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>>4457397
You mean I can't pilot my car into people? lol

>>4457361
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10 fucking seconds on google and you would no the difference

>>4457346
Because a gun fits in my pocket where a car does not.

So I take it you've never seen videos of cars running over masses of people? An AR-15 falls short of the carnage you can cause by driving a car at high speeds in to a compact group of people. Are you denying this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnR2ysyaoH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYWt7vlz2E

>>4457304
No not really. Your more likely to run over your kid backing the car out of the driveway then have a safety accident with a gun. My family practices gun safety, and guns have been in my family history for three generations since WW2. Not a single fucking accident with our guns, and my dad has actually used them to stop crimes, along with one of my uncles.

Made the point because liberals give guns human characteristics. And actually you can kill more people and quicker with a car then a gun, you don't have to reload when you drive over a family.

>>4457256
wow...you think suicides should count as homicides? i don't even

>>4457249
Neither does your gun. It's an inanimate object. Unless you decide to use it to hurt others, just as you could with a car or knife.

Just because you do not value your guns for self-defense does not mean other people can't use guns for self-defense or that there is no need for carrying a gun for self defense. Thats the dumbest shit i've heard.

>>4457236
Actually more then half of that number is suicides, and you are implying they are all homicides

>>4457185
Do you own health insurance, home insurance or any kind of insurance? Just because you haven't had to use your insurance policy yet, doesn't mean you throw away the policy and stop using it because you haven't had to use it yet? A firearm is the same principle.

I respect your decision to not own guns, I only ask you respect our decision to own them.

>>4457172
>streets of US are exactly like Afganistan

In chicago they are. Home of the strictest gun control measures they still manage to outpace the death toll in Afghanistan.

>>4457123
Way to completely avoid everything I typed and jump to vast assumptions. It seems like thats all you liberals are able to do.

>>4457061
>pussy
lol this argument.

Sorry im taking zero chances when my life or my loved ones life is on the line. Self-defense is not about fighting honorably or matching their force, its about self preservation. If someone comes at me with an AK, Im gonna want an AK. IF someone comes at me with a handgun Im gonna want an AK. If someone comes at me with a knife im still gonna want a fucking AK.

Self-defense is not pretty. Life is not the movies.

>>4457061
Haha and you know my life and my dad's life? We grew up in Stockton, one of the worst cities in the nation arguably. Crimes occur there more then good deeds daily, that place has progressively gotten worse over the years. Its a hellhole. My dad worked for a community center back in the 90's and stopped more then one assault(s) with his pistol, once without even having to use it.

The evidence absolutely shows that guns stop more crimes then they solve. Thinking that showing a gun leads to an escalation of violence is a huge misnomer. Also thinking that your gun will get taken away and used against you is another misnomer, and evidence is just not supporting these assumptions.

There is no way to know exactly how many crimes gun stop daily because often they stop the crime on the spot and it never gets reported. Also the media down plays these stories.

>>4457030
So because I personally haven't stopped a crime with my gun (my dad has) that means that no one else has either and the estimated 6,500 crimes stopped daily with guns do not exist?

>>4456999
And you will likely never hear that story on national news.

>>4456998
Juarez also has stricter gun control then Chicago even, go figure. NYC plummeting crime rate can be attributed to heavy punishment for any offenses. They started to really heavily enforce existing laws and keep people locked up.

>>4456966
An armed society is a polite society.

Why are mass killings not committed at gun shows, and instead at schools with gun free zones? I thought gun free zones meant no one could bring a gun there!

>>4456950
great citation there your side is truly flawless

>>4456933
If I could sneak in a semi truck with crates of nuggets, ammo, and body armor I would in a fucking heartbeat.

>>4456927
Houston doesn't have lower Economic neighborhoods?

Can you connect the dots that gun control hurts the poor the worse and actually increases crime?

>>4456920
nice opinion. Can you try to argue with facts and logic though?

>>4456773
nice use of ad hominem and stereotyping

>>4456900
Then why does Houston Texas, with lax gun laws but a huge city in the south have way less murders then Chicago with extreme gun control laws up in the North?

>>4456882
Also, the department of justice, and the CDC confirmed that the Assault Weapon Ban had none, or next to zero positive effect on lowering crime.

There is no way we can have an honest debate about guns.

Most anti-gunners view guns as inherently evil mass murder death killing assault rape machines with no legitimate purpose.

When someone adopts this mindset, there is no arguing with them. Their mind is already made up.