/diy/ - Do It Yourself

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>>1548284
Yeah but which one?

Dewalt or Milwaukee brushless. Ditch the dumb fucking air line

>>1548302
>I dont actually have a job, the post

>>1548301
Why is this one $800?

That big earthquake xt from harbor fright is surprisingly good.

>>1548324
I don't want a plastic one though

Ingersol is the best you can get

>>1548577
I've been looking at the 231ha. That or the cp749.

Any idea which one is more powerful? Published numbers say the 749 is, but who knows how fake those numbers are.

>>1548629

couple IRs at work theyre pretty damn good if i was gonna buy another i would buy one of those

but really electric is fucking awesome i almost never use air unless for the 1 inch gun when i really need some jamb

did you cleanup and regrease the impact assembly, the weights n shit

if you take it apart again, look for the ramp. its the piece the ball bearing rolls on. in the snap on guns, where the ramp starts and stops theres a realllly noticable ridge just before the ascent/descent that the ball gets momentarily stuck on.

take this piece out and smooth the transition out with a grinder, be careful

you'll notice a massive improvement in how smooth and hard it hits, also wheel bearing grease the tits off the whole thing.

also you gotta go with one of pic related, anything else is meme tier garb you wont be happy with

>>1548729
The snapon I rebuilt uses a twin hammer mechanism with an oil bath. The hammers and anvil looked great but the mechanism doesn't lock up as much as other twin hammer ones I've messed with. I'll keep that in mind though next time I work on a pin clutch wrench.
>>1548732
Thosw do look badass, but I already have a 2135 that works great.

>>1548310
Mind explaining the reasoning behind this? What is wrong with electric impact wrenches?

>>1548278
I use the IR 2135ti (i dont believe the 2235 was around then.) I've used it for years and it has never let me down, I picked up the mid sized half inch Miluakee to ditch the line dance around hoisted vehicles. The Milwaukee easily does 80% of what I ask it, the rest of the time I either try the 9ah battery or go straight to digging the IR out and I no longer have a problem. Have fun making your decision anon. If you don't have one electric wratchets are a game changer as well.

>>1549004
Thanks. I've been looking at cordless impacts, but generally theyre bulky and I'm not a fan of that. I have a 2135 too and it's great, but for some autistic reason I want an all metal impact.

>>1548310
>he doesn't know cordless is more powerful
get with the times gramps

>>1549187
>but for some autistic reason I want an all metal impact.

acknowledged. I'm OCD too. teh all metal part is out there

>>1548278
not even memeing, but the harbor freight earthquake impact is the best bang for your buck.

>>1548342
get the biggest air powered thing you can find on craigslist then.

>>1549192
No u

Ingersol rand thunder gun its inexpensive lots of power i use it everyday never oil it maybe once a week still works good

>>1549196
I have the 3/8 version of the aluminum earthquake and I like it aside from the power selector. Definitely in the running but I am wondering if there is something better out there.

>>1548874
nothing, nothing at all.

but if you have an air compressor.... get the fuckin' air tools. its like a welder, you don't know how awesome and useful it is till you get one, and then you kick yourself in the ass for not getting something decently powered and end up upgrading in 6 months after your tired of flux core spatter and shitty heat control.

funny this popped up, today at work we used a harbor freight half inch impact rated at around 250 ft lbs. we use them underwater btw. it did ok but not quite enough ass, so we got another HF still half inch just rated for double the ft lbs, still underwater that shit got the nuts lose. a 1 and 9/16 nylock at 200 ft lbs . it feels like shit and probably wont last. also they are hit and miss. the first one we got was a lemmon. returned for the same model easily 5 times better. but for a 3 day job its worth 50 bucks. the air compressor is the pricey part anyways

>>1549197
that's a 1" dumb fuck

>>1549203
i have the compressor and the tools and i don't fucking use them. cordless is better in every single way with the exception of die grinders, hammers and more specialty tools and that's mostly because cordless versions simply don't exist

>>1549209
Goalposts. jpg

>>1548874
>>1549192
>>1549203
>>1549212

For the same amount of power, you're spending 2, 3 times as much as you would on an air gun; let alone batteries and chargers. If you don't have compressed air on tap already, then it's a worthy consideration, because buying an air compressor, hoses, fittings and reels can also add up. Name-brand air guns are also user-serviceable, although parts can be expensive or difficult to find. If your electric gun takes a shit, you're buying a new one.

From a cost-benefit perspective, air tends to win out, short or long term. There are situations where an electric may be advantageous, and I'll be the first to admit that I hate being tethered by the air line, especially in tight quarters, but there's a reason electrics haven't disrupted the market for air tools.

I say this as someone who's been eyeing a Makita 1/2 impact, just to get work done faster, but I can't justify the cost. It would cost twice as much as I spent on my airgat, and--well, just today I had a set of Chrysler lugnuts that almost made me reach for the 3/4 gun. There's no way an electric would have handled that job. Strongest cordless seems to top out around 600 ft/lbs peak. I have a mini-1/2" that cost me around $100 bucks that squeaks out 650 ft/lbs; my full-size churns out 1200 ft/lbs, easy. You can say they're stronger, but they're not.

>>1548278
I really love Aircat. They're absolutely the quietest series on the market. I personally go with composite, the 1250 has been worth every penny and I would absolutely buy it again over any other option out there. Pound for pound, nothing else has been more powerful and more comfortable. Aircat makes a metal-body gun; if you're concerned at all about noise, I'd strongly recommend trying one of their products out. Hearing damage adds up and it adds up quickly. Even with hearing protection, reducing your overall exposure is the best preventative measure you could take.

>>1549213
thread is clearly about 1/2" impacts you dense nigger.

>>1549214
not really. you buy a kit once and you have 2 batteries + charger then you just buy bare tools. bare tools are often around the same or even less then high quality air tools. you're right about servicing but some of the cordless tools are actually pretty serviceable too although you might have to use chink parts sometimes.

>There's no way an electric would have handled that job
you haven't actually used either the Dewalt or Milwaukee brushless impacts then. if the nuts won't come loose those impacts will just snap the cock suckers right off

>>1549215
1/2" paolis still smoke your cordless tools

>>1549221
no they don't and no one wants your shitty Italian plastic junk

>>1548278
don't replace the impact until you've replaced the 1/4" hose and quick connectors with a straight 5/16" hose back to the tank.

>>1549229
>not using 3/4"
fucking pleb

https://www.tooltopia.com/aircat-1431.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&adpos=1o2&scid=scplpACA1431&sc_intid=ACA1431&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_67nptej4AIVBMZkCh1JRAEGEAQYAiABEgKLcfD_BwE

Yea or gay?

>>1549231
With oetiker fittings ofc

>>1548874
>What is wrong with electric impact wrenches?

Nothing, unless you need to actually use them all day long at which you have a carousel of batteries to contend with.

>>1549192
The air tools are powerful enough already, its not a problem with power its a problem with practicality.

>>1549227
>your shitty Italian plastic junk

Funny, coming from someone defending chinese plastic cordless junk

>>1549227
Magnesium and carbon fiber, and plenty of people in motorsports do.

I remember old IS snapping lug nuts off back in the early 80's

me and another guy worked at Goodyear we could mount and balance 4 tires in 10 minutes
I could grease and slide a tire on the rim with the tool bar and not hitting a pedal. Did 3 piece slpit rims and calcium fill tractor tires with a duck bill sledge and spoons...Kids these days meh I can still kick your ass

>>1549238
>unless you need to actually use them all day long

and that literally no one on this fucking site

>The air tools are powerful enough already
false

>>1549239
Italian subhumans aren't even close to chink quality

>>1549197
>he doesnt have a cordless 1" impact wrench

>>1550070

It seems unbelievable that a battery that size can do 1" impact work for any useful length of time. If it can, the technology is amazing.

>>1550070
Have they released the specs for that piece of shit yet? Hell is the tool even out?

>>1550072
I highly doubt it’ll be anywhere near a 1” air impact. The 3/4 battery ones are really only slightly better then the 1/2”. I love cordless impacts but for bigger drives air is still the way to go

>>1549251
Tractor tires are still done pretty much the same way. Simply not worth having a machine big enough to handle those tires especially considering most tractor tires are changed/repaired in the field

>>1549207
arnt there specialty tool companies like Nemo Underwater that make equipment better suited to that kind of work?

>>1550075
its hiding in the corner of their 2019 M18 Fuel lineup photo but it doesnt have any official specs, hell it doesnt even have a model number yet.

most people estimate it to have around 2000ft/lbs in the final production model, in their tech demonstration they had it up against a corded Makita model that put out similar numbers.

>>1550085
I highly doubt it’ll have 2000ft/lbs. if it does it’ll be the first Milwaukee tool I ever buy. I’d guess more like 1400-1600 tops

>>1549207
What job are you doing?

>>1550091
their current high torque 1/2" Impact Wrench is rated at 1400ft/lbs of "nut busting" power and the 1" model has a much larger drive assembly so i can easily see that kind of power, especially with a 12.0 battery.

>>1550125
It’s been proven 1400ft/lbs is total bull shit. They are great impacts but they are inflating their numbers quite a bit. They are more powerful then air that’s for sure but in real world conditions they aren’t THAT much better

>>1550125
>>1550165
It’s that magic phrase “Bustin Nuts”, it’s not a real fuckin torque number. That one boring youtube goy got like 700ft-lbs of real torque? Or maybe it was a very peak over just over 1000 in reverse. That’s stonk for an electric gun, it would be good on a 1/2” air gun, but get the fuck outta here throwing out 1” impact wrench numbers.

>>1550091
>2000
It won’t be that strong. AvE actually had a good theory on this part, I think it was when he tore down the Earthquake gun, The current numbers are pretty close to the peak before you need to step up to a 3/4” or 1” drive because of steel. Unless you come up with some new material that is super strong and commercially viable, all of that torque still needs to go through a 1/2” anvil. Overbuild the motor and hammers and send as many amps as you want or send 20CFM at 200psi through the tool but it’s still a 1/2” square piece of material going into the socket.

recommend me a 220v Impact wrench, /diy/
as referred above, in europe

>>1549214

If your electric gun takes a shit, you're buying a new one.

u wot

theyre easily fixable

youve obviously never used electric and are just trying to justify your money spent on the compressor and air tools

having extensively used both, cordless is better in almost every aspect. and by almost i mean over 90 percent of the time

>>1551218
What kind of scrub doesn't have an air compress...
>tripfag
Oh

>>1548278
I use common chinesium ones and crank pressure to 10-12 bar or even up to 16 when need be, then turn it back down
Usually works and because it's cheap I don't care about it wearing down too fast or breaking
Works only if your compressor is powerful enough

>>1549253
>and that literally no one on this fucking site

Its really not that hard to get a job anon

Though you are right, this site IS full of larping idiots who drool over spec and numbers on the side of cordless tool boxes.

>>1550185
the definitely have more reverse torque which is the biggest advantage over air but they are still throwing out bull shit numbers. the very fact that they STILL haven't released the 1" specs despite shilling the thing like crazy says a lot. honestly i don't really even need the torque of a 1" (usually) but it is much easier to find sockets 2" and above in 1" drive so i'm interested in one

>>1550188
not only the anvil but the bolts you're working with can only take so much. both the Dewalt and Milwaukee 1/2" brushless are already more then capable of twisting off good sized bolts especially when they are old and rusty. either way they setup their testing using all kinds of bull shit to ensure they get the highest result possible for marketing. if we actually had some sort independent testing or even just a standardized industry wide testing method i might actually trust these cock suckers to not lie

>>1551591
of course it's easy to get a job but how many people here do you think actually regularly use these tools much less use them all day every day?

i'll admit i don't even use them all that much and as a farmer i'm constantly fixing shit but it's more of a seasonal thing for me

>>1551271

guy the place i work has an 80 gal 7 horse ingerslol screw compressor

literally all the air i need for anything

i still choose electric over air 90% of the time

>>1552654
>guy the place i work has an 80 gal 7 horse ingerslol screw compressor

Its a shame that, being the janitor, you dont get to use all of those wonderful tools right?

>>1548278
>cheap (one hunid doll hairs)
>smol
>500 ft-lbs of TORK U
>a cute
>2 yarr warntee
>petite (~2.5 lbs)
>made in big ROC candy mountain (not Mao's Pound Land).
>one-hand operation (keep ur willy secure)
>cool name (nitrokitty)
>fucking BULLET PROOF -- made of kevlar
honestly why don't you already own this?

>>1552781
Kek, I don’t even know the size of our compressor but it runs a 1” IR impact that is bretty dope.

I never pulled the trigger on the thing but my shop has it.

>>1548732
>>1549004

I have a 2235ti and it does everything I need i to do around the shop. would recommend, 10/10.

>>1552654
>>1552781

ran a 1 inch the other day finishing up a D6N cat ripper ----> winch swap

winch mount studs call for 1600 ft lb, 2 3/4 inch socket for the nuts
we dont have a janitor

>>1553163
I'd rather the CP all metal stubby tbhfam