one that gets the job done. Look up the torque specs, and look up some YouTube reviews to see it in action.

>> No.1555370

Bosch, Metabo

>> No.1555417

>>1555344
Meh, they all get the job done. All of the big home improvenent store brands are so fucking close. You aren’t going to notice the difference between the Milwaukee impact driver’s 1900in-lbs of torque and the DeWalt’s 1925in-lbs when you’re hanging drywall.

And Youtube power tool reviews are 90% worthless. They take brand new tools out of the box and give an opinion on them 5min later. The most important thing to know is how these tools will perform after months and years of being run hard on the job.

Buy the saw you already have batteries for. If you don’t already own the tools, look at the brand’s lineup and buy into the one that offers all of the tools you think you may want in the future. If you’re going to keep it basic like a drill, impact driver, sawzall, and circ saw, buy the setup that you can get the best deal on. If they’re all the same price, pick the color you like best.

>> No.1555469

I work at Ingersoll rand and I like makita and panasonic

Ir has nice stuff but it isn't updated often

>> No.1555480

>>1555080
Hilti, too bad they won't let me buy their stuff.

>> No.1555584

>>1555469
Would be interesting to see IR put forth an honest effort with their cordless tools. I’m sure they would be similiar in cost to Hilti, but they could probably steal quite a bit of that market as well as grabbing some grease monkeys who don’t like the Snappy guy but want something more exclusive than Milwaukee.

>>1555480
Go on...

>> No.1555611

>>1555173
Is that you RB

>> No.1555629

>>1555080
Ryobi because I'm poor and it's good enough; if I had money I'd probably run Makita everything though.

>> No.1555800

>>1555584
They only sell to tradesmen and companies, if you are a regular pleb you won't get one.

>> No.1555819

>>1555094
First time seeing such a correct post. I'd just add that HILTI is worth theoney for it's corded SDS drill

>> No.1555886

>>1555080
Ridgid and Porter Cable.

>> No.1555904

>>1555584
Not him but Hilti is professional-only. You need a business to buy their tools and they only sell it at their locations.
Used to work with them as a carpenter helper during the summers when i was in my teens, really powerful and sturdy tools.
You could drive a screw with the cordless drill right through branches and it wouldn't even hesitate.

>> No.1555918

>>1555904
>You need a business to buy their tools and they only sell it at their locations.

you can literally buy Hilti tools straight from the Home Depot website, the stores mainly exist as service centers for their larger commercial customers. im sure if you walk into one of their stores with a pile of cash they will sell you whatever you want, it just might not be as easy to set up an equipment service plan without buying a fleet of tools.

>> No.1555955

I'm about to drop money on a bunch of tools. Somewhere around $1500, but half of it will be on conventional tools like torque wrenches and a good jack. Aside from convenience, is there any reason to spend money on cordless? If not, what corded brands are the best? If I'm getting cordless, which brands should I avoid like the plague?

>> No.1555965

>>1555955
best bet is to 1. give more info... we have no idea what you are planning to do with these tools. 2. ask someone of that hobby/trade or whatever what works best... if I was a mechanic and gonna work in a nice garage all day I think the only thing cordless I would have is a impact drill, but since I'm an electrician most of my tools are cordless

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>>1555955
>is there any reason to spend money on cordless?
are you going to be working in a single confined space with a set of pneumatic tools running off of a sizeable air tank? if not a good combo kit of cordless tools will fill all your needs just fine.

>If not, what corded brands are the best?
corded tools are junk; drills and impacts havnt been improved on in years and the latest cordless saws easily keep up with their 15 amp corded counterparts.

cordless tools have made huge improvements in recent years and have the power and endurance to easily keep up with whatever a single person will ask of them.

>> No.1555972

>>1555417
>Buy the saw you already have batteries for

This. Being able to use the same battery for different tools and the same charger to charge all your batteries is so convenient. Whatever brand you go with, stick with that brand so all your batteries and chargers are the same

>> No.1555982

>>1555965
1. I'm looking for power tools for woodworking tools more than anything (impact driver, sawzall, jigsaw, miter saw, router). I know what I want for working on my car, but I know jack shit about what I should get for home improvement tools. 2. I don't know anyone that does construction or remodeling for a living. So I'm stuck with a Bulgarian Rock Collecting Enthusiast site and Google for advice.

>> No.1555996

>>1555800
>>1555904
See >>1555918

They had a drill-driver-screwdriver set, might be 12V, that is honestly close to Milwaukee Fuel in pricing.

>>1555955
Meh, go cordless. Manufacturers don’t give a fuck about many of their corded tools anymore. I can’t remember the last time I was driving a couple screws outside the house and thought to myself “This 2000in-lb impact driver isn’t enough, I wish I had a tool attached to a 100ft extension cord”.

It also depends which tool because running a sawzall all day will still burn through batteries pretty quick, but you can get a couple 5.0Ah+ batteries from the major brands for <$150 and the second one will be 90% charged by the time the first one is getting low if you’re running the tool constantly.

>>1555982
A couple of the woodworking tools might be worth going corded. If you’re just starting out and are going to stick with it, wait for a Father’s day sale on Ryobi and get a big 8 tool set with a handful of batteries for like $300, and then buy corded for the bigger woodworking tools.

>> No.1556018

I'm looking to buy into a system in the near future for a siding crew and I want to ask you guys if you have any experience with Hitachi/Metabo HPT, specifically their miter saws and circular saws. How the durability? Power? I hear they're pretty good and the new multi volt thing looks cool (where you can use a special adapter to plug in a cordless tool if you have power). How are they, and the rest of the line up? I would probably need shears, drill/driver, and a couple small other basics, the rest of the tools would be on air. No cordless siding gun yet.

>> No.1556076

>>1555080

Makita, I guess. Milwaukee doesn't have all the tools o need in their lineup. And I'm still pissed at DeWalt over cancelling their last battery platform.

Also I like that Makita is all 18v but still has compact and subcompact despite it not being 12v. You get battery compatibility with no real downside.

Really none of the platforms have any features that justify their incompatibility. Lots of minor nothingburgers that are basically there just as an excuse for nothing working together.

>> No.1556082

>>1555244

Li ion was a game changer. Shit lasts all day and the power on a brushless 18v or 36v tool is excellent. Charging is fast enough that you'll always have a full battery.

Total game changer. Only bitching left to do is compatibility across brands.

>> No.1556085

>>1555417
I can't believe I'm even reading a tripster, let alone agreeing with one, but skinnyjeans speaks the truth.

>> No.1556091

>>1555982
>1. I'm looking for power tools for woodworking tools more than anything (impact driver, sawzall, jigsaw, miter saw, router).

Tracksaw is a thing to take a serious look at. It's best ideal for plywood but is a major improvement for all kinds of woodworking, especially if you are inventive about using the track. Plunge cutting comes in handy, and don't underestimate the value of the improved dust collection.

Milwaukee doesn't have one, but DeWalt and Makita do. Both have good trim routers and RO sanders, which also come up alot.

But really for woodworking if you get serious you'll want big iron: table saw, grinder, router table, bandsaw. Those can be and usually are corded.

>> No.1556094

>>1555629
So much this, plus their One+ range has something like 70 tools that run on the same batteries.

>> No.1556097

>>1556091
>Tracksaw is a thing to take a serious look at
Plus a MFT/3 (or cheaper copy) and some parf dogs to make repetitive cuts so much easier, and always square.

>> No.1556104

>>1556076
>compatibility across brands
Will never happen. It’s not like it’s some inconvenience that just happened, it’s their main sales technique. Sell you a drill, driver, and 2 batteries for $150 and lose money, but then profit as you spend another $1000 on batteries over the life of the tools.

Good luck trying to get your Ford key to start that Toyota.

>> No.1556476

>>1555996
No HD in germany.

>> No.1556577

>>1556076
Makita does have a 12v CXT line, its growing but still smaller than Milwaukee's M12 line and arnt as powerful as the M12 Fuel tools.

i do appreciate how dedicated all of the brands are to sticking with their existing batteries, Makita has the black subcompact tools for light use and their 18vX2 tools for heavy duty work. they even have patents in for a 72v quad battery backpack blower to expand their outdoor power tool line even further.

>> No.1556732

>>1556577
>72V
>$250 for the tool and $400 in batteries that need to be replaced in a couple years
Idk why people do this.

>> No.1556743

Festool router and track saw
Dewalt everything else
VW transporter van

>> No.1557859

>>1556732
better than having to buy separate 72v batteries that dont work with the rest of your tools.

>> No.1557946

Blue Bosch if you've got the cash.
Makita otherwise.

I would have said Metabo but holy crap have their quality slid since their 90's heyday.

>> No.1557955

Tier 1: Hilti, Fein, Mafell, Festool
Tier 2: Bosch Blue, Metabo, Makita
Tier 3: Milwaukee, Dewalt, Hitachi

The only reason Milwaukee isn't in Tier 2 is while their tools have a lot of power, their life expectancy is shit, they're build like consumer electronics with planned obsolescence in mind.

>> No.1557997

>>1555080
I don't give a fuck, honestly.
But for some reason I like Makita more. Teal color I guess.
Also Metabo

>> No.1558000

>>1557946
Blue Bosch cost nearly as much, as Makita.

>> No.1558002

$10 IKEA drill

>> No.1558005

>>1558000
No way, some tools are close in price but feature equivalent angle and straight grinders, recipo saws, routers, mitre and track saws are anywhere from 30% to twice the price on the Bosch

I got a bunch of tools recently and choices were between those two, latest Makita angle grinder was 150€, Bosch was around 270€
Since I don't use it all that much I took Makita this time, even it has inferior vibration control and the old school locking nut

>> No.1558006

>>1557955
But Milwaukee has the longest warranty of any of those tools you just posted you fucking tard

>> No.1558017

>>1558006
How long is the Mil warranty? 5 years? That's the same as Bosch.

>> No.1558022

>>1558017
5 year tool 3 year battery for Milwaukee
>LIMITED WARRANTY OF BOSCH PORTABLE AND BENCHTOP POWER TOOLS

Robert Bosch Tool Corporation ("Seller") warrants to the original purchaser only, that all BOSCH portable and benchtop power tools will be free from defects in material or workmanship for a period of one year from date of purchase.

>> No.1558029

>>1558022
I got it wrong, it's 3 for tools and 2 for batteries.

https://www.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/service/guarantee/information/

>1 year
Is that an America thing?

>> No.1558030

LOMVUM masterrace

>> No.1558031

>>1558029
Must be.
Milwaukee still longer lol
https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/service/product-warranty/

>> No.1558034

>>1558031
It's good that it's longer since they really need it, I don't know if it's just chinese junk or bad batches with inferior internals to recoup costs but my service guy tells me they get the most repairs on Mil tools out of the big boys.

>> No.1558036

>>1558034
>most repairs on the brand that sells the most tools
Ya dont say
Lmfao

>> No.1558037

>>1558036
I already told you I ain't in America, Milwaukee hasn't penetrated that far into the market.

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This is the only tool I'm really jealous that the other brands don't have, perfect for working around the car.

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>>1557859

>> No.1559458

>>1555087
>taking tool advice from a furry
I have no opinion on Dewalt.

>> No.1559482

>>1558099
a lot of residential areas are starting to ban gas powered leaf blowers because of the high pitched noise pollution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FriRLapKTTU

>> No.1559620

>>1559482
Take that complaint note from your HOA, toss it in your front yard, and unleash 200mph of 2-stroke goodness on it until it’s in the hedges three houses down.

>> No.1560085

>>1555629
my nigger
Ryobi is based

>> No.1561153
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1561153

Bought from harbor freight to use around the house about 2 years ago. Haven't had an issue yet. Think I paid 70 for it.

>> No.1561261

Any opinions on the orange Rigid? Have a couple people that swear by it

>> No.1561263

>>1555080
>Milwaukee, makita, dewalt, hercules, which is your favorite and why?

Anything corded I can get my hands on.
The idea of spending hundreds of dollars on an expendable tool is just baffling to me.

I refuse to buy into an ecosystem for batteries knowing that they will be dead in 3-5 years, having to rebuy new batteries for old tools. And of course the batteries prices are a fucking racket.

>> No.1561267

>>1556082
>>1555253
Its not about short term reliability, its about long term reliability. And Li-Ions have been around long enough that we already know their characteristics and reliability from things like laptop batteries and RC cars.

"Grandpa" is right, gramps used to buy something quality and expect it to last, not expect to have to rebuy something every 4 years.
But everyone lets the drill companies pull the wool over their eyes, they need you to be rebuying the stuff every handful of years instead of keeping a nice corded drill around for 25 years.

>> No.1561283

>>1561261
It’s straight. It’s made by the same company as Milwaukee and Ryobi. It’s that AvE “Prosumer” tier just below Milwaukee, but better quality than Ryobi. Like the other brands, wait for a good sale, around Xmas you could get 3 brushless tools and 2 big batteries for $200, or a 5 tool brushless kit with 2 batteries and another 2 free tools (or one tool and two 4.0Ah packs) of your choice for $350. Another nice thing about Orange is that their batteries are all compatible with different gens, I believe the newest 6.0Ah Octane Li-Ion will fit in the old gens that came with NiCd batteries.

Two things to consider- they don’t have quite as many tools like Milwaukee’s dozen different impact wrenches or Ryobi’s 18V fire inflator, but they have everything a regular DIY guy would need and they’re putting effort in with the new Octane stuff for a much more reasonable price than Red’s OneKey and they even have an 18V air compressor. The second thing- lots of people say the LSA is a pain in the ass. You get a lifetime warranty on batteries that come with kits, but not additional single batteries. If a tool breaks 10 years down the line, you still have to pay shipping and they may try and charge you for parts or give you some excuse about user abuse, so at that point it may be worth upgrading to the newest gen of tools.

>> No.1561286

>>1561263
>>1561267
Yup, all of the cons to corded tools are negated by the fact that you might have to spend $100 on new batteries every 5 years.

>> No.1561297
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Whatever harbor freight has on sale

>> No.1561305

>>1561153
Why though?

I know the Bauer and Hercules are decent tools, but I can’t wrap my head around buying those. I guess the $20 battery thing is nice, but you can get Ryobi for the same price and you get a warranty that extends beyond two uses.

>>1561297
See above, unless you’re buying the $20 Drill Master.

>> No.1561313

>>1561286
>all of the cons to corded tools

Kek. What "cons" to corded tools are there.
>oh boo hoo hoo I have to deal with a cord being in the way!

As opposed the all the cons of having to juggle battery life, let alone the expensive subscription service you just signed yourself up for?
I get it bepis, this is the first time youve bought a cordless drill before. You havent had them long enough to feel the aging process.

Youll understand one day, then again maybe not. You do love to just throw around money like you are a big nigger.

>> No.1561375

>>1561313
Ok grandpa

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>>1561375
Deadass dabbing on the haters

>> No.1561681

>>1561380
>first time buying a cordless drill
The difference between newer Li-Iom and old Ni-Cd packs is big enough that manufacturers pretty much stopped putting any R&D into their corded tools anymore. If old man hasn’t used a cordless tool made since 2010, there’s no use in explaining it to him any further. I have no fucking clue why somebody would drive screws with a corded drill in 2005+14.

>> No.1561739

>>1555092
Ahh, nice b8. Makita is some top level stuff. Also, did you know you can paint your tools? It can keep jagoffs from taking your shit on a jobsite. Pink is especially effective.

>> No.1561797

Thou i can see Gramps reasoning most Frameworkers/Woodbutchers in Germany use cordless Powertools as it doesn't limit your mobility on the roof,
also we use the 54V dewalt line and it even tops hilti drills or cordless saws

>> No.1561870

>>1561681
>The difference between newer Li-Iom and old Ni-Cd packs is big enough that manufacturers pretty much stopped putting any R&D into their corded tools anymore.

What kind of R&D do you need for a corded drill?
Of thats right, you dont need it because its simple and hasnt changed much in 60 years.

The only reason R&D is needed for cordless drills now is so that they can build in planned obsolescence into their batteries. We all know the razor thin margin for usability in Lithium Ion batteries anyways. Go a few volts too low, and it damages the battery life permanently, goes a few volts too high and it explodes in spectacular fashion.

> I have no fucking clue why somebody would drive screws with a corded drill in 2005+14.

Have you even looked?
Screwguns are still mostly corded.

>> No.1561872

>>1561739
Its nice and chinese like the rest of them

>> No.1561995

>>1555080
ryobi

>> No.1562026

>>1561681
The only R&D they have put into corded anything in the last 30 years is finding ways to make it shitter to save a fraction of a cent on the manufacturing cost. Seriously. Go out and find a high end corded drill from 30 years ago and compare the features to one made this year. Doubled insulated, reversible, variable speed, lightweight, impact, hammer action, all these features have been available for decades on corded drills. Event more niche stuff like right-angle or 'holehog' style drills are nothing new. The only R&D they need to spend any money on is cordless because that is the only realm seeing any real improvements.

>> No.1562040

So In 3-5 years am I going to have to spend another 400 dollars on batteries because I bought a 6 piece cordless tool set for Christmas?

>> No.1562052

>>1562040
Nah, youll just buy a whole new set because your tools are "old" anon.
Just the way the battery ecosystem is intended to work.

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>>1562040
Maybe $100

>>1562026
>reversible
Good to know that they’re making drills that go forward and backwards these days.

>>1562052
Don’t buy DeWalt then. But even DeWalt sells adapters.

>> No.1562083

>>1562040
I got a 3 year old 5.0Ah Makita 18V battery, and a brand new one.
I put them both in a 2x18V chainsaw and the 3 year old one goes empty first, the new one is left around 10% or lower (voltage too low can't even start my Makita dust extractor) when this one is empty.

So no, you won't have to buy shit unless you're batteries are at 70 degrees Celsius all day, but in that case you should be worried they don't explode and kill you.

>> No.1562084

>>1562083
Makita uses some top notch Samsung cells made for longevity, don't know what the other brands use.

>> No.1562092

>>1562081
What do you mean $100? My batteries now are worth $400 so I'm going to be replacing them all in 5 years right?

>> No.1562094

>>1562084
They all use pretty good cells. Even the $20 Bauer and Kobalt batteries use Samsung cells.

>>1562083
Grandpa still doesn’t understand the difference between Li-Ion and Ni-Cd.

>> No.1562097

>>1562094
Even if they're "samsung cells", there are several tiers there, some are more resistant to heat, some have more charge cycles, some allow higher voltage when charging, some made for high amperage, some for low passive discharge, etc etc

But as a general rule you want either Panasonic or Samsung cells.

>> No.1562098

>>1562092
No. See >>1562083

Plus as the years go buy, you might want a new tool which costs $150, or you can get that same tool plus 2 batteries and a charger for $170.

If you’re a weekend warrior, Li-Ions will last years and years with minimal loss provided you take care of them and don’t fast charge them to 110% capacity every werkend. If you’re using them on a jobsite and are putting an honest 200+ cycles per year on your batteries, then maybe you will end up spending a few hundred bucks on batteries over the next decade, but that’s a cost of doing business and you probably would’ve spent the same amount of money replacing chewed up extension cords if you were running corded tools heavily on the jobsites. Have you seen the cost of quality 50ft+ outdoor extension cords?

>> No.1562143

The only corded shit you'd want nowadays is the 1500W+ and stationary equipment.

Heatguns, borers, rotary hammer, etc.

>> No.1562147

>>1562094
>Grandpa still doesn’t understand the difference between Li-Ion and Ni-Cd.

Oh I understand them, and have dealt with them for a very long time. Laptops have been using them for much longer than drills have, the protection and charging technology is mature.
The way you act like this is something special and new just because this is the first time youve bought a drill is funny.

>If you’re a weekend warrior, Li-Ions will last years and years with minimal loss provided you take care of them and don’t fast charge them to 110% capacity every werkend

What is "taking care of them"?
Your typical lithium ion battery will self discharge about 20% every 30 days unless tended by a charger.
Are you saying that letting them self discharge down to dangerous levels for a home owner who uses it every 4-5 months is good?
Or should they sit and on the battery charger with elevated levels of heat for months and months?

If by "years and years" you mean about 3, I agree with you.

>> No.1562150

>>1562147
>20% every 30 days

I literally have 3 different battery platforms, all in all 9 total batteries, and the self discharge is not even 10% in a month, why do you lie?

>> No.1562152

>>1562150
>why do you lie?

How do you quantify the level of discharge in a drill?
4 fucking LEDs on the battery?
As opposed to anyone with a Vape or a Laptop which has easily quantifiable discharge rates.

Again, your drill batteries arent new or special, They are just repacked into a special expensive plastic container. They are still Li-Ion batteries

>> No.1562153

>>1562152
With a fucking multimeter you dipshit.

>> No.1562157

>>1562153
>autistic enough to use a multimeter to measure his highly protected drill batteries, as if there was anything he could do about it anyways

kek
I understand why vapers, and flashlight enthusiasts, and RC guys do it. Its important to properly keep your unprotected batteries in good shape. And its where all that objective info is easily found.
But to do it with drill batteries, futile

>> No.1562159

>>1562157
It takes about 20 seconds to measure DC voltage on power tool batteries just as it takes on a naked cell, sorry for your brain damage.

>> No.1562160

>>1555629
Shit gets it done for when I need shit done.
>In before tradesman niggers cry.

>> No.1562166

>>1562159
We all know you arent actually measuring it, just using the retard LEDs on the drill itself.

>> No.1562168

>>1562166
Tell me more about myself.

>> No.1562170

>>1562147
Ok grandpa. I’m not going to argue with you anymore about how WW2 was nothing but a false flag orchestrated by the Jews.

>>1562152
You have more than one person telling you that these things you consider to be fact are downright bogus. Keep telling people about how seatbelts and airbags kill more people than they save.

>>1562153
>>1562159
This is also true. I always have a meter laying on my bench so it’s more like 5 seconds. Plus if you can figure out that 2 bars equals 3.8V, then just leave your batteries at 2 bars if your not going to touch those packs for a few months, then you don’t even have to bother with a meter.

>> No.1562172

>>1562170
>You have more than one person telling you that these things you consider to be fact are downright bogus.

Its called a coping mechanism.
Its tough to swallow that you bought something so expensive that isnt going to last as long as you want it to.
I get it, it happens to everyone.

It doesnt change reality though. There is ample information out there about the characteristics of your particular batteries, in your particular drills.

If you had ever partook in any hobby that dealt with Li-Ions before, youd realize how full of fucking shit you are.
Youll realize in due time though.
Trying to deflect by bringing up /pol/ topics wont change anything either.

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>>1562172
I understand coping mechanisms well. You have been posting examples of them all thread. You didn’t like to see your cousin and best friend die in the war and you didn’t like to lose your home to the bank, so you blame it all on the Jews.

Meanwhile this niglected old 1.5Ah will still drive screws just fine after sitting idle for 6+ months despite being somewhere between 5 and 10 years old.

>> No.1562358

Here is a different question.

What is the best brand to diy repair?

Replace the power cells, fix the drill. That kind of thing.

>> No.1562396

>>1555080
Hikoki all day

>> No.1562483

>>1562098
So without using them a lot, they don't just die in 5 years on their own?

>> No.1562543

>>1561870

cordless is better than corded you dumb old shit youve clearly never used a cordless or even have much experience in doing anything related

>> No.1562555

>>1561872
My Makita impact was made in Japan.

>> No.1562558

The cheapest used pro quality corded tools that aren’t made in china -which in aus is probably makita. They were the most popular in the 90s-00s and were still made in jp.

I can’t afford/justify the tradie cordless stuff
And I’m just diying around the house
I’ll take the inconvenience of a cord for better quality and more tools for my $$
$50 makita ls1012 slider
$5 800w euro b&d pre-dewalt hammer drill
$25 mak drywall screw gun
90$ old makita metal trimmer with a dozen cabinetmaker bits

I have an Aldi tier 20v cordless for when I need to do a single screw/hole or it’s up on the roof. But if I’m doing an afternoon or I need to drill a mans hole the extension cord comes out

>> No.1562559

>>1562558

keep cheaping out on your tools, i guess it doesnt feel as bad if you dont know what youre missing

you can buy a used top brand cordless 2 batteries and a charger for dirt cheap these days

for a "mans hole" i use a torch or a drill press, as a corded drill doesnt do any better than a cordless

>> No.1562578

>>1562358
The only thing I really heard concerning this is that Makita’s battery packs will lock you out forever if they detect a fault one time. So even if you were to replace the cells in a Makita pack, it wouldn’t work without a new board or finding a way to flash it.

>>1562483
Nah you should get more out of them than that. Like my Ridgid stuff came with a couple of 4.0Ah batteries that will last all day on a jobsite in the impact, so even after 5-7 years of light use when I only have 1.5-2.0Ah of capacity left, those things will still get me through DIY projects no problem. It’s not like the batteries just completely die right at 3 years.

>> No.1562616

>Metabo
yeah.... all of Hitachi's cordless stuff is now being rebranded as Metabo. so it's shit.

>> No.1562667

Maybe it's a European thing and most people will not have heard of it, but DWT tools have served me well.

>> No.1562683

>>1561283
>you still have to pay shipping and they may try and charge you for parts or give you some excuse about user abuse

a lot of people complain about this but all you have to do is take your tools to a Home Depot with a Tool Rental department and they will attempt to do the repair work in-house, if not they will send it out to the repair center themselves and wont charge you for anything.

>> No.1562686

>>1562683
Hmmm that’s not too bad. I would prefer they send me the new parts but that will never happen.

>signal booster Comcast installed shit out
>lose TV and interwebs throughout the house
>call Comcast, it’s a Weds or Thurs night and they tell me the earliest they can get there is Mon or Tues, which I work, so it would be a week and a half to get a weekend appt
>tell them I just need a booster, Comcast store will give me a cable box, why not the booster?
>cunts still refuse and make me wait for certified tech to plug a couple cables in

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>>1561870
>Screwguns are still mostly corded.

we're talking about multi-purpose drill-drivers and Hammer drills, not dedicated specialty drywall guns. a corded drill might be fine putting holes in things but without a clutch, speed controls and eletric brake i would go anywhere near one for driving screws, its like using a demolition hammer to put roofing nails in.

even then every major brand (including Ridgid and Ryobi) have cordless brushless drywall guns with auto-drive functions and optional collated screw attachments that are smaller, lighter, quieter and smarter than any corded legacy tools floating around on a jobsite.

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>>1555080
Hilti
Festool
Bosch blue
Hitachi
in that order, cause the feeling operator

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>>1562698
Milwaukee even has the cordless rivet guns that will collect the little bits of metal.

As mentioned before, these companies are barely even trying with corded tool R&D. You don’t even really need an air compressor anymore.

>> No.1562927

been using chinkshit from horror fright for years. i take care of my stuff and do a lot of repair work on them myself in the off chance something breaks. fuck spending thousands of dollars for tools that are going to be used for commercial applications.

>> No.1563017

>>1562578
Thanks. Eliminated DRM drill.

>> No.1563087

>>1562559
What am I missing out on?

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Parkside i.e. Lidl store brand

>> No.1563223

>>1562721
Based german qualitybro, favorite hand tools.

Stahlwille, Wera/Wiha and Knipex, right?

>> No.1563226

>>1563223
Wera isn't German quality - they make all their shit in Czechia

>> No.1563232

>>1563205
Take a pic of that battery. The shape looks similar to the Ridgid-AEG 12V pack.

That one has that 90deg T shape you don’t see on tools anymore, the handle is always angled.

>> No.1563234

>>1563232
If anything it looks like the Bosch 12V pack.

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>>1563232
Together with an older Parkside battery, which is incompatible because fuck you.

>> No.1563278

amateur here about to buy a bunch of tools for my new house in a few days.

seems like the general consensus is that corded drills are for the most part dead because cordless power and battery life is ~enough~ now.

what about more hungry tools like circular saws, grinders, belt sanders? if portability is not important for these should you go corded or are they all just default to battery now too?

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>>1563223

Absolutely correct. but i actually prefer wiha before wera. Not because they come from the Czech Republic but because they also have wooden handles. At some point I buy this suitcase: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0015M1F5Q/?coliid=I1FPYR6F0ZXGX&colid=3PL1DEVVWFB9K&psc=0

>> No.1563337

>>1563278
Circular saws, reciprocating saws, and grinders drain batteries in a hurry but unless you are using them all day the battery life is good enough. If you just need it for home maintenance buy a Ridgid or Ryobi kit on sale. Makita, DeWalt, and Milwaukee aren't worth the money for infrequent use. Now if you're planning on remodeling that requires framing or shop work that requires grinding ugly welds I'd buy corded.

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>>1563278
depends what you are asking of your tools, if you are sitting in one place hacking up wood all day then a corded saw or grinder is fine. the top end of cordless tools with the beefiest brushless motors and large 10ah+ batteries boast just as much power as a 15amp corded tool and will get you through a good chunk of a days work on the jobsite with a single charge.

cheaper brands are catching up fast and are way more capable than they were 10 years ago, a Ryobi set like this with a few extra batteries will easily get a weekend warrior through whatever projects you are working on, keep one on the charger and cycle through them as needed and you will never be left without power.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Li-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-3-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-Drill-Driver-Impact-Driver-Circ-Saw-Batteries-Charger-P1837/305439006

cordless tools will rarely bog down under heavy loads like they used to, i helped my my dad put up this retaining wall last month and his 7-1/4" Ridgid circular saw easily cut through these 4x12" treated timbers with a pass on each side and then used an 18v impact driver to put it all together with 8" timberlock screws that didnt even need pre-drilling.

>> No.1563383

>>1563337
I'd avoid Ryobi at the moment. I had a ton of Ryobi tools that I'd been happy with for about 10 years, but lately their QC on batteries has been shit. Out of 4 new batteries bought in the last 15 months, 3 of them have already gone bad, and on the last one Ryobi refused to honor their warranty.

I won't be buying any more Ryobi tools and am slowly replacing them with Makita.

>> No.1563430

>>1563383
That's too bad, they used to be good for the money. I run all Milwaukee now but that's because my company filled my service van with them and they are definitely a step up but also twice the price if not more.

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>>1563383
Really? Damn, I have heard good stuff about them from pretty much everybody. What was their excuse on the last battery pack?

>>1563278
If you’re willing to spend the money up front, it may be worth getting cordless just because it will end up at like $50 per tool for brushless stuff. If you’re just around the house, you shouldn’t have to worry about burning through 4Ah battery packs on a grinder or saw.

Wait for a good Father’s Day sale or something and you can get everything you need for <$500. Pic related was on sale for $350 for Xmas plus two free tools, so you could add a brushless grinder and sander. If you want more batteries, they had a 2pk of 4.0Ah batteries for $99, and those will run the saws for way longer than most boomers want to admit, and they sell 9.0Ah packs for Ridgid as well. 7 (well maybe 6 because fuck the light) brushless contractor grade tools and 4 fat batteries for <$500 after tax.

A similar Ryobi setup was even cheaper, I think it was $250 or less for a similar 5 tool kit with your choice of 2 free ones and they were all brushless as well so not even the lower end Ryobi tools.

>> No.1563581

>>1563552
>What was their excuse on the last battery pack?

I didn't have the receipt because it was bought for me as a gift. Kind of stupid when the battery packs have individual serial numbers.

>> No.1563654

>>1563581
Meh, that’s why I registered my Ridgid stuff as soon as I opened it. Was real easy to do the online one because they already had the info, but the 12V kit I bought in store and entered all the info correctly and they kicked it back out so again I submitted the same exact info but found a spot to upload a pic (which supposedly isn’t needed) and I attached a pic of the receipt and they finally approved it.

Haven’t had to use any of the stuff yet so we’ll see. Lifetime guarantee on the batteries might be the only thing I hope I will need to use like 5+ yrs down the line. I want to grab a 2.0Ah because the 4.0’s are overkill on the impact, or try out a 3.0Ah Octane to see how it runs the Octane saw, but they don’t have the lifetime service on individual batteries.

I’m still kinda regretting not buying the 1/2” impact set with a compact drill, charger, and 2x2.0Ah batteries for $160 when it was on sale. The tool alone is $150, and the tool with a single 4.0Ah and charger is $160.

Also I saw a Gen5x 7.25” circ saw at the pawn shop for $60, it’s tempting despite not getting the LSA.

>> No.1563810

>>1563654
>Meh, that’s why I registered my Ridgid stuff as soon as I opened it.

Yeah, I did that too and they still wouldn't honor the warranty.

>> No.1563877

>>1563654
>>1563810
Ryobi does have a tool registration system just like the Ridgid one but people rarely use it and they dont provide the same Lifetime Service Agreement so it is more of a formality to fill it out. dealing with TTI directly is a pain but as i said before >>1562683 having the warranty claim processed through a Home Depot gets you better results. the Tool Rental department maintenance technicians have a form they fill out and submit to TTI for faulty batteries and as long as the serial number isnt too old they will just mail you a new battery to replace the old one.

>> No.1565283

I love my little baby Ryobi driver, I just like to hold it and say "Ryoobbiiii!".

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Milwaukee warranty confirmed based
Bought a m18 fuel grinder off offerup with battery and charger and drill for 130 but the grinder was broken, I sent it to Milwaukee, they paid for shipping both ways and fixed it without any questions.
Fucking based.

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>>1565338

>> No.1566636

Metabo for the winn

>> No.1566638

>>1555080
wilfukyee only cause they make the best electrical-specific tools (besides hilti)