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I'm a building handyman. I'm looking to buy a new drill for myself as I'm getting a bigger check than usual this week. What should I get? At work we use dewalt 18V and I like those, but I'm new at the job and I don't know a whole lot about drills. My dad passed in May and I got his Rayobi but I don't like it as much as the dewalt. I also worked with a guy who used a Makita I really liked so I'm looking at those too. I think they are made by the same company as dewalt, too. Suggestions appreciated, thanks

>> No.1311426
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>>1311415
It looks like God directed you to the correct option when you chose that picture. Get the LXT li-ion and it works with a bunch of other tools (wider product range than most other manufacturers). Also if you can find a deal on the drill/impact driver kit, go for it. It's a tool I never thought I'd use but now I use the driver for all screws except drywall and only use the drill for holes that I don't have a hex bit for.

>> No.1311440

>muh makita

Gas yourselves, fags

>> No.1311442

>>1311440
and what do you use you fuckin waebooo>

>> No.1311446

>>1311442
>uses nip tools
>calls other weaboos

LMAO

>> No.1311448

>>1311446
thats the joke you fucking dumbass. Have fun when your canadian made rigid sircular saw throws a blade right between your eyes.

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>>1311415
I'm also a building maintenance guy, and like >>1311426 said, the Makita LXTs are great. I bought the brushless hammer drill + impact driver combo 4 years ago and havn't had a single problem with either. Came with two 3Ah batteries that not only hold a charge for a long time, but also charge very quickly when you need it. 100% happy with them, I'm considering getting more cordless Makita tools

>> No.1311451

>>1311450
>>1311426
Thanks I think I'll go with Makita then. I remember really liking it when I used it anyway.

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>>1311450
I'd recommend the leaf blower if you find a good deal. I use it in so many cases when I can't be bothered to start up the gas blower. Blow the snow off my car in the morning, blow the drywall dust off the walls before painting. Blow out the microwave when a soup blows up in there. I've switched from vacuuming my house to blowing my carpet dust out the door. The only bad part is it lasts about 15 mins on high with the 5 Ah batteries, but for normal grass clipping and leaf blowing you can use it on low for like an hour.
Unrelated but I'm thinking of planting a hedgerow this spring so I can justify buying the 36V reciprocating hedge trimmer.

>> No.1311457

>>1311451
Go for it, you won't be dissapointed I don't think. I really like having the hammer function on the drill for drilling holes in concrete/brick... don't need it often, but boy, does it come in handy on the rare occasion I do

>>1311454
Funny thing is, that just might be the very last cordless tool I would ever think of getting, hah... I'll definitely reconsider. Not fussing with a cord/ gas seems like a huge advantage now that I think about it. I really want a cordless circular saw and sawzall, but any combo kit that includes both has a drill and driver too, which I already own... the search continues I suppose

>> No.1311459

>>1311457
You will find many uses for the blower. I seriously considered getting the 18v $60 hand blower they have based on my experience with the big one. I haven't tried the makita battery circular saw, but I borrowed a milwuakee 18v that was probably 1/10 the torque of my corded skil saw. I was really disappointed and it made me hesitate to buy one. Another nice one (for me) is the oscillating saw/sander/scraper. I used it to cut out some bad wood siding and also on a couple tongue and groove floor boards. Was nice not dealing with an extension cord 30' up a ladder.

>> No.1311460

>>1311426
Meme tier chainsaw.... blue Bosch drill in background that gets actual use... yup looks about right

>> No.1311465

>>1311459
Yeah that's what I'm afraid of, the cordless tools not performing as well as the corded ones, I already have corded saws anyways so I'll probably hold off based on what you said. Funny thing, I had the makita cordless multitool/ oscillating saw thrown in, free, when I bought my drill/ driver combo... and I havn't even gotten past unboxing it. Think it's time I broke that thing out, sounds handy as all hell really. Getting sick of fussing with an old half-working dremel my coworkers never seem to care to buy replacement blades/ attachments for

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>>1311460
Man, I felt the same way, not my pic, but I got one as a gift and you'd be suprised at how often you think to grab that instead of the loppers, the axe or the hedge trimmers. Point is the battery stuff makes life easier. I processed all of this years firewood with that on like 5 charges. Talk all the shit you want (like the guys on the chainsaw threads do) but I guarantee you because of convenience my battery saw gets like 5x the use of anyones gas saw.
>>1311465
I really want to try the 36v battery cc, it might be awesome. Most every other tool that went battery is superior, but it's the high HP stuff that can't compete. Do try the oscillator, I went from a very decent harbor freight $15 corded and I will gladly use up my charge cycles on the cordless just for convenience sake. I've been doing pic related on plaster with a $15 carbide blade by dremel. Someone needs to start making these blades for cheap, would be a goldmine.

>> No.1311474

>>1311469
Damn man, do I feel you, whenever you're working with anything dusty like plaster those blades wear down and dull faster than shit. But either way, I'll throw that oscillator in my kit and give it a whirl... better than sitting unused, anyways

>> No.1311477

>>1311454
I use the small Makita blower to blow the dust out of the garage and start charcoal. Nothing starts charcoal faster than it.

>> No.1311513

>>1311446
>nip tools made tool in murica before maga and dewalt band wagoning.

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>>1311469
Ever try one of these?
https://www.amazon.com/Qbit-SQ1000-S-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-Single/dp/B01GKKE2W0

>> No.1311717

>>1311415
>Better than you need tier:
Hilti, Mac, Fein, Festool/Protool, Snap On, Professional Panasonics, Nemo Underwater

> "Good drill" tier
Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Blue Bosch, Hitatchi, Metabo

>high end home-use tier
24v Kobalt, Ridgid

>good enough for around the house tier
Ryobi, porter cable, black and decker, craftsman, Worx, 20v Kobalt, Stanley

>Chinese flea market tier
Wen, Hercules, Bauer, Earthquake

>literally who tier
Greenworks, Genesis, Rockwell, Triton, everything else

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>>1311459
if you are getting a good makita circular saw go all out for the 36v rear handle saw, its the only thing they make that comes close to the power of a corded worm drive. their 6 1/2" brushless saw is nice for small jobs but the rear handle saw rips right through any you put in front of it.

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>>1311460
Makita has a newer version of that chainsaw with a brushless motor and larger cutting bar, its very highly reviewed and has enough torque to keep up with many gas chainsaws of similar size.

>> No.1311741

>>1311415
a $20 drill with a cord is far better than anything cordless

also I have only broken 4 corded drills
one black n decker 1/2 inch hammer drill with a big 7.5 amp motor. was using one of those cone shaped step up bits to make a 3/4 hole in 5/16 thick steel
it had 2 speeds. it was on high speed and going really fast
the chuck snapped off from the drill

the other three I got used
a Craftsman 3/8 drill wore out a bushing and then stripped a gear
the other black n decker was a little 1/4 inch chuck. one day it was just not working. pull the trigger and get nothing. not worth the trouble to take it apart
I had a Harbor Freight 3/8 drill that the chuck has 3 teeth in there that holds the bit but one of them don't move
I also have another Harbor Freight that got extremely hot and it still worked but there was a constant smell of burning insulation. threw it in the scrap pile.

>I spend a lot of time with drills

>> No.1311773

>>1311741
maybe if you bought something that wasnt from a shit brand they wouldnt break down during regular work.

>> No.1311776

>>1311773
>assuming I have not wore out a dewalt and Milwaukee and a Makita grinder

>> No.1311777

>>1311776

over what time period?

>> No.1311782

>>1311777
the Makita grinder was used from an auction and then used a lot more. I would guess 80 hours.
dewalt 3/8 drills are probably not any better than black n decker. the final job was over an hour with a wire brush on heavily rusted metal and then drilling holes in it and the chuck got really lose and sloppy from the plastic frame of the drill.

>> No.1311784

I recently picked up a 18v Milwaukee M18 FUEL brushless still/driver + impact and I’ve had zero issues with either of them. Plenty of power omg and wayyyy nicer than an old Dewalt drill I had prior.

>> No.1311888

>>1311459
>I borrowed a milwuakee 18v that was probably 1/10 the torque of my corded skil saw.

ITT: LIES
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and poor spelling

>> No.1312270

>>1311782
>I buy cheap drills
>I buy used shit
>it all breaks!!!

>i do not do maintenance it is all shit

>> No.1312271

>>1311415
Makita and Milwaukee are the best. I like Milwaukee a little better but both are great. Dewalt's are larger and heavier with less torque and not very good battery technology.

>> No.1312274

>>1311741
It's not the 1980s anymore. Try a new high end cordless power tool and tell me how it's not better than a $20 black & decker.

>> No.1312276

>>1312270
what maintenance could you possibly do with drills?
other than putting a drop of oil on the chuck

if you use things a lot on tough jobs every drill eventually wears out
even the old metal case 3/4 inch chuck 15 pound monster drill has a cracked trigger guard ant taped up cord

>> No.1312280

>>1312274
to be fair
>comparing high end tool with 20$ bottom of the decker

>> No.1312296

>>1312274
you mean a tool with the same torque same speed and the batteries get drained and eventually need replaced?
and it costs 6 times as much
and then after maybe a year more money goes to the battery jew

id say the life of the motor and chuck are roughly equal

>> No.1312455

>>1312276
-your B&D probably needed new brushes that's an easy fix
-the cracked trigger guard could be glued with some JB weld
-The cord is easy to replace

if you buy an use drill or grinder you could open the gearing and see if there are any metal shavings or dirt inside and clean and re-grease it.

>> No.1312461

>>1312455
anything made by man can be fixed by man
but an older drill with a 1/4 chuck? just get a new one from Harbor Freight or Amazon for $14 and its got to be as good as the thing with a 1/4 chuck

>> No.1312467

m'kita because it's the only brand not owned by a chinese megacorp yet

>> No.1312514

>>1311469

>but I guarantee you because of convenience my battery saw gets like 5x the use of anyones gas saw.

Maybe if you are comparing yourself to people who don't need to use their saws often.

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just bought a Milwaukee M12 Rotary Tool to finally replace my old corded off-brand Dremel. it will go well with my other M12 tools and the collet locking pin thing on my old rotary tool is crap so ill finally be able to replace bits without fighting with it.

>> No.1312535

Weekend Warrior here. I want to get a better drill but I dont know how to take care of a battery that doesnt get regular use. My last battery got hot if I left it plugged in for days, but if I left it unplugged it just lost charge and now it barely holds a charge after 1-2 years. What am I supposed to do to not fuck up if I buy a better drill?

Not sure on the previous voltage or battery type, it was a Hyper Tough drill (the Walmart brand). I would definitely pay more attention when making a bigger purchase

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>>1312535
that was probobly a shit quality drill with Ni-CD batteries, which are known for having those issues when left sitting around.

newer Li-Ion batteries are much better about holding their charge over extended periods of non-use and their chargers are usually smart enough to turn off when the battery is fully charged. a good quality lithium battery has a shelf life of 10 years so sitting around for long periods shouldnt kill it.

for extended periods of non-use (several months), its recommended that you drain the batteries down between 1/3 and 1/2 charge and leave them off the charger in a cool, dry place. ive heard of some people leaving them in refrigerators but that seems a little extreme. cold temperatures reduce the charge on batteries but wont cause any damage the same way high temperatures will.

also you should not store batteries that are completely dead, most batteries maintain a minimum charge even when your tool doesnt run anymore; if it is dead then you dont use it for a couple months the charge will drop to the point that the charger doesnt recognize the battery at all and its just a chunk of dead lithium. some people have found ways to "jump start" a dead battery with a fully charged battery with the same voltage like you would with a car. this is one of those things that either works or causes the battery to explode, so be sure to do it outside.

>> No.1312551

My father in law knew i needed a drill so he bought me a porter cable hunk of shit for christmas. What am i supposed to do with this thing. What if he comes over and wants to build something and sees me using something else?

>> No.1312552

>>1312546
Screenshotting this, thank you very much Anon

>> No.1312553

>>1311888
okay maybe 1/5 torque. It was nice and light though.
>>1312514
thats true, I should have said "most people's gas saws"
>>1312535
>>1312546
quite true, don't store it dead and don't keep it in the charger. Li-ion should be good for 3-500 charge cycles.

>> No.1312570

>>1312546
a dead lithium cell can be revived with a bench supply and a couple hours supervision.
Problem is, it will never be like it was before and some "intelligent" batterypacks prevent you from doing it for "safety reasons"

>> No.1314351

ive been doing repairs around the house for past 5 years. My dad works in the trades.

Honest pretty much 90% of all tools are made by the same company,

If you dont have many tools, Its better to have the right tool for the job rather then few tools that are expensive.
After you have working at the job awhile you will know what tool you use the most, and then you can invest in more expensive tools.

>> No.1315427

>>1311415
check this guys channel out: https://www.youtube.com/user/arduinoversusevil he does amazing reviews of tools.. depending on how much money you can spend you could something like Fein, Makita or Hilti if you are a professional / semi professional user

>> No.1315975

>>1312570
>>>1312546
>a dead lithium cell can be revived with a bench supply and a couple hours supervision.

Confirmed. I've "fixed" many Li-Po packs for local RC pilots by putting them on a bench supply at 100mA constant current for a few hours. When the voltage gets up to 3.6V/cell then you can use a real battery charger to charge them.

When I mentioned this at my RC club meeting the guys brought in a stack of them.