/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1452314
That sounds like a really dumb idea OP. Why would you want to build a house when you have no skills and experience in that area?

>>1452314
Google would be more useful here, or if you know anyone/have relatives that have built a house recently, you can ask them. The procedure varies by country. You can also go through government agencies, maybe the town hall, they should be able to direct you to where you have to go.
>>1452317
I think he means "commissioning someone to plan and build a house" as opposed to making it brick by brick himself.

Give us some more details OP. Where do you live? Is the house going to be urban or rural? Do you need to purchase land? Do you want to be off grid? Is it going to be a modern build. Or some kind of ecomicroshack?

>>1452314
Easiest if you have title to land first. That opens up working capital. You can use land title to secure a building loan (unless of course you are independently wealthy). Building loans will typically pay out at set milestones. Footer and basement, framing, roof and siding etc. Bank will want a plan and a contract with final price clearly stated. It will be hard at your age to do this with out a licensed contractor that the bank knows owning the contract. You can buy plans or having a set made but plans will have to exist to get permits.

>>1452343
All the above assumed building in some incorporated area such as city, township etc. If your planning this out in the boonies or on an Indian reservation then all you will need is some cash and a place to start. Probably have to bribe a few folks on the way.

>>1452314
1) Hire a general contractor to do it
2) live in house

(Protip: never get estimates, they are a waste of time& are not really neccesary.)

>>1452361
A general contracter will always hire the best& most trusted subcontractors to ensure the best quality of your house.

>>1452365
There is no such thing as a bad subcontractor.

>>1452314
make foundations , good foundations are the besis for a stable and not wet home! you need to tdraw into calculation, ground water levels and bed rock, if you can build on bedrock above groundwater level, do so! that will give you a realy realy good basis for the bulding, also do not hesitate to excavate a bit more than necesarry and chop away a bit of rock to build on the realy stable stuff, then you need good stone, that's dense enough for the ground level.
if you are building on the hillside or flat terratan decide if you could built half souhterrain, but i would go for atleast one stonebrick and morter level then ontot a would frame style building

>>1452366
holy shit
my sides

>>1452314
Contact a modular home company.

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>>1452366

>>1452314
Why do you plan on building a house if you just literally said you're incapable of planning or building a house?

Seek out those skills first.

>>1452876
To get some guidance.

>>1452958
I'm in a somewhat similar situation - never proberly learned something like it, but i've done some stuff on different construction sites and none of it appeared to be witchcraft to me.
On the long run i may build a house myself without much professional help, BUT - when i do i will actually hire some people to show me the basics at whatever step i'm currently working on.
Important aspects to take into account:
>How much does land cost?
Check the area where you wanna build. Consider the environment like neighborhood, crime, stores, workplaces, traffic noise, schools (think about the future), amount of nature arround, possible contamination of the ground from chemical factories / mines, regularly occuring natural desasters. There's a lot of things that raise or lower the price of a patch of land, consider the points i've mentioned and whatever you can come up with. Make a list of mandatory, important and less important points in that order. Next step: Figure out the average costs and the variance according to the above mentioned factors.
>How much room do you need?
Plan for the future - you may have a wife and children, so plan accordingly. Also make a reasonable plan, sure - a big house is nice but also more expensive. Use your brain. If restrictions exist wherever you're trying to build, find them and consider that these may higher the price. People often can't just build whatever crack shack they feel like.
>How much do you have to spend minimally on a complete house?
Consider the lowest tier house made out of plywood which is made by professionals without your help. Include costs like electricity and plumbing because a house without a toilet isn't a house. Now add the base price of the ground and multiply that by 1.3. This is what you'll actually pay for it all after the state and lawyers and the bank and contractors are done with you. Everyone will open their hands for your shekels, get used to it.
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>>1452988
And now that you've probably got this astronomical number in front of you you may think: "How on earth am i gonna ammass that amount of money?"
Well that is done through work - a lot of it. You should have about 20% of the total money before you start considering going to a bank.
This should give you enought time to think about the pros and cons about different options like building types and areas.
You want a place where you'll possibly spend the rest of your life and possibly your childrens lives aswell. Take your time and don't rush this.
During this time you should decide if you actually want to live in a low end house or want something more durable. There's holy wars on forums like this one about 'mc construction' and 'mc mansion' and 'mc brick'. Don't get intimidated. These are valid options and typically have their pros and cons including their religous followers. Even a wooden house can make a man happy, the important question you'll have to answer yourself: "What is important to me and where i live?"
Living in earth quake / tornado central may mean that your house is going to be stressed more then others - build either extremely durable or the opposite (cheap). If you live in an area like california where bushfires appear regularly like clockwork you may consider to invest in brick and non-burning material, if you don't give a shit if your stuff burns down every once in a while get yourself a big van and a cheap house - just in case.
And now comes the most fun part: Actually making a concrete plan. Once you've figured out the concrete materials you want to use get in touch with companies that offer that. Consider to do some apprenticeships there in order to learn the ins and outs about the respective trades, otherwise watch videos. Handcrafting by hand is no witchcraft, doing it actually good is another thing. Invest lots and lots of hours into reading before you buy /rent equipment.
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>>1452993
Once you've figured out a concrete plan including all materials, floor plans, concrete patch of land you want to buy and a good spoon of knowledge about the things that have to be done summarize the costs and multiply by 1.3. This is your budget. If you don't have 20% of that budget keep saving until you do.
Arround that time you can ask yourself:
>Do i need to work on the side to put food on the table?
>Can / will anyone help me? (Don't depend on others, they may help, but you're not entitled to it except you pay for it.)
>How many hours can i seriously work per day?
>Do i need heavy equipment?
>How long does which phase of the construction take?
>What happens if i break my leg?
>Is your special someone in on that plan? Talk about that!

Once you've reasonably answered all these questions and are absolutely sure that you want to pour your soul into that piece of land go to banks and start comparing their prices for a loan.
Consider the following question:
>How long until i pay off that loan?
>What if my company closes or i get fired?
>What if my girlfriend / wife breaks up?
If you've got the questions answered proceed to the hard step.

Yes, i said the hard step.

Building the house! Consider what you can do yourself how that effects liablity. Doing things yourself is fun and rewarding, but it's also a lot of work. Not everyone likes to work with their hands - do you? If yes - follow the plans you've made (and possibly had double checked by someone who knows about statics!) and start building.
First excavate a possible basement, lay ground plate and build the house. The remaining steps are so heavily diverse and dependend on the type of construction they can't be summarized here like that.

Just keep in mind: Everything is gonna cost more then you expect. Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. But don't get the impression it's impossible to do.
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>>1452314
Have a cuckshed delivered. Get in youtube. Get after it

>>1452996
It's hard and demanding, it's a year long process and once you've made it through you'll be a different man.

Don't listen to the nay sayers claiming that you can't do it. Nothing is impossible if you follow through with your decisions - given they were not exclusively made by your gut feeling.
Be smart; Think three times before assuming something as true, ask other people, discuss it with friends and family and on mongolian basket waving forums if you feel like it.
Be realistic - nothing is worse than a debt trap you've gotten yourself into through poor planning.
And most importantly: Be brave and hard-working.

Building an own home is for many people the biggest personal challenge in their entire lives. Act accordingly.

>>1452314
The first and most important thing to consider is how much money you have available to spend on the house. Aside from that, I recommend that you only work on things that you feel comfortable working on, and otherwise hire qualified professionals to handle everything else. I'd also reccomend using metal for the building materials if you can afford it; metal security doors, aluminum studs, aluminum roofing and siding, copper (potable) and steel (sewer) plumbing, and steel support beams.

>>1452314
Look at it this way whatever your budget is for the house expect to pay a little bit more but don't set that little bit more as your budget because then you'll just end up spending a little bit more than what that little bit more was

>>1452396
Modular homes are simple and relatively cheap. I’ve seen some issues with the poured foundations/basements not having enough stress relief and having them crack and leak. The houses I’ve dealt are furnished with cheap cabinets and counters but with middle of the road homedepot replacements when they wear out, and a little bit of general maintenance and care they’re not too shabby. You won’t be living in an amazing dream house but it’s not a trailer.

>>1452314
get a job, save up $100k and by the time you've done this you will have a better plan and be able to afford an architect.

Hire an architectural engineer, or architect I guess.

t. Architectural engineer who can kick out houses like nothing

>>1453434
>t. Architectural engineer who can kick out houses like nothing
>give me a job
>please

>>1452314
Most ridiculous thing I've read for a while.

>21 neet wants to build house

>>1452314
Why don't you ask your local municipality? Strangers on the internet will lead you astray.

>>1452314
You cannot build a house yourself on a loan unless you have a contractors license, or if you take some kind of personal loan for a retardedly high interest rate. So unless you have(assuming you need to buy tools aswell) like $80,000 laying around, you aren’t building a house yourself.

>>1452314
>never had father/mother figure to teach me anything
That's okay. I've had both parents and they never taught me anything of value either.

>>1452366

>>1452314
OP, wanting to build yourself a home is a good long term goal. To achieve any long term goal, you have to break it down into short term goals.

If you only look at the long term goal, you will probably fail like the losers responding telling you they are failures in life.

Building a house is a realistic goal. Millions of people have been doing it for thousands of years, and there's no reason why you can't do it too.
I'm not saying it will be easy, you have a lot of work ahead of you. Don't be in a hurry. Keep your goals reasonable, as you work towards your long term goal. Each time you complete a short term goal, it will give you a sense of accomplishment, and motivate you to knock another goal off your list, and get you another step closer.
You'll get your house faster, if you save your money. Don't throw money away on rent.
Buy a small property. A little piece of land for around $1000. Buy a camper to sleep in. a small BBQ to cook on. Not paying rent, you'll be able to save money fast. get a job in construction as a laborer. watch and learn how to build, how to use tools. you'll get your house eventually.

>>1454135
/Someone else.
>Don't throw money away on rent.
>Buy a small property. A little piece of land for around $1000.
The absolutely rock bottom cheapest patches of land arround where i live start at arround 200.000 eurodollars. Land is really fucking cheap in the us - isn't it?

>>1453778
So they taught you that you're worthless which in itself is quite valuable to know.

>>1454151
Land is dirt cheap all over europe, but you don't have an MLS or even Zillow to make it easy. You practically have to knock on doors, or know somebody at a bank. London is famous for giving away houses for 1 euro to fixer-uppers.

>>1454163
>Land is dirt cheap all over europe

Cool. I have 13 grand saved up, and I'd love to own 10 acres near Paris or Berlin.

>>1454163
I've looked at what banks offer arround here. Hamburg and area surrounding is expensive as fuck - as with pretty much any large city in germany.
Even with a good wage you'll spend years paying for a patch of grass.

I blame economists for "investing" (aka. leeching off the already thinned out market).

>>1454167
>I blame economists
I hear you, wink wink

still you can buy a condo in Hamburg for 25.000 and it's better than paying rent. rent is throwing money away. sell the condo when you've saved up for something bigger. The bubble is about to burst in bongland.

>>1454164
>I'd love to own 10 acres near Paris or Berlin.
don't put your knee pads away just yet, you'll need to suck a lot more dick to get 10 acres anywhere. Gay Paris, is no different. 13 grand will get you a small lot, or a burned down house.

>>1454175
Either i'm searching at the wrong spots or you don't have an idea how the prices are exploding in big cities. Ground prices go up by 5-10% each year. The cheapest offer i've seen was a garage (in the middle of nowhere) where you're obviously not allowed to live in for 40 grant. Everything else is noteably higher.
Even wrecked houses get sold for sums with too many zeros because of reasons.

>>1454179
>i'm searching at the wrong spots

i just searched and found a small restaurant in Paris with a 2 bedroom apartment upstairs. it's been closed for years, and needs some work but they kept the roof up. $50k US.

>>1453499
He's trying to move somewhere with his life, fuck off.

>>1452320
>as opposed to making it brick by brick himself.
it's not rock science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpAURQXCKg

>>1454164
23 y/o bricklayer here. I have money saved up and was thinking of hi-jacking a small plot in South America and just building on it. Can do everything apart from the plumbing but it's not a problem. Let me know if you are interested in collaborating and we can talk.

>>1454677
While i like the idea of making much by yourself you should take into account that with being a cheap cunt in the base material you may drastically decrease the lifespan of your house.
There's a reason why bricks are fired before bing used to construct buildings.

>>1454891
adobe construction has been around for a very long time. many churches and missions built with adobe brick have stood for hundreds of years
pyramids in mexico are made of mud brick, and some say they are 40,000 years old

>>1452314
If you're rural get a house on a hilltop. I cant fucking wait to diy windmills and get some panels.

Go to lows or home depo. By the door is a rack of /diy books. Unironically get one on building cucksheds. I have done this. Each build has it's own instructions and a build list. Get on the store's website and check prices.

Budget for a little waste. There is always some 2x4 that splits or warped shit you have to account for.

You dont want to go through a realtor if you can help it. Google a checklist for buying land. Highway frontage is expensive. If you get land in bumblefuck nowhere it's the cheapest. Aroud here if you are lucky under 2k and acre. 3k for highway frontage.

Mutherfucking jake brakes...

It's really not that hard if you get a build list. If you got the scratch have your trusses built and delivered BEFORE you start. It's a cunt to /diy. You can do it. But its aids.

>>1452314
Pretty sure op is a troll but I got time to kill and my wife pissed me off so I ain't going to the living room.

Highly suggest you help some builder for several weekends before u do this. Hard to explain but I would akin it to painting. You can google it all u want but it takes practice first

>>1452365
Kek.

>>1456888
>If you got the scratch have your trusses built and delivered BEFORE you start. It's a cunt to /diy. You can do it. But its aids.

Not really. Millions of houses were built stick by stick, and it's a good way to save money and learn more about framing. If you want to avoid work, hire a general contractor.

>>1452366
Maybe I should get some more tools. I'm pretty handy and already have the required shitmobile beater pickup and drinking problem.

>>1452391
This anon gets it!

What you want for a base is 1" ab3 anon. And no, you're not "wasting money on dirt." There is no dirt. It's rock dust and fines and it packs like mutherfucking concrete. Rent a whacker packer and you can't pack it too tight

>>1452667
>unmotivational posters.

The memes before memes. Cheers bro

>>1452314
Ducks about your folks anon. But desu most of us just use thier skills and learn little. My dad is the best mechanic on earth but I cant tine a carburetor to save my fucking life.

Also with rare exception and pinterest. Women don't build ahit. Men do.

>Insert boondock saints 2 rock speech

>>1452993

It's wallet tape but you can get a house with 0 down and 0 closing costs up front. You'll spend the next 20-30 years paying for it tho.

And if fires are a problem a nice rock garden for a fire break will do. Or just burn your own yard when it will light.

>>1453001
Yet here in the land of the free after all that work uncle sam owns it.

Pisses me off

>>1453778
My bro has tweakers for parents. They spun tires and kicked rocks all over him and his kid and wife. He told them to suck cocks and hasnt talked to them in a decade

>>1454151
Yup. And thank fuck to.

>>1454178
>ftw buy glorified walk in closet for 10k
>put 5k in it.
>rent for treefiddy

>>1454677
Miner here. Rock science you say?

>>1454803
Bro, plumbing is the easiest of it.

GET PEX AND GIT GUD

Post house designs, not OP but I need ideas for a house. Cheap design, open spaces.

>>1456922


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