/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1507664
Their newer saws haven't pleased me very much. We've blown through a number of saws over the years and the Stihls have lasted for fewer and fewer hours with each model that comes out.

Not that Husky's are a lot better. Their saws are almost frozen in time. They last but they don't change them much. I guess that is the trade-off.

Meanwhile, we have an old warhorse of a Homelite (light blue) that won't die. Only the old timers use it because it has no chain brake and it is heavy as fuck but it easily has 5x as many hours on it as any other saw we're ever had. I guess sometimes the assembly line Gods bless a machine to last forever. Like that 1 of 1,000 kinda of deal.

>>1507664
>no carb?

i picked up a $5 used and abused stihl 017 from some landscaping company with a broken handle to play with, took it apart - found teh carb was spotless and seemed to be original. all the fuel lines looked original and still flexible. put it back together and it started right up. also got an old Macullough - the lines rot out every year and so do the damn diaphragms/gaskets/primers

>>1507670
My problem with husky was always weight. Sure they last for ever, you can make anything long life if you allow yourself all the metal bearings and reinforcement in the world. Stihl has been making an increasingly worse product every year for the last 20 though

The China carbs on their newer models are junk.
I hope the fuel injection is better.

So does the saw have a battery on it to run the injection?

>>1507961
yo bro get the cables, i need to jumpstart my 2-stroke chainsaw

>>1507961
most likely it has a stator

>>1507664
Its got fucked up gas caps I won't buy

>>1507743
This. Don't know about this new FI system but Stihl has been a garbage brand for at least the last 10 years. Still popular because of their legacy but it's just Chijese shit now. When my old Stihl from 1991 ever finally shits the bed I don't know what I'll do.

>>1507664
Holy shit this things cuts like a hot knife through butter.

>>1507664
Take your archaic garbage and shove it up your ass.

>>1508524
>makita
>buying chink shit instead of American hardware

>>1508528
>chink shit
There was no mention of Milwaukee there.

>>1507664
Visit arborist sites instead of this place if you want serious saw info. 4chan is for bantz.

>>1508524
That won't run with a serious gasser saw. Nice for dadcore shrub maintenance though.

>>1508541
Oh, yeah. I forgot everyone needs those 8kg saws to take down some Swiss mountain pine, silly me better get some gas.
https://youtu.be/MDyjY3uiWp0?t=255

>>1508545
>Wranglestar
Dropped in one fucking heartbeat.

>>1508561
Am I supposed to be impressed? Sorry for not knowing any of your e-celeb youtube faggots.

Ecco saws 4 teh win

>>1508563
You should know that faggot is a faggot.

>>1508524
No, thanks, I want my saw to run for more than five minutes and I don't want to spend 10 000 American pesos for a truckload of batteries just to get what an one gallon tank of gas gives me

>>1508572
Yup. They use alkaline batteries, totally unrechargable, and gas and 2 stroke oil is free.

>with fuel injection and no carb

Sounds like they added more components that can potentially break. Like you need an ECU for your chainsaw now? Come on...

>>1508524
>electric

My man

>>1508524
Once Makita comes out with 8.0Ah bats this thing will be able to run around 30-40 minutes, they've been slow on the battery front, so there'll probably be a new version of that saw by the time that comes out.

>>1507670
I bought a MS382 this summer and I'm very impressed

>>1508621
30-40 minutes? That's great. But stihls are used all day every day by landscapers, loggers, and others. Stihl makes a rescue chain for firefighters and other emergency services, for example. Battery can't do what gas can.

>>1507670
at least the Huskies fucking last. Echo is also good. Stihl has really gone to shit over the last decade and a half. they honestly couldn't pay me to use a Stihl these days

>>1508563
it only takes 5 seconds of watching to realize he's just a faggot shill

>>1508621
>30-40 minutes
and while your sit there recharging your pussy ass saw i'll be actually working

>>1507670
Anon just described the Toyota Tundra of chainsaws. They last but shit never changes.

>>1508574
I didn't know there are electric sockets in forests

>>1508980
Yeah man. There's no way you can run a battery powered saw all day. On the other hand everybody knows you can just walk up to a gas tree in the middle of the forest, tap the bark, and fill up your ole 2 stroke.

>>1509244
Much easier to run a day with a jerry can than carrying a hundred pounds of batteries.
From a quick review of that saw.
>Runtime is completely dependent on the diameter and species of woods you’re cutting. For my tests, it was oak that had some central heart rot. So although the branch was roughly 12 inches x 16 inches, the reality is that had a 3-inch hole in the middle. Still, I made it through 9 full cuts using two 5.0 amp hour batteries. That may not seem like much, but when you move around to limbing and trimming branches in the 4 to 8-inch range, you’ll get dozens of cuts.
Batteries are fine for the occasional user who doesn't cut much or go for big wood.

>>1509244
But you can easily take on a truck enough gas to run the saw all year long, while carrying and owning enough batteries to use the saw for a day is too expensive and too impractical to be even considered as a possibility by a sane man.

Fuel injection is only for emissions compliance.

They don't even sell them in my country because we have no emissions regulations. I saw a brand new 720 on the shelf today.

>>1508621
I have one and it already runs 30-40 minutes on 4.0 Ah batteries, even cutting way above its bar length (20" rounds).
>>1508898
That means a second set of batteries will keep you cutting all day, they charge in about 40-50 minutes. If you really doubt though, you can get off brand 9.0 Ah batteries that get great reviews: https://www.amazon.com/Waitley-battery-9000mah-Replacement-Function/dp/B07CXKQRNC

They market this thing (correctly IMO) as a climbing saw (cutting 0-8" branches) in which case a charge will last 2-3 working hours.

>>1509246
>9 full cuts
my god that's bad. that's not even good for a fucking home owner just doing some trimming

>>1509422
Shit bro, thanksgiving was last month. What are you gonna use that chicken carver for?

>>1509291
But it has better power to weight ratio than any other saw, my Brazilian friend

>>1509422
what kind of twigs does that cut?

>>1507664
The last real saw was the 041. I picked up 5 dead ones for around 20€ / piece, rigged them up with new diaphragmas, chains, clutches and stuff. Sold two of them to cover the costs, been working the 3 now some 10 years, different chains for different diameters, about 3 months a year full time. Not a single Problem with them.
Fuel injektion is what us germans got for emmisson control, not for better performance, and definitely not for better maintenance.

>>1508524
That piece of hipster crap i would like to see in winter after a 2 hour hike through hip-deep snow trying to cut a 80 cm frozen oak.
THAT is what a gas-powered saw does, and THAT is what it has to be able to if it wants to be considered anything else then a money sink for wannabes

>>1509422
Sure if you’re somewhere that you’re able to charge it. Most people are cutting wood in the middle of the woods where there’s no power. Sure if you’re cutting up twigs you might get 40 min or maybe even an hour but go try cutting a log and see how long it lasts.

Fact is battery powered saws just aren’t useful for anyone that actually needs a saw.

>>1509678
Well it’s winter so battery life is already cut in half

>>1509678
>i would like to see in winter after a 2 hour hike through hip-deep snow trying to cut a 80 cm frozen oak.
thats not what its made for

I like how everyone ITT pretends they're a hobo from Alaska that walks 4 miles in neck deep snow to cut down 25 trees with a 2 meter circumference

>>1509422
Kek I would like to see 1 man with a pruning saw versus that thing and 10 batteries

>>1509953

It's actually the battery fags that draw out the "lumberjacks".

Battery fags are always the source of the chainsaw thread derailing.

>>1509953
not from Alaska but my house is heated by wood so yeah i cut a lot of wood. also have to clean fallen trees and branches around fields every year and a battery powered saw wouldn't even be useful for that. fire wood is almost always cut from fall to spring so generally colder temperatures and that alone already fucks a battery saw

they could be somewhat useful for someone that just needs to cut the odd branch or small tree but then the cost factor kicks in. you can buy a chink gas saw perfectly capable of the job for $100 or you could buy a battery powered saw for $500 and have to replace the battery in a year or 2. for the same price as that battery powered saw you could buy a 50cc Echo or Husky and have a saw that'll last a lifetime

>>1510143
That makita up in the thread costs $180€, if you already have Makita tools, and you should if you have any power tools, you likely already have batteries.

>>1509291
Fuel injections decreases noise, weight, emissions and increases fuel efficiency, which allow you to put in a bigger engine compared to carb.
At the cost of price and complexity, you're not likely to repair these things now.

>>1510219
>you're not likely to repair these things now.

And that’s the entire reason they did it. How many people actually go to dealers to get their saw worked on? You can buy a brand new carb for $15 online and rebuild the engine for about $100 so why the fuck would anyone ever go to the dealer?

>>1510339
Companies, they lease out shit anyway and just chuck it away once it's done.
This is a $2000 chainsaw, your average bloke won't be buying it

>>1509945
...you fell wood in winter, when the sap is mostly out of it. Unless you want to prolong the drying period for some years, ofc.
If that toy is only good for snipping of twigs in spring it can be easily replaced by a handsaw on a stick. That one would have the added advantage of being completely noiseless.

>>1510339
Ofc, there might be one or the other who has no clue how to rebuild an engine. Believe it or not, not every lumberjack is a skilled mechanic on top ;)

>>1512509
It’s literally just 4 bolts. Fucking anyone can do it and on most saws it only takes 10 min.

>>1512563
Rebuilding an engine :

New piston rings, new seals on crankshaft, new bearings all around. Complete disassemble, cleaning of oil tank. The older ones might need a new oil pump. Throw out point ignition, insert electronic one. New clutch, new drive (?) For Chain , Rebuild carb with new diaphragmas , and so on.

4 Bolts, 10 minutes? I'm impressed ;)

FYI Stihl chainsaws sold in North America are made in Virgina Beach, Virgina. There are factories in Germany and China as well those saws are sold in their respective regions. Also Stihl has a 30 volt electric system that includes a small chain saw among many other tools. Stihl even has an automated lawn mower.

>>1507664
Never even seen a pic but i love it already.

FUCK CARBS

>>1507664
Also. I'd fucking hope it aint got a carb with fuel injection

>>1516969
Why

Tfw no common rail turbodiesel chainsaw

>>1518671

>Asking for the most finnicky diesel fuel delivery

>>1507664
I would buy a much cheaper echo with a carb, port the exhaust and remove the cat, re-tune, and have a reliable cheap powerful saw. Wait I already did that.

>>1508528
>implying all makita is made in china
you're getting mixed up with that tti milwaukee shit

>>1518758

Based lawncare motor porting poster