/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1438696
depends on what you are using it for...

1 time use?
heavy duty demolition?

I only ask because its one of those tools that you might not need the biggest or most badass for the task.

>>1438696
If you're a homeowner, it won't really matter. I have cordless Makita and corded Milwaukee, both 8+ years old and used frequently.

>>1438696
both are good options

however 4 years from now when you're up on a latter in the cold trying to cut something it wont matter if you saved 30 bucks. what will matter if you have a powerful saw

i was a retard and bought a 12v makita recip saw. sucks for most things if you only own that but really good for cqb

if you're only buying one saw id saw its a toss up both are good options. do you already have cordless tools?

>>1438696
A corded milwaukee will last the rest of your life.

I have a corded DeWalt. It has different blade positions. I am a carpenter and use it all the time. I cut everything from drywall to ceiling joists. The only reciprocating saw that I have found that does what I need is the DeWalt corded. I am not a fan of DeWalt so that is saying alot.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a value sawsall for mostly cutting drywall. I started working at a restoration place and will eventually need to pick one up.

>>1438749
I try to avoid anything cordless except for drills/drivers. Definitely care more about power than weight.

>>1438701
Around the house stuff. Right now I need it for demolishing old furniture and trimming trees. A sawzall is way safer than holding a chainsaw one-handed over my head.

>>1438785
how's that corporate cock taste?

>>1438850
Sorry you cant get a state made commie saw and must buy one from a private company

>>1438840
I used my Milwaukee cordless for trimming trees. Do recommend. It will even cut faster than one of their own corded Sawzall.

>>1438840
I own the cordless version of the Makita you have in the OP and it's very powerful, I cut steel stock with it often and it never bogs down. For any kind of wood it's more than enough power. Of course the battery life is only like 10-15 minutes of active cutting, but again you can get quite a lot done with that. Having it cordless is especially good for trimming trees.

>>1438749
>2Ah
Haha try a proper battery you might get on better?

>>1438696
>>1438840
Both are good and will likely be overkill for your needs. I'd recommend the Makita either way but the $30 savings is a nice bonus.

>>1438934
>complains about 2Ah
>not the 12V
These batteries deliver the same performance anyway, the only difference is that at high current draws the 4-5Ah packs will last disproportionally longer than the 1.5-2Ah packs. But that saw is designed for lower performance to begin with, it's 150W as opposed to the DJR186 with 500W.

>>1438934
>>1438947
>mfw just bought a v12 impact driver to go with it

>>1439195
The 12V impact drivers aren't much worse, 110Nm vs 160Nm in the similar 18V models. The drills and saws and the rest are notably weaker though. On the upside, they are cheaper and lighter.

>>1438696
I bought a milwaukee corded 2 years ago. Ripped up tons of floors and tore through tons of metal. It cuts through 12 inch steel pipe like butter.

>>1439206
I have plenty of 20v impacts. I wanted something small and not too powerful for assembly of small shit and for 45 bucks you can't go wrong

>>1438696
Get the Milwaukee i Use them for industrial mainentence aka Industrial demolision and this Thig goes thru Medium Steel beams

>>1438785
LMAO maybe one bought 20 years ago. They're all garbage rebranded Ryobi now.

OP just get the makita. If you don't circle jerk a brand you're clearly not using tools that often

OP here, went with the Makita. Used it for a couple hours today. It's plenty powerful but the trigger lock keeps engaging when I don't want it to. That might be a deal breaker, thinking about exchanging it for the Milwaukee.

>>1439455
Cant say im surprised.
For everyone sucking Makita dick and saying they can do no wrong, you bought one of their low end tools (which is even made in china)

Makita doesnt use different brands (like Ryobi low end, milwaukee high) or colors (bosch green low end, blue high) to differentiate their high end tools from their low end tools. Just mixed all in together and its a crapshoot.

Looks like others have had the same problem with the lock.
Let us know how the Milwaukee saw works out.

>>1438696
I’ve got the big boy 15amp Milwaukee saw. Excellent saw for all the heavy demo & remodeling projects I’ve had over the past 4 years. Also own the Rigid 18v & Makita 18v “subcompact”. They each serve a purpose and each get used often. If I were getting just one of the saws you listed, I’d go Milwaukee.

>>1439455
>>1439470
>the only difference between the corded and cordless is the trigger lock

>>1438840
>I try to avoid anything cordless except for drills/drivers. Definitely care more about power than weight.

its 2018 and that is no longer a legitimate argument.

>>1439470
Does this type of shilling really translate to increased sales for you faggots? I sware I lurk here almost everyday and milfaukee shills are the most active bunch pushing the idea that current ryobi trash put out is the same as old school Milwaukee craftsmenship. It anit, and anyone working in the field the past 20 years know's this. It's all over priced chink made rebrands.

>>1439486
The 15 amp is the way to go. It has a smooth ride like a Cadillac. I'll use a zall for a lot of small tasks, but just as many jobs require the zall seeing hours of use. Like >>1439229

The bigger saw and extra torque equal more cutting and less shaking your arm.

>>1439813
>It's all over priced chink made rebrands.

no different than any product you would be buying from Dewalt, Bosch, Makita, Metabo, Hitachi, etc.

>>1439818
Joke's on you, Euro Makita's all made in Romania

>>1439829
If you let them talk long enough they'll out themselves.

>>1439829
>Romania

How is that in any way a step up from a Chinese sweat shop.

>muh Hilti quality

>>1439839
In every way. Romania's part of the EU, even if they lie about following half the regulations, that's still infinitely better than anything-goes-China.

>>1439843
This and Romania has better Internet than most of the US and europe. Plus they have souls, while the automatons dont.

Good goy, make sure you buy extra batteries for your cordless tool, only $99 a piece! You can use it for 45 mins straight, only $300!

Hey guys op here, exchanged the Makita this morning for the Milwaukee. It was pissing me off all night. $30 more but I'm glad I did. One finger trigger, no trigger lock, not a bunch of annoying rubber shit all over. I have other Makita tools that are great but they really shit the bed on this saw.

>>1439862
And thus the milfaukee shill shows himself lol.

>>1439877
>Milfaukee
F and W aren't even next to each other. That's not a typo, you're just a dumbass.

>>1439884
I'm spelling it with fau as in faux as in imatation you mouth breather. These ryobi made chink tools are not the Milwaukee tools that built the brand. They are chink imitations. The fact I had to explain that and that you honestly couldn't put that together is proof positive you are a mongoloid

>>1438701
>>1438749
Please go back to reddshit, you're too stupid to use correct formatting here.

>>1439906
As an electrician, I'm stuck with Milwaukee shills all day.

>>1439910
As a regular lurker I see these bait threads every time I stop by. But it's overtly obvious when they shill their brands. I gotta imagine they are swaying the newfags and younger guys with their shitposting else I can't imagine paying these retards to post here. Pro tip don't trust anonymous posters opinions on tools. Research where they are made, learn how they are built what makes it reliable and worth while and then you'll be able to tell which tools are the best fuck for your buck. Name brand loyalty died when they destroyed western manufacturing and shipped it to the automatons. They are going the way of the samurai now. Lets all thank inflation for that.

>>1439906
>Thinks his stupid fucking "pun" is obvious or funny to anyone besides himself
Shut the fuck up dude, nobody is shilling anything you sound like a faggot.

>>1438947
thats wrong
a 5Ah pack will have twice as many cells, which are parallel connected.
That means the pack has half the internal resistance and can deliver twice as much current as the 2Ah pack.
Its up to the tool to actually benefit from that, but an brushed Drill will get an extra kick, especially at low rpms

>>1439813
> I sware I lurk here almost everyday and milfaukee shills

The actual reality is, the second someone mentions Milwaukee there is a heard of Makita faggots yelling and screaming about muh ryobi and much made in china. I find this ironic as fuck because OP bought a chinese makita saw and doesnt like it.

Guess what, there are regular ole people like me who buy and like Milwaukee and dont have a huge hard on for hating them because they are chinese made instead of USA made.
Country of origin only gets you so far nowadays.

> is the same as old school Milwaukee craftsmenship

The motors and electronics are miles better than the weak old stuff. This is across the board for every tool brand and company. The technology and manufacturing we have now mops the floor with what we had 30 years ago.

You have to buy what there is available. Milwaukee isnt USA made, boo hoo. Doesnt mean its shit, it just means a bunch of fat wisconsin faggots refuse to buy it because they shut their factory down.

Its why I dont take the makita shilling seriously at all, they manufacture most of their shit in china too.

Also blue ryobi in the 80s (even the USA made stuff) was shitty. Ryobi nowadays isnt even bad.

>>1439877
>he returned a chinked makita tool
>must be a shill!

Cult of Makita needs to realize that their shitty tools are shitty regardless of whats on the box. If its got a shitty lock that many people had a problem with, its a shit tool.
Only a makita shill or a retard would keep a brand new tool that doesnt work right simply because its baby blue

OP here. Just another little thing that I noticed about the Makita. The chuck is accessible any time on the Milwaukee, even fully retracted. On the Makita, you couldn't access the piece to release the blade unless it was fully extended. The manual actually fucking says that if you need to change the blade and it is retracted, pull the trigger for a second until it extends enough for you to reach it. What a shitshow, no wonder it was $30 less.

>>1439918
True. I'm a fan of Dewalt these days. Solid. I'm not loyal though, I have plenty of Milwaukee and Makita tools.

>>1439718
>its 2018
kys

>>1440037
did it also have that really tight rotating chuck that locked open to load a new blade? i prefer the Milwaukee ones that are more easily accessible, even Ryobi came up with better ways to load their sawzalls that what Makita was doing a few years ago.

>>1440101
Yes, locked open and closed when a blade is inserted

>>1440037
I bought a Dewalt DW304 (impulse buy on 29$ on clearance) and I really love the toolless blade system

I have 2 other reciprocating saws, a Makita and Craftsman Professional both circa 2000 that have tooled systems.
This system holds just as well and its very quick.
Also being able to flip the blade sideways to do flush cuts is really nice too.

>>1440107
I used it to cut a small tree down, and cut the stump really low to the ground

>>1440107
>>1440108
This sawzall will NOT last. It's designed for a homeowner, not a carpenter.
Milwaukee makes the best reciprocating saws on the market. Hands down

I've tried literally every saw on the planet ever made and the Milwaukee M18 FUEL™ Bluetooth-enabled SAWZALL® is the best SAWZALL® in existence, none of the competitors come even close. It is very high quality and sure to last for generations, unlike the competition, which is all made by children in dirty sweatshops in China and falls apart as soon as you try using it. Milwaukee SAWZALL® is the original SAWZALL®, if you buy any other brand, you hate yourself, hate your family and hate your country.

t. not shill

>>1440107
That non adjustable shoe stopped me from buying it. Went with the same makita op did. Would've bought the dewalt at that price though.

>>1440177
So you would rather support a greedy multinational corporation than the poor and hungry Chinese children?

Scumbag

>>1440172
>>1440177
Trying much too hard

>>1440233
The shoe doesn't actually do anything when you are using it, they just get loose and shitty and aren't really a feature that's useful

>>1440177
Imagine if you actually cared about people returning your favorite brands tool this much.
fucking yikes

>>1440177
I can't ever get the Bluetooth to work on mine, is it just my unit or is it just wonky?

>>1440177
>no mention of MILWAUKEE M18 RED LITHIUM BATTERIES™ and MILWAUKEE FUEL REDLINK TECHNOLOGY® to provide 40% more than the competition

fake and gay

>>1440306
>not mentioning their hammer drill having >50% more hard torque on specsheet than all competitors ive checked

I’ve used my Milwaukee™ Fuel™ underwater in my pool and it never skipped a beat. I’ve finally made the switch the all Milwaukee™ power tools from the yellow guys. I love Milwaukee™ Made is USA.

>>1440327
>he doesnt use Nemo Underwater™ power tools

>>1438696
Your needs may vary, OP, but I've never come across anything my 18V Ryobi cordless can't annihilate (with the right blade of course.)

>>1440338
Love my Ryobi

>>1438696
18V Stanley here. Shit sux. The end.

>>1440327
Milwaukee assembles a lot of their top of the line tools in the USA, all the ones with long 5 year warranties.
Not that it matters much baby blue boy

>>1440338
That's the exact same one I have.


Came here to post Ryobi based on >>1438840

>Right now I need it for demolishing old furniture
>trimming trees
>sawzall is way safer than holding a chainsaw one-handed over my head

Literally the exact same reason I got the ryobi with the diablo blades. Trimming trees I sometimes use the hedge trimmer, ryobi brand as well. As long as the branch/thing-i'm-cutting isn't thicker than the blade itself, I haven't ran into an issue using either.

both cordless. Call me a faggot ryobi weekend hobbyist-tier shill all you want. But if you don't need it for professional work that needs constant performance every day, ryobi is perfectly fine.

>>1438696
>Milwaukee
When it comes to sawzalls, Milwaukee is the only name in the game.

>>1440107
>>1440108
I have a few of these, my idiot fucking Mexican employees keep breaking them. So I threaten them (not by saying something stupid like send them back to Mexico - we all hate Trump over here) but tell them I will chop their hands off in the chop saw if they break my tools. They still break them, but they somehow fix and use them all nigger-rigged and shit. I don't care as long as they function. Will have to saw a pic of some of the shit they do. Good workers though. Today I had two crews, one demolishing a stone fireplace and chimney (two stores plus through attic) and dig out a underground oil tank. White people don't do this shit without taking 20 breaks(coffee, cigarette, piss, crochet, circle jerks etc) besides full hour lunch. Mexicans work straight through lunch.

>>1440546
>Don’t like Trump
You can go back with your beaners.

>>1439840
this makes me sad

>>1440108
Were they shooting ring shanks and building walls in the wrong places? What a stupid thing to have to sawzall.

>>1440643
It's one of those retarded senseless stock photos.

>>1440643
Mexican did it

>>1440658
Yeah I know.

It's hard to convey the "we've fucked up, get the sawzall" effect that generally happens in the real world.

>>1438799
>>1438840
>makita
>demolishing old furniture and trimming trees. A sawzall is way safer than holding a chainsaw one-handed over my head.
this big guy will fit all your needs.

Just buy one from harbor freight, it's not a fucking precision tool, it's just something that rubs shit with a blade really fast.

>>1440681
Unless you need that sort of length from the blade (such as cutting trees) that's going to be heavier, more unwieldy, more maintenance, and more dangerous for the user than just using a recip. It will also be a lot more FUN, no argument with you there.

>>1440716
The construction matters and is part of why the "better" brands are better, particularly as it relates to heat management which is a major contributor to the death of any power tool. Don't get me wrong, I've been using a corded CE $20 piece of shit for years now and it's never failed me but it runs noticeably rougher and hotter than say, my buddy's DeWalt. I wouldn't expect mine to survive long under extended daily use but then again I don't need it to so the lesser quality is less of a liability and it does well at eating tree limbs, bushes, fences, 2x4's, decking, bolts, etc.

>>1440716
i bought one of their cheap $20 corded Sawzalls for a job in West Africa where we wernt planning on bringing any of our tools back anyway; it had plenty of power and cut just fine (Diablo metal blades not harbor freight garbage) but the fucker was literally tearing itself apart as i was running it.

i probobly made no more than 50 cuts the entire trip and halfway through the main cooling fan was melting/grinding against the housing and shooting a torrent of molten black plastic at my left arm while i was cutting. i was so glad to give that junker to the darkies and go home to my safe cordless RYOBI™ BRAND RYOBI™ reciprocating saw.

>>1440681
>plastic blade fixture

>>1438696
so
$90 Makita 1 year warranty 11 amp 1 1/8 stroke
$120 Miluakee 5 year warranty 12 amp 1 1/8 stroke

Fuck makita and their one year warranty. Milwuakee is a better deal any way you slice it.

BUT: you can buy the Milwaukee on Amazon for $99, from Northern Tool for $99, or ask Home Depot to price match.

ur welcome happy trails friend

>>1443152
Doesn't mean it's going to last 5 years

Warratny only applies to
>defective in material or workmanship
Does not apply to
>misuse, alterations, abuse, normal wear and tear, lack of maintenance, or accidents.
>normal wear and tear
>normal

defective in material or workmanship doesn't take a year to show up

>>1443188
>actually trying to spin having a shittier warranty as a good thing

>>1443190
>paying 30% more for meaningless drivel

There used to be a framed guarantee for culverts hanging on the wall at the local street department. The city desk jockys insisted that all city purchases came with a guarantee, so they made one special for the city.
>Our culverts, when properly installed are guaranteed to pass water, unless obstructed.

>>1443192
>>paying 30% more for meaningless drivel

Its 25%

> The city desk jockys insisted that all city purchases came with a guarantee

And the OP of this thread insisted he buy and own a tool that works properly, which is why he returned the cheaper tool that didnt live up to it his expectations.

>>1443193
25% more than $90 is $112.50
its 33%
$90 * 1.333 ~= $120
>lrn2math

>>1443152
>burgers get one year warranty on tools

>>1439718

100% Correct.

I don't buy anything with a power cord any more.

>>1439946
>my daddy taught me all I know

>>1441674

>>1443188
>Doesn't mean it's going to last 5 years

If you can get a milwaukee tool made in the last 5 years to not shit the bed in that time you're doing well

>>1443548
see, designed as a toy for s[]yboys
why not do it like every ice chainsaw on the market, screws are even cheaper than those abortions

>>1443563
>>>1443548 (You)
>see, designed as a toy for s[]yboys

>implying it doesn't do what it's designed to do

Most brands do it this way now for cordless chainsaws. Seems to work all the same.

>>1438840
I have a cordless mikita chainsaw at work. I never need to worry about gas or oil mix, but all I do is cut out old fences with it. All my tools but air compressor, nail gun and welder are cordless.

>>1439918
I just read this post in Nigel's voice.

>>1443545
My dad swears off Milwaukee because of blind nationalism.
Im not that stupid.

>>1443549
Milwaukee has been made overseas for like 15 years now. nothing at all has changed "in the last 5 years". They own their factories and run their own production lines.

Its Makita that farms out work to like 10 different factories in 10 different countries.
You want to worry about ambiguity of quality and origin, thats Makita.

>>1438696
Milwaukee because of the red color and brand, gotta make your co-workers and neighbors think you're hot shit.

>>1443847
>your Makita could've been made in Japan, Canada, Germany, Romania, the UK or China
>you should just trust good ol' Milwaukee, it's guaranteed that every single piece is made in China

>>1443898
This.


>>1443847
Milwaukee went through a change over phase from atlas copco to TTI. Only in the last 5-10 has the production value really gone down the shitter.

As anon said tho, I find it amazing you think everything being made in a communist shit hole is better than anything being made in Japan, Canada, the UK, Romania, Belgium, The States, Mexico etc.

>>1440172
Union Carpenter here. Sawzalls come in handy all the time on the job. The dewalt take a beating.

>>1443999
Are union workers in the states the ones who aren't really that good and are a bit lazy?

I'm curious why in the world largest capitalist economy you'd need to stand behind a union if you were good at what you do

>>1444045
Not that unions embody this well because of their political contributions and man in Washington bullshit... it then again the business has a man in Washington too.

Anyway, collective bargaining is very reasonable. The company has an entire HR department designed to maximize their profits. This means reducing your pay and benefits. They gain advantages over an individual: the individual doesnt know what the average pay actually is for his job, and even if he did, he has only negotiated for his salary once or twice, while the hr boss has negotiated thousands of times with everyone else in the company. Hr can also give you the run around when you try to collect benefits. Having a union rep to represent you will make them actually give you your due. Finally when being disciplined or investigated by security, your rep again has seen this before, security has seen it before. You the person about to get fucked is the only one with your head spinning. Without help you could duck yourself even if it wasn't your fault.

>>1443898
>being in full control from beginning to end in your own factory is a bad thing
>farming out work is a good thing
>actually pretending that the monopoly that TTI is in the power tool community, there arent some TTi factory made parts inside of other brands of tools, maybe even the chink makitas.

How many actual tool part factories do you think there are?
Do you think this is the 1920s where you could buy a drill motor from a 75 different small companies in 75 different US states?

Those factories were shut down in the fucking 70s. And to say
>but my 80s sears tools say made in the USA! Has to have USA made parts!

They also said that 110 table saws were running at 3HP, because the labeling laws were very lax back then. There is a reason since the laws have changed that it has to say "built" or "assembled" now because people were buying chinese tools and relabeling them as USA made by reboxing them. And it was legal at the time.

>>1443997
> Only in the last 5-10 has the production value really gone down the shitter.

I bought my first chinese milwaukee tool around 2007 in a brick and mortar store. 2 years after the buyout. A long drawn out change over phase didnt actually exist.

Just say what you really feel
>they suck because they are made in china now!

>I find it amazing you think everything being made in a communist shit hole is better than anything being made in Japan, Canada, the UK, Romania, Belgium, The States, Mexico etc.

Use a little bit of critical thinking skills anon.
Like I said here >>1444135
Are you dumb enough to think that a makita tool made in Belgium or United States are using motors and controllers made in those countries? Switches? Power cords?
They do the bear minimum to deal with labeling laws which is something like 55%.
Hey the instructions and box were printed here! And so were the labels! And the rubber grip!

The heart of the tools are literally using chinese parts. China is the worlds largest producer and exporter by a very large margin. They are the only ones actually producing and innovating using state of the art factories, not worrying about the livelihoods or wages of the workers, or the environment or anything that civilized countries do.

Everything costs money, where the money goes is whats important.
>paying high wages, and taxes, and epa disposal, and shipping in raw materials and paying for parts from other countries and companies
vs
>paying almost no wages, no taxes, disregard the environment, own the means of your production front to back making your components cheaper, dirt cheap shipping agreements with other countries

You either can pocket all of the profits and produce junk while you watch as your competitors eat you alive, or you can produce high quality tools and undercut your competition.

Saying >muh commie country doesnt mean anything grandpa. Especially when you are sucking the cock of a company making a lot of tools in china already.

>>1443847
>Milwaukee is better because they make all their shit in China
>>1444135
>>1444144
>Makita is worse because they make some of their shit in China

>>1444147
Understand where you money is going.
Objectively its going to cost more money to do what makita does, and objectively is does not make a better tool. Its makes a more expensive tool, so either you are paying more for nothing or Makita is cutting corners or speccing things crappier than they could to stay competitive in pricing.

To cry about Milwaukee because its made in china is fucking stupid.

>>1444151
>t. faggot that doesn't understand basic economics and modern manufacturing processes.
Just search for Chinese manufacturing videos. And then stuff that dipshit opinion of your back up ur retarded ass.

>>1444144
Your formatting...The way u type demonstrate's a lack of intellectual abilities, you belong with people with IQ's as low as yours.
Go back

>>1444144
You've gone the long way to saying nothing of value. Critical thinking is only worthwhile when you consider things manufactured outside of China to be a reason to devalue the production, which I don't.

>>1444135
>being in full control from beginning to end in your own factory is a bad thing

You're implying the work ethic of Chinese labour is going to equal to that of someone from Japan, Hong Kong, the UK etc. Spoiler, it's not. If the ethic is poor the work suffers. This isn't a surprise in the fact Milwaukee have a nasty rep for having a lot of shitty electronics.

>>1444144
>he thinks corporations will not pocket profits from being made in china

>he thinks made in china means that they will put more money in quality,and design

>He thinks chinks will not try to goy big corp in factories cutting corners, using molds to long.
support non-chink nations with money flow> supporting chink shit subsidized b chink goverment.

>>1444768
>You're implying the work ethic of Chinese labour is going to equal to that of someone from Japan, Hong Kong, the UK etc. Spoiler, it's not

Wholly dependent on your quality control. Also at what point does better labor matter when you are cutting costs in manufacturing and raw material to pay for that higher quality of labor?

You may hold some principles and would rather pay to keep jobs in certain places, but realize you are the minority. This is going all the way back to the 70s. Things are so far gone it doesnt even matter what you think.
You want a quality tool made from quality domestic materials, and would pay the quadruple the price it would have to cost? Tough shit, you get to choose between chinese tools, or chinese parts assembled by some poor illegal mexican working in a shitty USA factory with morale on par with the chinese.

>>1444911
>>he thinks corporations will not pocket profits from being made in china

Every single company is a bloodsucking corporation that only exists to make profit.

Its mental gymnastics to think that Makita is taking less profits to have some sort of "principle". Its all calculated, they are making up the profits they lose in wages by cutting costs elsewhere while remaining competitive.

In a lot of cases they cant justify high wages and taxes so to stay competitive they import out of china.

> that they will put more money in quality,and design

R&D has nothing to do with your factories. Its not like the factory workers are designing the tools. You think Iphones are made in a fucking foxconn factory?

>>He thinks chinks will not try to goy big corp in factories cutting corners, using molds to long.

They have, which is why its an important to own your own factories and do your own quality control measures instead of having a much smaller stake in the whole quality control process.

>>1444677
>Go back

To where?
The Dewalt factory with all my other mexican buddies who dont speak english putting those beautiful yellow tools together?
God bless the USA and all of its wonderful factory workers.

>>1444672
>modern manufacturing processes.

You mean bleeding edge technologies that are being used in brand new factories... that are being built in china, or thailand, or india?

Those factories sure are fuck arent being built in the USA with all the overhead and regulations.

>>1444928
>You want a quality tool made from quality domestic materials, and would pay the quadruple the price it would have to cost? Tough shit, you get to choose between chinese tools, or chinese parts assembled by some poor illegal mexican working in a shitty USA factory with morale on par with the chinese.

I simply don't agree. There are plenty brands that manufacture outside of China. Metabo, Fein, Bosch, DeWalt, Mafell, Makita, all manufacture for some if not all lines, outside of China.

Mafell and festool are German made from German made parts for example.

While it could just mean assembled I have Makita made in the UK.

Just do yourself a favour and go back to pol

>>1438696
just bought an M12 Fuel Hackzall kit with a free 3/8 Ratchet, should be enough for small jobs and one-handed tree trimming, the 18v Ryobi ive been using works well but its a little awkward to hold up over my head cutting for longer periods.

>>1445868
the complete order.