[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/diy/ - Do It Yourself


View post   

File: 73 KB, 800x600, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521569 No.1521569 [Reply] [Original]

I know next to nothing about garbage disposals or DIY in general. My disposal used to drain water very, very slowly, then one day stopped working altogether. I was advised by someone who knows slightly more than me to buy a new disposal. My disposal is hooked up like in the attached image, with the horizontal pipe coming straight out of the side, but nearly every other picture/tutorial I find online has an extra little tube that bends downwards at a 90 degree angle, which connects to the horizontal tube going out. Is this possibly why it was draining slowly originally? Is the force of gravity through this small extra tube enough to ensure better water flow, or is this (as in the attached image) an acceptable way to hook up a garbage disposal?

>> No.1521570
File: 425 KB, 1464x1200, DSC03005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521570

You can see the extra 90 degree pipe piece I am referring to in this image.

>> No.1521574
File: 172 KB, 434x306, Screenshot_2018-12-22_10-58-14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521574

>>1521569

who the fuck produced this gaytarded abomination?

>> No.1521576

>>1521574
Luckily mine at home isn't so bad. This isn't my picture, it was just the first one I found that had the pipe attached directly to the unit without those 90 degree bits in between.

>> No.1521577

>>1521576

as long as that horizontal pipe is not tilted upward it should drain about the same in both configurations.

>> No.1521584

>>1521577
Okay, thank you very much. That's all I wanted to know. Off to buy a new unit to swap out, I hope I don't fuck it up!

>> No.1521642

Just had this same issue and it was the dishwasher pump not the disposal. My understanding is the disposal has nothing to do with pulling the water from the dishwasher, there is a pump that pumps it out.

>> No.1521651

>>1521642
>it was the dishwasher pump not the disposal

so, do dishwashers and disposals come as a set? I'd think the dishwasher would simply tap into the drain line with its own adapter.

>> No.1521673

>>1521584
I just replaced mine last week and it was a piece of cake.
Three things:
1. Don't forget to knock out and remove the plastic tab inside the dishwasher connector before hooking anything up.
2. The only difficult part is getting the snap ring around the drain flange.
3. Looks like the electric connection is 14/2 armored cable instead of a plug to a wall outlet - so you'll need to attach those wires inside the disposal instead of using the usual accessory kit that includes a plug. Make sure the power is OFF.

>> No.1521683

>>1521569
>My disposal used to drain water very, very slowly, then one day stopped working altogether.
>>1521642
>Just had this same issue and it was the dishwasher pump not the disposal.

Please explain how the dishwasher causes the disposer to drain slowly or not at all.
Disposers can work in applications where there is no dishwasher - how do they do that?

>> No.1521687

>>1521651
The dish washer drains into the garbage disposal, so that any food waste can be chopped up the next time you use the disposal

>> No.1521692

>>1521687
>so that any food waste can be chopped up the next time you use the disposal

well that makes sense. thanks.

>> No.1521720
File: 1.62 MB, 2448x3264, 1545513397188227378903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521720

Here's mine and it works fine. It's hard to tell but it is slightly, maybe one degree downsloped. That was on purpose according to the instructions. It works fine. Honestly it's so close to level I think that would be fine to. I do have a dishwasher attached but have never used it in 6 yrs. So I assume that would work fine, but the sink drains fine.

>> No.1521729

>>1521687
Side Note: Make sure the hose from the dishwasher runs up higher than the connection to the garbage disposal or water will run from the sink / drain back into the dishwasher and you will have water constantly in the dishwasher and possibly it will leak onto the floor

>> No.1521783

>>1521729
>drain back into the dishwasher
dishwashers have a check-valve to prevent this
still not bad advice
note the connection in >>1521570

>> No.1521785

>>1521783
codes in most areas here require an air-gap on new installations of dishwashers

>> No.1521787

>>1521783
yeah I'm use to working on old shit

>> No.1521788
File: 29 KB, 1504x712, ZTxZJ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521788

>>1521720

I wouldn't have glued so many joints. typically nothing is glued under a sink, and it's easy to disassemble when your bf fills it full of grease.

>> No.1521791

>>1521720
Personally I never glue up sink drains, nor does anyone else for that matter
Too much trouble if you ever have to mess with it

>> No.1521821

>>1521788
>>1521791
It's got a fernco in there to make it easy to get apart.
I'm betting it was added after the first time that shit needed working on.

>> No.1521825
File: 83 KB, 607x500, charliebitmyfniger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1521825

>>1521821
>a fernco

yes. always put a fermco.

or two.

>> No.1521828

>>1521821
yeah so what you still have to drop the disposal and then hope that whole mess will have room to spin
Whole thing took 3 times as long and cost 3 times as much and not one benefit

>> No.1521831

>>1521569
sweet mother of god
thats fucked up as a soup sandwich on boiled toast

>> No.1521866

The reason for using glue together fittings is because as far as I could tell all the other ones that screw together and use those compression rings reduce right off the rip, I didn't want to reduce. As a benefit I can drain my 20ish gallon sink in about 2 seconds. Which comes in handy for cooking pasta.

>> No.1521868

>>1521866
>use 6" next time Bozo

>> No.1521873

>>1521868
well the sink has a 1 1/2" drain on it, so I wanted to stick with 1 1/2 going up to 6 will not increase flow, using the screw together kinds were all 1 or maybe even smaller.

hook a fucking six inch drain line up to a sink. and Im the one doing it wrong

>> No.1521875

>>1521788
>I wouldn't have glued so many joints
I would have

I hate those effing slip connections

>> No.1521924

Yeah, the pipes are weird looking, but they work fine so just replace your disposal for now OP.
You can turn the pipe thing into a less-urgent future /diy/ project.

>> No.1521958

>>1521873
>using the screw together kinds were all 1 or maybe even smaller.
screw together drain tube with compression coupling is 1-1/2" for kitchen and 1-1/4" for vanity

>> No.1521981

>>1521958
That's what it says on the package. Open it,measure it.

>> No.1521990

If you cant plumb a drain you deserve to get ass raped by some pos tweeker plumber

>> No.1521993

>>1521866
>cooking pasta
dumbest fucking reason ever heard congrats Luigi

>> No.1522023

>>1521981
>Open it,measure it.
I don't have a new package but I have a small section of the 1-1/2" right here.
The OD is 1.50 - the wall thickness is .025
ergo, the ID is 1.50 -.05 or 1.45
a bit more than
>>1521958
>all 1 or maybe even smaller.

>> No.1522294

>>1522023
thats the wrong part to measure. Fuck your bad at this.

>> No.1522302

>>1521993
I guess your family gatherings consist of busch light and pizza hut.

>> No.1522348

>>1522302
is my web cam on?

>> No.1522376

I will never understand amerisharts obsession with these infernal contraptions.

>> No.1522379

>>1521584
Whoa! I'm a day late but, you can keep the old one for a back up. They usually get slow to drain because there is just rice or something in the horizontal pipe.

>> No.1522462
File: 326 KB, 1280x960, IMG_20181223_162012021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1522462

>>1521958
>drain tube with compression coupling is 1-1/2" for kitchen and 1-1/4" for vanity
>>1521981
>That's what it says on the package. Open it,measure it.

>> No.1522465
File: 268 KB, 1280x960, IMG_20181223_162243296.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1522465

>>1521981
>Open it,measure it.

>> No.1522467
File: 346 KB, 1280x960, IMG_20181223_162324913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1522467

>>1522294
>thats the wrong part to measure. Fuck your bad at this.
It's the part I described.

>> No.1522471

>>1522294
>Fuck your bad at this.
Fuck, you're bad a grammar.

>> No.1522472
File: 257 KB, 589x752, shot_of_black.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
1522472

>>1522471

this stupidity is possibly a new meme

>> No.1522501

>>1522467
What the fuck is wrong with your hand

Please stop smoking

>> No.1522503

>>1522501
>What the fuck is wrong with your hand
It's 75 years old.
>>1522501
>Please stop smoking
I don't smoke. (or drink)

>> No.1522530

>>1522467
/diy/ summed up in one picture

>> No.1522538

>>1522471
Yeah it devolced to a Grammer argument. Which has no bearing on yiur ability to measure. Which u Kant so suck adick faggut.

>> No.1522540

>>1522471
U missed a t.

>> No.1522546

Plumber here, I like to work backward. The first thing I notice is there is a straight PVC pipe coming from your disposal. Waste pipes should always be pitched so waste can flow downward. Hence why there's an elbow (90° pipe fittjng) in your example picture. That elbow gives your waste momentum to go downward. Its proabable to me that your garbage has backed up due to a clog in the pipe coming straight out of your disposal. That backup could break your disposal motor or, if your disposal has a check valve built into its waste outlet, that could break too and be stuck open.
The first thing I'd do is take your straight pipe off of the disposal and waste line and check to see if its clogged. If it is, go to the store and buy 1 90° elbow, two straight pipes, and make sure they give you nuts and washers. All the pipes you need should be 1.5 inches in diameter. But I cant be sure looking at the picture. If you measure the pipe with a tape measure, and Im right, t'll be over 1.5inches. A 1.25in pipe is just over 1.25in and so on so forth. Don't expect exact measurement. They are always a little over the diameter on the outside.

>> No.1522553

>>1522546
In any case, if you buy a new disposal or not, you'll need a pipe cutter and tape measure to measure out the piping yourself. I'm gonna say this is self explanatory but you'll probably mess it up. Buy some extra pipe just in case. And don't cut your 90° elbow.
In fact, if you want to do things right, you'll buy two 45° fittings and make an offset. But lets not get a head of ourselves. You'll need two pairs of channel locks, a pipe cutter, a tape measure, and the pipe fittings I mentioned earlier. Make sure you ask them nicely to give you extra nuts and washers. Then go on youtube and find someone to teach you how to use those tools and hook up a new disposal. I gave you my advice.

>> No.1522557

>>1521574
These are some serious handyman antics.

>> No.1522569

Just clean the side pipe and put it back.

OP might be too embarrassed to admit that's all it needed. 150 bucks later.

>> No.1522607

>>1521574
Obviously it's a b-trap. Not like any traps I've ever seen on /b/, but you get the idea. Looks like 4chan is taking over plumbing code now.