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lets get a thread with all aspects of removing metal from metal.

angle grinders, die grinders, belt grinders, bench grinders, wheels, belts, burrs, flapperwheels, homemade pieces of shi---nicely fabricated units.

pic related, the best angle grinder money can buy. take that gay guard and handle off there and you got yourself 13.something amps of spinny winny. thats almost as much as that guys welder.

walter 40 grit flap discs + zip cuts are the fucking bees tits prove me wrong

>> No.1546976

>>1546972
>dewalt
>rat tail
>implying its a good idea taking the guard and handle off

suuuuure thing buddy you sound reputable

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>>1546976
He thinks he's hardcore by taking the guard off

>> No.1547003
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>Milwaukee tripfag
>posts a Where's DeWaldo? grinder

Anyway, Judas Priest are pretty cool. This is now a Judas Priest General

>> No.1547052

I like my cordless Makita grinders, thanks

>> No.1547094

The Harbor Freight $10 specials are great to have laying around preloaded with cup/wire brushes and flap discs. I'd never consider putting a cutting wheel on one, though.

>> No.1547097

>>1547094
>I'd never consider putting a cutting wheel on one, though.

Explain your logic.

>> No.1547109

>>1547097
Cutting wheels/discs are made of 100% Explodium. Go off angle in the middle of your cut by a few fractions of a degree and you better hope your face mask works.

Do you really think a $10 HF grinder isn't going to have 5 degrees or more of slop in the shaft?

>> No.1547112

>>1547109

Ok, I see your point. My problem is that I've used and abused thin and thick grinding disks in decent and not-so-decent grinders, and have worn them down to the nub, without having one explode. So, I'll have to shoot one through my skull to learn better.

I wear eye protection and keep the plane of the disk away from my head, but one of these days...

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>>1547112
UVEX S8500 face shield by Honeywell is only $16.70 on Amazon right now (I bought mine at $19.95) and a spare visor is only $5. Seriously consider protecting your head for $22.

The nagle grinder is my most feared tool.

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Are these terrible

>> No.1547140

>>1547112
In twenty years in construction, I've seen five accidents:
Four were angle grinders, one was a circular saw being used by a woman (ya).
Personally, I had a thin disk fly apart; thankfully was wearing my safety glasses.
Still took a shard right between the eyes over the nose piece, but could've been much, much worse.

>> No.1547197

>>1546972
Lack of guards are for LiveLeak vids.

>> No.1547202

>>1547122
>0.88hp

So, it has slightly more horsepower than a Dremel? It must be 110v 6amp.

>> No.1547218

>>1546972
Anyone else never seen a disc explode before? I've only gone through maybe a thousand or so disc's but not one exploded. I even broke one stepping on it and used it anyway before because I had a truck frame between me and the tool making a blind cut, figured let's see what happens. It was nothing, just got annoying to use

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1547219

>>1546972
>take that gay guard and handle off

>> No.1547221

>>1547218
Ive never seen one explode, even with how dangerous and dumb I was in the past.
For me that makes it an even more scary situation.

>> No.1547230

>>1547122
subtle troll is subtle

>> No.1547233

>>1547221
Yeah, I personally take my own safety pretty lightly. I'm sure when people watch me work they're on edge and all, but Ive heard enough to know if my old ladies around I'll make her wear proper stuff and my eventual children as well assuming I have no seriously unfortunate accidents by then but for me it's hard to take it all seriously when I've been acting the way I do for over a decade now with nothing but small cuts from razor blades and glass to show for it. Last time I went to the hospital was from dropping my coffee cup in front of me midstep and it finding a way under my foot, and before that was from about 15 years earlier sprained my wrist skateboarding. If I think about it, it does scare me when I'll get mine but I don't often think about it

>> No.1547238

>>1547219
is he ok

>> No.1547256

>>1547233
It only takes once, bro.
There's generally not a safety net in place for guys like us.
Lose an eye or cut off a thumb, or,
Fall off of a roof.
It's over.
So, it is about your old lady's well-being in the long run to look after yourself.

>> No.1547289

>>1547256
Not him, but actually my significant other has a stake in me dying at work. She gets like $100k in cash and then my average annual wage until the age I would have retired from my company (I think, maybe my union, although I think its mandated by my union agreement that my company has to pay it). Then like another 500k or something from my life insurance

>> No.1547296

>>1547140
I worked in a playground equipment factory for a while. Saw a Mexican grind his stomach a good one with a stone. The other accidents I saw was a black guy nailfun his hand to a pallet, and a woman ripped her shirt mostly off with a drill/holesaw. She was literally "I can do anything a man does" and missing her shirt and redfaced 2 seconds later.

>> No.1547335

>>1547296
Same Anon here, I can beat that if we are going factory.
I worked in a rubber factory, just out of high school;
I was trained to be a mixer operator, which meant I loaded raw materials into a gargantuan mixer,
It made about a 1,500 ball of raw rubber, which would then drop out a mill.
Now the mill was ruthless- the ball of rubber would be squished in the mill into thin pieces and milled repeatedly,
Then the Mill Guy would cut it off and run it through a cooler.
So, about a month into this endeavor, my mill guy got his sleeve stuck between the rollers.
COMPLETELY MILLED.
OH THE HORROR.
Even 20 yrs ago, I had a monitor in the mixing booth were I could watch the mill guys.
Pancaked his whole body.
They closed down Mixer #12 for a whole 24 hours.
Nothing stops the machine.
I quit about a month later.

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>>1547296
I worked on a lawn crew for a summer. A new guy literally said he had done this for years for another company. One pass with an electric hedge trimmer and he had cut its own power cord.

>>1547202
It is a pneumatic tool. It runs on air. Are you the guy I used to work with above?

>>1546972
>pic related, the best angle grinder money can buy.
No, that would be the Black & Decker Wildcat. This is what top of the line angle grinders looked like before they started making them out of plastic in China. 13 amps? 6 inch wheels? That is for babies. The top end Wildcat was 15 amps and could swing a 9 inch wheel. Oh, and put the guard back on it. I don't need my tax dollars going to pay your disability.

>> No.1547443

glad to see the thread was mostly well received.

fuck guards, fuck handles, dont buy cheap zipcuts, dont cut so the grinder kicks towards you, know its limits. keep plane of disc outwards and paralell to your body. and accept the risk. ive got thousands of hours on an angle grinder and only had discs blow up when im doing something reaaaaalllyy stupid

>> No.1547879

>>1547238
no he died a short time later from a vitamin deficiency

>> No.1547884

>>1547373
Fuck those monsters goddamn.
>Yeah crawl in the hole with that bastard and grind all this shit out overhead. No trigger lock lol fuck you because OSHA. K cya later I'll check back on your progress in three hours :^)

>> No.1547885

>picked dewalt over anything
>guard off

T R U S T A B L E

>> No.1547960

>>1547443
>fuck guards, fuck handles
wow truly retarded.
guard is incredibly helpful for directing waste if nothing else.
i can't begin to imagine why you would discard the control a handle gives when dealing with the kind of rotational inertia a grinder has. have you ever used one? why pretend to make it unnecessarily difficult and dangerous to handle?

>tripfag
oh now it makes sense.

>> No.1548067

>>1547219
Oh that fiberglass is gonna itch for a long time.

>> No.1548071

The Dewalt I have the guard moves with a press of the button it'd be more of a hassle to take the guard off than leave it on and move it when needed

>> No.1548088

>>1547960
imagine being in a muddy tunnel needing to cut apart cast iron pipe while laying on your back or belly. i probably go thru 2 grinders a year, give or take i have a corded Matabo that is still alive. i get the corded Dewalts but to be honest they last just as long as the porter cable harbor freight ones so might as well buy the cheap shit cause of the way i abuse them. ive used the battery Milwaukee ones, those are cool. anyway i throw out the blade guards and handle with the box it came in, its just not "feesable" they get in the way, just hold on and keep the blase away from you so if it ever exploded it wouldn't splay off into your face, in 10 years i blew up 2 blades outta like ~400

>> No.1548096

>>1547960

there are days when i spend the majority of it on a grinder

handles get in the way

dont put your face in the line of fire dipshit and wear your safety glasses, never do i not wear safety glasses.

explain how in 20+ years of home/hobby/work use of a grinder i have never once had a moment when i thought hmm a guard would have been nice.

literally all accidents you hear about grinders are retard semi yearly basedboys who shouldnt be on a grinder anyways

a properly used and respected grinder poses not nearly enough threat to warrant that dumb fucking guard.

there are a lot of things you need to pay attention to, to use a grinder safely

-am i in line of fire
-is disc spinning perpendicular and at the same level as the throat (huge no no)
-how will the metal react once i near the cut
-only ever shook sparks towards yourself, if you grind or cut shooting sparks away from yourself put the grinder down and please do not pick it back up
-always be prepared for the grinder to buck, expect it and learn what does and does not cause this
-dont out of round your wheels, they'll wear out 100 times faster
-this means you tards that bounce the fuck out of a zipcut, it should be smooth. reclamp your shit

if youre putting yourself in situations where the guard seems mandatory and is saving you, then yes keep the guard on as you clearly dont know how to use a grinder correctly.

>> No.1548099

>>1547960

if you cant hang on to a grinder without a handle then maybe look at wrist and forearm exercises

i have no troubles with the very minor rotational inertia

>> No.1548103

>>1548096
the hell are you doing spending most the day using a handheld grinder?

>> No.1548122

>>1548103
Sounds like he is a shitty welder. Bodge up some unholy mess in 20 minutes and spend 3 hours grinding it down so it doesn't look like a bunch of grapes.

>> No.1548140

>>1548122

i wish

i sometimes get the honors of wire wheeling our kenworth box trucks' boxes. the entire box, to bare metal. takes about 2 days.

salt sand mix rusts em the fuck out so we strip and paint semi occasionally

>> No.1548141

>>1548122

and i consider myself a heavy duty mechanic, that just happens to weld sometimes

>> No.1548532

>>1548122
Or ya know, beveling pipes to weld in the field on any industrial piping job.