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9040705 No.9040705 [Reply] [Original]

some people have no shame

>> No.9040708

>reduces portioning while increasing prices
>let's blame the young people!
BWW can get fucked.

>> No.9040712

>>9040705
Let all those establishments burn to the ground.

>> No.9040722

>>9040705
If a chain is failing its the chains fault.
No one is obligated to eat there

>> No.9040725
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9040725

Let em die, its their fault for not having a drive thru to fit my young, meme friendly and fast paced lyfestyle

>> No.9040727

>>9040705
shame doesn't have shit to do with it
you're thread is bad, and you should feel bad

>> No.9040730

>>9040705
Good. Fuck chain restaurants. Flyovers will surely weep, though.

>> No.9040731

>>9040705
How insulting can you get?
I once read a verge article blaming iPhone owners for the iPhone 6's slowing sales due to "users failing to upgrade".

>> No.9040733

>>9040705
Any good business knows it has to attract customers, not the other way around.

>> No.9040736
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9040736

There's only one form of fast food chicken we millenials will gladly buy.

>> No.9040737

>>9040727
i literally just typed whatever random phrase i thought of first in the text box.

>> No.9040746

>>9040737
Then you need what you're about to get.

>> No.9040749

>>9040737
You must have no shame

>> No.9040756

>>9040705

"Casual dining"? Is that some kind of industry codeword for "shitty restaurant"?

>> No.9040774

>>9040756
It basically means "slightly better than fast food, at twice the price"

>> No.9040775

So people are eating out more than ever. The generation eating out more than any other are millennials. Apparently they aren't going to fast food chains, nor fast casual since Chipotle's stock went down nor evidently casual dining. So where are they going? Local restaurants owned by real people instead of conglomerates? Oh the humanity! We can't have the big corporations that boomers and Xers worked so hard to make rich disappear. Everything must remain the same. Forever.

I mean I know the article is meant to be circulated among middle ages and old people to bash millennials but how can anyone think a chain dying is a cause for sorrow if the industry keeps doing well.

>> No.9040779

>>9040756
Yes. The media considers it bad that millennial like going to nice local restaurants instead of bad chains because they cannot write an article about some local restaurant that most of their readership has never heard of, so they write from the angle of "casual chains" because everyone knows what they are

>> No.9040786

>>9040775
>nor fast casual since Chipotle's stock went down
Eh, thats just people shifting from one fast casual to another because of bad press, millenials are dramatically more likely to pick fast casual over fast food compared to previous generations, and likewise more likely to pick local restaurants over national chains than older people. Old people fucking love terrible national chains for some reason

>> No.9040795

>>9040786
Who's the contender? I don't think it has been replaced. At least not by a national level chain anyway.

>> No.9040798
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9040798

Maybe they should install those futon couches and actually feed me by hand. That'd be interesting, I'd probably pay for that to be done to me once. I doubt I'd make it a habit though, seems like a hassle to go out and degrade waitresses daily.

>> No.9040799

>>9040775
It's kind of a double sided coin man. It takes a lot of money to get an upstart restaurant up and running. Then you have to coin out for all your staff and bills.

Corps have shit food, like Buffalo WW...it's garbage. But they have the money for a crew of people to cook and serve you.

Where's the equilibrium?

>> No.9040803

>>9040705
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING MILENIALS
>WHY WON'T YOU BUY MY SHITTY FOOD SO I STAY RICH?
>I DESERVE YOUR MONEY! BOOTSTRAPS! BOOTSTRAPS!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
t. Boomer restaurant chain owners

>> No.9040806

>>9040795
Its just a general shift from Chipotle to other restaurants of its same class because of bad press last year. just dumb wall street stuff really

>> No.9040815

>write article about actual economic phenomenon that is at best tenuously tied to gen y/z consumption habits
>give it a DUDE MILLENIALS LMAO title
>84 million hits within 17 hours

""""""""""journalism""""""""""

>> No.9040826

>>9040799
I think eventually the corps will start establishing and owning a lot of these local restaurants. Chefs may even be on their direct payroll. So you recruit chefs from culinary schools directly and when someone wants to open up a "franchise" you send a chef and a decorator there to set up an idyllic local gem. Once it's set up the corporation sends it's own staff and supply chain expert to source some local ingredients and national supply chains for common ingredients. There you have it, a restaurant that young people go to and brag about having the best X. A steady cheap supply chain. People paying high rates. No staff shortages, no strongarming by the landowner. Everyone's happy.

>> No.9040830

>>9040826
As long as the food is better than Applebees and Olive Garden, we all win

>> No.9040834

Why eat at a "casual dining" place when they all serve the same sysco garbage and don't even cook their own food?
Even something as simple as soups are brought in and reheated, they don't cook, they only reheat.
Who wants to pay for that?

>> No.9040836

>>9040826
I think you know nothing about how the food industry works

>> No.9040837

Is this even news? I grew up in a flyover and my friends and I never really stopped in trash chains like the ones in the article. The closest we got were occasional trips to IHOP because everywhere else closed by 9. Local restaurants were always better and were actually interesting.

>> No.9040840

>>9040705
>CEO Sally Smith
>challenging to sell overpriced wings to mouth breather retards

Lol women

Lol

>> No.9040841

>>9040830
I have no idea how Olive Garden gets away with their prices. They charge as much as some lower-end michelin starred establishments for really crappy food. Either their business model is really inefficient (since the place is always packed too), or they are the richest fuckers on the planet.

>>9040836
I really don't. This was just my idea of how the market forces would react to chains losing customers and the glut of culinary school students recently. Care to explain where I'm wrong.

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>>9040834
You know I was thinking about this.
Rather than supplying restaurants, why the hell doesn't Sysco and other suppliers just open up public cafeterias and automats like they had in the olden days?

I kind of love the retro sci-fi aesthetic of institutional food and MREs

>> No.9040848

>>9040844
lol no one's paying for a prison style experience of food apart from maybe a one off novelty in a tourist heavy city.

>> No.9040852

>yet another article blaming Millenials for something

>> No.9040855

>>9040837
This. BWW would only be a stop on some roadtrip if we were hungry and had some extra cash because BWW is a fucking ripoff.

Local places are typically better but sometimes suck. The nice thing about chains is you ALWAYS know you're getting the same thing. I got a Big Mac in Germany once just to see if it tasted like an American one. I couldn't taste any difference whatsoever.

>> No.9040857

>>9040844
sysco can deal in food preparation without the insane overhead of owning and maintaining restaurants
They also have lots of lucrative deals with american university campuses to force every on-campus dorm dweller to purchase prepaid meal plans, and they supplement this by making dorm living mandatory and they also ban stoves or hot plates within dorms.

>> No.9040859

Millenials don't have any money. Why are people surprised?

>> No.9040862

>>9040837
Real restaurants are better and the staff act like real people.

>> No.9040865

>>9040857
>They also have lots of lucrative deals with american university campuses to force every on-campus dorm dweller to purchase prepaid meal plans, and they supplement this by making dorm living mandatory and they also ban stoves or hot plates within dorms.
I've always wondered, how is this legal. Is this one of those things that once a law is passed against it in a few years we'll wonder how we ever allowed it to happen.

>> No.9040870

>>9040865
>how is this legal
Two businesses making a business deal that doesn't involve mergering in a concentrated market is rarely illegal

>> No.9040883

>>9040870
Limiting an adult students freedom of choice in where he lives and what he eats doesn't seem right to me. A college could definitely decide what food they serve but how can they effectively coerce a student into eating it.

>> No.9040885

>>9040859
Because we just gotta pull ourselves up by the bootstraps! Fucking boomers, I've never seen a group of people exhibit magical thinking to such an extent outside of legitimately insane people. At least one 64-year-old co-worker understands just how fucked things are for people born after 1980, he's probably my best work friend.

>> No.9040899

>>9040883
I see what you meant now. That practice is fairly universal. Even at my college they had a deal with the food service that they could be the only food service on campus and everyone is required to have some kind of meal plan. I got the least expensive one and cooked as much as possible.

I loved those $15 bowls of cereal. I think I had 30 or so meals left by the end of the year out of 150.

Honestly it's a shitty situation but you're paying to go there and the college has all the money and the authority to kick you out. Who do you think is going to win that fight?

>> No.9040915

>>9040899
the shapeshifting lizard jews

>> No.9040921

>>9040899
I think it's a rights issue. A lawyer stands to make good money by fighting a case against the school where they were curtailing the rights of students. Sadly I don't know enough about law to know if the case has any basis.

>> No.9040923

>>9040915
I thought they were alien shapeshifting lizard jews.

Anyway, everyone agreed the situation was bullshit and the college paper issued articles about how bullshit it was every so often but the administration wouldn't budge an inch.

>> No.9040925

>Go to chain restaurant.
>Lets call it Texas Streetbungalo.
>Have to wait a half hour in a stuffy, loud as fuck "restaurant" waiting for a table.
>Finally get one, the table is still dirty.
>Screaming children are only drowned out by clapping as the staff lines up behind my booth and fucking line dances and kicks the wall next to me.
>Order steak rare, get it well done because "It's a wood fired grill."
>Kid is throwing wet peanut shells at my food.
>The hamplanet that created this thing gets upset when I complain to the staff about this bullshit.

>> No.9040927

>>9040921
I doubt it could be considered a rights issue, considering you knowingly sign a contract to be the college's student and all that that implies.

But I also have no legal training so what do I know.

>> No.9040928

>>9040925
Sounds like someone went to Texas Roadhouse. I always get sick when I go there because their portion sizes and the sheer amount of food they give you for free is huge.

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9040934

>>9040705
WTF I hate millenials now.

>> No.9040936

There has been one restaurant I've been to where I was blown away by the quality of the food. It stood out so obviously that I realized all the restaurants that I had considered to be "great" were really just average.

Granted this place was basically suite and tie dining and your bill would probably be three digits if you had a date but goddamn if it didn't deliver. Not a chain, obviously. I'm thinking about their steak right now...I need a moment.

>> No.9040944

>>9040756
>fast food quality
>either 50 tvs or zany garage sale shit hanging on the walls
>screaming kids
>screaming parents
>entitled teenage servers (the type you usually find in the tipping threads around here)
they can't die soon enough

>> No.9040954

>>9040708
This entirely.

>> No.9040968

>>9040921
Basically the only way such a claim would ever be cost-effective enough to look into, given the relatively high unlikelihood of success and also as the only avenue I can think of is through an antitrust claim. Idk if there's enough colleges using just Sysco for it to be viable, but if there was this could be massive. Only problem is who files it, it would have to be a class action, and since it would also be expensive as fuck and a long shot, it's not surprising the answer so far is no one. But thanks for the information anon that was very interesting, I'm going to look more into this.

>> No.9040978

>>9040795
Willys, moes, other smaller burrito places exist too

>> No.9041027

>>9040736
For me this is the only choice
>T.millennial

>> No.9041033

>>9040795
>>9040978
I'm guessing food trucks too

>> No.9041035

>>9040705

>>be a company
>>make money by providing a service or product
>>bitch and complain about people not wanting your service or product

what are we supposed to do? just give you our money?

>> No.9041047

BWW is still like 15 wings for 10$ right?

>> No.9041048

>>9040708
It's the democrats' fault for making the labor of fresh-out-of-prison cooks the same as new undergrads while leaving the franchise starters a $1 an hour for their risk after taxes fault

Hang democrats

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>>9040705
Friggin Millenialz! What will they ruin next? Wallmart? The Tv? Phone Books? Horse Carriages? Crossbows?

>> No.9041077

>>9040841
Millenials don't want a major corporation's market tested homogenous idea of what an authentic experience is, they want an authentic experience.

>> No.9041082

>>9041048
The price of freedom
Enjoy that, 3rd worlders

>> No.9041100

>>9040705
There are hundreds of locally owned restaurants in my city. Why the fuck would I go to some dumpster like Applebee's when I can go somewhere new and different every fucking night?

>> No.9041119

>>9040921
>>9040927
>>9040968
State universities receive some funding from the state and federal government. That's your legal in.

>> No.9041142

>>9040708
Is this is true then this 100%

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>>9040705

>> No.9041175

>>9040705
>BWW CEO/co-founder leaves
>Stock plummets
>THIS IS THE KIDS' FAULT! REEEEE

>> No.9041217

casual dining is just a dying meme like shopping malls and landline phones. the food is not any better than fast food, you wait half an hour for it, pay twice as much, and have to tip.

>> No.9041275

>>9041048
BULLSHIT
fuck libshits but unless you have a source with some actual numbers you're just making excuses for a shitty failing business that's failing for being shit.

>> No.9041288

>>9040799
>kind of a double sided coin
Like every coin.

Anyway your only point seems to be that shitty chains have the money to throw at putting up even more shitty chains while local small business restaurants are high-risk for their owners.
That's not actually really an argument for chains, they're still shit and not worth the money and even if they're more able to absorb losses they're failing overall compared to local competition.

>> No.9041297

i hope buffalo wild wings burns. fucking garbage excuse for a restaurant

>> No.9041298

>>9040815
Can't go wrong blaming the newest generation.

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>>9041298

>> No.9041343

>>9040705
Applebees died because it fucking sucks, that is the free market.

Can we put Boomers in homes already?

>> No.9041359

>>9040944
>teenage servers
Lol this isnt a thing in new york (manhattan, brooklyn). 99% of servers here are at least 21 due to experience requirements here.

>> No.9041363

>>9040826
>recruit chefs from culinary schools
Lol. Culinary school=unemployment welfare queen or NEET. nobody hires those morons

>> No.9041380

>>9040798
>Posts anime
>Wants to be taken seriously when they state they want to be fed by hand

OK Man-child.

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>>9040899
>$15 bowls of cereal
Please tell me that isn't exactly what it sounds like.

>> No.9041459

>>9041380
>someone suggests an absurd scenario
>takes it at complete face value
>REEEE ANIME
Aspergers, much?

>> No.9041461

>>9041380
>believes everything he reads and falls for every bait on 4chan
>wants to be taken seriously when they reply
Ok summerfag

>> No.9041462

>>9041380
Dude chill man it was just a shitpost

>> No.9041463

>>9041047
Holy fuck what a ripoff, I can get more chicken per dollar at McDonald's

>> No.9041466

>>9041380
>hates something
>replies to it
Upvoted

>> No.9041467

>>9041055
>Did millenials kill handcranked crossbows with wooden stocks?

>> No.9041469

>>9041458
It would depend on the school cafeteria. In the 3 universities I've attended each meal can cost on average about $10 in the meal plan, but if you get in you can choose a variety of entrees and eat as much as you can stuff yourself. Specifically for breakfast they would have eggs, bacon/sausage, fired potatoes, and fruits in addition to cereal, and of course, you can eat as much as you want.

Technically a bowl of cereal would cost $10 if you just get a bowl a cereal and voluntarily choose to get nothing else. However I do not know of any school shitty enough to charge $15 for just a bowl a cereal.

>> No.9041471

>>9041307
I can't even tell if that's genuine or an antique shitpost.

>> No.9041479
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>>9041467
Back in my day we had the arbalest and we were damn happy to have one!

>> No.9041486

>>9041217
Amen

>> No.9041492

>>9040775
we mustn't forget that corporations are people now. we can't hurt their feelings :,/

>> No.9041550

>>9041035
uhhh...
fucking entitled millenials

>> No.9041562

>>9041359
New York really is a shitstain if that's true.

>> No.9041565

>>9040921
there's no rights basis. the school is selling you a product which includes room and board, you don't have the arbitrary right to declare that you only want parts of the product just because they're giving you an itemized bill.

>>9041119
that gives the government an in to pass laws restricting funding to schools which do this, if they want to, but american government is forty years now down the "public college is for dirty commies, tear them down" path - which is exactly why the nearly-free education your parents got is now covered in shitty fees and mandatory kickbacks.

>> No.9041570

>>9041565
>but american government is forty years now down the "public college is for dirty commies, tear them down" path
No it isn't. It's gotten bigger and bigger and more expensive to boot.

>> No.9041571

>>9040736
speak for yourself, loser.

>> No.9041579

>>9041570
>bigger
slower growth rate than the population
>more expensive
exactly my point, the services that used to be tax-funded or run at cost are now contracted out - it costs the students more money, it doesn't save the state anything, it's just there to punish plebs and enrich donors

>> No.9041589

Could you imagine being a shareholder and getting an excuse like this from the CEO of why sales are down?

>> No.9041593

>>9041579
Nah that's bullshit. Federal funding is what's caused the explosion in prices.

>> No.9041600

>>9040705
I think the reduction in the family unit would play some part in this but at the same time these restaurants can't complain if they fail to adapt to changing demographics.

You need to evolve or you become extinct.

>> No.9041617

>>9041359
>entry level easy job
>need experience
>can't get experience in entry level job because of experience needed
Well, that's dumb.

>> No.9041622

>wahhh they figured out we're selling tv dinners for $12 a plate

>> No.9041626

wtf i love millennials now

>> No.9041638

>>9041593
No. See >>9040857

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>>9040705
>Killing bland overpriced chains reheating SysCo meals
There's another fringe benefit to cooking at home that will bring a smile to my face when I do my mise en place later.

>> No.9041656

>read thread
>apparently in america some restaurants serve partially pre-made food
did i get that right? i'm hoping i misread something. who are these sysco? people in this thread are talking about them as if they aren't just regular food suppliers that ship ingredients to restaurants.

>> No.9041658

is anything safe from millennials?

>> No.9041662

>>9041656
>who are these sysco?

They're the largest company that distributes ingredients to restaurants. However, the issue is that they sell cheap ingredients, not the good stuff. It's no different than shopping at Wal-Mart instead of a farmer's market and a proper butcher.

A good restaurant will source their ingredients with a focus on quality. If a restaurant buys from sysco it's a clear indication that they care about convenience more than they care about quality.

>> No.9041664

>>9041658
Hide yo' TGIF, hide yo' Chili's, hide yo' Applebee's cuz they all gettin raped out here.

>> No.9041672

>>9040705
>the free market is working

>> No.9041676

>>9040705
This doesn't surprise me desu.

Millennials are the shittiest people ever.

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9041712

It really doesn't matter...

'Merican Millenials are all fucked by college debt & then the US National debt.

THANKS OBAMA!

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>>9041712
>It really doesn't matter...
>'Merican Millenials are all fucked by college debt & then the US National debt.
>THANKS OBAMA!

>> No.9041732

>>9041731
>Money spent for wars
>Money spent to bail out corporate entities that will later turn around and go "what bailout?"

I hope it was worth it.

>> No.9041746

>>9040885
>yeah it's not me and my $100k student loan Art Degree
>it's boomers fault!!!
Fucking retards

>> No.9041767

>>9041746
Not really defending it, but it doesn't help that literally everyone tells you you're going to be a failure if you don't go to college. Not everyone should go, but no one tells you that when you're a kid, so you end up going just because that's "what you're supposed to do". Wa la, here's your stupid fucking degree and a pile of debt

>> No.9041768

>>9040705
nowdays i would rather have a porn site subscription than a girlfriend or friends
Why would i go there? who would itake? my laptop?

>> No.9041775

>>9041712

WTF? your Obama spent, what, 10 TRILLION fucking dollars in his term?

>> No.9041780

>>9041767
>being so absolutely retarded that you fall for an obvious scam
>i-its the scammers fault for my stupidity!

>> No.9041783

>>9041767
The problem is if you're dumb a degree really doesn't help you. The issue here is low talent people with degrees complaining that their degrees do nothing for them when in fact they were never going to amount to anything in the first place.

>> No.9041785

>>9041780
Higher education isn't an "obvious scam", ya retard

>> No.9041788

>>9040775
>move out
>live near mcdonalds
>end up eating shitty mcdonalds way too often because its open 24 hours
>get so fucking disgusted by mcdonalds progressive policies that i learned to cook just to never spend a dollar there again
>i even buy my meat at the butcher, my vegetables and fruits at the fruit store and everything else at the small grocery store nearby because fuck supermarkets too
>only ever step foot in that shithole if htey have some big sale on candy

>> No.9041811

>>9041785
>average tradesman makes more money than your average non-stem degree holder
Wow really makes you think, the head of UT just went on damage control the other day when confronted that more people are realizing trades are a better than most uni ventures.

>inb4 tradeshill
Not even a tradesman

>> No.9041823

>>9040708
Let's not forget absolutely mediocre food

>> No.9041826

>>9041811
Ok, that doesn't make college a scam. It's just not for everyone and some people have to find that out the hard way

>> No.9041831

>>9041826
>Ok, that doesn't make college a scam

American colleges are an absolute scam.

We've hired plenty of blacks from 'merican Unis who have degrees but can't fucking spell or do simple math.

Your college "degrees" are worthless pieces of feel good paper.

>> No.9041832

>>9041641
>>9040834
>>9040844
>>9040857
>>9040968
Sysco?

They sound like they make terminators.

>> No.9041834

>>9041780
Do you honestly think that a 17/18 year old isn't going to do what literally 90% of adults reccomend they do if they want to have a job? It's not like they have the life experience to make a more educated decision, and they generally don't have more than a year to really make a solid decision. Most people go to college because they don't know what else to do after highschool.

>> No.9041845

>>9041831
>We've hired plenty of blacks from 'merican Unis who have degrees but can't fucking spell or do simple math.

That's called "Affirmative Action" and that's why you don't hire American blacks except to fill quotas.

>> No.9041849

>>9041775
Executive branch doesn't spend, you ignorant fuck. The people that became naturalized citizens today literally know more than you about your own fucking country.

>> No.9041851

>>9041831
Do companies hire self-taught engineers now?

>> No.9041862

>>9040705
If im going to a sit down restaurant its either a local sports bar or a local ethnic place. Very rarely do i go to chains, just olive garden sometimes for the soup salad and breadsticks, also the entrees are shit at olive garden.

>> No.9041864

>>9041849
>Executive branch doesn't spend

Perhaps not directly, but they do enact policies which result in spending.

Not to mention that nearly everything they do ends up costing a ton of money. President goes to visit a foreign leader? That costs millions of dollars...

>> No.9041865

>>9041851
What part of "non-stem" did you not understand?

>> No.9041866

>>9041851
>Do companies hire self-taught engineers now?

You'll have to pass a coding test then, which can be very difficult... otherwise no way to prove what you say you're capable of

>> No.9041876

>>9041849

t.American who doesn't understand his own government spending

lol

Please be more of a stereotype

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>>9041712

10 Trillion in 8 years.

That nigga made it rain.

>> No.9041884

>>9041865
Okay, teachers

>> No.9041906

>>9041884
>becoming a teacher
>ever
My mother makes as much as public school teacher if not more and she doesn't have any degree. The only people that actually want to become teachers are those that have a passion for it because they go into it knowing it pays terribly

>> No.9041932

>>9041906
>knowing it pays terribly

Chicago tenured teachers make over $110 annually. The average Union teacher earns $87k.

This is not even counting the Pension that they will be receiving, on the backs of Chicago tax payers.

Why the fuck do you think Illionis debt got downgraded to junk? We're all fucked over here.

>> No.9041935

>>9041932

And don't listen to the BS when the Union throws out something like 47k starting... they don't even stay at that salary for a year before they start getting massive pay steps.

>> No.9041959

>>9041845
That's incorrect. Affirmative Action may get you in the door, but it doesn't get you good grades. That's a symptom of one of the most corrupt institutions in the US, the NCAA. Pretending to pay athletes with classes that they never attend but get As in. It's disgusting.

>> No.9041965

If I'm gonna pay more than a dollar for a value menu stomach twister, I might as well cook my own damn food.

>> No.9041978

>>9041932
chicago public school system spends the most money per student out of any other public school last time i checked. its not the norm

>> No.9041981
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9041981

>>9041876
"But according to Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution, "No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law." Ultimately, then, the executive branch cannot spend a dime that has not been voted on by the U.S. Congress.

https://web.stanford.edu/~andrsn/dallas.html

>mfw US citizens can't pass the citizenship exam

>> No.9042006

>>9040705
so, i guess that deadpool dicksucking didn't get them any new business

>> No.9042045

>serve crappy flavorless blends of fat and sugar
>get your asses handed to you by local entrepreneurs
>blame the consumer instead of trying to appeal to them
>go out of business
Free market working as intended.

>> No.9042069

>>9041712

> US national debt, for 250 years: at 10 Trillion
> US national debt, for 8 years under Obama: at 20 Trillion

well done 'Merica, well done.

China owns your ass now

>> No.9042079

>BWW started airing commercials calling their appetizers "apps"

Fuck those assholes.

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9042090

>>9040705
>le millennial hate meme
>le born in the wrong generation meme
>>>/r/eddit

>> No.9042162

>>9041047
I think they are now a little over $1/wing

>> No.9042191

>>9041768
>porn site subscription
>all this free porn online

y tho

>> No.9042196

>>9040705

Good. Those restaurants are straight trash anyways

>> No.9042203

Boomers fuck over the economy and then act surprised when millennials don't want to waste money on shit.

>> No.9042221

>>9040736
yeah chic-fil-a is really good

>> No.9042227

>>9041359
>New York
>Being relevent to any conversation other than self fellatio or the benefits of Islamic terrorism
Jew pls.

>> No.9042268

>>9040840
I never invest in female run businesses.

>> No.9042283

>>9040708

> Mass production & Automation like there's NEVER been throughout human history
> Wants to charge $12.99 for 8 hotwings and a side of fries.
> Wages are falling, the value of the dollar is falling, all while the price of everything increases
> Wonders why it's losing business

Holy fuck, are these people seriously just not grasping what's going on here, or are they just trying to find someone to blame?

>> No.9042297

>>9042283
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but car automation and mass production was a thing over 100 years ago.

NEVER/human history is a statement that is either ignorance or stupidity. You can take your pick.

>> No.9042316

>>9042297

if you think automation is about cars, you're the idiot.

>> No.9042337

>>9042297
When was there more automation than there is today?

Cashier cucks are being replaced by kiosks every day. When were kiosks happening before the 2010s?

>> No.9042346

>>9042069
>China owns your ass now

Thanks Obama?

>> No.9042456

>>9041565
>there's no rights basis
Rights supersede contracts.
For example if I'm working for a corporation regardless of what I sign my workers rights cannot be violated. Even when buying a product a consumer has rights. That's why we have food labels.
In this case forcing people to purchase boarding and food of the school's choice or forgo the best education they can afford seems wrong. A person's right to pursue an education should not be subject to pre-conditions that have nothing to do with education

>> No.9042473

>>9042297
are you retarded? why would he be talking about cars?

>> No.9042578

i genuinely don't get the OP pic. "we're not making money and it's all your fault." isn't this just being a business.

>> No.9042599

>>9041767
This
>middle school: college, college, college
>high school: IF YOU DONT GO YOULL WORK AT MCDONALDS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. SIGN UP NOW REEEEEEE
Fucking boomers/gen x

>> No.9042616

>>9040705
I wish more places would just offer a few good dishes instead of dozens of mediocre things. Getting anything other than a sandwich or something deep-fried usually means you're getting something that's not very good.

I also kind of wish more places would offer a salad bar, but more than just lettuce/tomato/onion/cucumber/black olives/dressing like I've seen at some places. Offer more nuts and seeds, beans, cheeses, etc. Went to one place that had hummus on the salad bar, it was the best one I've ever seen. Closed down sadly.

>> No.9042630

This is just because young people don't get together in person as much as we did. Not really a big mystery. And nothing you can yell at them about. It's sad, and you can see the negative impact on them (mental and physical), but it's not like they're misbehaving. I'm certainly not going shed any tears for the fucking chain restaurants.

>> No.9042666

>>9042630
>This is just because young people don't get together in person as much as we did.
Not sure about that. I see a lot of young white people at an Indian buffet that I frequent. Sometimes there are more white people than not. I think people who don't care about food that much will just get fast food, but the ones who do will want to go to better local places. Other than that, people only go to chain restaurants because they serve alcohol now.

>> No.9042672

>>9041712
what really pisses me off is every presidential election, even just politicians in general

no one ever addresses this, it's just every few months they just have a big meeting and raise the amount of debt we're allowed to have


like this can't just keep happening forever, somethings got to give

>> No.9042677

>>9041767
iktfb

It's all the more galling that the same generation that told me to go to college so I wouldn't end up flipping burgers for the rest of my life now asks why I think I'm "too good" to work behind a grill.

>> No.9042700 [DELETED] 

>>9042616
>hummus on the salad bar
>Closed down sadly.
Nobody wants to eat that sand nigger slop

>> No.9042712

>>9042630
Nah, it's because young people can find a (likely) great restaurant in about 60 seconds on their phone, rather than settling for chain shit because they don't have a familiarity with an area.

>> No.9042715

>>9042672
Money is quite literally fictional and our military is so strong that no one can come make us pay them back (plus nukes really knock that out of the equation) so you'll likely be dead before it gets that bad

>> No.9042724

>>9042616
Whole Foods has a pretty good salad bar, but you have to be wise with it because they charge you by the pound. Stuff like hummus makes it expensive fast.

>> No.9042750

>>9042700
Hummus sales are about $400m/year. Lots of people do. It's tasty.

>>9042724
Yeah I've seen another salad place do that, but I'm not a fan of being charged per pound. I've seen some buffets that only charge $5 or $6 per pound for takeaway, but that still ends up being more expensive than just eating there for me. And it doesn't include water to drink, dipping sauces, dessert, soup, etc.

>> No.9042806

>be me
>23
>go to applebees with fiance and brother
>order 1 appitizer combo
>3 entrees
>3 desserts
>everything is terrible
>waiters are jerks
>i have 8 of them thru 1 hour
>costs 100 dollars

It was a terrible experience, with terrible food. Also i could go to all kinds of other places for 100 dollars. Really it comes down to applebees is shitty, buffalo wild wings is expensive, and old people just wanna blame someone. Maybe if they didnt suck they would of kept there old clientele and not have to shut down

>> No.9042835

>>9042715
When a country's debt becomes insufferable like Germany's after WWI, you just start a world war with the countries that own your debt and reset the balance owed to 0.

>> No.9042845

>>9040928
Just stop overeating you fatfuck.

>> No.9042860

>>9041767
>>9042599
Nobody ever told you to get a shitty degree, though. Schools are full of people wasting their time on degrees that don't do anything except signal that you can jump through bullshit hoops rather than for a specific career path.

Of course if you did go for a specific career path only to discover it wasn't possible, then I've got more sympathy. I've got friends who went to law school only to suddenly discover the law market was tanking in their second year and the jobs they were hoping for didn't exist.

>> No.9042870

>tfw chili's is slowly phasing out waiters in general
I can't wait until those tableside touchpads replace the waiters and all you have is food/drink runners.

>> No.9042889

>>9042860
>Nobody ever told you to get a shitty degree, though
No shit. They said "go to college and find something you're interested in" as if that would magically equate to money. They should be telling kids to only go if they have a path and to wait if they don't have one yet, not just "go or you're a failure." I realized I wasn't there for any reason right away, dropped out, and went to work

>> No.9042917

>>9042889

The thing is that the schools don't give a shit whether you get a job or not. They get paid either way.

The people responsible for this mess are parents, "guidance counselors", and the students themselves.

IMHO, if you're old enough to attend college then you're old enough to think about your plans and make an honest assessment whether or not the degree you're working towards will actually be beneficial or not. Of course, there can be external forces that affect this sometimes, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that spending tens of thousands to get a basic degree in art is most likely a very poor decision.

>> No.9043020

>>9040708
Seriously. I love chicken wings, but I only go on 1/2 price Tuesday because it's just not worth that much money. I'd rather heat up some frozen tendies, toss them in sauce, and pretend they're wings.

>> No.9043034

>>9040736
Canes and Chik fil a are good too

I hope millenials end the BWW and Hooters meme

>> No.9043056

>>9042917
>but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that spending tens of thousands to get a basic degree in art is most likely a very poor decision.
Unless that person loves art and just wants to be an artist or teach art. Maybe that's what they chose to do and don't care about making 100 grand a year in some soul sucking accounting job.

Personally, I'd rather do something between those two extremes.

>> No.9043060

>>9040708
>>9040722
>>9040733
>>9040774
And let's not forget mandatory tips!

Sure is great having an extra, hidden, minimum-15% fee on top of the overpriced, processed, reheated food I order any time I eat out.

But, you know, gotta keep paying those servers less than minimum wage!

Worst part is - Servers here in Canada are paid over minimum wage, and tipping is still mandatory. And then nearly all of them have the fucking sour balls to complain that they don't get tipped ENOUGH.

Motherfucker I'm a minimum-wage entry-level personal shopper at a grocery store. I run around this crowded-as-fuck place putting together over-$300 grocery orders under tight deadlines with exacting standards, and plenty of little flavour notes and last-minute additions from customers just to fuck with me (e.g. I only want green bananas 5-7" long. No scuffs or dents in the standard grocery-store-quality tomatoes please. Only FIRM grapes. Hi I'm here for my order either an hour early or right at the very last minute of the night, 5 hours late! Can I also get 5 oranges, a 4L milk, 750ml organic coconut yogurt, a loaf of bread, and 200g of thin-sliced deli bologna? Oh, an extra 10-to-20-minute wait? That's okay, I don't mind, and I'm sure all these people arriving right after me won't mind waiting an extra 10-20 minutes for me too, before they can get their groceries. I'm sure they won't start berating you, insulting you, and putting you on the spot once you finally get to them.). I also answer the constantly-ringing phone that signals when customers arrive (about every 1-20 minutes, or nothing for the whole time slot then 9 customers all show up at once), I take down all their information and their FJKASDFJLKJAKLSDFJ last-minute additions (orders must be placed 5 hours in advance so that we have time to pick it while loading up arriving customers, so this shit fucks us up but we literally can't say no)

Frothing retail rant(1/2)...

>> No.9043062

>>9043060
The froth continues (2/2)...

I then run out and pick those last-minute additions, because according to upper management, we literally can't say no to anyone for anything (Seriously. Even if deadlines are coming down to the wire, I still have to accompany the random, 98-year-old, English-as-a-second-language, dementia-ridden customer in the aisles who stops me and wants me to wander around with her at a snail's pace showing her where all the items on her grocery list are, and then doing it again because she forgot halfway through. Please don't ask me for a blowjob. I think I might actually have to do it as part of our personal shopping service.), then I process the transaction, bag it all (we rarely have time to bag in advance anymore), load it all onto a cart, and then bring it out to the parking lot and load it into your car (even all the 60-lb bags of rice and water-softener-salt). I've stopped showering before work. By the end of the night, I'm so sweaty my clothes need to be washed.

And I have to actually refuse tips, or upper management will fucking hand me my ass in a to-go bag and start reconsidering my employment there. If this economy / job market weren't so shit I wouldn't mind, but damn.

So fuck servers. Oh, you carried a plate of food to my table without dropping it, and pulled yourself away from your riveting conversation with your coworker for 1 second to give my table the moment of attention required to ask if we want our drinks topped off? And you have to do that for a whopping FIVE tables at once!? Damn girl. That's hard. That's rough. Forget a tip, you should get danger pay. Yeah, fuck that guy who only tipped 10%, you should tell us all that harrowing story again, and how you even went out of your way to be a fucking cock to him because of it.

I hope a restaurant/"casual dining" revolution comes soon.

>> No.9043067

>>9043056
I didn't say that people should automatically choose the best possible paying career.

My point was that they need to ask themselves deep down: "can I actually make a living at this". I'm all in favor of chasing your dreams, but many people don't understand just how risky a situation it is to blow a ton of money on a degree that has only a very very tiny chance of even getting you a job at all.

A person who really loves art and who wants to work in the art business as a career would be much better served by getting their foot in the door via working for an art dealer, gallery, auction house, or even an art supply store while taking a more useful degree, perhaps in business management, accounting, etc. The adage "it's not what you know but who you know" is even more important in a niche field like that.

>> No.9043081

>>9043056
>fuck being in a soul crushing office job
>I'd rather be an artist with soul crushing student loan debt instead!
This has to be a bait post

>> No.9043082

>>9042297
But even now cars are built by full blown robots rather than some guys on an assembly line.

>> No.9043087

Entitled single mother roastie waitresses completely turn me off of eating out at those places too. I'm sick of seeing failed, used up stacies post about getting tipped like shit on facebook.

>> No.9043090

>>9043081
How can your reading comprehension be this bad

>> No.9043095

>>9043062
why don't you become a server if it's so much easier and better than your job you gigantic retard?

>> No.9043100

>>9043067
>they need to ask themselves deep down: "can I actually make a living at this". I'm all in favor of chasing your dreams, but many people don't understand just how risky a situation it is to blow a ton of money on a degree that has only a very very tiny chance of even getting you a job at all.

Didn't pay attention to the rest of your conversation/argument, but THIS.

I fucking love acting. Theatre is fun as hell and I love getting into character and putting on accents and voices and postures to convey a fictional character to people in the most believable way possible. I took theatre through most of high school and a little into University.

But I had to stop. Why? Because live theatre won't put a roof over my head or dinner on my plate every night. At best I have a 0.001% chance to get noticed in Hollywood or become a huge Youtube celebrity, enough to make good money. I stopped paying for theatre courses and started getting into education (being a teacher is actually viable in Canada since we have a decent education budget). I just got accepted into the faculty of Ed, whereas I would still be getting my headshots taken, updating my portfolio, and wandering from film school to film school, trying to catch minor productions, and hope to shove my portfolio through the door for the one-second chance that the casting director will notice me.

I still love acting, I always will. Maybe once I get settled into my career I'll look into local theatre productions and do some of that in my off-time. But unfortunately, you can't always follow your passions to a cozy life. Eventually you have to realize that passions are great, but as an independent adult, you need a fucking job to survive.

>> No.9043101

>>9043082

There are still plenty of human workers in those plants, doing QC, feeding parts to the robots, etc. Not to mention the massive amount of staff involved in testing and R&D in the auto industry. Even the tiniest little things have an army of people working on them.

A company I used to work for designed and sold machinery that was used to test the scratch and wear resistance of interior plastic panels used in cars. Our company had a couple dozen employees, and our machines were at all of the major auto makers, each of which had and army of scientists and techs using the machines. I know a guy in the industry whose entire job is to supervise testing of electrical connectors. They have teams which test their electrical insulation properties, another which tests their ability to resist water spray. Another does chemical resistance. Another studies their ability to withstand heat. Another does UV light stability testing, and so on.

It might not be obvious, but the auto industry employs a staggering number of people despite the assembly line itself being largely automated.

>> No.9043108

>>9043095
see
>If this economy / job market weren't so shit I wouldn't mind, but damn.

I've been applying to different things constantly, including service. If I could get in anywhere easier than my position, I would, especially considering how it's minimum wage with no room to move up. I would lose nothing by changing jobs, but for now it's a paycheck until something better comes up.

>> No.9043129

>>9043101
That doesn't mean there wasn't a net loss in jobs due to automation

>> No.9043137

>>9040841

Olive garden is literally the nicest restaurant in smaller cities

People actually get dressed up in suits and dressses to go the re.

99% of people have idea that it's just a fast food chain and all the food is just frozen premade boil in a bag

>> No.9043139

>>9040826
You've never worked a day in a restaurant, have you?

>> No.9043170

>>9040883
You fucking retard, colleges and universities "force" students to purchase all sorts of things (books fees, technology fees, activity center fees, meal plans). Its called "tuition" you fucking moron. It's up to the student to actually get their money's worth.

>> No.9043172

>>9043129
>That doesn't mean there wasn't a net loss in jobs due to automation

No, that specific discussion doesn't prove that. But there hasn't been a net job loss, which is easy to see in the shareholder data released by the large automakers. Specific jobs were lost. More jobs were added in other areas.

I was pointing out where those workers were.

And this is completely disregarding the jobs created at the companies which supply and maintain the automation equipment.

>> No.9043173

>>9040705
Assuming the millennials are at fault: why? Is it because they can't afford to eat at these places? Or do they choose to eat elsewhere?

>> No.9043189

>>9041055
I wish someone could figure out how to ruin Walmart before any more Main Streets have to die.

>> No.9043196

>>9043173
Basically:
>Those danged kids keep taking pictures of food instead of eating it and staying inside instead of walking around town! It's ruining our fine eating establishments and causing them to hike up prices and lose patronage! Why is the world so cruel to us baby boomers?

>> No.9043200

>>9043173
The latter.
Many of them are shut-ins that don't go out to eat out of fear of social interactions.

Others prefer to eat at alternatives like local, vegan, hipster, etc, sort of places.

Frankly, I'm glad that people are finally rejecting this crap and eating real food instead. (No, I'm not a millennial).

>> No.9043203

>>9043196
Eh...all baby boomers will be dead soon anyway, so an article like this doesn't hold a lot of gravity even if you decided to agree with it.

Dead men tell no tales.

>> No.9043606

>>9043108
Good luck with getting a new job mate, that shit you're in currently sounds fucking horrifying.

>> No.9043651

>>9043203
Not soon enough. Most of them probably have 20-40 more years in them.

>> No.9043656

>>9043203
>Dead men tell no tales.

But do leave debt. :^)

>> No.9044300

>millennials choose to eat at local non-chain restaurants, supporting the community and allowing them to grow
>millennials generally care about getting locally sourced foods/stuff that isn't processed to hell
>millenials are willing to pay a higher price for a meal, but expect a good meal for the money and not fast-food greasy wings you can make at home.
>millennials are more health conscious and generally prefer food that isn't just deep fried cheese

HOW DARE THEY
THINK OF MUH WAL-MARTS
MUH APPLEBEES
MUH PARKIN LAWTS

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>>9040705
I like BDubs wings. I mainly go back for the variety of sauces and to try the Sauce Lab stuff. They also support local craft beer and have a nice list. But you're never gonna get tender juicy marinated wings like pic related no matter how good they get, which is rare.

>> No.9044868

>>9042297
>car automation
anon did you seriously confuse automation with automotives

>> No.9044903

>>9043020
>I'd rather heat up some frozen tendies, toss them in sauce, and pretend they're wings.
Or just buy like 2 bags of frozen wings for less than what BWW charges

>> No.9044917

>>9040786
>Old people fucking love terrible national chains for some reason
I'll never understand this. When I'm with my grandma she always wants to stop at fucking Applebee's or Wendy's or Ruby Tuesday's while I'm trying to get her to stop at this local diner that has great food but is struggling to keep its doors open. The one time I managed to get her to eat there she actually liked the food but still insists on place like Applebee's despite complaining about how shit the food was immediately after getting into the car.

>> No.9044924

>>9041788
Nice, cool!

>> No.9044925

>>9040928
>tfw always end up loading up on those hot rolls and butter before my food even arrives
>try to stop myself but can't

>> No.9044990

>>9043172
This.
You can make an industrial machine, but ultimately someone has to develop it, someone has to manufacture it, and someone must maintain it.

You can only automate so much, even hundreds of years in the future where we have reliable and versatile robotics, there would be large amounts of human elements in the equation.

>> No.9045001

>>9041298
The article does not even blame anyone, it just makes the observation.

>> No.9045009

>>9043173
Because it's low grade fast food pretending it is medium grade actual dining, and generally people either stop falling for it/get sick of it, or they wont have the price hikes that places like BWW are doing.

It seems it's monumentally harder to do a chain that isn't fast food and make it work.
Skyline Chili strikes me as a casual dining place that actually works, and it's probably because it's local to the Cincinatti area, is only like a hundred or so places, and to my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong), not reheating Sysco junk.

>> No.9045011

>>9045001
>not blaming anyone
>THOSE MILLENIALS MURDERED APPLEBEES

>> No.9045063

>>9040857
i got the cheapest meal plan and ate only boiled eggs, celery and radishes most days and STILL ran out of money in february

>> No.9045209

>>9044917
It's the same impulse that leads to our generation demanding sprite-based games which mimic our childhood favorites.

>> No.9045219

>>9045009
I work in a "new american" NYC restuarant that looks like its fine dining but really its just microwaved sysco garbage. The boomers fucking love it though

>> No.9045226

Would anyone actually give a shit if either of these places failed?

I'm not going to blame the millenials I'm going to thank them.

>> No.9045510

>>9045226
I'm fine with it. I have much better local chains in my hometown, and I genuinely wouldn't give a shit if the local Applebees got replaced with a new Silver Diner.

I'd also love to see BWW get replaced by Wild Wing Cafe, because the closest one of those is down in Charlottesville, which isn't going to happen.

>> No.9045527

If my Oliver Garden ever shuts I will cry unmanly tears. I can't live without unlimited breadsticks.

>> No.9045542

>>9043020

I like BWW, but I'd only go when they're having a deals like that.

The last time I went, they had a thing where you just pay $20 and can eat all the chicken wings you want, any sauces.

Shit was great.

>> No.9045555
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9045555

Millennials need to consume more goods and services REEEEEEEEE!!!!!

>> No.9045566

Let's all go out to mediocre chain restaurants to keep them alive, for what will we do without ruby tuesday?

>> No.9045573

>>9041048
lol do you really think these restaurants pay their starting employees more than $10 an hour? If that's what you got out of undergrad then I'm sorry about your communications degree, bud

>> No.9045590

I still eat out, just not at these places. Sorry if your middle class chain is having hard times grandpa.

>> No.9045605

>>9041831
>We've

You're making shit up on the internet to feel better about your failures. You are not in a position of power, you're just spreading the stereotypes in your head

>> No.9045608

>>9045555
It's true though. A first-world-tier economy can only be built and maintained with demand stimulation. There is no other way

>> No.9045613

>>9045590
The problem is bigger though. It's uncool to consume, so unsurprisingly, consumption across the board is way down

>> No.9045621

>>9040705
Gen Xer here. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

>> No.9045671

>>9045608

Fuck the economy it's a sacred cow, it does not benefit me or you all it does is enable the wealthy to become wealthier through soulless globalist conglomerates that are given tax cuts and bail outs, the money never trickles down none of us have seen any of this money or will we the average people would notice barely any difference in a crashed economy

>but muh iphones will cost more
>but muh job will disappear
>but muh holiday

Get fucked, we need a reboot if you'd lose your job you and your job is worthless

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9045677

>>9045608
If your only measure of an economy's success is consumption you're genna have a bad time

>> No.9045696

>>9045671
>the money never trickles down
Sure it does. It fucking *has* to.

If you're a rich mofo then what do you do with your money? If you spend it on expensive luxuries then the money goes to the companies who produce said luxuries. It gets paid out to parts suppliers, building rent, insurance, marketing firms, salaries of workers. It even trickles down to the poor people that Expensive McMemebrand pays to clean their toilets, wash windows, mow the lawn outside their fancy corporate headquarters, etc. If the rich mofo instead puts his money in the bank then the bank lends out that money (actually, 10 times as much money given the fractional reserve system in the US) to people who are buying houses, cars, equipment for their business, or using a credit card.

Where do you think this money goes if it doesn't trickle down? Does it magically vanish?

>> No.9045702

>>9040705
Here's the deal with millennials: When you grow up watching the Food Network you have no incentive to pay a premium for what amounts to fast food in a slightly more upscale environment. If they're paying more than fast food prices they want food that's better. What's served at these casual dining chains isn't it.

>> No.9045707

>>9045613
>middle class is shrinking in the West
>economy is slowing


Gee I wonder why.

>> No.9045709

>>9045696
>Sure it does it fucking *has* to
Right that's why the income gap in the US has become third world tier, the middle class has all but disapppeared and the wages of the lower class have stagnated so heavily in the post Reagan era

>> No.9045711

>>9045696
Guys like that literally believe that trickle down means they get rich eventually for doing nothing. Like, they think the rich people's money just flows to them eventually for doing nothing.

>> No.9045717

>>9045702
You're right. A nearby restaurant sells a 1/2 lb burger for $11. There's a Wendy's right next to it that sells 1/2 lb burgers for like $5, and the quality is about the same, so why would I buy the $11 burger?

>> No.9045724

>>9045709
I blame those problems on entitlement and laziness.

The people who are doing things right get richer.
The people who sit around whining and waiting for a handout aren't getting anywhere.

The people in the middle class have either moved up (those people who work hard and don't make stupid decisions) or they've moved down (those who don't work hard and/or make stupid decisions).

>> No.9045729

>>9043170
There's a difference between saying "you have to meet this educational standard to get this degree" and "you have to live and eat somewhere or you are not allowed to even attempt to meet the educational standard.

>> No.9045730

>>9045696

I said wealthy not rich to make the distinction, the wealthy have offshore bank accounts and don't pay any tax, the west loses billions in tax revenue because of amazon and the like evading taxes, that is wealth
I count the rich in the same boat as us, they are not the 1% so to speak who have 99% of the worlds money

Wages have been stagnant for years, the average wage would have been today's equivalent of 45K, instead we're fighting for 15K a year and being told to be grateful for the opportunity to make someone else money

The money does not trickle down, this is why your grandpa could afford a house, a car and a family straight out of school at 18 and you can barely afford to pay rent at 28

>If the rich mofo instead puts his money in the bank then the bank lends out that money (actually, 10 times as much money given the fractional reserve system in the US)

This is the problem, we have created more debt than wealth exists, fuck the banks, fuck george soros, fuck the rothchilds, fuck the jews for inventing usury

>Where do you think this money goes if it doesn't trickle down? Does it magically vanish?

They are literally hoarding it right now and doing nothing with it

>> No.9045734

>>9045724
>entitlement
You mean like government bailouts and golden parachutes?

>> No.9045742

>>9045696
>Where do you think this money goes if it doesn't trickle down? Does it magically vanish?
It gets hoarded.
http://www.newsweek.com/panama-papers-top-ten-tax-havens-where-money-hidden-444512

>> No.9045743

Millenials have been told from early age that fast food is bad for you and will kill you and that we should eat home made food. So when we do it, and at the same time notice it actually tastes better than chemical ridden "products" of fast food chains, we are bad? What the hell. Why wouldn't we ate at local restaurants if the food is better and in bigger portion?

>> No.9045748

Why do boomers enjoy consuming materials so much more than millenials? Why are they so materialistic?

>> No.9045751

>>9045743
but fast food isn't really dying, not in the same way at least
just these lame chains which serve generic trashy food

>> No.9045760

>>9045730
>The money does not trickle down
Tell me where it goes then?

>this is why your grandpa could afford a house, a car and a family straight out of school at 18 and you can barely afford to pay rent at 28
My grandpa had a job at Shell Oil. He had to live with his parents for years while he and my Grandmother saved up money to buy a house. they did, but they had to pinch pennies like mad. Grandma was a master at shopping cheap and stretching what food they could afford to feed the family. She couldn't afford to buy clothes so she had to make them herself. Same for house furnishings like curtains. When my father (and his siblings) was old enough to work he was expected to pay my grandparents rent for his room and board. In fact, between bus/train fare and paying my grandparents for room/board he had very little money.

That generation could afford a house (and eventually a car) because they budgeted carefully. They had very little money left over once you took away the house payment, food, and utilities.

The people I see bitching about "why don't I have enough money" today are that way because they are idiots and spend it on luxuries. They go out to eat (even if it's just fast food) every day. They have a fancy big TV, video game systems, trendy clothes. They happily pay a $100/month or more subscription for their phone toy. Ditto for a fancy cable package so they can watch sports. They certainly could afford a home and a car--they just needed to do what my grandparents did: cut out the luxuries, cook for yourself instead of paying much more money to eat out, save, learn to repair things rather than throw-away-and-replace all the time, and so on.

>>They are literally hoarding it right now and doing nothing with it

So it's just sitting in a big pile in their home somewhere? Because if they have it in the bank, securities, stocks/bonds, etc, then that's the very definition of trickle down.

>> No.9045763

>>9045748

The drugs, they stared into the abyss and they became aware of the hole inside them gnawing away at them, the difference is society used to be good and there was something to hope for, when millennials take drugs they see how fucked everything is, how the future is doubly fucked and that's why they circlejerk post ironically about suicide and depression, they've given up and rightfully so, the boomers know they will die right before shit hits the fan

So they need to fill that whole with consuming shit, we used to try and fill that void with religion but we abandoned it, why do you think people get so fanatical about progressive shit and become SJW's?
It's their new religion they've adopted in order to fill that hole, this is what millenials are doing
Boomers are just consuming endlessly

>> No.9045767

>>9045760
Tell me man, how much would you have to save to afford a house and car?

>> No.9045768

>>9045742
>http://www.newsweek.com/panama-papers-top-ten-tax-havens-where-money-hidden-444512

That article describes the money being invested in banks. Banks loan out their money--that's how they stay in business and make a profit.

Thus, the money trickles down via the loans given out by said banks.

Suppose some company wants to do a major project, like constructing a massive building, amusement park, shopping mall, etc. They go to one of those banks for a bigass loan. That money then gets paid out to the workers who are constructing said building, the truckers who deliver materials to the building site, the guys operating the heavy machinery, the wageslaves who operate the concrete plant, the guys who are selling tools, materials, and food to all the workers....

>> No.9045769

>>9041712
How has Trump fared with the debt?

>> No.9045771

>>9045760
>Lining bankers pockets is trickling down

>> No.9045786

>>9045760
>Tell me where it goes then?

See >>9045742 they hide the money in other countries how exactly does this money re-enter our economy? It doesn't

>That generation could afford a house (and eventually a car) because they budgeted carefully. They had very little money left over once you took away the house payment, food, and utilities.

And now no one can because they're in debt due to college and can't afford anything ensuring they'll be humble working class burdened with debt ensuring they will never live for themselves or family only working to create profit for corporations and banks

>> No.9045788

>>9045768
Even if that were true and these banks weren't making money via commission for being tax havens (which is actually how they make their money) it still cuts off a massive portion of the trickle you're referring to by evading taxes. No money goes to whatever government is due, which means that government then has less money to work with which can lead to budget cuts, which means government employees lose their jobs.

>> No.9045791

>>9045788
Oh and that also means private companies that used to be frequently contracted by the government no longer are, causing layoffs at those companies as well, which means less money goes into the economy, which leads to shit like the OP.

>> No.9045808

>>9045786
>And now no one can because they're in debt due to college

Sounds like it was dumb decision to take out that college loan then. Your grandpa didn't take out some silly loan, he went to work.

That's not "the man keeping people down", it's people making dumb decisions and having to deal with the consequences of those decisions.

>> No.9045817

>>9045788
>cuts off a massive portion of the trickle you're referring to by evading taxes

It increases the trickle to normal people because the money goes directly to the people instead of to the government.

>>which means that government then has less money to work with which can lead to budget cuts

That's a good thing. The government is constantly growing like some kind of mutant monster, and it does a very poor job of spending money. Wasteful government spending is completely out of control. Anything which forces the government to cut back and spend LESS is a great thing.

>>9045791
No, the money is still there, it's just spent on different things. On one side the gov might take it and spend it buying more tanks that even the Army says it doesn't want or need. On the other side, if that money never went to taxes then the people would spend that same money on other things. The difference is that the latter spends the money on what people actually want, rather than what the government thinks they want (usually because of some shady deal--"vote for me and I'll make sure that companies in your state get this big fat military contract")

>> No.9045826

>>9045771
>>Lining bankers pockets is trickling down

Of course it is. Those rich bankers spend their money on all sorts of things. That is literally trickling down.

Richy McJewBanker buys another Rolex to add to his collection? Money trickles down to the jewelry store--the employees, their suppliers, the restaurants the employees eat at, the dude they pay to keep the shop clean, the guys working for Rolex who actually built the watch, the people that supply Rolex with parts, etc.

>> No.9045854

>>9045808
>Your grandpa didn't take out some silly loan, he went to work.
Not only was college significantly cheaper, but it was far easier to get into, and people technically made more money doing jobs that would now put you on the poverty line.
Loans have become necessary due to the man keeping people down.
Think about it. If there was a way to guarantee that just about every adult who couldn't pay their own way (really get their parents to pay) to owe you money as soon as they become an adult, wouldn't you buy into that system?

>> No.9045861

>>9045826
>Those rich bankers spend their money on all sorts of things
>They buy expensive vehicles built in other countries
>They buy expensive houses that are owned by high yield construction companies that more than likely don't employ lower class workers
>They go on vacation in countries that aren't the US
this is a weird conversation for the cooking board

>> No.9045866

>>9045808
It's just not possible for an entry-level position to both pay for collage and keep someone fed and in housing, not adding in the incidentals for healthcare and taxes (State, local, and national).
Tuition is up several thousand percent and wages are stagnant. It's just not possible for most people.

>> No.9045873

>>9045817
>It increases the trickle to normal people because the money goes directly to the people instead of to the government.
Terrible, terrible bait.
But if you're being serious please elaborate on how hoarding $600 million overseas is better for the normal person than giving $30 million to the federal government to pay for roads, schools, and police

>> No.9045879

>>9045854
>Loans have become necessary due to the man keeping people down.

Lol. People love to blame others for their own poor decision making. It's never them that made a poor decision, it's always "they", "them", "the man", etc.

>> No.9045880

>>9045873
The obvious solution to this is to further reduce the taxes on the rich so they do not feel the need to offshore their money.

>> No.9045883

>>9045866
Exactly. Which is why choosing to take out a bigass loan for college is often times a very poor decision.

The number of people attending college has gotten far too high. Earlier in the thread people talked about "your grandparent's generation". Back then, the overwhelming majority of people simply didn't go to college. They didn't have that expense.

People can do exactly what "our grandparents did" today. They can simply choose not to buy things they can't afford (college included) and eliminate unnecessary luxuries from their budget. Instead of eating fast food every day, pack a lunch. Prioritize your work over leisure activities, etc.

>> No.9045885

>>9043062
dont apply for a job and then cry when you dont like the job description anymore

>> No.9045892

>>9043129
but only the unskilled laborers lost their jobs, not the people with real value

>> No.9045899

>>9045880
Well we've tried that and there's still $600 billion in taxable income oversees. Not to mention a 39.6% tax on the highest income bracket is comparatively not that high

>> No.9045902

>>9045873
>But if you're being serious
I was.

>> please elaborate on how hoarding $600 million overseas is better for the normal person than giving $30 million to the federal government

I never made that claim. I agree that sending millions overseas is a bad thing. I was making an unrelated claim that giving money to the federal government is also a bad thing.

>>to pay for roads, schools, and police
Except for specific interstate highways and very specific law enforcement (Customs, FBI) those are all funded by LOCAL taxes, not federal.

The cops that help you if you've been a victim of a crime? Local (i.e. sales) tax. Schools? Local property tax. Fire department? Same thing. The overwhelming majority of roads? State and local.

I'm also glad you mentioned schools. That's a great example of why we shouldn't keep funneling more money to the government. The US nears the top of the list when it comes to spending per-capita of students in school. OTOH we're much lower down the list when it comes to the quality of education the students get. Fucking Russia manages to spend only 1/4 what the US spends per student on primary school, yet they kick the shit out of US students when it comes to the quality of that education. The sad fact is that the US education system is poorly run. It's very well funded, yet performs poorly. This is true of most things under the Government. The reason is that unlike private industry, the government has nobody to answer to and no competition. The lack of competition means there is no incentive to do better--or even to do a good job in the first place. This problem does not exist in Private industry because if they do a poor job then their customers will simply go elsewhere.

>> No.9045918

>>9045902
>This problem does not exist in Private industry because if they do a poor job then their customers will simply go elsewhere.
What planet do you live on, and can I join you there?

>> No.9045928

>>9045918
Earth. You're already here, anon.

Failed companies go out of business all the time--especially restaurants. OTOH, those which do a good job survive and grow.

If you went to a business (of any kind) and you were disappointed with the product or service would you go back there and give them more of your money? Of course not (assuming you have a choice). You'd go somewhere else next time. That results in constant pressure on private business to succeed, and it doesn't exist in the Government.

Get some experience working with the government and this becomes painfully obvious. A company I used to work for once sold a piece of analytical equipment to a US Army lab. We had to bust ass to get it done by the delivery date on the contract. Even one day late would have meant automatic cancellation of said contract. We delivered on time & everything worked perfectly. Want to know how long it took us to get paid? *nineteen months*.

My wife used to work for the US Embassy in Germany. Her boss once told her: "You're processing too many passport applications per day. " She replied: "It's no problem sir, I have plenty of time and they don't take very long to do". His response? "I want you to slow down. People might get the wrong idea. Just do three a day; leave the rest for later".

I can go on and on....

>> No.9046026

>>9040705
so sad, millenials don't like big chain restaurants that serve frozen processed food :(

>> No.9046037

>>9040705
ITS TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE

I EARN 15$ AN HOUR, I AM NOT PAYING FUGGIN 30+ DOLLARS FOR CHEAP ASS DINER FOOD

GIT GUD FOOD INDUSTRY

>> No.9046067

>ITT it's the boomers fault my [insert useless degree here] degree is useless reeeee

>> No.9046070

>>9046026
All food is processed, tard.

>> No.9046076

>>9046070
You know damn well what was meant, Captain Pedantic

>>durr hurr I pulled this carrot out of the ground therefore it's "processed"

>> No.9046077

>>9046070
So if I kill something and eat it, it's processed?

>> No.9046090

>>9045928
You clearly don't have any experience with ISPs, banks, hardware stores, airlines, and the like. They don't give a crap about customer satisfaction, because nobody else in their industry does. You want their product? Bend over. Don't want their product? Too bad, you're going to need it at some point.

>> No.9046092

>>9046077
Killing is a process.
So is eating.
Retard.

>> No.9046097

>>9041959
nah, blacks and natives have to maintain lower averages to stay in their programs and graduate too.

some arab i know complained that she wouldn't be able to continue in her program if she only got a 60 in her class and explained that "it is so hard being an arab in university" and they boosted her mark unconditionally to a 80.

I'm literally not making this up, she's literally borderline illiterate. I think they were being generous with the 60% grades.

>> No.9046107

>>9046090
I actually worked at a hardware store as my first job. We busted ass because if we didn't then we'd lose all our customers to the big chains like Home Depot.

As for banks? You bet I have experience dealing with them. I own two small businesses. Not a single day goes by that I don't hear from some bank or another wanting me to switch to them, claiming they can offer lower fees and higher interest on my accounts. I get the same thing from credit card processing companies offering me lower rates.

>> No.9046108

>>9041845
>>We've hired plenty of blacks from 'merican Unis who have degrees but can't fucking spell or do simple math.

This is what happens when you cater your education system to the lowest common denominators.

Doesn't matter if 3/4 of the class is ready to take Calculus... everybody is learning Algebra 101 for the 5th time because Little Tyrone and S'haniqua can't be bothered to learn.

>> No.9046112

>>9045717
Right. No one is willing to pay twice the price for the same burger just because they're eating it at a "sit down" restaurant. Those willing to pay that price expect a burger that's noticeably better than Wendy's.

>> No.9046114

>>9045729
no there isn't they're private businesses

>> No.9046117

>>9041831
>We've hired plenty of blacks from 'merican Unis who have degrees but can't fucking spell or do simple math.

Affirmative Action may be one of the worst & most Racist policies in American history.

>> No.9046123

>>9046067
>my [insert useless degree here] degree is useless

Well... what do you expect when your American schools just hands out "degrees" to Niggers who can't spell or do math?

You want semi-literate niggers to feel good about themselves?

Well done. You've accomplished your goal.

>> No.9046176

>>9040885

>At least one 64-year-old co-worker understands just how fucked things are for people born after 1980

I was in 1987 and life is pretty good for me. In fact most of the people I associate who have been born after the 80's are enjoying life. Actually most people I know are enjoying life.

Then again I don't live in a first world country where there are "millennials" "baby boomers" and if a fast food chain fails, no one really cares or is there anyone to blame except the business owner.

>> No.9046182

>>9041831
>We've hired plenty of blacks from 'merican Unis who have degrees but can't fucking spell or do simple math.

Just wait until you start working... it will be real fucking obvious why the diversity hires needed "quotas" to get those jobs.

Most of those niggers wouldn't get jobs working fast food without their fake degrees & quotas.

>> No.9046183

>>9046117
Ive seen it. We have affirmative action hires for our call center at work, when they talk to customers, they have to type out what happened during the call/describe a problem. I have to read all of their garbled bix nood ebonics. Just this one group of niggers alone have slayed the English language, most of it after studying it in context I can make out what they are trying to say, but some of it is indecipherable. It costs the company hours of collective wasted time of us trying to understand/laugh at their monkey messages, but hey who cares? Not hiring them would be RACISS

>> No.9046189

>>9046123
We're not talking about low standards for degrees.

We're talking about people making silly decisions and choosing to take a degree that has no applicability.

>> No.9046208

>>9046183
>We have affirmative action hires for our call center at work, when they talk to customers, they have to type out what happened during the call/describe a problem. I have to read all of their garbled bix nood ebonics.

FUN FACT:

In modern day 'Merica, so many Black kids kept failing basic high school English, that they eventually decided to make "Ebonics" an official language just so they can get rid of all the 5th and 6th year niggers.

Now we have black kids graduating from school who were given the "OK" to speak improper English because they were too dumb to learn. Let that sink in for a minute...

>> No.9046209

>>9046112
>no one does it, except the people that do am I right guise?

millennialss at their best

>> No.9046213

>>9046208
>In modern day 'Merica, so many Black kids kept failing basic high school English, that they eventually decided to make "Ebonics" an official language just so they can get rid of all the 5th and 6th year niggers.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On December 18, 1996, the Oakland Unified School District school board of Oakland, California, United States, passed a controversial resolution recognizing the legitimacy of Ebonics — what mainstream linguists more commonly term African American Vernacular English (AAVE) — as an African language. The resolution set off a firestorm of media criticism and ignited a national debate.

>> No.9046222

hate millennials
love infinite free breadsticks
simple as

>> No.9046229

>>9046114
What makes you think private businesses in a sensitive an area as education are allowed to do whatever they want. Like I said before consumers (in this case students) have rights that supercede any contract.

>> No.9046251

>>9046209
I'm Gen X, and my point was that these days people will pay more for better food, but not the same fast food tier shit just because the place has table service.That's why these restaurants are in trouble. People expect some correlation between the food quality and price. Disappoint them on that front and you lose customers.

>> No.9046267

>>9046213

>African language

Except no Africans actually speak that "language"

>> No.9046316

>>9046229
they're allowed to choose whatever product or service they want to sell, and you're given the choice of whether you want to buy it.

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but they certainly don't have an obligation to appeal you. It isn't unethical either.

I agree that students should be treated better, but it isn't an obligation and there aren't any "rights" in this area. There's not really anything you can do besides take your business somewhere that has what you want.

I think having governments regulate something like that might be your only hope changing it. Maybe threatening to cut on subsidies would force them to either up their costs/prices and lose business or just go along with the change.

>> No.9046408

>>9046213
>African American Vernacular English (AAVE) — as an African language.

Do these niggers seriously believe the shit broken ENGLISH they bastardized actually originated from Africa?

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>>9046077
>Eating something alive without tools to break it down
Herro, Mr. Jap.

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>>9040712
No small business! Yeaaah! Let's destroy the middle class!!! That'll teach em

>> No.9047644

>muh millenials
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/business/the-middle-class-is-steadily-eroding-just-ask-the-business-world.html

>> No.9047707

>>9047589

>Applebee's
>Small business

I'm fucking English and even I know what Applebee's is, small business my arse

>> No.9047717

>>9045883
You realize if everyone just follows your "live frugally lol" strategy then the economy takes a dive right? You can't have it both ways here chief.

>> No.9047815

>>9041142
A couple of years ago, facing declining sales and rising chicken prices, they switched from # of wings sold to "small, medium, large, xl" based on weight.

>> No.9047831

>>9040705
maybe if BWW didnt charge $10 for a cocktail with .5oz of a 20% liquor then they would do better

bww can fuck right off

>> No.9047844

i love going to restaurants that serve frozen food i can get at the store at a 300% markup plus having to give a person who spent 3-5 minutes bringing some plates to me 20% of the cost of the meal

>> No.9048303

>>9041170
Underrated post.

>> No.9048311

>>9041866
>assumes software engineer.
A++ The answer is no, you cannot get your cert without a degree. At least here in Cali.

>> No.9049155

>>9045743
Fast food isn't going anywhere.

Casual dining is what is dying.

>> No.9049276

>>9042870
>any kind of public touchpads
>especially in a food setting
I, too, love germs

>> No.9049300

>>9049276
>his immune system is so weak this is actually a consideration
It isn't my fault all that unprotected gay sex left you Aids-ridden.

>> No.9049360

>>9045883
>Prioritize your work over leisure activities, etc.
"Work harder, serf, don't you know FUN is the opium of the people?"

C'mon, dawg, leisure is part of human lifeblood, and we live in an era where there's surplus and infrastructure for near every man and woman to pursue leisure even with a job, enjoying life is what makes it worth it.

I will say that most people would benefit from not going to college, or going for a trade rather than wasted "education" like Women's Studies.
Also there's economical ways to pursue leisure.

>> No.9049371

>>9049276
It's a dry and hard surface at room temperature, you get more bacteria from the food itself (which is really a fucking insignificant amount). Do you think you can catch disease from toilet seats too?

Just have one of the servers rub it down with alcoholic wipes a few times a day.

>> No.9049401

>>9045902
It's amazing how absolutely awful public schools are, and how people never seem to grasp that throwing more and more money at it has not done anything to improve it, but make it worse.

>>9045918
Why do think Applebees is dying?
They fail in the market because they suck and people don't like their prices, on average you get a better deal (and arguably better food) at fucking McDonald's

The opening topic of the thread is LITERALLY a prime example if the phenomenom you're so incredulous about existing.

Imagine if roads were bought and built privately, would you buy from the company with a good record and who build a solid road foundation and expertly recycle torn up tarmac into brand new tarmac at competive pricing, or the more expensive company that lays down gravel on plain ground with black paint on top, then calls it a day?

If you have a shit service/product, you don't generally survive in a free market, unless it's not a fully free market and the state bails you out.

>> No.9049410

>>9045928
>My wife used to work for the US Embassy in Germany. Her boss once told her: "You're processing too many passport applications per day. " She replied: "It's no problem sir, I have plenty of time and they don't take very long to do". His response? "I want you to slow down. People might get the wrong idea. Just do three a day; leave the rest for later".
Subsidized mediocrity, ain't it fucking beautiful?

>> No.9049416

>>9046090
>banks
>airlines
You mean businesses that are buddy buddy with the state and has spent decades building protective legislature and bail out deals is kept artificially afloat? Nooo?

>> No.9049424

>>9046213
>African language
It's funny because not a single motherfucker on that continent speaks AAVE, and you'd probably be met with confusion and/or contempt if you did.

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>>9043062
Not your personal blog, faggot.