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9914806 No.9914806 [Reply] [Original]

Why don't Americans use real garlic in cooking but disgusting powder?

>> No.9914885

There is really no excuse for this. Garlic keeps a long time

>> No.9914891

>>9914806
we grow garlic and dehydrate the scapes in spring and all of the bulbs that are damaged during harvest and won't keep, it makes a really great garlic powder, lasts forever

>> No.9914892

Because fresh garlic and garlic powder have different flavors and different uses.

>> No.9914923

>>9914806
because they are disgusting and fat and have zero culinary culture and tradition apart from fatness

>> No.9914924

I watch so many food videos on youtube. They all use garlic powder.

I don't even think we have that here on the Germany.

>> No.9914935

Yeah, let me just use whole, bulky garlic chunks when I’m making a rub or sauce.

>> No.9914940

>>9914935
You don't have knives in America?

>> No.9914946

>>9914935
Next time use crushed fresh cloves. Your sauce will appreciate it.

>> No.9914956

>>9914892
This

Garlic powder is generally used in dry rubs for BBQ or smoking, which is a big part of cuisine in most places in the US. Also to impart a garlic flavor in pizza dough and etc.

That's basically the only real use for it. But since most people are lazy and can't be bothered to peal and chop garlic they just use powder. And that's not exclusive to the US, my aunt in the UK and cousin in Holland do the same thing and it triggers me when they say "well you can't taste the difference".

Basically garlic powder has it's legitimate uses but overall it's used because people are lazy.

>> No.9914962

Garlic powder doesn't burn as easily as fresh one.
I use it when i need to sear.

>> No.9914967

>>9914962
In oil it burns quicker, it just doesn't get as much of a bitter taste

>> No.9915008

We primarily use fresh garlic. Garlic powder has it's uses, so we use that too for certain things (spice mixes). Fuck granulated garlic, though, and fuck big tubs of prepeeled cloves; those are both worthless.

>> No.9915017

>>9914806
But we do? Where are you getting this information from?

>> No.9915022
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9915022

Garlic powder is fine but this fucking shit is just insane

>> No.9915024

>>9915022
Actually, I could see the use of this if you were going to be using vinegar in the recipe anyway.

>> No.9915033

>>9915022
>>9915008
Yeah, garlic salt is garbage, and minced garlic just tastes like shit compared to mincing garlic yourself.

>>9914940
And nigger you know what I meant. Depending on the sauce, even extremely minced garlic is too chunky. I don’t want to settle on texture just to impress you faggots. Garlic powder is completely different than using fresh garlic. That’s like asking “why use ketchup on meatloaf when you can use fresh tomato slices?”

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>>9914806
>why do americans do x
we're lazy motherfucker and don't care what you think

>> No.9915038

>>9915037
That is not what China looks like.

>> No.9915055

Would garlic oil work just as well in marinades and rubs? I'm wondering why it's not as ubiquitous as garlic powder.

>> No.9915056
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9915056

>>9915038
>He doesn't recognise the Asian continent when he sees it.

>> No.9915057

>>9915056
Have mercy on my sides, kind sir.

>> No.9915093

>>9915056
>He doesn't know where the Ural Mountains are.

>> No.9915321

>>9914806
cost
I keep both. I unironically prefer garlic powder to diced because it lets me keep my steaks low-sodium and well-sealed. Diced is better for everything else but why use it to better a frozen pizza for instance? Just sprinkle some cost-efficient, still real powder dumb dumb.

>> No.9915341

>>9914940
we do. we just use guns instead.

>> No.9915346

>>9915341
so, guns are the new chopsticks
might as well call guns 'clapsticks'

>> No.9915349

>>9914806


But I always use fresh garlic, just by a garlic mincer.

>> No.9915407
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9915407

>use garlic powder in fried chicken recipe
>receive michelin star
>charge 5 bucks per piece of chicken.

>> No.9915410

>>9915407
>implying you know the actual recipe

>> No.9915411

>>9915407
Do Americans really take their dining tips from car repair shops?

>> No.9915415

>>9915411
Do Americans really not know how to bait?

>> No.9915419

>>9915410
>American family style fare
>not using garlic powder

>> No.9915425
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9915425

>hey havent been on 4chan in some time
>i wonder what /ck/ is like these days
>phs guy, progun, etc
>or is it just gonna still be crybaby yurocucks crying about the US
yup. its crybaby yurocucks. See you in another 4 years. keep crying I guess.
pic related, its an actual picture of an average ck poster

>> No.9915849

>>9914892
This, I use both frequently.

>> No.9915879

>Not using Garlic Salt on pizza

u a gay?

>> No.9915897

>>9914806
Because they are lazy as fuck.

>> No.9915927

>>9915425
>See you in another 4 years
why, are you recovering from a gunshot wound again?

>> No.9915931

Americans are scared of fresh ingredients.

>> No.9915956

Americans love fresh ingredients.

>> No.9915957

>>9914806
>>9914885
i use both. depends if i want chunks of it or just the flavor, or if im lazy.

>> No.9915978

Who comes up with all these stupid rumors? Foreigners are weird people.

>> No.9915984

>>9915978
found the American lads LOL

>> No.9915988

>>9915956
Not really. Most of them don't even know how to cook. And for the ones that do, cooking is considered pouring a jar of pre-made pasta sauce into a pot and heating it up.

>> No.9915994

>>9915988
stfu you stupid fat american don't ever reply to me again

>> No.9916002

Americans love fresh ingredients.

>> No.9916003

>>9915994
Triggered

>> No.9916005

>>9914806
>be American
>use garlic powder
>use onion powder
>use chili powder
>use celery powder
they really are just mindless cattle waiting for their flavored slop. if they had to eat real vegetables, they might lose some weight.

>> No.9916021

>>9916003
Triggered

>> No.9916041

>>9916021
Oh no, it has brain damage :(

>> No.9916046

>>9916041
fuck you stupid american pig fuck shart idiot bitch

>> No.9916098

>>9915956
Do many Westerners know how to cook in general? When I lived in England it was the same deal, most people don't really know how to make anything beyond a few basic dishes like pasta with tuna and sweetcorn(?)

>> No.9916109

>>9916098
>pasta with tuna
wh*Te people are vile

>> No.9916112

>>9916098
No. No they do not know how to cook. Especially millennials. The average American boomer knows how to make something like unseasoned roasted meat or some sort of Frankenstein casserole. Millenials cook eggs, toast, and pasta dishes. They buy precooked meat.

Where are you from?

>> No.9916122

>>9916098
Most don't.

>> No.9916124

>>9916112
Indonesia.

>> No.9916134

>>9915956
You are god damn right. Subway is awesome.

>> No.9916151

>>9916109
even so, white people run the world while brown people kill each other or starve.

>> No.9916167

It's cheaper than buying fresh garlic all the time.

Also, it doesn't spoil

>> No.9916174

>>9916167
>It's cheaper
Literally the opposite.

>> No.9916783

>>9916112
> Millenials cook eggs, toast, and pasta dishes.
From what I've seen, more millenials have an interest in cooking than previous generations. Not all or even many, but some of them.
>Where are you from?
USA

>> No.9916893

>>9914806
What country are you from where obsessing over Americans is the national pass time?

>> No.9916895

>>9916893
OP is clearly a whiny American flyover faggot child butthurt that his parents are shit at cooking.

>> No.9916928
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>>9916112

You're generalizing. I'm a millennial albeit not from the USA but I've been cooking since I was 13. I cook fish, soups, various egg based dishes (quiche/frittata, etc) and lots of other things. I'm experimenting with baking bread now. American Boomers are useless cunts who grew up in the golden age of microwaveable meals. They had all the opportunity and squandered it and now they have gone from cocaine to rogaine (thanks Carlin). Fuck boomers.

>> No.9917097

>>9914806
I use both and so does everyone I know who cooks. They serve different purposes.

>> No.9917199

>>9915346
>>9914962
*claps*

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>>9914806
https://www.gordonramsayrestaurants.com/recipes/truffle-short-rib-doughnuts/
>10g garlic powder
>do Americans really

>> No.9917289

>>9916928
when someone asks do _ really _, they usually want a generalization retard

>> No.9917481

>>9916928
>I'm a millennial

Stopped reading right there.

>> No.9917503

>>9917481

I work hard everyday to make sure anonymous grown men on the internet who are over the age of 30 read all my posts so I feel pretty hurt you won't read the stuff I posted!

>> No.9917509

>>9914892
Shut up. Stop using logic to explain things.

>> No.9917539

>>9914956

>That's basically the only real use for it.

I use it (and onion powder) in meatloaf or other dishes where even minced it messes up the texture.

>> No.9917540

>>9914806
well they do have different purposes.... I always opt for real garlic when making sauce and stuff, but ill use the powdwe if I'm making something like refried beans, the flavor is legit better for that. Also more Consistent. I'd rather have someone use the powder if they don't know how to cook garlic in a specific way for a specific flavor.

>> No.9917676

>>9915055
Garlic oil wouldn't work with either. It would seperate from a marinade, and it wouldn't absorb in a rub.

>> No.9919814

Better question: why don't westerners know you can grate garlic? It solves >>9917540 's consistency problem.

>> No.9920020

>>9914924
You can get it in Asian supermarkets, it's also pretty commonly used in Indian cuisine.

>> No.9922044

I really dont see why it matters. Its just dehydrated garlic that's rehydrated when you cook with it. What do you all have against dried foods?

>> No.9922827

Wtf americans are insane. I bet they dont even realize that real garlic exists..

>> No.9922841

>>9917539
>minced onion ruins meatloaf
what

>> No.9922855

>>9915419
>Thomas Keller using garlic powder
>Implying it's not dehydrated in house using some arcane, elaborate process
Anon don't know about tricks

>> No.9924145

>>9914806
A good question, I fucking hate the goddamn powder as an American yet everyone uses it. It just taste way too salty and not like garlic. I never use that trash.

>> No.9924177

>>9915419
>American family style fare
Hot dogs and ketchup?

>> No.9924218

i use minced garlic because my parents bought me a big fat fucking tub of it when i moved out 2 years ago and I'm not even halfway through it. It barely adds flavor to anything but I don't know if that's my fault. I believe I saute it correctly. Should I just throw it out? Is fresh that much better?

>> No.9924262

>>9924218
>Is fresh that much better?
Yes.

>> No.9924292

>>9915008
>and fuck big tubs of prepeeled cloves
>worthless

wat

>> No.9924328

>>9915407
ad hoc doesnt have a michelin star

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>>9914806

>> No.9924984

>>9922841
Moisture. Onions release a ton of moisture when cooked.

>> No.9925464

>>9915022
This stuff sucks holy shit. Tastes like nothing

>> No.9925552
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9925552

https://youtu.be/VcslHiyOqy0

Americunt Here born and Raised

I use both depends on the dish. I use Garlic Salt tho not powder.

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>>9914923
>>>9914806 (OP)
>because they are disgusting and fat and have zero culinary culture and tradition apart from fatness

Are you French? I seem to get a Monty Python feel about your comment... are you taunting or just plain gay?

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>>9925600
I was almost taunted, but im sure hes gay. Prolly obesely overweight to. Prolly mostly upset he is obese and doesnt live in Murica

>> No.9925796

american here
laziness and lack of knowledge and cost

>> No.9925847

When I was growing up in the midwest grocery stores didn't even carry fresh garlic so my mom always used powdered. I first saw fresh garlic when I went to uni.

>> No.9925866

>>9914806
Because I cant use a clove of garlic if I want to make a fucking dry rub you dumbass.

>> No.9925917

>>9925866
Wrong. Use a fine cheese grater.

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9926020

>>9915927

>> No.9926025

>>9925917
>moisture content in a dry run

>> No.9926064

>>9924145
>salty

Sounds like garlic salt. Garlic powder shouldn't have any salt, it should literally be only dried, ground garlic.

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9926131

What's "but disgusting powder" and how can garlic make it better?

>> No.9926265

>>9915425
People are just joking, autismo. Most of the time it is actual Americans saying, "Do Americans really do / eat X?"

>> No.9926270

I use real garlic.

>> No.9926388

>>9914891
This is what I do.

>> No.9927091

But we do use garlic

>> No.9927099

>>9914806
its a pain in the ass to mince a vegetable every fucking time you want to season something.

>> No.9927104

>>9926265
>Most of the time it is actual Americans saying, "Do Americans really do / eat X?"
do americans ACTUALLY do this?

>> No.9927112

>>9914885
I tried keeping crushed garlic once it turned green and slimey

>> No.9927139

>>9927099
Are you fucking five? If its such a chore use a grater.

>> No.9927146

>>9927099
It really is, I bought chopped frozen for the first time today, and haven't used it yet. Ever thought about getting some? Best of both worlds I'd say.

>> No.9927164

>>9914806
>>9914923
I'm an american and I use real garlic you broad brush pricks.

>> No.9927176

>>9916005
>implying spices have any significant caloric intake

>> No.9927181

>>9927139
no, unlike you I have a full time job, wife and kid and yes, even a hobby or two.

>> No.9927188

>>9915056
>asia is just a bigger usa

And they say everything is bigger in america.

>> No.9927712

>>9924984
Breadcrumbs exist for a reason

>> No.9927873

>>9915033
Why is garlic salt garbage? It tastes good desu

>> No.9928271

>>9924984
yeah i hate when my meatloaf has moisture

>> No.9929411
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>>9927181
then what are you doing on a malaysian competitive dog grooming forum?

>> No.9929529

>>9924984
Ya, it release moisture, and it also has cellulose fibers which bind and add cohesion. You add breadcrumbs to soak up the moisture, so it doesn't all leach out and you have dry meatloaf.

>> No.9929859

>>9914885
Powdered garlic is just easier to work with when applying it directly to meats.

Personally I try to use real garlic every time I have a need for it, but if I'm making burgers I keep some garlic salt on hand just so I don't have to waste time peeling, pressing, and chopping garlic. It makes cooking time half what it actually needs to be.

>> No.9930784

>>9917481
Die boomer fucking shit

>> No.9931995

>>9914935
>he's forgotten knives exist

>> No.9932004

>>9931995
you can also just mash the garlic. I mix it up with the salt for a lot of shit to break it down smaller.

>> No.9932018

>>9914806
it's a jewish thing

>> No.9932025

>>9914806
not true, i just minced a bunch of garlic just 10 minutes ago. i swear to god, my fingers smell just like your fat italian moms poo-see

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9932057

Whenever I make gravy for poutine or mashed potatoes the original recipe calls for grated garlic, but I've found powder tastes 10x better in the finished product. I guess it all depends on what you use it in

>> No.9932076
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>>9914806
Because cutting garlic is exhausting

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9932137

I personally use garlic paste that comes out of a squeeze tube like pic related, easy to use, no mess, tastes just as good.

>> No.9932172

>>9932137
neck yourself

>> No.9932228

>>9932172
no u
and drink chlorine before committing hara kiri, u subhuman degenerate

>> No.9932244

>>9932228
>degenerate

I'm not the one drinking garlic paste straight from the tube bucko

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>>9932137
I usually just crush the skin on cloves with the back of the knife, pull the paper off in one piece, and slide the spine of my knife over the pieces I've minced if I require finer. It's quicker than it sounds.

>> No.9932464

We use real garlic. We just also have powdered garlic because we can afford it.

>> No.9932478

>>9932004
Thanks for the tip

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>>9914923
That's not very nice... I didn't do anything to you...

>> No.9932653

>>9932464
>because we can afford it
>I celebrate paying more for an inferior product in the land of corporate rampage.

>> No.9932688

>>9914806
I'm an American and only use real, whole garlic cloves. Checkmate.

>> No.9932724

>>9932653
Yeah, why not? Powdered garlic has its applications.

>> No.9932897

>>9914923
t. the third worlder

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9933000

unironically the best unitasker on the market

>> No.9933034

I use a garlic press. You can put a clove in with the peel and only minced garlic comes out. Shit is cash.

>> No.9933136

>>9927712
>>9929529

>using breadcrumbs in meatloaf

This is noob tier. Use rolled oats or potato flakes.

>> No.9933304

>>9930784

This honestly. Boomers are the worst generation in human history. Can't wait until they all retire and fucking die off.

>> No.9933330

>>9933304

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/032216/are-we-baby-boomer-retirement-crisis.asp


>According to the study, 24% of Baby Boomers have no retirement savings – the lowest number since the study started in 2011. Only 55% of Baby Boomers have some retirement savings and, of those, 42% have less than $100,000. Thus, approximately half of retirees are, or will be, living off of their Social Security benefits.

The original parasite generation. Had everything handed to them on a silver platter, enjoyed it, squandered it and now when younger generations struggle they blame them for not having "work ethic" or being "entitled" or "lazy". Fuck the boomers.

>> No.9933346

Why does everybody smash their garlic and shit? It takes like 3 seconds to peel half a head

>> No.9933384

>>9933346

Mainly to release the essential oils inside and get more flavour out of it.

>> No.9933405

>>9933384
You get that when you damage the garlic cells, which should be happening when you cook it and slice it so it goes straight into the dish, not when you smash it on your counter and cause it to release all that garlicy goodness into the air

>> No.9933545

>>9933405

Wrong. Jacques Pepin said you crush it to release the essential oils.

>> No.9933600

>>9914962
wala

>> No.9933612

>>9933545
>Wrong
No, factually accurate.
Pepin is also factually accurate, but he's release all the oils into fucking nothing. You want that shit to get released in the pan or pot, not on your knife and cutting board.

>> No.9933621

>>9917539
>>9922841
What kind of bland. stale, and horrible meatloaf have you been making? Meatloaf without actual onion is not actual meatloaf.

>> No.9933720

>>9914806
I use both. I also have a jar of pre-minced garlic in the fridge. i don't really bother prepping fresh garlic unless I'm cooking for someone else.

Powder to coat things, pre-minced to add to whatever I'm cooking, and the real shit basically just to serve guests. I just don't care all that much.

>> No.9933737

>>9933612
Where the fuck did you read this momscience? >>9933384 is correct. Pepin aside, you'd actually get a better lesson watching the Good Eats episode about garlic. The smell and taste you get from garlic comes from a combination of molecules that only happens when cell walls are broken (via cutting or other methods). Whole garlic cloves will have a very mild taste, sliced garlic will be stronger, diced stronger still, smashing + dicing even more.

The oils don't immediately evaporate and you should be doing this process just before adding it to your food. Please stop spreading bullshit you heard off of mytopgarlictips.org or some mommyblog.

>> No.9934158

>>9914806
After slicing\chopping your hands will smell of it for a couple of days. That's the only reason i can think of other than time saving.

>> No.9934207

>>9934158
But garlic smells great.

>> No.9934213

>>9934207
If you're cooking or eating. Smelling of it for several days at work isn't great.

>> No.9934218

I use both. I don't know where you got the idea that no one here buys fresh garlic. They're only at every grocery store

>> No.9934233

>>9934158
In my experience the smell comes off your hands after one or two washings with soap and warm water.

>> No.9934650

Man my mother uses that god awful jarred garlic. Utterly revolting taste in anything ita added to.

>> No.9934691

>>9934213
yeah right, people are so intolerant. when is the right time to eat garlic? eat it mondays and you'll stink at work, eat it fridays and you'll stink at parties.

>> No.9935026

>>9914806
most americans are poorfags

>> No.9935049

>>9914946
Alternatively, depending how long the sauce is cooking down, the garlic can pretty much disintegrate in it. If you're using a stick blender, you don't even have to chop it up.

>> No.9935157

>>9934158
Do you not have any stainless steel in your kitchen to rub your hands on?

>> No.9935225

>>9914940
You are thinking of the UK.