/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1499655
Tripfag, it look like your shitty house is sinking into the ground bro

>>1499655

What is a reasonable estimate for:

>1200 sq ft
>1 story
>US Northeast

If I plan on doing the following

>drywall
>all interior wiring
>flooring

Thanks

>>1499655
What city do you work in usually? im Also a contractor and usually work in Edina/Orono/longlake/Medina. New builds or remodels? How’s business

>>1499696
Depending on finish level, and floor choice 20-40k

>>1499655
I'd need some tips flipping an old family house. Tearing it down is not an option for me. oneDrive gallery: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsPJAeuf94KngzX_oX4PhTIb5pHG

>>1499655
Are YOU currently building it, or jewing the owners with spic labor and keeping the difference?

>>1499655
What permits do you need.

alright minnesota anon riddle me this
let's say a hypothetical autist with no faith in the current fiat debt-based system wants to buy some land and build his own house. and no, not hire subcontractors to do all the shit for him, i mean BUILD his own house, board by board, nail by nail. he knows he'd have to become at least somewhat competent at things like landscaping and carpentry, but he feels he doesn't have a full grasp of what all goes into building a house (and it doesn't necessarily have to be of the same architectural sophistication as modern houses are, he's content living in a simple sturdy rectangle). what skills/concepts do you recommend he research to see if he can handle the full scope of building a house, and can you offer any wisdom on being efficient with time and money during the process?
this autistic anon has this idea because another anon from another board was bragging about how he did this himself and it was the greatest investment he had ever made and how he practically doesn't have to work since his property gained so much value from all the work he did on it. it piqued his interest

>>1501087
Not OP but honestly owning an old fix-r-upper small home taught me a lot about homebuilding, just like owning a beaten up car got me into auto repair. You could buy a regular house, an older one that is low valued, live in it, fix it up slowly, gain a bunch of experience so you don't fuck up your better home. My current home is like a practice home. At this point I've had a run doing everything from framing, plumbing, electrical, gas, HVAC, drywall, cabinet building, lots of shit. Have a roommate who has done contracting odd jobs and he does a lot of the wood-related stuff, but I am just a compsci fag and I do all the other stuff. Obsessively researching things, reading some books, reading the code books, watching contractors argue on their forums, etc is helpful. There is very little I feel I could not do at this point (though there's a bunch I don't want to do, and it takes me longer to do everything).

Oh also living in the home you are remodeling is a huge pain in the ass so that part isn't great. If you do this though, you could just sell the house you remodeled in a few years and go build your own.

I partied with some folks from Minnesota the other day, mfers know how to drink

>>1499655
>contractor
>I'm building this house.
>I'm

kys jew

>>1499691
Lol what a faggot. Chillax bro

>>1500083
You don't like it build your own fuckin house faggot

>>1500048
Sell as is. No offence but it needs an auful lot of work and if you own it less than 366 days anand sell you get raped on gainz tax

>>1501087
Not him but go to lowes, buy a cuckshead book. Build cuckshed. Insulate and plumb and wire it. Throw cedar panels on it. Furnish it so it looks nice, go to bank for land loan and to move cuckshead cabin innawoods. Pay off loan. Learn to garden and greenhouse

Hello from the Leech Lake area.
There is one wall in my garage that is not insulated. Do you have any tips on a way I can insulate it without taking down all the shelves, work bench, dry wall, etc? One guy told me you can't cut holes and blow in fill because of fire breaks inside the wall. Is that even a thing in a residential property on a garage exterior wall?
I'd like to heat it with a propane wall heater so I can use it in the winter.

>>1501203
gotta go with this. anyone from mn who isn't a somali is a jew.

>>1499655

What tips do you have for someone who wishes to become a builder in the future? To preface this I went to college for a good program, but I only went because of a "its what you should do" type of mentality. My plan right now is to start small. Work for a year as a framer/carpenter, while taking building code courses/exam at the end of it. At the end of that year (and hopefully passed code exam) I'm going to use the money saved up to go hire a small crew and start taking up framing jobs and small renos, I would rather be a manager/super of the crew. I would use this crew to gain extra business skill, solid contacts, and more working capital. After a couple years, start building homes. Alternatively I could go back to school for an Architecture Engineering Technology program, 3 years full time, and hopefully land a job somewhere.

Another question, if you needed one, what would you look for in a "helper" as someone who runs the contracting business? I have solid organizational/managerial skill and decent business acumen, but no formal construction education. Would you consider hiring someone to help you with the business side? Like deal with paper work, check up on sites, maybe fill in as an extra body, etc. How would I sell myself for a position like that?

If you decide to answer bro that would help me a lot.

>>1501657
>I’m currently building this house.
So you aren't building this house. You're the middleman that skims off both parties and uses them to enrich yourself.

Insurance, realtors, bankers, contractors. All jew scum.

>>1499655
how many Somalis can fit in that thing ?

>>1501765
If you cremate them and keep the windows open, all of them.

What are you looking for in a construction manager?

Residenshul lektrishun here

>>1501203
>>1501728

Kys bitch

I actually build the houses and I couldnt do my job as well if it werent for constructions managers. They handle all the stupid social and organizational aspects of the job--like dealing with homeowners and and scheduling when trades should be in the house.

The dude may not be "building" the house, but hes adding value to society.

>>1501789
Your scheduling assistant makes twice as much as you.

Kys, bitch.

>>1501765
even one is too many

>>1501792

Go do another line in the portapotty, concrete nigger

>>1501797

Wats up with the plastic temp protection around the house. Doesn't look like it would hold up to wind / snow. Is that a midwestern thing? Why wouldnt you temp out the door openings?

>>1501087
A lot of the groundwork isnt even worth doing yourself, renting the equipment will cost just as much if not more than paying a professional to do, plumbing/hvac/electrical should be subbed out and probably isnt even legal for you to do, but you could do the framing, sheeting, roofing, insulating, drywall, mud, taping, sanding, painting, trim and cabinets, doors, windows, flooring, etc. But some of these things will generally take you more time due to lack of experience and tools. Gonna have to rent a telehandler for the trusses, probably gonna need an extra hand for those, and standing the walls. Could pour the foundation yourself or build a wood one (supposedly it's much cheaper)

>>1501844
Not a midwestern thing. Not sure why he did this

>>1499655
nice mcmansion, nice tyvek to choke out the already shitty OSB panels, nice crappy asphalt shingle, nice crap quality of the house.

nice McConstruction.

>>1501710
Did you get that picture from pol? Construction thread?

>>1501844
That plastic is string reinforced, and if hung correctly very durable. It's common in both residential and commercial construction to use this for a variety of reasons such as keeping the work area dry, and in colder climates when used in conjunction with a temporary heater it helps warm the worksite for painting and finishing jobs.

>>1501087
If you don’t already have every tool you can think of, it’s not worth your time if your end goal is just a house.

I’ve been working on houses since I was 10. I can do everything but rough in the plumbing and electrical and install the heater/blower/ac units.

If my father hadn’t spent his life buying every tool he could find on garage sales, I wouldn’t be able to build houses.

But even with all my experience, I wouldn’t ever consider building a house with anything less than 5 guys and that’s after the roughing in and foundation being poured.

Start with something small like a treehouse with indoor plumbing and then realize that when you move to a house sized project, the problems are exacerbated 10x+.

It’s easy to romanticize but with no experience or tools it would be soooo hard

>>1501710
If this pic was any other wood, it would be beautiful

>>1501988
I’ve never seen anyone cope this hard.

Get a good paying job and better yourself, you insufferable freak

>>1502070
>>1501087
>>1501884
you can do it, but the biggest point is take your time - few years, not a problem if you have people and skills. Building your own house used to be the norm just few decades ago.

That way you can build a proper house instead of dogshit overpriced mcmansion that will rot inside out within 20 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV7pmE4MC-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkVAO4vrsUA

>>1501989

Yeah some architecture said, but like >>1502068 said, any other wood would be beautiful, alternatively if they stained it dark and changed the finishing I think it would look good

>>1502140
>if they stained it dark

a matter of taste, to be sure, but that place would be a dungeon if all that wood was very dark. here in NC we get lots of jobs where people have grown tired of their old dark stained trim so the only alternative other than replacing it is to kilz it, caulk the cracks, putty the nails, then two top coats of white paint that has a shot of black.

>>1499655
Is that a condom for a house

>>1499655
Rate my trailer/ geuss my trade

>>1502387
No idea.

What the fuck is the shit on the left side

>>1502291
Well, we wouldn't want it breeding would we?

>>1502029
That shit's easy but i caught my house on fire twice as a kid and my best bro got grabbed up by 440 and melted.

I'll crawl under my house and fight snakes and plumbing but iboay my sister in law to install a ceiling fans.

Laugh all u want but guess who isn't getting electrocuted?

>>1501988
Nice shitpost.

Faggot apartmentcuck

>>1501884
Shit bruh. We built a 45 foot tall house by hand. Me and 4 bros put the trusses up with nailed together 2x4s and autism.

People didnt believe us until i showed them pics.

We used a tractor with forks and a lader on the forks to side it and my bro swung by his nuts 40 feet high while his 400 pound brother weeved 2x4s and was the couter weight.

>>1501789
Agreed.

>>1501789
Anyone whoes ever dealt with a crankbaddict subcontractor knows how dumb talking to them is

>>1501780
Fun fact. "Ashes" are just dried up bone dust and mixed with strangers...

>>1502387
Siding of some sort? Bender looks like a pro3 but heavier made. will probably bend steel trim stock.

>>1501728
I dont know who the fuck you think i am but i don't build shit faggot.

I pay people to do that because after 25 years of franing i descided it was more fun to tell the framers wtf to do then play target practice with nail guns in the heat and snow.

Also just kys.

REEEEE OTHER OEOPLE HAVE JOBS.

lol. Filthy fucking neet

>>1501661
Rent a foam sprayer. Will look like shit but who cares?

>>1502482
true

These idiots think that being a GC isn't a job when they have no idea how to run a business, only the simple responsibility of having to dig a ditch or operate a nailgun or run conduit or do drywall all day.

a lot of you tradesman may not understand, because your job is only the one part of the house that you do over and over, but there is quite a bit of problem solving as well as work that falls in between the cracks that needs to be done. you don't have to worry about the logistics of anything that happens. I could talk all fucking day about the things you don't understand because you think that roofing or stucco are the epitome of exerting yourself when you've never been intellectually challenged in your life

>>1502479
The mixing is rare now, too many people got caught doing it, so now they try to keep that from happening.

I want to build a 15x20 shed to work on my car/projects in during the hot summers/cold winters but I don't want to spend a lot of money or make it super permanent so I don't want to pour a concrete slab. Should I build a wooden foundation/floor or leave it bare ground?

>>1499655
Make tutorials hombre, use pens or pencils

>>1502387
looks like a metal siding & gutter operation

>>1502467
The green thing is an aluminum brake. I use it make flashings.
>>1502480
Its is a 12' vanmark trimmaster
>>1502568
No gutters. I dont like hanging them.

If you said siding, your right. I make a living nailing boards to the outsides of houses.

>>1502487
>I could talk all fucking day about...
Could you hit some high points?
I'm getting to the point in this life where I think I could possibly make it as a GC.

>>1503192
Son of a gc here. The low points are high stress, working with the state, and fucked owners and inspectors. Upside seems to be having you own hours, run costs through company, and "Potential" to make money.
My dad and uncle got wrekt after the 2008 recession and as a smallish company didn't buddy up with the right people and ended up with a couple jobs here and there. Finally a dmv job fucked us over and 60yrs of a company is going under.

Tell me everything you know about the term "hot mopping". No googling.

>>1501087
>at least somewhat competent at things like landscaping and carpentry
please don't try if you have this attitude
most guys on site can try their hand at other trades and the smart ones will say they won't touch electrics or gas
get qualified people to do your work, reading a book won't make you a carpenter

>>1499655
I'm wanting to get into spray foam and epoxy jacking. I'm 38 and tired of playing cars (22 years in the auto industry, ASE certified tech, now working parts). Any thoughts on learning the ins and outs of the trade?

>>1503407
That crap is not a trade, it’s a boomer franchise pyramid sceme.

>>1503489
Pyramid scheme? How so?

>>1502475
Well yeah you can do it that way but most people appreciate pre-fab trusses vs stick framing.

>>1502487
That's because any monkey can swing a hammer, but dont talk to the monkeys about it because as far as they are concerned they are the hardest working fuckheads they know

>>1502535
Dont leave it on bare ground.

>>1503536
The money is in selling you the franchise, equipment and supplies. Just like alpacas.

>>1503581
What fucking franchise? Im not looking at anything along those lines. That would be s horrible model to slave under. The reactor and chemicals are available straight from the manufacturer.

>>1502387
lots of gloves and spelling is shit.
you work with metal.

>>1501789
>I actually build the houses and I couldnt do my job as well if it werent for constructions managers

No wonder jews take advantage of you braindead faggots so well. Keep slaving away retard

>>1500048
>https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsPJAeuf94KngzX_oX4PhTIb5pHG
very jealous wish I had this, I mean for a start just cleaning and making it weather tight would be a start

/b/rooklyn park fag here just swinging by to see whats up. op seems cool, good thread idea for a change.

Where can I get windows done for cheap as fuck in north metro?

>>1503186
Mighty powerful color choice, is there contrasting trim going up. What material is going on the roof?

>>1503940
buy from menards and do them yourself then pay someone to Finnish.

>>1499655
Why are the vikings such a pathetic team?

>>1504045
All blue siding with white windows soffit &fascia. They used black 3tab shingles.

>>1504416

why aren't the cornerboards white.

>>1499655
struct eng anon here, I'm looking to make money providing plans and stamps in IL.

Any tips for me?

>>1503255
not op, but
you get a tar furnace, tar, and cover a shower pan with the hot tar. you then plug the drain and do a leakdown test where you fill the shower with water and leave it overnight. mainly done in california and a few parts of texas. its a pretty cool process i saw an old timer do.

>>1504422
Not what they wanted. I'm a siding installer, not a designer.

How many illegals do you employ?

>>1501087
Id take a job as a framer for at least a year before you do anything anon. Hands on experience will always trump a book for this kind of thing.
It may take a year but if you have a friend who will play mexican its doable... If you know what youre doing.

>>1505031
And also what other anons said. Youre gonna need someone to do groundwork for you at the very least.

>>1501180
>I partied with some folks from Minnesota the other day, mfers know how to drink
We have to stay warm and deal with our shitty sports teams somehow.

Oh, and ice fishing

>>1504416
>Blue house
>Blue little windows

Where's the blue Corvette?

>>1504789
Why that and not rubber sheeting like normal?

>>1505165
>>>1504789
>Why that and not rubber sheeting like normal?
Not the person you are questioning, but I'd guess sheeting would be done in most cases where it's a smoother surface and you're fitting a preformed fiberglass basin for your standard bathrooms. Hot mop if you want to seal up uneven or rough surfaces?

>>1505163
Ayy lmao

>>1499655
How much should I pay for two panels of drywall install and a 4x4 patch of ceiling, plus paint. Ive got folks quoting me in the mid 600s and that sounds like a load of barnacles.

>>1505165
well imo i think it would work just as well. the hot mop is an old school process that has been all but abandoned by everywhere except where i listed. the guy i watched do it said that he didnt trust it. or that he might not notice if it was punctured. it seems like everyone has their preferences on how they waterproof showers

>>1505170
>Hot mop if you want to seal up uneven or rough surfaces?
it probably works well for that too. my house was built in the 40s so i think the previous pan was hot mopped too.

>>1505203
didnt trust the pvc sheeting**

>>1499655
Don’t know if OP is still here but I’ll take any advice. Is getting into contracting worth it? I’ve spent 10 years as a firefighter/paramedic and a handyman on the side, and I did a lot of work as unskilled construction labor in high school. Where I’m moving to there’s no good paramedic work, already hooked up with my local volunteer fire department so I’ll have my fix. What are some things I should know about getting into contracting?

assuming I had the money to build my own house.

>where to look for good architects?
>where to look for good contractors?
>anything else I need to think of?

>>1499655
Why do international building codes specify a minimum attic ceiling height if I want to put rooms up there? I want to know if these rules exist for good reasons like fire or stupid reasons like bumping my head. Building code is pretty lax in my country so it doesn't matter from a legal perspective, but I don't want to accidentally build a deathtrap due to ignorance.

Also, is there any reason I shouldn't try to put a wood floor in my crawlspace?

Basically my house doesn't have much storage space and I want to build climate controlled storage under the floor and in the attic.

>>1499655
None of you contractor faggots would come out to the remote place I live to build a house on my land. I bought a Palm Harbor home and they are shipping it to me in Feb. Did I fuck up?