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9840047 No.9840047 [Reply] [Original]

What place has the absolute worst food and why is it the UK?

>> No.9840054

>not obsessed

>> No.9840057

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE0VP0EZ0M&list=PLcNoGuHT7bHjgDib4-NmPZPI1ZowBUkKw

tl;dw the national palate was set back a thousand years by wartime rationing.

>> No.9840062

>>9840047
Well, there is always bread in Scandinavia, which is ALWAYS sweet and almost always with cumin and the only alternative is hardtack.

But entire cousine as a whole? Either English or NE bits of the US.

>> No.9840064

>>9840057
Anon, I come from post-commie nation and we don't have it even half as bad as Brits do, despite rationing being a thing for 3 generations. Mostly because people were creative about what they had, rather than eating bland shit.

>> No.9840082

I fucking ate 4 pounds of beans about 3 hours ago and I think I'm going to die .
Send help

>> No.9840083

>>9840057
tfw ywn hatefuck sue perkins

>> No.9840091

>>9840064
The British were too busy working to rebuild after the war. They didn't have time to spend inventing new dishes, commie.

>> No.9840094

>>9840047
t. sober

>> No.9840104

>>9840091
I'm a Pole. My country was turned into literal rubble, 1/3 of population was killed and we had border shift tha rivals that of Germany. Oh, and we had stalinist repressions until '56, while obviously not having Marshall money, and agriculture was collectivised. Also, no spice import aside pepper, since spices are a bourgeois extravaganza.
Wants to add something about "tough situation"?

>> No.9840107

Bong who used to live in the US and travelled all over the world here. I’m actually writing a book on what the fuck is wrong with modern Britain, and I feature heavily on food.

I can confirm that the UK has the most god awful food on the planet. It probably wouldn’t even be so bad if the ingredients themselves weren’t so goddamn terrible. Everything, whether it’s restaurant food or food at the supermarket tastes like pillow stuffing. Nothing has taste to it. Something is done, or rather not done, to food produced in the UK that robs it of any and all flavours.

Take the recent EU parliament vote on kebab meat preservatives. It got shot down because of British votes. There’s some sort of legislative and administrative culture here that all preservatives and additives = BAD. They completely neuter food in the raw ingredient state by not adding anything and it leads to poor quality products that lose nutrients and taste immediately because nothing is being done to the food to correct its lifespan. Somehow, they can sill slap a 100% British label on everything like that’s something to be proud of rather than a joke.

Even vegetables taste like nothing here. A carrot doesn’t taste like a carrot. I go to Ireland though, and it magically tastes like a carrot again. They must be using soil and fertiliser with added nutrition and additives removed from it, on top of the naturally not so great soil.

All of this is compounded by native Brits just typically having awfully bland palettes, and an inability to try new foods, or having to bastardise international cuisine to suit a bland, boring, British sensibility when it comes to food that completely robs a dish of its original flavours and quality.

>> No.9840115

>>9840107

this is pure bullshit, and i say this as a head chef who has run restaurants in both the UK and USA.

This is pure slander, british soil is some of the most fertile in the world due to the favourable weather conditions and nutrient content, there are many vibrant cuisines/dishes melded into the typical british diet

>> No.9840120

>>9840107
It always amazes me how Brits basically monopolised trade in certain spices... and their cousine remained unaffected. How?! How is that even possible?! No herb culture, so they don't use herbs for seasoning. No imported spices, despite controlling colonial empire responsible for third of world production of spices and literally nothing that is not salt and vinegar. Somehow not even using garlic, which is standard for all those cousines that avoid spices.

Also, adding vinegar to everything. I like sour food, but come on!

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>>9840115
>british soil is some of the most fertile in the world
Anon... I mean your entire post is full of crap, but this bit is so fucking desperate it's not even funny.

>> No.9840125

>>9840115
Poorfag here, been in the uk for under 3 months so idk about fancy restaurants, but I still can't find any proper ingredients to make good food anywhere, and the only places that are passable are Mediterranean food joints. But even when the patrons are from their respective place the food is not quite the same

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>>9840115
>british soil is some of the most fertile in the world
>due to the favourable weather conditions and nutrient content

>> No.9840138

>>9840123
>>9840125
>>9840134

denial is a sad thing to see, keep making these outdated stereotyped threads/posts, it only highlights your blatant ignorance.

>> No.9840139

>>9840115

And how do you equate using fertilisers with low or non existent nitrogen contents with the food quality? Most of the country doesn’t not have good soil and requires the use of fertiliser heavily.

The south may have good soil. Most places are not lucky enough to have their soil nutrients replenished by the Thames, Trent, and Avon river systems.

As a head chef in restaurants in the UK, you know for a fact that all produce and most dairy is locally sourced within a few miles of the vendor that the restaurant purchases from.

The rocky, depleted soil from the Midlands on north is produces poor quality crops, and poor quality grass for grazing in regards to livestock quality.

There is an undeniable change in taste between food outside of the UK and food produced within it.

>> No.9840143

>>9840139
>living in the midlands
shiggy dig

>> No.9840145

>>9840138
>Denial
Sorry, but I'm not the one who pretends British soils are "some of the most fertile in the world". It's like you know shit about agriculture and/or soils, but still decide to speak about it.

>> No.9840153

>>9840120

I’d wager it’s because of that monopoly and poor information within food sciences that advocated the erasure of additives from food that the UK has poor seasoning culture. With an access to spices comes the ability to mask how poor the base ingredients have become. Take away certain additives and flavours and tastes and you get terrible dishes with poor flavour profiles reliant on things like vinegar that a nationalistic and unwarranted proud culture can’t admit are bad because they don’t know anything else.

>> No.9840155

>>9840138
The only sad thing up here is Brits getting defensive about eating bland, often colourless crap.
Also, last time I've checked, most of British Isle soils was made up from acidic clays and loams. Aka one of the worst farmland and grazing area imaginable.

>> No.9840156

>>9840153
>With an access to spices comes the ability to mask how poor the base ingredients have become
But that assumes you use spices and seasoning.
British cousine doesn't. They just pour vinegar instead.

>> No.9840157

As an American I would devour a full english or full irish in seconds, that shit is so good and if you disagree you should consider cutting your tongue off and never eating again faggot.

>> No.9840162

>>9840143

Obviously shiggy diggy to living in the Midlands, it’s one of the poorest places in Europe, especially Staffordshire. Sadly, 11 million people live there, so it’s got a large agricultural presence.

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>>9840115
>british soil is some of the most fertile in the world due to the favourable weather conditions and nutrient content, there are many vibrant cuisines/dishes melded into the typical british diet

>> No.9840164

>>9840104
>polish food

There was nothing for you to recover in the first place.

>> No.9840165

>>9840157
How is that sprayed cheese works for your taste buds, mate?

>> No.9840166

>>9840156

That’s a bit of a generalisation. Vinegar does feature prominently, but there are plenty of dishes that call for things like mustard or horseradish, coriander, and things of that nature. Like I said though, things like that are masking how terrible the base ingredients are.

>> No.9840169

>>9840164
Oi m8 du u want sum toast sammies

>> No.9840171

>>9840165
>implying Ive ever eaten that crap

Sorry but im not a poorfag

>> No.9840178

>>9840164
Not even him, but let me guess - all you know is pierogi, right?
Go travel around, taste different things, then try being judgemental faggot. Then again, I'm glad they've told me what one of their soups is made from only after I ate it and complemtented the taste. I doubt anyone would eat that knowing what's inside the bowl.

>> No.9840183

>>9840166
Well, they all have strong taste. Which still makes me wonder why not just spice things up. I mean that's what spices are for.

>>9840171
Your cheese all taste the same - like eating wax. It's absolutely amazing how Americans, while producing so much milk and having relatively big dairy industry, are so bad at handling cheese.

>> No.9840184

>>9840047
Is this a meme? I live in Northern Ireland and I find I have great access to a wide variety of food.

I mean, I get that the single mothers eat nothing but fish finger sandwiches but its not like we get no food at all here.

My butchers know me pretty well and set aside all kinds of cool shit for me to try free of charge which has helped expand my horizons too.

Also live near some farms where you can go pick vegetables / fruit out of the ground and tree's which is always fun for the kiddos.

What is posted in OP is basically poor person food though which what can you really expect form them? Its like my short time in America where everyone at boxed food and readymade burgers and meals, but that only represents the ones who do not really care for food.

Also NI has some great fish holy shit catching and eating that shit feels so good. UK in general has so much water surrounding it that it seems a no brainer.

Beans on toast is something I have once a year like, and that one time is always really good / naughty feeling but like, I dunno I feel globally people eat quite shitty I think we are just getting lazier in general as a species.

>> No.9840189

>>9840178
>travel around and taste the myriad ways to prepare potato and wodka

No thanks friend we've already got the Irish for that

>> No.9840190

>>9840104
>no spice import aside pepper

that explains their "lol just chill and add more dill" attitude to spicing up their food.

>> No.9840191

>>9840183
>are so bad at handling cheese.
>like eating wax

Maybe come over here and actually try some of our cheeses? Our REAL cheeses? The stuff made in-state so it can be unpasteurized?

Wisconsin and Vermont cheeses are godly

>> No.9840192

>>9840184
OP said "UK", but what he really meant was "England"

>> No.9840193

>>9840120
Lol what are you on about? We use garlic all the fucking time. And spices are all over our historical cuisine: spiced meat pies, puddings with spices, etc.

>> No.9840194

>>9840178
What was the soup?

>> No.9840195

>>9840189
Thus you confirmed you know shit about their cousine. And the point was to travel around, not only to Poland. Apparently for you Wales already counts as "foreing country".

>> No.9840198

>>9840162
:( Tfw the only time I see the Midlands mentioned on the internet is someone slagging it off. We won the premier league a couple of seasons ago you know!

>> No.9840204

>>9840192
I'm from England and everything my IRA friend said applies here too

>> No.9840206

>>9840191
Anon, I've spend two years as contracted geo surveyor. At first I was sure it's just about buying cheap. Turns out the expensive cheese was just as bad, but costing five times more. Eventually the only dairy products I was still buying was milk.

>> No.9840207

Daily reminder the UK has the best restaurant in the world.

suck it nerds.

>> No.9840210

>>9840198
soz m8, it really is just england's warehouse

>> No.9840211

>>9840204
No it doesn't, Nigel.

>> No.9840213

>>9840206
>Turns out the expensive cheese was just as bad

See if you actually ate any GOOD cheese from here you'd know that's just not true. Any decent Vermont cheddar will blow most European shit out of the water.

Go to a farmers market, not a supermarket.

>> No.9840216

>>9840194
A stew made out of a selection of veggies, marjoram and thinly sliced tripe. Tastes great, thou.

>> No.9840217

>>9840206
The best cheeses here are still quite inexpensive. You got duped anon.

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>>9840213
>Any decent Vermont cheddar will blow most European shit out of the water.
The scary part is - you might actually believe this rather than trolling.

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>>9840213
>my pasteurized cheese product is world class

>> No.9840225

>>9840104
>while obviously not having Marshall money

No, you had the entire USSR.

>> No.9840226

>>9840219
>u trollin!!!

That's not an argument. Go find some fresh in-state, farmer-made cheese and get back to me.

I've tasted a wide selection of American and European cheeses and European cheese elitism is incredibly unfounded.

>> No.9840230

>>9840224
Americans make plenty of unpasteurized cheeses you moron, they just cant be exported out of their home states

Do your research before shitposting like a retard

>> No.9840234

>>9840190
No, that's a different thing. See, like pointed out in this thread, spices can cover the bad taste of things, especially when the dish is made hot this way. Thus you can cover for sub-par or outright rotten ingredients (the joys of rationing from collective farms), while it still tastes good. My grandmother was a cook for her entire life and even when things started to be normal, she was still making everything extra spicy out of habit.
Then again, once there was no problem with getting spices and fresh meat, a lot of pre-commie dishes returned, simply because it was now possible to make them without wondering from where the fuck you are going to get ginger or nutmeg other than the pre-grinded shit.

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>>9840230
>can’t be exported outside of its home state
How’s that freedom treating you, shartacus?

>> No.9840242

>>9840236
Pretty good, each state has quite a nice selection of fresh unpasteurized cheese if you know where to look, especially since there's always a market for it.

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>>9840224

>> No.9840246

>>9840245
Nice unfounded meme there buddy

>> No.9840248

>>9840230
>federal regulation prohibiting the movement of cheese
Fucking cuckolds.

>> No.9840250

>>9840225
>No, you had the entire USSR
... to feed.

First thing Soviets did upon "liberating" was loading everything that could be moved - including entire fucking factories and steel mills - on trains and sending it home. And the only trading partner that was left by '45 was Soviet Union, "buying" in exchange for post-war army surplus weapons. Sooooo damn useful for rebuilding the country or running any sort of economy, even planned one.
Seriously, how fucking dense or uneducated one must be to think there was some sort of Soviet version of Marshall Plan? We not only had to fend for ourselves, but also having Big Brother to apprehend. And this applies to all Eastern Block.

>> No.9840253

>>9840248
It's to support local cheesemaking industry, and it's worked quite well I'd say. Every state has a vibrant cheese culture.

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>>9840253
>Every state has a vibrant cheese culture.
Since when "none" means "vibrant"?
You wouldn't know good cheese even if it would hit you in the face

>> No.9840268

>>9840261
You can shitpost all you want but every state has unique, handmade, fresh, and delicious unpasteurized cheese.

Your ignorance of our cheese industries does not mean they dont exist.

https://livelyrun.com/from-the-farmer/encountering-american-culture-cheese-foreigner/

>> No.9840271

>>9840246
>meme
Retard.

>> No.9840274

>>9840271
Yes, it's very much a meme.

>> No.9840279

>>9840268
Yes anon, soooo much American cheese. And all those ignorant foreignres who are deep down just jelly about the top quality American dairy products...
Is that what American dream is?

>> No.9840283

>>9840279
Are you gonna keep shitposting or are you going to pose an actual argument?

I ate hundreds of variteites of European cheeses when I toured France, Italy, and Spain, and I can get just as good cheese here in America.

>> No.9840285

>>9840253
>to support local cheesemaking industry
By prohibiting sale of it?
What kind of fucked-up logic is that?

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>>9840283
... by importing it outside. Which is part of the reason why any decent cheese in States costs so much, since there is the protective tarrif on imported dairy and it has to pass quite harsh biological requirements solely to protect the abysmal American cheese from simply dying out as a thing.

Also
>Demands arguments
>Has none himself

>> No.9840292

>>9840285
Think about it anon

It means that each state needs a healthy unpasteurized cheese industry to meet local demand, and that's exactly what happened.

>> No.9840293

>>9840219
>Vermont cheddar
wtf
thats like saying a vermont milano salami

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9840294

>UK cousine thread
>Amerifats come in crying about their cheese
Like pottery

>> No.9840295

>>9840289
>... by importing it outside
No, completely and utterly wrong, are you really that ignorant?

>Has none himself
Lol read this

https://livelyrun.com/from-the-farmer/encountering-american-culture-cheese-foreigner/

For a look into just two cheeses found only in New York state, from the perspective of a born and bred French citizen no less.

>> No.9840296

>>9840293
Welcome to American cousine, where nothing makes sense and names are invented to make awful local stuff sound more "worldly".

>> No.9840300

>>9840293
milano salami is just a recipie, literally anyone could do it and get the same result.

>> No.9840306

>>9840296
You should really leave your backwater trailer park once in awhile, if you really are an "american" that is

>> No.9840307

You have to understand that British culture is parasitic. You go to an Indian restaurant in London, that's not Indian cuisine at all, it's the bastardised English version with chicken tikka masala(invented in Glasgow) and chicken korma and the vindaloo that you only order when drunk and then fucking Dimesh or whoever is behind the till gets that menacing look in his eye as he prepares to devastate your delicate little English anal rosebud for a week.

Also big love for the guy insisting preservatives improve the flavour of food. Hope the flavour of UHT isn't too strong for you.

>> No.9840308

>>9840300
>It doesn't matter if I use real deal or some cheap-ass substitute that only shares the name
And this is, ladies and gents, why Americans are such horrible cooks

>> No.9840312

>>9840308
>It doesn't matter if I use real deal or some cheap-ass substitute that only shares the name

Lmao thats not even remotely close to what I said, are you really that desperate?

A recipe is a recipe, and to get the exact same result one only needs to follow the exact same recipe. Anyone can do it no matter if they're in America of fucking China.

>> No.9840315

Amerifat here.
I understand the hate that british food gets but I honestly love it. Oftentimes I'll start my day off with marmite and butter on an english muffin. I am extremely jealous of your selection of meat pies, I don't even think you can get them in the USA, at least not for cheap. Full english breakfast is something I crave from time to time and when I go back to Britain that's probably one of the first things I'm gonna get. Cadbury > Hershey undeniably. Milky bars are amazing. Pickled onion is second only to salt and vinegar as the greatest potato chip flavor of all time. Spotted Dick and mince pie are two of my favorite desserts, and I always pressure my family into letting me make a christmas pudding for the holiday.

I could go on and on, but yeah I'm definitely a britboo in the culinary sense.

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>>9840312
>Lmao thats not even remotely close to what I said
> literally anyone could do it and get the same result.

>> No.9840324

>>9840236
>EU is famously mocked for their retarded food laws
>attempts to shit on America

Stay obsessed kiddo, lmao

>> No.9840325

>>9840320
>literally anyone could do it and get the same result.

Yeah, IF THEY FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME RECIPE! Context dude, learn some reading comprehension.

>> No.9840326

>>9840312
Unless, of course, you don't have access to specific ingredients.
Which you won't have and thus not making the thing you are trying to make. Newsflash, bitch: a fuckload of foodstuff requires very specific conditions to get them. Different type of soil? Slightly different feeder for animals? Congrats, you won't get the same results

>> No.9840332

>>9840325
Learn about picking your ingredients, you dumb shit. Just because you have recipe and pick what looks the same to use doesn't mean you will get the same thing. Jesus fuck, do I really need to explain that just because you bought "some beef" won't do?

>> No.9840335

>>9840324
>EU is famously mocked for their retarded food laws
Where and by whom?
Oh, right, Americans who are salty everyone mocks their "food"

>> No.9840337

>>9840326
>>9840332
Thats why I said EXACT recipe you dumb fucks

>> No.9840341

>be british
>your food and culture is relegated to being for commoners only
>your french masters have high culture and fancy food
>be surprised when you still eat gruel hundreds of years later
it's the mindset

>> No.9840342

>>9840335
>"food"

I still will never understand how Europeans can be so elitist about American food when their only experience of it is from fast food and /int/ memes

Like seriously... leave your hometown and get some worldly experience

>> No.9840344

>>9840342
>"food"
I still will never understand how Americans can be so elitist about food when their only experience of it is from fast food and /int/ memes
Like seriously... leave your hometown and get some worldly experience

>> No.9840347

>>9840344
I dunno who you think you're talking to, I've travelled all over America and Europe and have a wide range of culinary experience.

>> No.9840351

>>9840347
I dunno who you think you're talking to, I've travelled all over America and Europe and have a wide range of culinary experience.

>> No.9840353

>>9840315
Hey man, glad you like our chocolate, shame Cadbury's was bought by Americans though so it's basically Hershey's lite now.

American food has always been odd to me, cause it's always got the best and the worst at the same time. Want an American beer in the UK? You can have a craft American session pale ale for about the same price as piss in a can (Coors). Want meat? You can have shitty hamburger patty or the best rump steak of your life. Want pickle? You can get nasty gherkins or fantastic Sauerkraut. Want vegetables? Hahahaaaa no.

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>>9840351
Are you a parrot?

>> No.9840357

>>9840195
>And the point was to travel around, not only to Poland

No need, all the gormless Poles come here and scrub our toilets and bring their worthless cuisine with them.

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>>9840344
>>9840351
>The absolute state of yurofag "banter"

Man that's just disappointing, arent you guys supposed to be good at this?

>> No.9840364

>>9840356
Are you a maggot?

>> No.9840365

>>9840364
Are you a faggot?

>> No.9840368

>>9840047
ah good the foreigners look at what the british underclasses eat and then assume that the rest of the country eats it too

>> No.9840371

>>9840364
Did you just finish watching Full Metal Jacket or something, Sgt. R Lee Ermey?

>> No.9840372

>3 words for 7 (You)'s and 2 images
thx burgers xox

>>9840230
top lel, before this I only knew about the sports communism
i wonder if there are designated cheese smugglesr

>> No.9840374

>>9840368
Well excuse me for not living in Devon eating nothing but fucking salmon cheeks posho.

>> No.9840376

>>9840372
>designated cheese smugglesr

That'll be the day, I'd die for some Cayuga Blue

>> No.9840381

The idea that Britain has bad food is one constantly pushed by the US and always 'proven' by urban populations who don't know how to shop or buy good stuff; I've got butchers around me that for cheaper than the supermarket sell meat that would blow any Americans mind, great vegetables, all grown in my county, and a whole array of cheeses made in the UK that are better or he match for any in the world. Savoury pastries and such are best here; pies, etc. With beer and cider, we're on top of the world again, and with spirits, we've got a fair nice ones with whisky and gin. In terms of sweets, desserts and confections, again, hard to beat the UK and I'd have a dandelion and burdock over a Mountain Dew any day of the week. This is just covering stuff that you can make or prepare using ingredients within the country.

UK? Bad food? Keep repeating the meme. Maybe one day it'll come true. But i'd rather have dinner in Shropshire than anywhere in the US.

>> No.9840382

>>9840381
>But i'd rather have dinner in Shropshire than anywhere in the US.

You dont need to combat ignorance with more ignorance anon.

>> No.9840395

>>9840381
You could say all of this about literally any country. You grew up there so you automatically think it's this mind blowing shit but literally every country has got amazing butchers for cheap, fresh locally grown vegetables, amazing cheeses, great alcoholic drinks, and stupendous pasteries. You arent unique.

>> No.9840405

UK """food""" is shit because everything else in UK is shit.
Shit music (haha thanks for radiohead wow so nice hearing whining and 3 notes)
Shit humor (haha monty python so randumb haha stiff upper lip)
Shit food (haha let's take pajeet food and make it even worse)

Name literally one good thing that came out of UK

>> No.9840409

>>9840405
Well not America then.

>> No.9840410

>>9840405
>Name literally one good thing that came out of UK

America

>> No.9840411

>>9840381
>UK
>best pastries
>best beer
>best sweets

Literally neck yourself

>> No.9840414

>>9840409
Oh Im sorry, should we have not ushered the Western world into an unprecedented era of peace?

>> No.9840416

>>9840405
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Peep Show
The Who
Pulp
The Faces
David Bowie
T-Rex
28 Days Later
A Clockwork Orange
James Bond
Queen
Craig Ferguson
The Enlightenment

>> No.9840417

>>9840414
Sorry for what, our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our peace, especially since it's such good size and all

>> No.9840420

>>9840417
You're right anon, we got the largest peace since humans lived in caves

>> No.9840427

I did find a lack of traditional food when I went to london. Fish&chips, meatpie with gravy and burgers was everything that looked british, I was in london and that may be the reason, prob have to move to the countryside

>> No.9840431

>>9840250
Eastern Europe was covered in commie blocks within 10 years of the end of WW2 and transport systems had been rebuilt or wholesale replaced.

In reality the USSR & COMECON countries rebuilt at the same speed as Western Europe. The difference is that Western Europe was reliant on imports from the USA & Commonwealth for nearly a decade, while the USSR and COMECON pushed hard to recover self-sustainability. You had it worse for the first two years, but were in far better shape by the end of 1955.

>> No.9840467

>>9840107
Ireland/Northern Ireland even worse "cuisine". Have you seen the abomination known as "Coddle"? I live here and through learning to cook I actually eat flavourful food. It would be a rare occassion where I ate anything remotely like the bland distressingly grey slop I grew up on.

>> No.9840482
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9840482

>absolute worst food
Mexican food

It's just rice, beans, and meat with slight variations

The only reason why people like it is because of virtue signaling libshit hipsters who forced this meme on western civilization, it's dogshit for anyone with functional taste buds

>> No.9840489

>>9840482
>talks about Mexican food
>posts Tex-Mex
lel

>> No.9840492
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9840492

>>9840268
>Brie: French
>Mozzarella: Italy
>Stilton: Britain
> ?: USA

Not who you've been speaking to but if your cheeses are as good as you say they are how come no-one outside of the US has ever heard of them?

>> No.9840499

>>9840492
Since America is a nation of immigrants, those immigrants make the same styles of cheeses their ancestors learned to make in the home countries.

>> No.9840511

>>9840489
The food in pic related isn't tex mex you virtue signaling shitlib, using cream in mexican food is commonplace.

Also, Mexican food is often associated with getting diarrhea, because of poor hygiene practices and the food being literally dogshit.

>> No.9840532

>>9840511
>you virtue signaling shitlib
epic

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9840536

>>9840511
REEEEEEEE IT'S NOT TEX-MEX ITS AUTHENTIC MEXICAN FOOD MADE IN MIAMI HOLY SHIT YOU LIBERAL OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.9840544

>>9840511
>peas and carrots in the rice
>not tex-mex
lel

>> No.9840573

go try it and then say beans on toast are shit, otherwise fuck off

>> No.9840577

>>9840573
>otherwise fuck off
need a safe space?

>> No.9840579

>>9840064
>3 generations

You were serfs prior to communism too, in a somewhat rougher environment at that. Making something from nothing goes back way farther than 3 generations for slavs. Bongs generally had it better for longer, then got fucked into the ground.

>> No.9840580

>>9840405
>as he types in english

>> No.9840586

>>9840580
because of the united states

>> No.9840622

>>9840120
vinegar is class mate dont be a twat. Chips soaked through with vinegar, nothing better.

>> No.9840624

Americans are absolutely obsessed with Britain. It's adorable really.

>> No.9840632

>>9840120
>No herb culture, so they don't use herbs for seasoning
False
>Somehow not even using garlic, which is standard for all those cousines that avoid spices.
False.

The amount of people in here who's sole knowledge of other countries comes from television and films is a bit scary really.

>> No.9840637

>>9840624
Only for Top Gear, but you fucked that up and now they're ours. Heh, sucker

>> No.9840641

>>9840492
By law they cant be exported out of state, thats the reason

>> No.9840669

>>9840368
Are you saying you're proud that your middle class eats worse than a third worlder middle class with actually diverse and tasty cousine?

>> No.9840675

>>9840511
>It's another sheltered NE american episode

>> No.9840697

>>9840669
At least the UK still has a middle class

>> No.9840701

>>9840697
Not for long

>> No.9840702

>>9840669
what?
middle class people eat just fine in this country

>> No.9840707

>>9840702
>>9840697

A Mexican homeless man eats tastier and possibly healthier than a rat-race Nigel

>> No.9840710

>>9840701
Yeah true. I blame that on you, brexit, and old people.

>> No.9840711

>>9840047
hey
mate
hey
you know what you can do
fuck off

>> No.9840712

>>9840707
nah
stop chatting shit

>> No.9840726

MANCHESTA UNOITED IS TH FUKKIN TITS MATE

TH

FUKKEN

TITS

MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.9840727

>>9840707
Rat race Nigel eats at Greggs daily and is obese. He still manages to be a functioning member of society as a desk jockey.

Cholesterol Cletus gets a welfare check every month that allows him to buy everything he can reach from his mobility scooter in Walmart so long as his flab doesn't get caught in the wheels.

>> No.9840733

>>9840727
wew in an argument about mexico you bring up the US talk about obsessed

>> No.9840741

>>9840733
Oh we're on Mexico now?

I'll be honest I'm not keeping track and I just like to shit on the US

>> No.9840744

>>9840741
hahahah dude epic

>> No.9840752

>>9840579
Most of Slavland was relatively well-off. It's the Russian Empire and USSR that were poor. Even then, some Western regions of Russian Empire were better off than 90% of Russia itself.

>> No.9840776

>>9840744
Mexico is literally the fattest country on earth so yeah I bet they do eat pretty well

>> No.9840813

STOP TYPING "COUSINE" YOU FUCKING GOOBERS

>> No.9840962

>>9840047
Put those beans in a pot to reduce the sauce a little bit, add salt and pepper and a knob of butter into it, then pour them over toast. Then grate some cheese over the top, something sharp like a cheddar, but whatever takes your fancy and you have a decent snack. Or meal if you're a student.

>> No.9840968

>>9840813
What if theyre just french people referencing their female cousins?

>> No.9841064

Why is this website and this board in particular so obsessed with Britain? I know Americans like to say people are obsessed with them, but I constantly see non-stop comments about Britain no matter what thread or board I'm on.

>> No.9841094

>>9841064
It's literally a worldwide joke that the British have the worst food and whaddya know, you're on a food board

>> No.9841131
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>it's another British food shitposting thread l

Has it been 15 minutes already?

>> No.9841176

Why are Americans incapable of understanding that their opions on things outside the US are worthless? The only other country that has such mass indoctrination is North Korea, who also make their children swear allegiance to the state every day.

>> No.9841186

>>9840062
>NE
Youre probably thinking of the midwest. NE has a shitton of borrowed and bastardized recipes from the flood of immigrants as well as most of Americas ports and fisheries. The midwest is where shit like fried butter and cheese logs comes from.

>> No.9841219

>>9841064
No one but the British are obsessed with the British. Don't kid yourself.

>> No.9841228

>>9840047
>worst food and why is it the UK?
Because anybody with any talent, courage, or motivation left that island long, long ago.

>> No.9841245

>>9841219
Then why does this thread, and the multiple British food threads every week posted by Americans, exist?

>> No.9841260

>>9841245
>posted by Americans
You sure about that

>> No.9841271

>>9841176
If it weren't for lend-lease Europe would be controlled by the Hun right now. Oh wait, they control it anyway through the EU. LEL

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>>9841245
>posted by Americans

>> No.9842039

>>9841064
america is a child that loves to moan to his friends about how boring and lame his dad is

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>>9840047
>What place has the absolute worst food
America

>> No.9842077

>>9842039
>britain is a sad old man whose storied past of pride and glory has faded and left him a rambling shell of his old self
>america is the son who grew into everything his father was but only sees what he's become and resents and mocks him for it
We all become our fathers, America.

>> No.9842092

>>9840467
>t. Westbrit

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>>9842055
>American flavored

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9842246

>>9842055
What, you don't like Food Product?

>> No.9842293

>>9841186
>NE has a shitton of borrowed and bastardized recipes from the flood of immigrants as well as most of Americas ports and fisheries
And none of it is good.

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>>9842055
Nice come back!
Now everyone doesn't think the UK has the worst food. Thumbs up.

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>>9842055
Please tell me this is a joke or just photoshop

>> No.9842341

>>9842246
I actually love this shit for camping. It's basically pate, spread it on crackers, it's salty and delicious.
If you're cheap you can just get vienna sausages and smash them up in the can with a fork.

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9842355

>>9840381
>British
>beer
>top of the world

>> No.9842368

>>9840431
If you take into account GDP growth - maybe.
If you take the state of industry and agriculture - not even close. Mostly because after initial 3/4/5 year plan (depends on country how many years were reserved for direct reconstruction), every other plan that followed was about building heavy industry, since that's what Soviets were doing and they were obviously knowing what's up, right?
What do you mean, Nowak, that you can't eat this band new steel? What are you? Some imperialistic fascist scum?

>> No.9842377

Have any Americans stated an American dish that is better than a UK one? If it involves American "cheese", you can fuck right off.

>> No.9842378

>>9840573
I had the misfortune of being served this shit and it was just fucking horrible. The sole fact Anglosaxons call this shit good only for toasts "bread" is the bigger issue, thou. It's literally inedible unless toasted.

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9842388

>>9840047
I really like british food

>> No.9842396

>>9840579
Not him and definitely not a Pole, but are you aware Czechoslovakia was 6th most industrialised nation before the war? And it's still Slav country. Well, was, since they split in 90s to Czech Republic and Slovakia.

>> No.9842399

>>9842378
Not enough sugar in the bread for ya? We don't do Wonderbread over here. You dumb septic.

>> No.9842427

>>9842246
I'm looking at this can and all I can think about is GDR canned bread military rations what you were supposed to cook it for 45 minutes in boiling water to get "a loaf of fresh bread".
And I suppose this "food product" tastes even worse.

>> No.9842436

>>9842388
And where is fucking Mary Poppins?

>> No.9842438
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9842438

>>9842399
... what?
Just for reference, pic related is a real bread

>> No.9842446

>>9840353
>American food has always been odd to me, cause it's always got the best and the worst at the same time

It kind of mirrors our wealth disparity. We have Trump and Bill Gates and we have DeShawn and Cletus.

>> No.9842461

>>9840178
Let me guess, all you know is toast sandwiches and beans on toast, right?

Go travel around, taste different things, then try being judgemental faggot.

>> No.9842465

>>9842438
You don't like proper white bread?

>> No.9842468

>>9842077
>deep down we still love you and would fight to protect you

>> No.9842482

>>9842377
I'm a big fan and vocal defender of English cuisine but quality BBQ from any of the various US regions pretty much destroys any single English dish.

>> No.9842483

>>9842465
>Eating wheat-only bread
>Calling it "proper"
Anglosaxon confirmed. And you complain about fucking sweet bread, Jesus...

>> No.9842495

>>9842461
Not him, but name us 5 dishes of English cousine that aren't just roasted piece of meat in bland sauce or ingredients of traditional breakfast.
Go on, surely you can do that, as a britbong.

>> No.9842499

>>9842482
How can you compare BBQ to beans on toast?

>> No.9842507

>>9842483
Did the first bread makers make whoegrain, 7 grain, wholemeal or half and half bread? No. they used white flour.

>> No.9842510

>>9842499
>How can you compare dish A to dish B
By doing so?

>> No.9842514

>>9842507
I don't even know what the fuck you are talking about... again.

>> No.9842523

>>9842495
Cottage pie
Scouse
Sunday roast
Steak and ale pie
Beef wellington

>just roasted piece of meat in bland sauce
You can describe pretty much all national cuisines in unappetizing ways.

>> No.9842529

>>9842495
You can thank us for that macaroni cheese that Americans like to pretend they invented.

>> No.9842531

>>9842507
They used buckwheat, you moron.
That's literally how bread-making started, because that's the floor they had at hand. Wheat wasn't planted for quite a while while bread was already eaten.

>> No.9842532

>>9842510
They are not in the same category. According to you, you can compare tomato soup to smores.

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9842533

>>9842507
Not that guy, but original bread was made with coarse flour and completely different fermentation procedure. It was actually bread, not some sort of spongy tasteless cake, like the one you brits eat.
pic related, real bread

t. euro living in bongland at the moment

>> No.9842534

>>9842523
>aren't just roasted piece of meat in bland sauce
>proceeds doing just that

>>9842529
So I can thank you for yet another tasteless gruel, this time based on pasta?

>> No.9842536

>>9842495
Why bother? You'll only pick apart each dish as either "bland" (which for Americans seems to mean it isn't doused in ranch sauce or covered in a mound of sugar) or "not British"

As an American, your opinion on things outside your country is worthless, because you are simply the most insular first world nation, and spending any time or effort to try and change a boring xenophobes opinion is a massive waste of time.

>> No.9842543

>>9842514
You write in English, but obviously don't understand it. Shame.

>> No.9842544

>>9842533
they have bread like that in england

>> No.9842547

>>9842532
>you can compare tomato soup to smores.
And why you can't?

>>9842523
He asked for things other than roasted meat,. And you put "Sunday roast", probably the epitome of British bland cousine, where you pick a piece of meat, roast it without seasoning and then chew for an entire hour before you can eat your piece.

>> No.9842551

>>9842523
>sunday roast
literally all european countries roast large pieces of meat together with vegetables, they just don't slather everything with sweet sauces, murdering all the ingredients in the process
(germans actually do a bit of that, fucking idiots)

>beef wellington
unless it's the superior Ramsay'd version, it's a pretty unnapetizing thing with either overcooked meat or undercooked pastry

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>>9842544

>> No.9842553

>>9842536
>simply the most insular first world nation
We get put to shame by any Asian nation. Japan, China, South Korea, whatever.

>> No.9842555

>>9842531
And if you grind buckwheat and remove the husks, what colour is the flour?

>> No.9842557

>>9842543
It's not me jumping from subject to subject and making retarded, confusing claims. Like already other anons explained to your retarded ass, wheat bread is a later invention of, surprise surprise, Brits. Another way of fucking things up, this time with something as basic as bread.

>> No.9842558

>>9842533
are you too scared to go to a bakers or something?
that presliced shit in plastic bags isnt the only bread available

>> No.9842563

>>9842544
yes, in "fancy" bakeries or double the price of the other bread in supermarkets
meanwhile in my country it costs 0.11€ each bun

>> No.9842564

>>9842536
>as an American, your opinion on things outside your country is worthless
I'm not American, you dumb shit. I don't even know from where you've got such retarded idea in the first place

>> No.9842565

>>9842547
>roast it without seasoning and then chew for an entire hour

Confirmed for never having had a well made roast dinner.

If you're so bad at cooking that you can't even make a sunday roast with a well seasoned, succulent piece of meat, then maybe you should be one a different board.

>> No.9842568

>>9842552
i hope that's not your idea of "the same bread". you have to be either blind or retarded

>> No.9842573

>>9842555
Brown-beige
It's like you never saw buckwheat flour

>> No.9842578

>>9842565
You are missing the point. You were supposed to list something ELSE than roasted meat.
And you proceed with giving exactly that - roasted meat.
If you can't follow basic instructions, maybe you shouldn't even answer in the first place?

>> No.9842579

>>9842547
You actually think tomato soup and marshmallows are the same but cooked differently? You twat.

>> No.9842582

>>9842558
Even the one in the bakers tastes like nothing. The inside is spongy and not stringy like a good dense bread should be. I like my country but recognize its flaws. You brits could be able to accept that gastronomy and food in general is really bad in the UK. You have amazing universities, great musicians, etc, etc. Your food is shit, accept that.

>> No.9842584

>>9842555
Light brown.

>> No.9842590

>>9840104
Yeah but your country is still shit. I'd rather have beans on toast in the UK than fine cuisine in your shit country kek

>> No.9842595

>>9842579
I simply asked why you can't compare the two. Everything else is your wild assumption, britbong

>> No.9842597

>>9842582
It isn't though. London is one of the world food capitals for a reason.

>> No.9842599

>>9842590
Imagine being this out of arguments and starved for attention you try to reheat an argument from 13 hours aback
It's almost as stale as British food

>> No.9842604

There's literally no point. The only understanding these people have of other countries is one of stereotypes from film and television.

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>>9842597
>London is one of the world food capitals
>London
>food capital
Rule Brittania....

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>>9842590

>> No.9842613

>>9842595
Okay, compare a black man to an ice cube.

>> No.9842614

>>9842578
There's plenty of other options but sunday roast is a great dish that can sum up a lot of British cuisine. Hearty, homey, filling food.

I ignored your "instruction" because it was clearly coming from a place of bias where you try to simplify things into sounding unappetizing.

If you're that insistent on something else then there's things like Ploughman's lunch, Lancashire hotpot, all the different cheeses and desserts.

>> No.9842616

>>9840307
Yeah London has shit cuisine, why not go to the Mcdonalds in New Delhi...

>> No.9842619

>>9842597
I live in London. It's far from being a food capital, it's just that it's a huge financial hub so good chefs set up a joint there to make cash grabs. Typical food sold is always bastardised to fit english taste. It usually is very sweet, every dish from every possible cuisine is modified to have some form of sweetened sauce, or some sweet/sour shit, because that's what brits recognise as non bland, sweetness. The rest of the world actually has a palate and hates most of London's offering.
And also, for being such a "food capital" it is appalling that you literally cannot eat a DECENT (not good) meal for less than 15£.

>> No.9842621

>>9840431
>In reality the USSR & COMECON countries rebuilt at the same speed as Western Europe.
This is factually wrong and simply misinformation. As you may know, Germany had an internal border at that time, it was split into a capitalist and into a communist part. Frankfurt was rebuilt in the 50s already, while Erfurt, over the border in Thuringia, continued to remain a pile of rubble. Not to mention that the Soviets looted every single factory after the war and moved all heavy machinery to their country. Please don't open your mouth about things you know nothing about.

>> No.9842624

>>9842613
Still can do that.
Why you can't?

>> No.9842625

>>9842604
I literally live in the UK and am taking the piss out of its "gastronomy". Cry more, bitch.

>> No.9842629

>>9842614
>List other things than roasted meat
>Lel, you are just biased
And you are retarded.
Alternatively, your "great cousine" is so fucking limited you can't figure out 5 dishes that aren't roasted meat.

Either of those two is just as bad

>> No.9842631

>>9842605
I mean, this is what you're trying to argue with.

>> No.9842633

>>9842614
refer to>>9842551
If your summary of your country is something that literally every other country does, than it just means you have no identity at all. And that is actually the case here.

>> No.9842641

>>9842619
I mean, I'm sorry but if you can't find anything good to eat in London then maybe you're just too fucking stupid to deserve to live.

>> No.9842643

>>9840511
>associated with getting diarrhea
that's india

>> No.9842649

>>9842624
Commence

>> No.9842650

>>9842614
Sunday roast is literally piece of roasted meat.
EVERYONE had that. There is nothing special, unique or British about it. Unless it tastes like shit, then it's probably British allright.

>>9842631
... what?

>> No.9842651

>>9842625
You don't understand. Your opinion doesn't matter. At all. If that's what you want to believe then believe it. It doesn't matter.

>> No.9842653

>>9842641
He's not wrong. The Indians are famous for dumbing down their food to a bland mess so Brits can eat it.

>> No.9842657

>>9842650
>... what?
I'm saying that you are too stupid to be reasoned with.

>> No.9842661

I mean, if this was a French board, and they were making fun of British food I'd understand. But Americans? Really?

>> No.9842662

>>9842651
>Let me put fingers into my ears and sing aloud Rule Britannia once again
>The issue magically disappeared, see Nigel?

>> No.9842664

>>9842661
Check hours. Americans were fast asleep when this thread started.
Surprise, surprise, not only Americans use 4chan!

>> No.9842673

>>9842641
Yes, that's certainly the reason I got accepted into a top Uni in the world instead of a fucking native bong. And the same reason I got my job instead of a native bong. These guys here in the UK sure are brilliant motherfuckers, having to import experts like me in all possible areas that require any form of organized thought.

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>> No.9842682

>>9842661
I'm not american.

>> No.9842692

>>9842676
Almost feels like /int/.
Just makes you realise what petty racist assholes people really are, all across this website.

>> No.9842693

>>9842377
No replies to this yet? Why? I know why, but I want septics to try and defend it.

>> No.9842694

>>9842673
I mean, maybe your amazing awesome skills everybody wants would be better put to use in a country you don't complain about so much then? I'm sure no one would miss you.

>> No.9842698

>>9842692
I'm actually amazed, really. It's my first day on /ck/ and this board has almost as much vitrol in it as /v/

>> No.9842699

Brit here, our food is shit, are you all happy, now go away

>> No.9842705

>>9842649
Still waiting.........

>> No.9842706

>>9842698
A lot of threads are fine, but ones criticising British food in particular seem to bring out the pol tards.

>> No.9842707

>>9842694
They're paying enough so that complaining to family/friends/4chan is enough to live with it. And I cook my own meals, so I found a way around the shitty food. Doesn't change the fact that I think it's shit.

>> No.9842709

>>9842694
Aside the people who employed him due to the demand, right? And the people having access to whatever sevice he provided.
But hey, let's throw all immigrants out! Who needs them, Britannia stronk!

>> No.9842715

>>9842699
I am happy, thanks m80.

>> No.9842717

>>9842707
But if the food is shit how could you cook it yourself? You mean the ingredients are ok? Or maybe that your super special in demand skills don't extend to seeking out food in a city you are obviously unfamiliar with.

>> No.9842721

>>9842709
I'm sure they can find another one who isn't as likely to blow himself up.

>> No.9842737

>>9842377
>>9842693
Clam chowder
Fried chicken
Gumbo
All of our Tex-Mex dishes
Florida style seafood plate

And the list goes on and on...

>> No.9842745

>>9842717
The ingredients are ok, yes. I think people saying british produce is tasteless are just stupid, you can find good and bad stuff. The only think that really is lacking is the fish/seafood, it's very expensive and not great quality. The meat is pretty good quality, to be honest.
What I'm complaining about are the cooking skills of the people here. Food is very badly prepared.

>> No.9842757

>>9842721
Yes anon, we all know those Polish bombers and Indian assassins.

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>>9842737
>snail+flour soup
>kfc
>shat on the paella
>shat on the rice
>dude fish lmao

>> No.9842779

>>9842745
>. The only think that really is lacking is the fish/seafood
Seriously? Get yourself to a fishing town, Whitby or pretty much anywhere in Scotland will blow that assumption out of the water. Scottish langoustines are some of the most prized in the world.

>> No.9842781

>>9842757
The guy could be from anywhere. I'm from Germany and some of my former classmates went to England to work as engineers. You never know.

>> No.9842789

>>9842760
Is this what the Brits call "banter"? Because it's neither particularly amusing nor very witty.

>> No.9842796

>>9842568
no, it's a sausaged roll

>> No.9842801

>>9842779
Scottish shellfish is good, I'll give you that. But I'm badly accostumed, I come from the country said to have the best quality of fish in the world, we even export some specific shit to Japan for fancy sushi.

>>9842781
Portugal

>> No.9842808

>>9842781
That was the fucking point - he could be from anywhere. Instead britbong decide that brexit and getting paranoid is going to solve all their issues, because "muh immigrants stealing our jobs". Well not my fault Brits have fucked up education system and can't train their own specialists

>> No.9842833

>>9842737
2 immediate mistakes.
Fried Chicken is a Scottish invention.
Tex-Mex is mainly Mexican.
Gumbo is possibly French or African.
Chowder is French/English.
Florida style means nothing.

>> No.9842843

>>9842801
A lot of the seafood is good seriously, you just need to go to the right places. Usually up north.

>> No.9842848

>>9842833
>Fried Chicken is a X invention
Fried Chicken exists as a dish ever since first human decided to fry first chicken.
Which I suppose was somewhere 5k years ago and definitely not in what's today Scotland.

>> No.9842867

>>9842848
You actually think that people were deep frying chicken 5000 years ago? Google fried chicken.

>> No.9842880

>>9842867
>G-google it
Anon, let me ask you this:
Why are you so obtuse?

>> No.9842883

>>9842833
>Fried Chicken is a Scottish invention.
Americans invented the methods of frying and seasoning which make fried chicken American. No shit that people eat various styles of chicken dishes around the world.
>Tex-Mex is mainly Mexican.
Not wrong. However, Mexico is in North America too, so it can also be considered North American. Not to mention that the practice of putting beef into typically Mexican dishes is an American invention.
>Gumbo is possibly French or African.
It's a dish that was invented by settlers from the places you mentioned in what is now Louisiana. So in America. It's an American dish. People of many ethnicities, living in America, came together and created it, in America.
>Chowder is French/English.
Not New England/Manhattan style chowder. No one cares about your shitty Europoor chowder.
>Florida style means nothing.
It actually does. It indicates what species of fish and other marine animals are included and what fruits/vegetables and spices are used to season the dish.

>> No.9842886

>>9840057
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE0VP0EZ0M&list=PLcNoGuHT7bHjgDib4-NmPZPI1ZowBUkKw

just finished watching the whole thing. Pretty entertaining show. Funny to see how big

>> No.9842890

>>9842867
Dravidians were deep-frying poultry, predominately chickens, before Aryan conquest.
That gives us what? 4000 years? 4200?

>> No.9842893

>>9842848
>Gumbo is often used as a metaphor for the mix of cultures that exist in southern Louisiana.[1] The dish combines the culinary practices of French, Spanish, indigenous tribes, and Africans, as well as Italians, Filipinos, and Germans. In the 18th and 19th centuries, people from these cultures lived together within a fairly small area with minimal mobility. This fostered an environment in which cultures could influence each other and meld to create new traditions and cuisine.
I'm sorry Anon, but you might actually be retarded.

>> No.9842896

>>9842883
>New England/Manhattan style chowder
>Florida style
Why Americans are always doing this? This entire "X style Y"? You are just making a cheap copy of some other dish. My all-time "favourite" is "Chicago-style pizza".

>> No.9842897

>>9842893
meant for
>>9842833

>> No.9842903

>>9842893
... and that relates to fried chicken how?

>> No.9842904

>>9842893
>a fucking metaphor

>> No.9842906

>>9842843
Fair enough. I will admit that I haven't gone up north enough to say will strong certainty that the seafood is bad on the UK as a whole, but it sure is bad in London. I've been wanting to go to Scotland for a while, though, so I guess that's further incentive.

>> No.9842907

>>9842896
Because geographic origin determines what preparation methods and what ingredients are used. A meal prepared in the hot South will vastly differ in taste from a meal prepared in the cold Pacific Northwest, in part due to differing palates of the people living there and in part to the availability of ingredients and local customs.
>Chicago-style pizza
Is very different from New York style pizza. Which kind of proves my point.

>> No.9842910

>>9842907
>>Chicago-style pizza
>Is very different from New York style pizza.
You don't get it, don't you?

>> No.9842913

>>9842910
Apparently not. Please enlighten me.

>> No.9842917

>>9842883
Every "argument" you have made there. has just agreed with every statement I said.
"Style" is not a way of cooking or preparing food.

>> No.9842926

>>9842913
>Americans love to make X styled Y dishes
>It's just cheap-ass immimtation that works around trademarks and similar
And I've literally repeated my original post now, only shortened it to bare essence

>> No.9842932

>>9842890
Did they document it as a recipe or method of cooking?

>> No.9842936

>>9842917
>"Style" is not a way of cooking or preparing food.
What is it if not a method of preparing food?
Are you implying that Beef Wellington is the same dish as German Sauerbraten? After all, they only differ by style, the ingredients used are pretty much the same.

>> No.9842943

>>9842926
Is it really imitation though if the result tastes, looks and feels vastly different than whatever you want to consider to be the original?

>> No.9842957

>>9842943
... yes?
Because if you want to be original, stop fucking hogging the name of something else and just adding random adjectives to said name

>> No.9842965

>>9842932
When a philosphical text makes a reference to fried chicken as an example of changing states, then you know such thing like fried chicken has to exist and be common enough, especially if it deliberately talks about submerging.

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9842971

>>9842936
>the ingredients used are pretty much the same

>> No.9842973

>>9842957
But by that logic the multitude of German, Polish, Spanish and Italian styles of sausage are all in some way or another "ripped off" from some original sausage that was invented God knows where, God knows when. Yet you don't consider these to be "copies" for some reason, you only accuse Americans of plagiarism.

>> No.9842980

>>9842971
They are. Beef and a mix of vegetables. Except that Sauerbraten is prepared in a different fashion than beef Wellington, which makes it taste different.
But fine, let's take another example. Would you consider Italian air dried ham to be the same dish as German smoked ham? After all, they only differ by "style", right?

>> No.9842989

>>9842936
Style means nothing in the way of cooking. It's like saying I will cook roast chicken and serve up chicken tendies and say this is US style roast chicken. Beef Wellington incorporates mushroom duxelle and puff pastry.

>> No.9842992

>>9842973
Are you aware they are not called the same, you stupid piece of shit, unless you try to translate their names into English?
For example, Polish kiełbasa has almost NOTHING to do with German wurst, unless we pick a specific type of kiełbasa/wurst that comes from a region that happend to change ownership back and forth, meaning the final product is a "co-production".

Not my fault you are too retarded to even grasp basic semantics at this point. Just because your shitty language knows no difference, doesn't make them any less different.

>> No.9843001

>>9842973
>Sausage
This is why I hate English language. You invent silly words or create retarded categories and then lump random things into them. The other similar example? "Sword", where you make fucking sabres swords. HOW?!

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9843006

>>9842980
>Beef and a mix of vegetables
>minced fat is the same as a joint

>> No.9843010

>>9842989
But it does. You just chose a very bad example that fits your narrative. Are you going to deny that Chicago style pizza is vastly different from Italian style pizza?
>>9842992
But they are. The German word for all sausages, including kielbasa and others, is Wurst. It's the german word for sausage, just as kielbasa is the polish word for sausage. They make no geographic distinction, they are words describing a certain type of food. People started calling them by their original names in America, when immigrants from Germany and immigrants from Poland wanted to find a way to differentiate their product from the product of other ethnicities, in order to make it marketable and more profitable. This doesn't change the fact that they are, in fact, called the same, in their respective languages. Also you seem extremely upset.

>> No.9843015
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>>9840107
Complete fucking Pseud. Pick another topic you can pretend to know anything about.

You do realise the Vikings came to England, particularly the South because our soil is so much more fertile?

I've been growing potatoes, beetroot, courgettes, raspberries, beans of all sorts in English soil for over 20 years and they taste great.

I will concede that Mediterrenean cusine is generally better than our own. However, certain things like a Sunday roast or Mashed codwobblers just can't be beat.

>> No.9843026

>>9843010
>Being unironically retarded

>> No.9843033

>>9843010
A chicago pizza is just the crusts pulled up at the edge. Still has tomato sauce and cheese and whatever else you want to put on it.

>> No.9843035

>>9843026
Friend, I speak German, as I had to learn it in school. The German word for "kielbasa", the Polish style of sausage is literally "Polnische Wurst", meaning Polish sausage. You're extremely dumb for some reason, or you're just trolling.

>> No.9843038

>>9842673
>>9842709
>>9842808

Lel, the uppity of immigrants always amazes me.
Same thing here in Germany.
Turks say: "We rebuilt Germany after WW2! Without us, you'd be nothing!"

When in fact Turks and all immigrants profit far more from their migration than the Germany/the UK/...

Always bear in mind: There are billions of possible immigrants. There are only a few non-subhuman peoples.
You are replaceable. We aren't.

>> No.9843040

>>9843033
It's more than that. It's baked in a pan, which alters the speed and effect of the browning reaction. It features a metric fuckton of cheese and a different type of dough, that won't burn as quick and that is fluffier.

>> No.9843047

>>9843038
I was with you up until the point when you started speaking of "non-subhuman" peoples. Please go back to your containment board.

>> No.9843048

>>9843035
And the English word for it is sausage. And Polish word for German wurst is niemiecka kiełbasa.
And you are still to fucking dense to get they aren't the same.

>> No.9843054

>>9843048
Rightyo, they differ by style, which was my point the entire fucking time.

>> No.9843056
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9843056

>>9843038
I know it's almost bump limit, but stay in your box

>> No.9843064

>>9843038
I don't give a fuck about the UK, I give a fuck about my money. They accept me in a top world uni? Good for me, though luck brits. They want to pay me for doing something? Good for me, tough luck brits. It's life, stop being a faggot a go to the next pegida meeting to rub dicks with your fellow shaven true germanic friends.

>> No.9843066

>>9843054
>differ by style
THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU STUPID SHIT!
YOU ARE PRETENDING OR STUPID FOR REAL? TELL ME - IF MACARONI AND CHEESE AND COD WITH FRIES THE SAME THING IN DIFFERENT STYLE OR COMPLETELY UNRELATED STUFF UNDER THE GROUP OF THINGS CALLED "FOOD"?!

>> No.9843068

>>9843040
Dough, tomato sauce, cheese and whatever you want. Sounds like a pizza to me. Just baked in a pan.

>> No.9843082

>>9843066
>THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU STUPID SHIT!
No, they aren't. They're meat stuffed into guts and shaped into a cylindrical form. They differ solely by their style of preparation - meaning what seasoning, what grinding method, what cooking or smoking method was used. Just like New England chowder differs from British chowder. They are the same thing if you only look at the ingredients, but the style of preparation makes them very different things, that taste different and feel different.
It's time to lay off the vodka and go to sleep now, Janusz.

>> No.9843088

>>9843068
>Dough, tomato sauce, cheese and whatever you want.
Almost sounds like a BLT, huh?

>> No.9843095

>>9843088
No.

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9843113

>>9843088
>lettuce on a pizza

>> No.9843278

>>9843064
>I don't give a fuck about the UK

Yes, we know. That's the whole point.

>> No.9843559

>>9840104
Dang dude you’re so tough
Good job personally making it through all those hard times and proving how tough you are

>> No.9843874

>>9840047
Fucking with bongs aside, I always thought of bird food being worse off than British.
What's worse to you, rotten shark and surstromming or beans on everything and bland meats?

>> No.9843899

>>>9840171
>Your cheese all taste the same - like eating wax. It's absolutely amazing how Americans, while producing so much milk and having relatively big dairy industry, are so bad at handling cheese.

It's amazing how euros only latch on to the most cheaply produced and stereotypical shit we have in the US, like things haven't changed in the past decade.

Hipsters fucking suck, but they bring with them some decent shit, like

>> No.9843970

>>9843874
Fuck, I meant nord food

>> No.9843984

>>9843899
Fuckin A I'm off today, hipsters suck but they bring small batch local business type shit, which for every meme-shop, there's atleast 4 legitimately good shops for cheese or wine or whatever you can think of.

>> No.9844713

>>9840120
>>9840156
>cousine
We put vinegar on chips. Sorry if it’s a bit tangy for your numale palate. Now go away until you can spell simple words and have a valid opinion.

>> No.9844738

>>9840414
>era of peace
I really hope you’re not talking about now or you’re obviously memeing.

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>>9843113

>> No.9844749

>>9841260
Flags on /ck/ when?
Please hiroshimoot!

>> No.9844910

>>9842551
>where is Ramsay from?

>> No.9844921

>>9844910
He's British, but he has a French culinary background.