/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1259779
Sometimes the faucet has connections up inside the body. "normally" you run flex down and connect to the hard line. But some just drop in line which makes it a bitch to repair. Hopefully you have shutoffs and can disconnect the lines there. Once done just undo the holddowns and lift the fixture off.

>>1259779
>Who the fuck does something like this?
amateurs and mobile home builders

>>1259784
>Hopefully you have shutoffs and can disconnect the lines there.

There are no shutoffs. This is a fucking $900,000 house, and there are no shutoffs.

>>1259786
>$900,000 house
>>1259786
>mobile home plumbing

>>1259787
sheesh.. Quite a few places that's code now and something that should have been noted on any home inspection.
Time to turn off the main and install some shutoff valves.
I didn't have them in my home, but then again it was built in the 60's. Remodeled and now every fixture has them, makes it easy when having to replace a leaky faucet or toilet valve.

>>1259787
stamped metal sink
particle board cabinetry
no stops (shut-offs)
improper/not to code installation
~million dollar house
something doesn't add up here

>>1259793
It was a $450,000 house when it was first built 15 years ago.

>>1259798
Ah
>flippers
bane of the housing world.

>>1259787
Im an amatuer plumber and have installed stops, its not that hard

>>1259803
>Im an amatuer plumber

This is misleading. Im not a plumber in any sense and installed them.

I've been in a few million plus dollar houses helping a friend do camera and security systems. While they look pretty from the outside, the craftsmanship was utter crap. Homeowner: "Anon, they used all hardwood trim so be careful!".... hardwood trim my ass... try laminated particle board with a bit of real wood on the ends to cover the shit.

Way back I was on a crew, mostly framing but got suckered into roofing. There are quality companies out there but those are far outdone by the slipshod make-a-paycheck ones.

>>1259803
>>1259804
This is what the supply lines to the faucet look like.

Do I cut the flexible copper pipes (with some sort of special tool?), install stop valves, then connect new supply line to the stop valve and to the faucet?

I thought replacing the leaky faucet was going to be a $100 project, but now I'm looking at $250 minimum.

>>1259807
>"Anon, they used all hardwood trim so be careful!"
Hey, your hardwood trim has a foam core!

>>1259811
>File: IMG_20171013_163152.jpg
ABS drain? You sure this isn't a mobile home??
turn of the water supply to the house
try to drain the lines using an outside faucet
cut off the 1/2" hard copper line just below the adapter
install a 1/2" to 3/8" straight compression stop
(easy mode use a sharkbite instead of compression)
(bonus points for using 1/4 turn stop)
make sure stop is OFF
turn water on to check for leaks
no leaks, continue the changing the faucet

make sure hard copper line is clean and round where stop will be installed.

>>1259817
>You sure this isn't a mobile home??
I wish.

Thanks for the detailed instruction, anon.

>>1259817
wrong pic - should have been...

>>1259811
You use a pipe cutter like pic related, they sell them for 10$ or less in the plumbing isle

>cut copper
>clean the fuck out of the copper
>install 1/4 turn compression shutoffs

>connect the faucet to the shutoffs
>the new faucet will either have PEX which goes directly to your new shutoffs, or you will have to buy felxible supply lines to connect the faucet to the shutoffs

>>1259819
>>1259817
Do I need to torch solder these on, or is plumbing tape enough?

>>1259821
They are compression fittings, follow the instructions. You slip a ring on the pipe and tighten it the fuck down and it keeps it sealed tight

>>1259822
thx

>>1259821
the compression is installed with two wrenches
the sharkbite just slips on the pipe and O rings do the sealing
(teeth inside keep it from coming off - sharkbite)

>>1259820
If there isn't room for this to rotate get pic related
it works everywhere

>>1259826
thanks anon

>>1259827
np - I can tell from the rest of the thread you don't have a lot of experience with this.
I suggested compression fitting because you don't need to solder/sweat it for installation and it's inexpensive.
Since the thread progressed I'd recommend you go with the SharkBite instead.
It' more expensive but much easier to install.
Just cut the pipe square without damaging it and clean it off.
Push the stop over the clean end until it 'seats' and that part is done.
1/4 turn stops seem to be less prone to leaking around the handle and are easier to operate.
(no multiple turning of the handle)
Again, a little more expensive but worth it.
In my area a four pack is <$35 - a decent price and a couple to spare for the next sink.
If you're not going to do this again just get the two you need for now.

>>1259829
Thanks again.

I checked other sinks, and all 5 sink faucets in the house don't have stop valves. I think I will install shark teeth valves on them though (when the rest eventually break) as torching pipes without removing the wood cabinetry first seems risky (especially for a noob like me).

>>1259787
I just bought a house for 73k and my bathroom sink has shutoffs.

>>1259842
>I checked other sinks, and all 5 sink faucets in the house don't have stop valves
I cannot imagine that no shutoffs for each fixture would be up to code

harder to believe that any plumber would be that retarded

>>1259789
do you always do your best work on the things you don't own? maybe you do, but most people don't. ...0 pride.

>>1259811
lmao. faucets cost more than $100 alone. unless you buy garbage. then just tape it on so it will be easier to replace when it fails before the tape

>>1260015
I rented a nice brick house where the original owner was the builder, was a mason so it has stone inside everywhere too. Big custom fireplace up and downstairs. Built in the 60s

No shutoffs anywhere in the house, the original plumbing was going bad.Faucets all needed work, basement got flooded from a failed pipe.

Was really bad

>>1260325
What's a good faucet then? Some $500 Restoration Hardware anodized copper monstrosity?

>>1260325
Diminishing returns
Most new faucets use PEX line, most new faucets are all plastic, most new faucets have low GPM

Every brand, to meet EPA guidelines.

Walk into lowes, buy a $75 moen or delta and its going to functionwise and feel wise be identical to their $200 ones, it just will look different.

You want metal with a high GPM?
Buy a new old stock faucet from over a decade ago. Nobody realizes it because you dont change faucets all the time, but the EPA guidelines have slowly been creeping in for years.

>>1260424
Just go buy a centerset faucet in the $50-80 range that you think looks nice in your bathroom.

The highest legal GPM right now is 2.2gpm in most states, though some its even lower.

Stay away from "eco" or "watersense" as they are gallon per minute restricted to 1.2gpm or lower. Really bad flow, youll hate it

>>1259787
that's what you get for buying in santa Barbara, the place was built by spics for nothing.

>>1259826
I found these suck and are ridiculous unless you turn the thumb wheel with a pliers

>>1260447
I use them daily and don't need pliers.

>>1260447
Make smaller cuts, get better cutting wheels.
I have never had an issue with them either

>>1260481
I think it's a function of buying the cheap home depot brand ones. It's like the threads backlash and won't hold the wheel tight enough to cut unless I really crank it. I will be sitting there spinning it around the pipe for minutes. If I get some pliers I can just go around it four or five times like I can with the bigger cutter.

>>1259826
I redid all the copper plumbing in my house with this SoB, he's a real trooper.

>>1260537
You should have sprang for the one where there wheel isn't a perfect circle, that one is a piece of shit. The one where the wheel is like a diamond with rounded corners, that one's a beast. The difference isn't even $10, I've owned both and there's a noticeable difference in quality and ease of use. Ridgid plumbing stuff is pretty legit, we use their pipe wrenches and threaders in an industrial environment and they've never failed us.

>>1260447
You only give the wheel a little turn between spins. Trying to bite off too much in one go makes them a bitch to use.

The "autocutter" type, using a spring to push the blade against the pipe and a pair of bearings on the opposite side, in a C shape. You put it on the pipe through the gap then just spin the whole thing til the pipe is cut. It keeps constant tension on blade and cuts pipe quickly without leaving any indents like when you tighten a regular cutter too much.
-Even the home depot branded ones Pic Related
I have had lots of luck with them! I thought they were a gimmick, but cheap enough to give it a try, and the fuckers are miracles!
>very rarely they leave a ridge on the pipe and you have to use sandcloth or outside reamers

Especially great when working on pipe in tight spots in walls, or where the main line comes in and branches before going down in a slab foundation.

If you have never tried them, give them a shot.
>Even the low end ones like home depot branded cut quickly in a few turns with a good blade.
If you aren't a plumber, but need to do more than a couple of things around the house, they are worth it. I'm just an journeyman but introduced them to my boss, master plumber for 40 years, and even he thinks they are great, been using them for a couple of years now.

>>1260716
Autocutters are godly, but only if you have one that fits the pipe you want to cut.