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>Occam's razor isn't about the simplest explanation, but rather the explanation that requires the least assumptions
>In other words, whichever set of rules requires the least number of exceptions to those rules.
so still no quantity. Which also does not imply "God" if that's what you think I mean.

>You're taking it as a language, and not a more fundamental existence.
No, it is literally a language. Stop pretending it isn't when it literally cannot be anything else but.

>but they'll put the same numbers in and they'll get the same numbers out.
Well that's an assumption you're making, for al we know the aliens you speak of have evolved past chasing shadows.

>might as well be a meaningless question, at least as far as physics is concerned.
I understand that, because the basis of physics is that the world is driven by that which is physical and phenomena. Even though it isn't.

>It's the job of philosophers to answer that, because it boils down to "why is there something and not nothing" or "why are we here to observe this". Newton's flaming laser sword applies.
Exactly. You have to keep experimenting because there is no actual standard of measure present to dictate the answers you seek other than the ones you arbitrarily set. An absence really is not worth debating, neither is the experiments involving it.

>But scientists stick to these assumptions because questioning them wouldn't lead them anywhere but the realm of philosophy.
Which means the paychecks stop coming in.

>Lazer sword!11!
An idea older than Parmenides himself.

>And by sticking to these assumptions we've used our theories to time and time again produce real results. Like the discovery of the Higgs particle, the invention of the laser, the discovery of Neptune.
In the same argument you say that something can be an assumption and something that exists. Illogical. Lasers don't work without a medium by the way. And I also believe Neptune was discovered with a telescope by Galileo.

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