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>Found some woodland which hasn't been visited by anyone in years. Completely overgrown by brambles. Land is owned by some large international owned oil company who owns lots of land around here and don't do anything with it.
>
>I've cleared out a square patch of brambles and I'm going to build a cabin out of pallets. Layed down some concrete blocks (I can only transport 7 at a time as I have a small car). Found a local dude who can sell me 80 pallets cheap.
>
>Gonna put a membrane in-between the pallets and the blocks.
>
>How do I level out the ground? I have a spade and string.
>
>Also any additional advice is most appreciated. First time doing something like this.

>> No.1329187

>>1329185

>I can only transport 7 at a time as I have a small car

Do you drive a smart For Two?

>> No.1329188

you can start here
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+level+ground+with+a+spade+and+string&tbm=isch
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+build+cabin+out+of+pallets

>> No.1329216

>>1329185
Why the stupid greentext?

>> No.1329232

Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they don't check on it

>> No.1329236

>>1329232
maybe they do aerial surveys from time to time

>> No.1329275
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1329275

or maybe OP will have a secret cabin on free land for years to come

>> No.1329276

Camo the roof because the world (and police) use Google Earth.

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>>1329276
fucking genius idea! do this and you will never be found.

>> No.1329289

>>1329185
>trespassing because

You're going to get shot or arrested. luls

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1329345

>>hey guys I got my house done
>>made from 7 cinder blocks
>>some wood from contaminated pallets
>>I only used a shovel and a string to build it.

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1329351

>>1329345
Fuck you
You are not me
I would never build a house with no windows.
Pic related.
Btw, I forgot to put the blocks down before I built my house. Any suggestions on how to get the blocks under the house.
Using just a shovel and a string?

>> No.1329398

>>1329185
There's a tractor mulcher going through there at the end of this years bird nesting season. Don't put anything nice in your hut because i'll be smashing the fuck out of it with the mulcher.

>> No.1329428

>>1329216
Because reddit.

>> No.1329481

>>1329185
>tl;dr: OP kindly creates a shack for local meth heads to shit in.

>> No.1329483

>>1329289
found the amerimutt

>> No.1329495

>>1329345
did the nigglet spontaneously appear when you finished it?

>> No.1329669

>>1329185

Dig up the sod
Rake the dirt flat
Put large /ong boards down
Place level on boards
See where the rises and dips are
Rake again
Then tamp down

Good luck with you meth and or rape shack.

>> No.1329673

>brambles
what kind of faggotry is this?

>> No.1329705

>>1329483
>personal property doesnt matter in other countries
>if you actually owned property you would be OK with people building permanent structures on it

Of all the bad things about America, getting shot in the face because you are violating someone elses property doesnt seem like the worst thing. Its hard to keep track of land, and people are faggots

>> No.1329708

>>1329185
i own 120 acres and found a shed like this on my property. i burned it down and setup a game camera. never saw anyone though.

>> No.1329712

>>1329705
Look up squatters rights.

>>1329708
Keep burning them down. 7 years and you've a new owner.

>> No.1329719

>>1329705
Only legal in Arkansas I think.

Depending on jurisdiction, generally, you need to give notice to vacate and then call the police. You can't actually threaten/shoot someone off your property.

If they are stealing your shit, threatening you, or in your house, that's no longer simple trespassing

This is vital so you don't shoot the gas company or power technician cutting across your property to locate a pipe.

>> No.1329826

>>1329669
Thanks for the advice.

I realised I only need the blocks level which makes life easier

>> No.1329829

>>1329185
Do not build on property that is not yours...you fucken dumb ass.

>> No.1329870

>>1329829
It's owned by some oil company that aquired it from the government by accident and have not done anything with it in 20 years.

Land is so expensive here it would take 3 years to save up money for it.

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1330007

>>1329870
>>3 years
Well we wouldn’t want to work for and earn what we have.
We would rather take from others.
Welcome to socialism
Just take what you want.

>> No.1330013

does man own the rivers and the mountais as well?

>> No.1330024

>>1330007
Socialism isn't taking what you want. thats stealing, which is what op is doing.
Socialism is expectin everything to be given to you, which is what op believes in.

>> No.1330120

>>1329705
True. You never really own lamd anyway. Last time i checked i dont pay anual taxes on my ducking golf clubs...

>> No.1330197
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1330197

Op here.

Made this today in sketchup.

This is based on pallets being 1.2m x 1m.

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1330208

>>1330197
>build house
>fence off yard
>live in for 3 years
>claim squatters rights
>free land

Make sure you take the same path to your house each time that way you can claim an easement to get on your property as well

>> No.1330211

>>1329870
>oil company
Fuck those cunts polluting the environment and jewing me on gas. I that was some farmer's land I would be very much against you, op, but fuck corporations.

>>1330197
>>1330208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXwO9piYaac

>> No.1330220

>>1330197
just make flat roof with small incline, unless you really want a triangle roof

>> No.1330241

>>1330208
Its 10 years here. I'm very happy with living rent free for a period of time though. If i keep it after 10 years that's great too.

>>1330211
Yep this is my attitude, i wouldn't do it to a farmer but don't mind doing it to a large corporation.

>>1330220
I am not attached to a triangle roof at all.

The only thing is, i don't have any solid wooden beams and im making the whole thing out of pallets, will a 3x2 grid of pallets be stable enough? I thought the triangle might be more structurally sound, im not attached to it though.

>> No.1330244

>>1330241

>Its 10 years here.

It's always some obscure short period of time until you actually ask someone who knows the law and it normally includes you living there for nearly two decades and paying a utility bill and some sort of taxes relating to the land for that period of time

>> No.1330262

>>1330208

What if one day before the 3 years. Big oil hires a team to wipe you out?

>> No.1330277

>>1330262
i currently pay £420 a month rent.

If I live there for 3 years then they kick me out I save £15120

Assuming I spend £2000 over 3 years to make it comfy that's £12k profit.

Plus if they do kick me out I should be able to save most of the stuff and dismatle it easy.

>> No.1330281

>>1330277

*kill you, like three men and a hammer type thing.

>> No.1330284

>>1330281
i'll just have to take the risk.

>> No.1330312

>>1330277
bitch it's going to cost more than £2000 over 3 years to make it comfy. it'd £200000 over 3 years to make some pallets nailed together by a retarded person comfy

>> No.1330469

>>1330312
Ok to make it comfy.

Propane Hot water heater = £160
Calor gas heater = £100
Solar panel and battery £200
12v TV and android box = £150

Bed plus sofa and everything I can get from freecycle.

>> No.1330504

>>1330281
Yeah that's not going to happen in the UK...

>> No.1330507
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1330507

>>1330241
making it an arc makes it most stable without any support
the top could be a bit angled to make water flow down

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1330510

Buddy, what you want is to paint the roof after you finish. That way it blends in from satellite images. I'd recommend to paint it black with a shot of white. I hear it matches anything. Maybe put some leaves on top too.
Oh and you are definitely going to need a solar panel and a fridge. Don't want that imitation crab meat going to waste.
Now that i think of it. I think your best way to hide it would be to put it underground. Dig a deep hole and bury some sort of container. Save the pallet wood to make furniture.

>> No.1330513

>>1330510
>Imitation crab meat
Have you also been watching Mr Ramsey?

>> No.1330516

>>1330507
Thank you sir, I will do my design based on this.

So current plan is:
-pull apart pallets and join boards together to make long boards for beams (would they be strong enough?)
-Build an arc frame using said beams on top of regular boards used for walls
-Nail more boards between beams
-Cover in a waterproof membrane
-Cover that in some sort of roofing material (is it called roofing felt?)

Does this sound like it would work or does anyone have any improvements or advise?

Thank you for all suggestions and help so far, it's been very helpful.

>> No.1330518

>>1329185
Now see, the last thing you wanted to do was bushhog all your camouflage. The only access you needed was a little deer trail through the undergrowth. Ideally, this leaves a canopy for you to travel under, blocking view of a trail from above. Then sacrifice height of a shelter to hide under branches and brambles.

FWIW, you'll probably get caught by some guys hunting who work for the landowner.

You may already be caught by motion detection cameras that hunters put out

>> No.1330519

>>1329288
but how will op find his fort if he can't see it

>> No.1330540
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1330540

>>1330513
Lurk more

>> No.1330651

>>1329232
>>1329236

they dont, its nothing more than an speculative investment for them. besides: does not seem like OP is going to build a 20 room mansion, so even if he has to tear it down someday hes going to be okay ;)

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1330708

>>1329185
As soon as you land a shed there you'll summon the Gypos and other pikey ass hoes - like laying down a house in Monopoly.

>> No.1330716

>>1330262
That’s the risk of squatting. Getting found and sued before you can claim rights. I would actually partially dig it into ground and use a sod roof to conceal it if you want to stay hidden. Creating garden space and accessing water can all be pulled into the rights later.

This is all complex and varies by country. If you’re serious I’d recommend talking to a lawyer before you start and get things set up right to begin with.

>> No.1330779

>>1330007
>>1330024
Fairly sure hording land with no real intent in using it is kind of asinine.

Getting sick of that and wanting some of the land the rich hoarder hasn't touched in years does not seem unreasonable.

>> No.1330783

>>1330277
You will want to invest some actual money in the construction for the sake of creature comforts and not having a bad storm collapse it on you.

Perhaps a two stage plan where you build a work shed first then start on your cabin(after researching effective housing for your region) once things settle. If you dont get chased off first.

Also, keep track of your living there and property maintenance. Most forms of Squatters rights need proof you are maintaining the property to claim it. Also, it works to prove your not some meth head and are actually taking efforts to make the place better.

>keep in mind no utilities means you have no electricity, no emergency services, no water you don't carry in and no place to shit and you will have to deal with that for years

>> No.1330798

>>1330783
why do you greentext like that?

>> No.1330801

>>1329351
i'll admit i chuckled

>> No.1330803

>>1329345
I don't see anything wrong with this outhouse.

>> No.1330807

>>1330798
Because I felt like it, faggot

>> No.1331001

>>1329185
Are you like 10, OP? Because this is the way children construct clubhouses.

>> No.1331007

>>1330779
>Getting sick of that and wanting some of the land the rich hoarder hasn't touched in years does not seem unreasonable.

That's not the way the real world works. Get a job and buy your own land, you fucking loser faggot.

>> No.1331030

>>1329275
Anyone know wtf bird this is and if there are other gifs? Im dying

>> No.1331033
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>>1330211
Dude. Calm/go fuck yourself.

You do realise AMERICAN OIL MAKES FOR CHEAPER GAS PRICES right?

Also over 85% of the shit you come into contact with is made from oil and real men drill holes thousands of feet into the ground to get it. Then other real men come by every year or two to pull all that shit back up out of the ground and make repairs.

Occasionally some old retired guy or a useless cunt like you will drive by and make sure the pumpjack is moving up and down. Then tell the men/younger men in oldman case, to go and fix it.

You don't like it fucking walk newfaggot.

And no shoes either because rubber soles. No moccasins unless hand scavenged and sewn leather. And no asphault roads cause tar and rocks. Actually no roads at all faggot. All modern day roads require rocks dug out of the ground by heavy machinery.

Think about this shit while you are laying in your natural gas heated home with a manufactuted tin roof or fucking shingles.

(Natural gas comes from oil wells newfaggot.)

>NB4 MUH PROPANE REEEEE. Bullshit. And even if so it comes out of oil wells to.

>NB4 muh-muh-wood stove. Hope u didnt use a gas or electric powered chainsaw.

>NB4 I cut and chop ricks of wood with nothing but my bare hands and an axe reeeee!

Hope you dug the ore and forged the axe yourself and then carved your own handle.


You live in a somewhat civilized world because blue collar men and white collar faggots.

Anon will actually try and argue this...

>> No.1331034

>>1330241
8 foot 2x4 is like 3 bucks anon....

>> No.1331035

>>1330244
Yup. Shit like having a rental and between tennants the neighbor builds a 50 square foot garden half way ibto your yard and fence it off.

After a few years of it and nobody noticing, county appraisers see fence and assume its theirs and tax them accordingly.

Home owner shows up for whatever reason a few year latter and says fuckoff.

>nope

Their land now

>> No.1331036

>>1330262
Shit... lol

HEY OP. You should legit get some buddies and just build a hobo camp. If you can run electric and watter and register a 911 adress. Mfw anon is on the news reeeeing about his pallet city.


Please PLEASE do this

>> No.1331037

>>1330277
Anon. Build pallet home. Pay yourself $450 a month until u can buy a camper

>> No.1331040

>>1330783
Find 2 adresses on either side.

911

INA WOODS UNDER MY PALLET HOUSE BETWEEN THESE TWO ADDRSSES

call a amberlamps

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1331044

>>1329185

$400 if u want a cement pad to put it on so you dont wake up on top of snakes and bugs.

Use some pallet wood ir other scrap to add on and reinforce it.

Mutherfucker is a flimsy beercan metal box but hey, $275.

>> No.1331064

>>1330208
>>1330716

Fucking squatters.

The best way to deal with them is shoot them and claim they were trying to kill you.

No cop will ever side with subhuman squatters over real people.

>> No.1331065

>>1330803
It was built by a humanitarian organization, that's why.

>> No.1331068

>>1331007
Look how great we Americans are! We have no poor because they die of flu and cold as we believe they should work In order to survive!
>meanwhile in the civilized world we take care of less fortunate people because Capital hasn't corrupted us to that point yet

>> No.1331070

>>1330510
I come on /diy/ maybe once a year but even I recognize these memes

>> No.1331075
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>>1331068
And then this happens.
Can 250 million tax paying Europeans support 2 billion economic refugees?

>> No.1331084

>>1329705
Shooting someone because they strayed onto land by accident, thought was OK to ramble across, who saw no signs that said they wern't allowed to be there, didn't come across any fence or boundary that would indicate they shouldn't be hiking there, who aren't damaging anything, stealing anything, leaving anything behind, who have zero malicious intent, strikes me as something that belongs in the middle ages, in a dictatorship or one of those shithole countries with backwards Islamic laws and ideals - sharia or whatever the fuck it's called.

The way it's done in civilised countries is that you talk to the person, let them know that they shouldn't be there, or how they should behave and what is expected of them if the landowner doesn't mind people rambling. It's called Freedom to roam or the right to roam. It allows reasonable access to uncultivated land, such as mountainous areas, valleys, heaths, moors, forests, meadows, beaches, sand dunes and other common land like parks, areas of natural beauty, landmarks, historical sites etc. You are allowed to hike and walk with dogs. You arent allowed to cycle, horseride, use motor vehicles, cut down trees, shrubs, plants, cannot hunt or trap animals and may only camp or light fires where specifically permitted. You can't go on any land that is being farmed, has livestock or is cultivated for any purpose, has any property on it, is a garden, across railtracks, basically any private property that is being used.

>> No.1331092

>>1329185
In case, that this is not bat.
If You somehow manage to build a cabin there, You must post pictures of building and living there.
>I am so curious.

Also how will You manage girls? If you are not that type of guy, which will not let her leave anymore, it is not advisable to take some lads there.

>> No.1331099

>>1330779
>Fairly sure hording land with no real intent in using it is kind of asinine.

You just want gibs. Fail less and put all your effort into improving your financial situation. That also permits better cucksheds.

>> No.1331100

>>1329712
>Keep burning them down. 7 years and you've a new owner.

Look up the LOCAL laws on adverse possession and posting of property. Adverse possession doesn't work like you think, and the owner can file police reports for every time he finds evidence of trespassing.

>> No.1331124

>>1329345
nice cuckshed you got there, nigglet

you will finally stay dry in the rainy days while i'm nuttin' on your hoodrat momma's face

>> No.1331130
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1331130

>>1331075
They are fleeing from war you racist pig.

>> No.1331139

>>1329870
And yet even factoring in the cost to move, we have $1000 an acre land here.

Be legitimate, but a plot somewhere else and move there. Then the only thing you need to worry about is building codes if they have them...

>> No.1331182

>>1330807
Mad that your stupid habit got questioned?
Every day until you like it.

>> No.1331187

>>1330013
That was meant to be profound, but man owns what he can take and hold. That includes mountains and waterways. For details, see local laws and customs. Now go be yungtarded somewhere else. You are why people like me work to kill enemies of freedom. You cannot be reasoned with, but you can be run over by Mopars of Peace.

>> No.1331188

>>1331130
No, they are fleeing to the gibs. If they weren't cowards they would fight like the Zulu and other warriors. What we get are the losers, the trash, the worthless.

>> No.1331190

>>1331182
Nope, just confirming that you are worthless

>newfag

>> No.1331205

>>1331068
>what is socialism.

Mutherfucker we give perfectly fine people money, food, school, and phones so they can fuckoff all day while we work.

Your only poor and die of cold in america if you are a fucking junkie degenerate and retarded...

>> No.1331206

>>1331075
Mfw bleeding heart liberals will still fight tooth and nail to turn us into a rapfugee breeding zone...

>> No.1331207

>>1331084
>YEEHAW TEXAS. PEWPEW

>> No.1331208

>>1331187
>mopars of peace > islamic trucks of peace

>> No.1331227

>>1331033
ANON UTTERLY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>> No.1331378

>>1331100
It’s easier just to burn them down when occupant is gone.

>> No.1331426

>>1331130
>be Syrian
>country is at war
>instead of fighting like a man, run like a bitch
>instead of going to Saudi Arabia to be in a culture similar to my own, travel half a world to get free European tax payer money
>rape children at swimming pools during "sexual emergency"
>no punishment

>> No.1331520

>>1331188
Yet here you are shitposting instead of fighting like your vikangz ancestors

>> No.1331527

>>1329870
>Land is so expensive here it would take 3 years to save up money for it.
So... Not expensive at all? Quite cheap, actually?

>> No.1331630
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>>1331227
KEK
A M E R I C A


https://youtu.be/heMCodsfl9w

>> No.1332477

>>1331030
Those are grebes. The GIF is sped up which makes it a lot funnier.

>> No.1332729

>>1331527
that is quite cheap. ive seen places an hours drive from LA central for less than $100k. in australia we're looking at 30 year mortgages if you pay 3/4 of your wages into the mortgage.

>> No.1332730

>>1330262
this is precisely the point of squatting. land gets acquired then forgotten by people who are so rich that nobody even visits the property. without squatting you would end up with land titles getting lost and that land being locked up just because people are too wealthy to forget about entire tracts of land they own.

>> No.1332735

>>1331188
no, what we get are the businessmen. they dont care about law. they just count their priviledge points to the court and they get let off no matter what. even if its not true, they're still black and niggers going to prison for committing crimes is racist because there are so many niggers in prison so obviously we must just be ignoring the disproportionate amount of crimes committed by whites.

>> No.1332743

>>1330469
>Propane Hot water heater
Why would you want to heat water that's already hot?

>> No.1332980

>>1331001
>this is the way children construct clubhouses.
Nailed it.

>> No.1332983

>>1331084
>You are allowed to hike and walk with dogs
Not in the US on private property.
>It's called Freedom to roam or the right to roam.
Again, not in the US, try it in WNC and you'll disappear.

>> No.1332991

>>1331033
nice try ivan.

>> No.1332997

>>1332983
Many states, including PA, don't consider it a crime of trespass unless stringent posting requirements are met. Therefore a right to access is implied.

Source: I'm a landowner who has been in court over this.

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1333003

>>1332980
Even children have dreams.

>> No.1333095

>>1331426
Kys

>> No.1334489

>>1329185
prepare to get raped for tresspassing
also paying for pallets top retard

>> No.1336442

>>1330244
>>1331035
Actual, Hostile, Open, Notorious, Exclusive, Continuous.

>> No.1336446

>>1331068
>what is welfare
>what are food stamps
>what are homeless shelters

Meanwhile in Sweden:
http://www.operationreachthelost.com/homeless-veteran-sweden-freezes-death-refugees-given-free-food-shelter/

>> No.1336448

>>1331130
>war in Syria
>boat is full of "refugees" from Africa
Maybe your schools should teach you geography

>> No.1336556

>>1332983
In Texas you can flat ass ooen carry a sword and decaoitate a bitch foe trespassing

>> No.1336558

>>1332730
No faggot you are wrong it's all oublic record...

>> No.1336561

>>1332477
Thank you anon!

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1336569

>>1332477
Was not disapointed

>> No.1336765

>>1336556
Wow, you must have like zero wetback entries across your border

>> No.1336808

>>1336765
Not on texas.

They have tex mex tho. Faggots think they are better than real mexicans and hate them a lot. Ironic i know.

Its just so fucking big and so low population they get fuckt

>> No.1336833

>>1330516
>pull apart pallets

Not as easy as it sounds
Most pallets use ridged nails/staples
The wood will break before the nails pull out

If you plan on dismantling them, check before you buy that they will come apart

>> No.1337315

>>1332983
WNC? is this a state with three letters wtf

>> No.1337318

>>1336833
Sawzall or buy new imo.

>> No.1337964

>>1332983
Right, he said in civilized countries, not Hickistan.

>> No.1339355

>>1329276
>>1329288
Or he could built it under a large tree that provided good cover

>> No.1339357

>>1331044
These things are garbage. I have had two of them that had roof collapses in severe snow. You must, MUST, reinforce the roof with extra metal studs or 2x4

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1339558

>>1331033
screencapped for posterity

>> No.1340182

>>1331378
Or in there. Both work.
>Shit another meth lab burned down