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I need to pump about a million gallons of water in about a year.

This pump here is 3/4 inch and at maximum rpm it will take 127 days running 24/7. I am assuming i will wear it out by then but buying another or repairing it is fine. The water to be pumped is "clean" but there may occasionally be some sediment from fish or rain kicking shit up.

The problem I have is that my source of power is about 1,000 feet away.

It seems to me stringing 100 foot extension cords is probably just going to arson the landowners field so wtf do i do?

Cable for big pumpjack motors is like $3 a foot. I'm only running a little motor tho.

I forgot, the pump says it can pump up to 39 feet but i only need it to pump about 20-25 feet high. And the intske will be about 3 feet of that straight up. Or at an angle if that would help? So it shouldnt see full load.

So what guage of wire will i need to safely run this guy 24/7 and not start a pasture fire?

Here's the pump i am considering.

My other option is a diy windmill and PVC pump but i don't see that lasting long. I may be able to assemble a small oil well pump but im not sure.

Portable Water Transfer Utility Pump 330 GPH, 115-Volt with Metal Connectors that are Standard 3/4" Garden Hose https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9MVXFA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_384UBbH1KZE71

>> No.1477133

Alternatively i guess i can use my 12v 1.5hp motor. Would need to buy a pump head and some sort or regulator to power the motor off of batteries. I could charge batteries qith thinner guage wire and have it run only half the time?

I don't know. I just want to affordably avoid slinging hoses for a fucking 10" pump.

>> No.1477134

>>1477129
>you gonna get mad at us when your tenant forgets to turn the pump on ?

>> No.1477138

awg 10 should do
>3,7% voltage drop
inb4 americans with their toy tier voltage
inb4 most other countries have 230 Volts by default
with 230V voltage drop would be less than 1%

>> No.1477140

>>1477129
have fun paying for 762 kw/h

>> No.1477145

>>1477129
Does it have to be an electric pump?

>> No.1477146

Are you pumping it to near the power?
If so, anyone know if the pump would work from an elevated position?
You could use some cheap rigid tubing to suck the water so the pump wouldn't be so far away.
A reserve at the top might be needed to prime it

>> No.1477148

Dude, buy a combustion engine pump.

>> No.1477165

>>1477140
That's about 100 bucks poorfag.

>> No.1477179

>>1477134
Nah, no tennant. Giant ass pond.

>> No.1477180

Get a small 100 buck sump pump like a 1/4 hp and a decent rv battery gor like 150 bucks and a decent solar panel or two to get about 4 or 5 hundred watts and an arduino to run it. Charge for a couple days. Pump some water. Charge for a couple days. Pump some water. You've got a year to move a million gallons.

>> No.1477184

>>1477180
Oh ya. And an inverter that can handle the 1/4 hp.

>> No.1477185

>>1477138
>>1477140

Well, i got 220v there. But idgaf. I don't pay the electric bill.

>> No.1477187

>>1477145
Or diesel i guess. But i would have to build a tank out of 55 gallon drums or something. And i can't find an affordable deisle motor.

I figured running electric will be cheaper? I work out of a cuckshed with only electricity.

>> No.1477189

>>1477179
Does it pump mud? Good luck then.

>> No.1477190

>>1477180
I've been considering this. It's probably cheaper than running a line i guess. There is a lot of wind here. I think turbines would be more efficient. I can set them on a hilltop pretty much.

>> No.1477193

>>1477189
It's an old mining pit. It's a limestone pond on all sides altho it does get a little run off from the ground above.

It's uneven tho and it doesnt have to be completely dry so i can suspend the intake above all the sediment

>> No.1477473

>>1477193
A diesel engine water pump would clear it in a matter of weeks, but they start at near 10 grand and go through 50 grand or so. Gas engine pumps would be an economical alternative, but the fuel cost and time lost might offset that savings a tad.

>> No.1477497

>>1477129
1,000,000 gallons = 23,800 bbls I can move that in 4 hrs for $5000.

>> No.1477521

>>1477129
>25' head
You'll be seeing like 8 GPH, flow rate is based on 0 head, 0 plumbing (how long of a hose are you using? garden hose is a significant restriction), assuming you even get rated on some cheapass pump

>> No.1477562

dude buy a 2" honda trash pump thank me later

>> No.1477564

>>1477562

@185 gallons/minute be done in like 3 days

fuck all other options

find a used one on kijiji

theyre stupid reliable too

>> No.1477593

>>1477134
Ah fuck, that thread was classic

>> No.1477638

>>1477473
Yeah, thats why im fucked. I got all the deisle i need but it takes a 10 inch pump 2 weeks 24/7 to drain. I can't even rent a pump that long.

>> No.1477639

>>1477497
I aint got 5k anon...

But thanks.

Ive opened it to all of the oil companies i can find to haul it off for frac water but it's not helping much

>> No.1477640

>>1477521
Probably 3 feet of pvc suction and then also pvc about 20 feet straight up. And another 5 feet downhill

>> No.1477644

unless that sucker is above the ground water level enjoy constantly needing a pump to keep it even remotely dry

>> No.1477787

>>1477129
Need a trash pump for a pond bro. That little thing is gonna die.

>> No.1477817

>>1477638
You can get a 2 inch 220gpm gas engine water pump for about 300 bucks. That would empty out a million gallons in a week or so running constantly.

>> No.1477819

Lol at pump 1m gallons 28ft over a year....

Mate, you could probably put an immersion heater in it and evaporate it away at that rate....

>> No.1477826

Just dig a runoff trench and make the water someone else's problem

>> No.1477859

Running long extension cords will not start a fire. Insulate and watertight your connections, dont lay them among flammable material. Even if you did you probably wouldn't start a fire but that would be the only way.
As some people have noted, a gas/diesel trash pump would be faster, and by the time you purchased 1000 ft of good 10AWG extension cord you will be about the same price. However, you can just leave an electric pump running for long periods without refueling.
Unfortunately, you are likely to either have the flexible rubber impeller pull something in that tears it or have the suction clog with something which will overheat the impeller.
Get a trash pump and do it properly dingus.

>> No.1477975

Hmmm

>but old fire engine for literally less than $1000 at many places since the feds won’t offer grants for them due to age
>pump out water at 1000 gpm
>be done in 2-3 days of sporadic pumping

>> No.1477996

>>1477564

This, set aside a couple hundred bucks for gas / beer / food and go camping for a few days and babysit the pump until it's finished.

>> No.1478092

>>1477996
How hard is it to connect the fuel line to an external tank.. Just need enough gas to run it so you only need to refill once a day.

>> No.1478244

>>1477644
Oh i have for over 4 years... their is a creek we pump it into but i think it's above ground level. I cant really tell. Was going to borrow a new 3" poly pipe roll from a buddy and try a siphon but i doubt it will work and I'll ultimately have to do something different because that shit is $3,000.

>> No.1478247

>>1477817
But it runs on gas. I'm not paying for fuel and if i order gas my company will ree at me because they have a 10" pump. Sick of dragging hoses and babysittting bullshit. It doesnt have to move a lot of water as long as it's constantly running. Maybe i could run a 3/4" drill pump on a turbine?

>> No.1478249

>>1477819
I considered sinking a big ass tank in it and lighting it on fire. Not sure if i would just be wasting my time

>> No.1478251

>>1477826
If the creek isnt low enough the trench would be 1/4 mile and start at near 30 feet deep. Going to damned sure try if they will let me tho. Hell they probably have surveys and geological paperwork and could tel me before i dig. Would make my year if i could just blast a trench and stop fighting this fucking water

>> No.1478252

>>1477975
I've been looking at steam power. I bet i could get my hands on an old pumpjack motor.

I really dont want to blow myself up tho

>> No.1478254

>>1477190
Why not just build a windmill pump or two?

>> No.1478256

>>1478251
Im curious. What are your plans for this pit?

>> No.1478291

>>1477129
Shit op if you had the access a horizontal bore of 6" or so could make a fine spillway for a tiny generation station. That cabke u were considering could become useful. A million gallons of water can produce quite alot of energy with enough head.

>> No.1478310

>>1477129
Use a pond pump, I have far more confidence in a cheap submersible pond pump running at 100% duty cycle for a year than that POS.

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1478664

>>1477133
if only there was some kind of cells that could be powered by solar energy.... a solar panel if you will. too bad they don't exist.

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1478673

>>1477140
>kw/h

>> No.1478721

If you're pumping 1m gallons, you need to know where it's going to go.

You'll just create another pond.

>> No.1478732

>>1478721

into a creek shit for brains read the thread

anyways OP the only way is to either drainage digging, or trash pumps

any other shit is meme tier waste of time/money

/thread imo