/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9130853]

>slice up some pieces of fish
>place them on top of little gobs of rice
>considered a "chef"

why is this allowed?

[Anonymous No.9130862]

>>9130853
Because if a white man did it he'd be called a bigot and fired immediately from his job. Especially if that white man was straight, and christian. Basically we have to pretend this old geezer is the same as inventing space flight and penicillin because I should feel bad for being born. Sushi is literally tumblr: the food.

[Anonymous No.9130913]

wa la

[Anonymous No.9130915]

>>9130853
you forgot the tiny bit of wasabi and the brush of soy sauce on top

[Anonymous No.9130920]

haha dafuqs deez nigga talkin bout?? >>9130862

[Anonymous No.9130930]

>>9130920
muh cultural appropriation, nigga.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article153143034.html

[Anonymous No.9130933]

>>9130853
>muh sushi

[Anonymous No.9130941]

>>9130930
>that article

I'm going to pretend I never read that and also pretend that people aren't actually that stupid

[Anonymous No.9130953]

Being Yoshikazu is suffering

[Anonymous No.9130961]

I just don't get it, there's like people spending that amount of time and energy trying to cure diseases and help people, then there's this asshole who spent all that cutting fish into little pieces - pathetic

[Anonymous No.9130964]

>>9130961
I see no problem as long as dumb people spent tons of money on little pieces of fish

[Anonymous No.9130966]

>>9130853
>>9130862
>>9130961

Back to Mcdonalds amerilard! don't forget to buy some extra mcdoubles for your midnight snack while your at it

[Anonymous No.9130973]

>>9130966
I'm not dumb enough to eat mcdonalds but I'm also not dumb enough to spend hundreds on a couple pieces of raw fish

[Anonymous No.9130979]

>>9130961
I just don't get it, there's like people spending that amount of time and energy trying to cure diseases and help people, then there's this asshole who spent all that shitposting on imageboard about some guy cutting fish into little pieces - pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9130983]

I will actually answer your question, OP, since it's very very obvious you weren't paying attention to the movie.

This guy is a chef because of the concentration he puts on his ingredients, selecting just the right fish, rice, soy sauce, and whatever else. These ingredients come at a premium, especially fish, which is being depleted and therefore price is going up. Also, sushi rice *needs* to be kept at a certain temperature (about body temp) for optimal taste and consistency, and that is surprisingly difficult to do.

There's also cost in the celebrity name and notariety that the chef has.

Stop being a jealous faggot, and do something with your life. Stop living life in the back seat. Learn something and get a job, nigger.

[Anonymous No.9130985]

>>9130983
but he doesn't even have to cook the fish, he literally tosses it on top of some rice and WA LA, are you actually trying to defend this bullshit?

[Anonymous No.9130994]

>>9130985
>WA LA
Nice meme, you sure thought you made a good point didn't you. You giant faggo. Also most people here aren't supporting your cuck bloggers but here to call you out on your ignorance to sushi. If you truly believe making good (nigiri) sushi is just slapping raw fish on rice then you should really stick to making fast food threads because you're oblivious to culinary arts.

[Anonymous No.9131009]

>>9130973
Yes it is dumb to spend hundreds on a couple pieces of raw fish but that is irrelevant to this thread. Did you really think that's what sushi is? I bet you also consider burgers to couple pieces of well-done meat, anyone can make american cuisine as well I suppose. Mexican cuisine? a couple spoonfuls of ground beef. Italian cuisine? some tomato sauce on cooked dough.

get out of /ck/ you degenerate

[Anonymous No.9131033]

RAW fucking FISH.
He's not even cooking.
CHEFS COOK.
He is not chef.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.9131038]

>>9131033
he cooks rice really well tho

[Anonymous No.9131075]

>>9130994
>>9131009
OP: btfo

[Anonymous No.9131096]

>>9130853
>McDonalds actually considered "food" in America
>Is poisoning the population
>All in the name of capitalism

Why is this allowed?

Get off /ck/ and kys

[Anonymous No.9131104]

>>9131038

Someone else does that.

[Anonymous No.9131117]

[Anonymous No.9131122]

[Anonymous No.9131123]

[Anonymous No.9131128]

[Anonymous No.9131144]

I wonder how much money he has

[Anonymous No.9131154]

>>9130853
Japanese "traditions" are really just unefficient ways to do everything that have been overglorified due to the country's centuries long isolation that left its people with nothing else to do but autistically repeat the same shit and do it quite literally "every day until they like it".
Everything from the cuisine to the art to the music is making everything as difficult and needlessly counter-intuitive as possible for a result that would easily be reached with ore realistic methods.

[Anonymous No.9131173]

>It's another daily globalism brainwash threads using bad redddit meme to spread cultural hate and sell more burgers and pizza hut

[Anonymous No.9131186]

>>9130853
i think i'd rather have this dude in my kitchen than a lot of other 'chefs' found all over america cooking retard MEATBALLS AND SPAGEDDI or OUR FAMOUS HOME MADE RISOTTO
you maggot

[Anonymous No.9131188]

>>9131096
>>All in the name of capitalism
Yes.
Which is the best system humanity has ever developed.

Are you a brainwashed commie or something?
Get gassed, honestly.

[Anonymous No.9131189]

>>9130853
What about that poisonous blowfish you have to cut perfectly or you die?

[Anonymous No.9131190]

>>9131154
I agree only about the lack of chairs thing.

[Anonymous No.9131194]

>>9131154
examples pls, not sure I understand your awesome observation of japanese culture and society.

[Anonymous No.9131199]

>>9131189
That's just a meme.

[Anonymous No.9131202]

>>9131194
Literally, every "japanese" music instrument is a differently tuned version of its chinesze origin with a tweak to make it harder to play while not change the potential or sound. Compare the Shamizen and its ridiculous plectrum to the much more fluent and modulable chinese shanxian.

[Anonymous No.9131206]

I prefer Juan Likes Rice & Chicken

[Anonymous No.9131212]

>>9131199
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu
Hmm?

[Anonymous No.9131216]

>>9131188

>Likes Hitler
>Hates socialism

[Anonymous No.9131223]

>>9130930
I never understood self harm until now. Reading that made me feel an urge to slam my dick in a door. Fuck mankind and what we have become. We need to suffer for this.

[Anonymous No.9131234]

>>9131216
>>Likes Hitler
>anyone who disagrees with me is a nazi
lmao

[Anonymous No.9131244]

>>9131202
Nice memes Zhang. Back to your /int/ sino generals because you're just embarrassing yourself with your pathetic anti-japanese babbling.

[Anonymous No.9131246]

>>9131244
Glad to see I'm being proven wrong
Want me to go grab the korean examples too?

[Anonymous No.9131258]

>>9131202
*tips songkok*

[Anonymous No.9131267]

>>9131123
what the fuck is this reddit trash

[Anonymous No.9131277]

>>9130983
So he puts fish on rice
Wooooooooooow

[Anonymous No.9131286]

>>9131154
>he doesn't understand the concept of tradition

[Anonymous No.9131317]

>>9130853
If it were that easy you would actually have a job, anon

[Anonymous No.9131367]

>>9130930
This is why Portlandia is so funny.

[Anonymous No.9131379]

>>9130985
Almost all of the effort beyond sourcing and cutting is the preparation of the rice actually.

[Anonymous No.9131385]

is nigiri a sandwich? Open-faced of course.

[Anonymous No.9131396]

>>9131385
There is no such thing as an open faced "sandwich." It's just shit on a shingle.

[Anonymous No.9131406]

>>9130961
Tell me, cocksucker, what have you done in your life to help mankind advance?

[Anonymous No.9131423]

>>9130983
>Also, sushi rice *needs* to be kept at a certain temperature (about body temp) for optimal taste and consistency, and that is surprisingly difficult to do.
If only there was a system that compares a controlled variable to a desired level, then adds the error term multiplied by some proportional value, maybe we could use an integrator to add a predictive element to the system, or a differentiator to control extended slow-moving processes. But that's all just a hypothetical madman's dream, truly controlling the temperature of something is impossible. Maybe one day we'll be able to do this but until then we can only... dream of sushi.
I'm gonna need a cry break, you asshole.

[Anonymous No.9132012]

>>9131154
>allow your traditions to degrade
>wonder why western culture and society has degraded

[Anonymous No.9132052]

>>9131154
>attaining perfection
RRREEEEEE why are they making things so difficult????

[Anonymous No.9132105]

>>9132052

That's the nature of chasing perfection. Any chef, artist, etc, will tell you the same thing regardless of nationality. You can strive to get ever closer, but "perfect" is something you will never achieve. It's about the journey, not the final destination.

[Anonymous No.9132156]

>>9130853
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.9132175]

>>9131104

[Anonymous No.9132179]

>>9131246
How about the examples about Japan conquering your shitty nation?

[Anonymous No.9132186]

>>9131385
Yes
>>9131396
>Things that are things don't exist
Okay buddy, there's an al/ck/ thread you should be posting in.

[Anonymous No.9132204]

>>9132186
I don't drink alcoholic beverages. What will be your next wild stab in the dark at insulting me to try and make me seem wrong?

[Anonymous No.9132227]

This is what happens when humans would rather be at a dirt rally lifted pickup fuck fest, or a quiet arboric dinner.

You have fucking savages everywhere, and you have the japanese who have civilized.

[Anonymous No.9132229]

>>9132204

[Anonymous No.9132239]

>>9132227

Do any of you people respect drunk rednecks who can't support themselves, fuck their immediate family and wake up wondering what happened last night? Or someone who spends their entire life perfecting a flavour that's almost imposssible to attain unless you're an autistic obsessive? Sister fuckers over singular professionals. PICK.

[Anonymous No.9132245]

wa la

[Anonymous No.9132252]

This is a guy who was a complete fuck up his entire life and chose a profession and probably became the best in the world at it.

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/ivan-ramen-new-york

That's a self admitted moron who figured it out.

[Anonymous No.9132255]

>>9132239
To be honest, my sister is pretty fuckin hot, and I drive a lifted SUV with mud tars.

[Anonymous No.9132261]

>>9132255

You people exist, but.. you know, who'd what to be that? You can exist, but no one wants to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.9132279]

>>9132261
I don't even have a sister. I got a brother, but he's a fat nerd.

[Anonymous No.9132294]

I guess you guys need the Asian Tutorial. You need to learn traditional japanese, Chinese Szechan, Chinese Cantonese, Thai, Vietnamese etc.

This is one chinese cook going againts the chinese food governing body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEB2WkmU6HI

[Anonymous No.9132307]

Not one of you on a japanese website has made sushi rish, have you? You don't have a fan, you don't have mirin.

[Anonymous No.9132313]

>>9132307

Rice. Spiced or not, it's just foreign crap?

[Anonymous No.9132320]

>>9132307

Sushi rice has nothing to do with mirin. Did you confuse mirin and vinegar again, o mighty chef?

[Anonymous No.9132323]

wwa la

[Anonymous No.9132326]

>>9132323

You keep typing that like you're drunk. Are you trying to keep a beat?

[Anonymous No.9132464]

>>9130994
>culinary arts
holy shit you're a colossal faggot. it is literally raw fish on rice, there's a level of skill needed to make it, yeah, but you act as if it's anything more than that.

[Anonymous No.9132484]

>>9132464

Just like your economic life, you need to start filtering human life away from you. Human garbage is going to start existing below you. You're going to have to get used to human garbage being a real thing.

[Anonymous No.9132485]

>>9132464

You need to learn you're human garbage. Just get used to it. You're a human error.

[Anonymous No.9132490]

>>9132464
"culinary arts" is simply a term for "cooking" anon. Don't let it sperg you out because it involves the word "art".

>>playing sports is easy, it's just throwing a ball around.
>>music is easy, you just press some buttons or strings on an instrument

This is how retarded you sound. Like any other field the basics of cooking are simple but mastering it is challenging. Some people are OK with simple (and there's nothing wrong with that), while other people strive to take it to a higher level.

[Anonymous No.9132494]

>>9132464

at least you figured out that you're a depressing human gimp. don't engage real people ever again. stay in your cave.

[Anonymous No.9132533]

I like sushi and all but places like this are bullshit. Sushi itself is good food. I just wish we didn't have people like this who pretend that they can charge 300-500 USD for it based on quality alone, when anyone can buy quality seafood in the area. Don't even get me started them saying the technique takes years to get right. The difference between a sushi chef after a month and after ten years is negligible. At best this is just a one time experience to show off how much money you have.

[Anonymous No.9132546]

>>9132533

I like baseball and all, but pro leagues like this are bullshit. Baseball by itself is a fun game. I just wish we didn't have pro athletes that get paid thousands of dollars a game for it to be based on their skill because anyone can throw & hit a ball. Don't even get me started saying they are skilled. The difference between a baseball player after practicing for a month and after ten years is negligible. At best this is just an experience to show off how much money you have.

[Anonymous No.9132585]

>>9130853
Gud sliced fish

[Anonymous No.9132705]

wa la

[Anonymous No.9132790]

>>9130953
Isn't that the guy who created Gundam?

[Anonymous No.9132872]

>>9131033
>ceviche
>anything tartar
you don't have to heat something up to be a chef

[Anonymous No.9132896]

High quality sushi is very very different from the regular shit you get at your local sushi bar, but I feel like there's an incredibly small diminishing return between High Grade Chef A and Jiro

[Anonymous No.9133043]

>>9130862
So much passive aggressive angst in one post holy shit.

[Anonymous No.9133073]

>>9130853
Because people will pay the price he asks.. It's called business laddy

[Anonymous No.9133081]

>>9132484
>>9132485
>>9132494
>tfw you will never attain this high a level of pure boiling autistic rage defending a slanty-eyed shyster who charges gullible and pretentious retards hundreds of dollars to eat raw fish on globs of rice that he doesn't even make himself and passes it off as some kind of masterful artform because you think doing so makes you seem cultured and intelligent

[Anonymous No.9133086]

>>9130862
This is one of the purest distillations of /pol/ Ive ever seen. Just add something about how women won't fuck you because of a liberal conspiracy and you're golden.

[Anonymous No.9133377]

>>9130853
Like any intelligent, forward thinking citizens of the 21st century, my wife and I are feminists. And like any feminists we were shocked and disgusted by this movie.

Both the main character (Jiro) AND the narrator are male! If alarms aren't going off in your head so far you're probably a bigot. Things became more and more repulsive as the movie played on. All of the supporting characters are male! And even worse, almost every single character in the movie is male!

I don't care if this is a documentary. My wife left the room in tears at the end of the first hour during a particularly sickening scene where Jiro serves a room full of customers. He says (not an exact quote) "I made the meals smaller for the women and larger for the men so that everyone would finish at the same time." Things like this would be expected in a film about Adolf Hitler or Winston Churchill (both disgusting sexist pigs)but in a movie about food it was just chilling. And that wasn't even the worst part! The women in the room appeared (probably special effects or movie magic of some type) TO APPROVE OF THIS. Can you believe that?

My wife won't talk about it and I'm not sure I could if I wanted to. I finished the movie with tears in my bloodshot eyes. I can't believe we've advanced so far as a society and women are still seen as being gutter scum.

Anyone forward thinking enough to simply be on the internet, to find this movie, to read this review, will be disgusted by the brutally sexist assault on your senses and common decency this movie has gotten away with.

[Anonymous No.9133520]

>>9133081
>he's never been out of his flyover state and learned that good sushi is about the price of macca's and a sixpack of coors

[Anonymous No.9133524]

>>9130966
The irony of this is lost to time.

Way back in history rice had two major markets. Rice for eating and rice for sake. Problem was that there was a mushy high alcoholic rice left over from making sake that was not really wanted. This alcoholic slug rice found use in food preservation, namely in meat. To keep it together it was contained in a seaweed strands for easy handling. These rolls would be sold by many traveling stands as they contained low cost ingredients and travelers could unroll them and cook the meat later to extend the self life.

This early form of sushi was essentially cheap meat in a zip-lock bag made of alcoholic rice and seaweed leaves sold at countless cheap restaurants along the roadways.

So Sushi started as ancient japans version of the Big Mac in a grab and go Zip-lock bag. Of course at some point some idiot just ate the whole thing and realized it was good, probably didn't hurt that the rice had enough alcohol to get peasants hammered with if they ate enough of them.

Something something something .... time passes, several versions and changes happened.

One of the newer forms of Sushi was for the rich nobles with an expensive sweet rice (without alcohol), made with skillfully clean and fresh fish meat and fully pulped seaweed paper for a nicer texture and constancy. This require skills to make properly.

In sort the history of food is the history of marketing, status and available resources.
Even to day sushi is a fast food in Japan.

[Anonymous No.9133584]

>>9133524
eh, the rice in traditional narezushi was normal cooked rice rather than sake lees, was always intended to be eaten with it (rice has always been an important part of japanese pickling), and the entire thing was intended to be eaten uncooked (compare western foods like pickled herring.)

you're right that it's traditional fast food though.

[Anonymous No.9133609]

>>9133520
Ah, yes. NYC--the epitome of flyover states. Well done, lad.

[Anonymous No.9133615]

>>9133609
oh, you must be the guy keeping guy fieri's place in times square in business

[Anonymous No.9133665]

>>9133524
that's precisely why I think charging $300 for it fucking insane

[Anonymous No.9133732]

>>9133377
Nice, very impressive.

[Anonymous No.9133735]

>>9133377
>forward thinking
Stopped there. You should just say millennial trash, it's more accurate, Hillary voter.

[Anonymous No.9133737]

Sushi is literally the biggest meme on planet earth. It's fucking disgusting. Nobody actually likes it.

[Anonymous No.9133757]

>>9133665
While I think $300 is a bit much, and far more then I would ever pay. I have to admit it is not as ridiculous as it sounds.

Me and my Dad cook really good BBQ, so good that many say we beat out the best in the biz and need to open shop. I had $60 ribs that tasted decent, but given I can cook something 3 or 4 times as good for $30 it seems like a no brainier. Till I stop and realize how long it takes me to cook them, 4 hours minimum with constant monitoring. That means I would be making below minimum in many scenarios. Something like $30 cost + ($10*4 labor)=$70 for my rack of ribs. Scaling and other things would bring it down which makes those $60 ribs seem reasonable given everything that goes into them, which is why I still buy them a few times a year as they are not bad.

Now if I was a world renowned sushi chef who recognized the cost and value I made, I could see dishes easily going for $150+. While that still is not $300, I don't know enough details of the market to price it that accurately but would not be surprised if some unknown elements brought it much closer to that $300 price tag.

>>9133737
I like it, I know some cheap places to get it near me. A $6 place that is decent and a $10 place that is really good. Oh, and a renowned $40 place I hated, I think the fancy interior decorating there is where all their effort went given the food was like $8 in quality compared to others.

[Anonymous No.9133776]

>>9133757
>unknown elements
yea pretentious chef mystique

[Anonymous No.9133790]

>>9130862

This is why you're a virgin

[Anonymous No.9133799]

>>9133735
Fuck off back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.9133835]

>Will slice your head off clean with a katana if you ask him for a california roll because you dishonored his sushi skills and are a hwaitto piggu gaijin

Why are white people so enchanted by Japanese people when they're just slant eyed arabs?

Is it because Japan has no Crude Oil?

[Anonymous No.9133873]

>>9130862
i've felt that way before. i respect your feelings. god bless you, anon.

[Anonymous No.9133881]

>>9130862
The only thing you missed was crying about how unfuckable you are because women are mean.

[Anonymous No.9133908]

>>9133377
>you're probably a bigot.

You need to be more subtle.

[Anonymous No.9134624]

>>9131117
>tfw asian and wanted to be a race car driver when i grew up

[Anonymous No.9134654]

>>9132790
Made me laugh

[Anonymous No.9134678]

>>9130979
>the terrible realization that I've been here since 2004
>in the time I've spent here I could have mastered several languages, honed a skill to mastery, or any number of useful or self-enriching things
>instead I masturbate, browse, and shitpost day after day

Fuck, it just got too real for me.

[Anonymous No.9134778]

>>9130862
B-but didn't the j oh ohs discover penicillin?

[Anonymous No.9134786]

>>9133377
Kek

[Anonymous No.9134813]

So... why does Jiro dream of sushi? Was it autism?

[Anonymous No.9134872]

>>9134813

You know how Carver, Thatcher, Weaver, Baker, Cooper etc became surnames in England? It's because they had hundreds of years of peasants doing the same job in the same family. Same thing in Japan. The tradition makes them proud of the skill. So they get pretty good at it and want their kids to get pretty good at it.

[Anonymous No.9134897]

wa la

[Anonymous No.9134902]

its a really interesting little documentary but jiro seems like an asshole to be quite honest with you family

[Anonymous No.9134966]

>>9133524
>Even to day sushi is a fast food in Japan

stick to mcdonalds amerifat! Eat a dozen mcdoubles and you will feel happier!

[Anonymous No.9134968]

>>9132464
Stick to mcdonalds my amerilard friend, your entire culture is literally meat on bread

[Anonymous No.9134993]

Why the fuck would you go for sushi when you can get ramen, cha-han, or gyoza.

You only go for sushi if you want to impress your fucking boss. Or some dumb bitch you want to fuck.

[Anonymous No.9135007]

>>9134993

the head chefs of most tokyo hotels are chinese szechuan or chinese cantonese cooks. They know their cuisine is boring/subtle. They get these fuckers in to spice it up.

[Anonymous No.9135027]

>>9135007
These chink-fucks know how to use a wok properly.

[Anonymous No.9135031]

>>9135027

They fucking do, they really do. That and chilis and sweet shit. Those motherfuckers are the kings of food.

[Anonymous No.9135040]

>>9135031
And that's why everybody in the world is getting fat as fuck off of good Chinese food.

[Anonymous No.9135049]

>>9135040

Give me a vat of chicken fried rice or sweet and sour pork. I will die on that hill. I watched Ken Kinichi cook pork and pineapple for Iron Chef. I'd eat the living shit out of that.

[Anonymous No.9135054]

>>9135040

I have a perfect Singapore Noodles recipe that I think is proper szechuan.

[Anonymous No.9135064]

>>9135054
>proper szechuan

Nigga, nobody refuses that shit.

[Anonymous No.9135068]

>>9135064

They really don't. Best food on the planet.

Remember I'm a white guy

¾ of a vermicelli container

3 eggs beaten with 2 shakes of curry powder and some pepper cook first with some oil

½ cup red bell pepper
½ cup onion sliced

4 tbsp olive oil
1 to 2 tbsp of chili sauce
1 tbsp curry powder
1tsp garlic powder
1tsp turmeric
1tsp ginger
2tbsp soy sauce

cook eggs first and reserve
put oil mixture in hot pan and stirfy veg
add vermicelli and mix
add eggs

[Anonymous No.9135196]

>>9134678
listen, who cares? we all die at the end of the metaphorical day anyways. this shit don't matter, do what makes you happy

[Anonymous No.9135521]

>ask to a sushi chef with alzheimer anything

[Anonymous No.9135567]

>>9130862
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9135603]

>>9133377
Try harder.

Also, dubbs and trips checked.

[Anonymous No.9135642]

>>9130853
>Oversimplify anything so it sounds retarded
Fuck /ck/ and the rest of 4chan for being such fucking dense retards in name of contrarianism
>ALL HE DOES IS COOK THE FLESH OF A DEAD COW WITH A VEGETABLE WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
>ALL HE DOES IS PUT TOMATO SAUCE ON UNCOOKED DOUGH WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
>>9130862
and here we have the average wanna be /pol/tard, most likely from Reddit, making mountains out of fucking molehills instead of focusing on something sjw's actually and not stupid menial shit they attone to through their victim complex from being white
Being white on 4chan is becoming the new being a fucking nigger because you always bitch about things that never happen
You aren't being personally attacked because a sushi chef exists you fucking idiot