/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.8060043]

Why do people hate on American cooking here so much? I mean have they not heard of our regional cuisines?

[Anonymous No.8060051]

Because people don't know enough about a country they're not part of.

[Anonymous No.8060058]

i do love the shit out of buttermilk biscuits.

this is the pinnacle of wheat-based food. it's better than any other bread or pastry.

every bag of flour dreams of being made into these biscuits.

[Anonymous No.8060069]

>>8060043
good looking breakfast here's mine

[Anonymous No.8060125]

>>8060058
Fuck. Now I'm craving those

[Anonymous No.8060194]

>>8060043
When people mock Americas food they aren't mocking the meals but rather your abhorrent ingredients like HFCS everything, bleached meat, hormone injected beef and milk, chemically washed eggs, cheese like product, etc.

[Anonymous No.8060206]

>>8060194
Do Americans really do this?

[Anonymous No.8060210]

>>8060194
>obsessed with America part two, Electric Boogaloo.

[Anonymous No.8060211]

>>8060194
oh sorry, let me go to the grocery store and buy...

oh fuck, i guess thats all we have.

eat nigger shit dick snot. we make due with what we can.
go pick an apple and shove it up your ass

and seriously, you fuckign haters on the american cheese. there are 2 dishes that absolutely demand fuckign american cheese, no substitutes.
>cheeseburger
>omelettes
wouldnt expect a hater who refuses to experiment with it to know fuck shit about it

[Anonymous No.8060224]

>>8060043
Because the 20th Century saw American cooking lean really hard into fast or convenience food, which doesn't exactly result in quality.

[Anonymous No.8060268]

>>8060210
Hey, I'm explaining what they mean friend, no need to get triggered at the messenger.

[Anonymous No.8060417]

>>8060043
>Why do people hate on American cooking here so much?

because all their knowledge about american food comes from internet memes and leftist media with an obvious anti-american agenda

that's why every discussion about american food quickly devolves into people spamming memes like
>lmao enjoy your GMO cancer burgers
>go eat your daily big mac, fatso
>[pic of shitty TV dinner]
>[youtube of inbred retards cooking up disgusting shit]
>DUDE OBESITY LMAO
>hahaha flyovers xD

in reality, traditional american cuisine is a blend of various european cuisines, primarily german and english, as well as various other cuisines that got incorporated into it over the centuries (french, spanish, west african, native american, ...)

[Anonymous No.8060460]

>>8060417
To be fair the traditional American cooking is occasionally encountered, especially at holidays, but most of the cuisine has been replaced by fast food, convenience food, sandwiches and stuff that could charitably be called short order cooking.

[Anonymous No.8060473]

>>8060043

Because it's not "cooking" it is just taking a bunch of unhealthy shit and throwing it together. American cuisine largely prides itself on quantity over quality and uses too much shit.

[Anonymous No.8060483]

>>8060211
>putting American cheese on an omelette
The only time I'd allow American cheese anywhere near eggs would be in a breakfast sandwich

[Anonymous No.8060484]

>>8060211

Uneducated and incapable of using basic grammar.

Defends fake dairy products thinking that they are obligated to be put on dishes.

Childish insults.

Yup it is an American.

[Anonymous No.8060493]

breakfast options are so shit.

[Anonymous No.8060499]

>>8060211
I might be willing to say that American cheese is better than cheddar on burgers, but provolone or swiss is miles better.

[Anonymous No.8060500]

>>8060194
You mean the shit that poor people buy? Oh darn you got us. I guess everyone in the UK buys frosty jack too.

[Anonymous No.8060502]

>>8060499
As someone who despises American cheese, there is something cohesive about it on a burger. It's the only way I'd stomach the stuff.

[Anonymous No.8060519]

Because that's protocol to get a reaction here.

[Anonymous No.8060521]

>>8060194

It's pretty fucking easy to avoid that stuff if you just read labels. Farmer's Markets are also abundant if you want stuff from the source.

[Anonymous No.8060525]

>>8060460

>most of the cuisine has been replaced by fast food, convenience food, sandwiches and stuff that could charitably be called short order cooking

Maybe if you're, ironically, poor

[Anonymous No.8060526]

>>8060194

> HFCS everything, bleached meat, hormone injected beef and milk, chemically washed eggs, cheese like product, etc.

is this an american thing?

[Anonymous No.8060528]

>>8060521
God I miss me some farmer's markets. Get drunk with the sellers, get an extra carrot cuz that's on the house.

[Anonymous No.8060530]

>>8060194
>eurocucks actually believe this

[Anonymous No.8060545]

>>8060206
Our meat is really gross. There are better options but most people would rather save money on cheap walmart meat. The real problem with America is our insistence on eating a big portion of meat with every meal. If we gave that up and spent the same amount of money on a lesser amount of more quality meat we could start to turn things around.

that plus the sugar.

[Anonymous No.8060574]

>>8060545
photo is from a Wegman's down the street from me in NJ.

[Anonymous No.8060578]

>>8060545
And this photo is from a Mitsuwa supermarket in NJ as well.

[Anonymous No.8060582]

>>8060194
>bleached meat

There's nothing wrong with HFCS that isn't wrong with sugar, and why would you want dirty-vermin-infestied eggs?

[Anonymous No.8060605]

>>8060525
You'd be surprised how much of the middle class and above is eating mostly fast and convenience food. They don't get it from McDonald's and WalMart, they get it from fast casual restaurants and upscale grocers like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. But it's the same shit. Not a lot of people really cook anymore on a day to day basis.

[Anonymous No.8060667]

>>8060194
wtf i hate america now

[Anonymous No.8060708]

>>8060500
Everyone does, when they are a teenager hanging out at the park with their friends hoping to get their fingers sticky with some slag.

[Anonymous No.8060733]

>>8060578
>Kobe beef
>Product of the USA
Uhmmm

[Anonymous No.8060734]

>>8060194
That shouldn't be a surprise. We went from soup lines to going out for burgers and fries in one generation. The ability to acquire large quantities of food cheaply is very much the symbol of our success. We're not giving that up, regardless of how much it degrades our standards.

[Anonymous No.8060819]

>>8060043
aussies don't have anything good down there so all they do is make fun of other shit.

just ignore 'em.

[Anonymous No.8060866]

>>8060733
The US is capable of producing quality products, there is just a small amount of people in the US willing to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.8060899]

>>8060194
>whining about HFCS

Really? I thought only americans did that. I figured people in other countries took chemistry in high school and know it's just sugar.

[Anonymous No.8060906]

>>8060484
>fake dairy products
literally what
http://boarshead.com/products/detail/652-american-cheese-loaf-yellow

[Anonymous No.8060910]

Is this an American thing?
Do Americans really do this?
What the frick I h*te America now.

[Anonymous No.8060915]

>>8060545
>Our meat is really gross.

Maybe if you do your grocery shopping at Walmart. Good meat can be found at any decent grocery store or butcher.

The only country where I've had better meat than the US is Japan.

[Anonymous No.8060918]

>>8060866
Ha ha.
In Texas, I never see shit walmart meat, but maybe that's just because I don't hang around with the people these threads obv hang around with.
Maybe quality meat is a Texas thing?
Smoked BBQ brisket, ribs, etc is ubiquitous

[Anonymous No.8060921]

>>8060910
>eurocuck would be thrown in jail if he used hate speech

[Anonymous No.8060936]

People hate American cooking because it is a goddamn war crime lasting for decades

[Anonymous No.8060939]

>>8060211
Your post makes me sad that I share the same country with you. Absolute pleb.

[Anonymous No.8060948]

>>8060043
Question to all non-Americans in this thread.

Would you eat the meal in OP's pic? It's a great representation of a southern American breakfast.

[Anonymous No.8060966]

Nobody hates American cuisine per se, Southern cuisine is just great, actualy, I dream of visiting New Orleans. Americans eating habbits and level of competence in cooking are the objects of criticism and hate, rightfuly so.

[Anonymous No.8060970]

Proof that murricans can cook if they want to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQsJRlPiEVw

[Anonymous No.8061035]

>>8060484
>fake dairy products
Please define fake. American cheese is made from milk and milk constituents.

[Anonymous No.8061342]

>>8060733

I bet you're one of those buttholes who gets all bent out of shape when people call a bowl of noodles in a broth ramen outside of Japan.

[Anonymous No.8061385]

>>8060819
i am american and what is this

[Anonymous No.8061526]

>>8060194
>chemically washed eggs
It's necessary since we wash off the natural coating trying to get the chicken vag leavenings off the eggs.
Considering people leave their eggs sitting in their styrofoam cartons for weeks, a little extra chemical spray doesn't mean shit.

[Anonymous No.8061528]

>>8060948
Not for me

Have always had a issue with the gravy

What is it made from?

[Anonymous No.8061535]

>>8061385
peanut butter cup cookie

[Anonymous No.8061543]

>>8061528
flour milk and sausage fat

[Anonymous No.8061550]

>>8060211
>make due

[Anonymous No.8061552]

>>8061550
Huh?

[Anonymous No.8061581]

>>8060948
>non-americans
Do I count as a non-American for the purposes of this question if I went to university in the US?
I went to school in Amish country and about a third of the kitchen staff were Mennonite or defunct Amish women. A lot of what they cooked was Amish food, which is very, very similar to southern cuisine. One thing they made was biscuits and gravy. I always got mine with a fried egg on top.
I liked it better with pone rather than biscuit. Biscuit is too delicious on its own to slather in gravy, but pone sucks by itself so it's perfect for this, IMHO.

[Anonymous No.8061596]

>>8060043
>Why do people hate on American cooking
Why do people hate American cooking
ftfy.

[Anonymous No.8061608]

>>8060970
This gives me good feels, not as proof that Americans can cook if they want to, but because of her attitude and happiness.

[Anonymous No.8061680]

>>8060211

>American cheese on omelettes.

Holy shit nigger don't do that

[Anonymous No.8061919]

>>8061035

Processed shit. It is not cheese

[Anonymous No.8061922]

Dane here, I have an urge to eat one of those Murrican burgers you post about, not much else.

[Anonymous No.8061923]

HOURLY
COASTAL
OBSESSION
THREAD

[Anonymous No.8061941]

The best breakfast humanity has produced.

[Anonymous No.8061942]

>>8060899
But it has to be processed by the lover first until some other sugars. Your livers not supposed to process that high a % of your daily calories.

[Anonymous No.8061948]

>>8060574
kek
I work for Wegmans in PA
How do you like shopping there?

[Anonymous No.8061949]

>>8061941
And then when you get down to this..

[Anonymous No.8061956]

>>8061949
You add on the biscuits and gravy

I fucking love American breakfast

[Anonymous No.8062043]

>>8060605
>Not a lot of people really cook anymore on a day to day basis

This is 80% of the problem. It leads to people knowing dick about good food

[Anonymous No.8062053]

>>8060948
Does it come without the cat vomit?

[Anonymous No.8062103]

I don't get why so many people on here seem to have such issues with that specific gravy. They will eat any other gravy but holy shit you put ground sausage in it and it's suddenly vomit and disgusting and WTF IS THAT NASTY STUFF? I seriously don't get it.

[Anonymous No.8062154]

>>8062103
Gravy is brown and made from the drippings of roasted meat joints. What you have there is a white sauce and ground sausage. Stop calling it gravy

[Anonymous No.8062159]

>>8061956
>biscuits
>gravy

They are neither of those things. Wew

[Anonymous No.8062175]

>>8062154
It might trigger you even more to know that Americans use "gravy" to refer to tomato sauce.

[Anonymous No.8062176]

>>8062154
It's gravy made from sausage drippings after cooking the sausage you retard. OH MY GOD IT IS NOT GRAVY BECAUSE IT'S MADE FROM SEASONED PORK DRIPPINGS NOT BEEF. Do you even know wtf you're talking about? You cook the sausage, add flour and brown it in the left over fat, add dairy to the amount you need, let it thicken. Wooooo. So different than cook le beef, add flour, add dairy, cook to thickness. So SO SO SO DIFFERENT

[Anonymous No.8062189]

>>8062175
I'm an American and have never heard this.
>>8062159
How so?

[Anonymous No.8062190]

>>8060948
I'd leave the American bacon, since it's basically a shitty version of pancetta. But biscuits and gravy looks good as fuck, will have to make it one day.

[Anonymous No.8062209]

>>8062043
Exactly. Then you have the absolutely bizarre situation where someone decides to cook and sets out to replicate fast and convenience food dishes in their home kitchen because they don't have any idea what home cooking actually is. If you made a list of clasic American regional home cooking dishes there would be a lot of good stuff on there. But few Americans cook that stuff anymore. When they're not eating convenience food they're staring at a chicken breast trying to figure out how to make it into diner. Or just saying fuck it and eating another turkey sandwich.

[Anonymous No.8062213]

>>8061919
>Processed
hahaha buzzword
>>>/reddit/
Everything is "processed"
crack an egg, it's "processed"

[Anonymous No.8062214]

>>8062175
since when?

[Anonymous No.8062215]

>>8062209
Very similar situation in the UK.

[Anonymous No.8062218]

>>8062209
You are actually on to something with this

[Anonymous No.8062224]

>>8062213
>eating cracked eggs
>not just sticking the whole shell in your mouth
Fucking flyovers

[Anonymous No.8062225]

>>8062175
>shit i just made up for keks

[Anonymous No.8062227]

>>8062213
>hasn't learned the FDA guidelines to define processed cheese

Well get a load of this guy!

[Anonymous No.8062231]

>>8062190
>I'd leave the American bacon
wew lad

[Anonymous No.8062245]

>>8062227
Lol. You idiot. We're talking about American cheese, not process cheese.
Process cheese isn't cheese, dick for brains.

[Anonymous No.8062249]

>>8062215
Look at the supermarkets. When you're shopping at a place where more than half the stuff there is ready to eat there isn't all that much incentive to do much in the way of actual cooking.
>>8062218
The only people I know who cook "from scratch" on a daily basis are either immigrants or people who consider cooking their hobby.

[Anonymous No.8062253]

>Processed Cheese
Literally a Swiss abomination.
America has the widest selection of cheese in the world, because America is #1 in trade.
So if you want to brag about your country's cheese, guess what, we have that cheese. Plus a shit ton more. Sorry, but it's the options that make a country patrician.

[Anonymous No.8062256]

>>8062245
American cheese is processed cheese. Unless you're being obtuse and actually mean American-produced cheese.

It ranges between an almost unmeltable plastic-like substance to good sharp cheddar with added emulsifiers.

Your and idiot.

[Anonymous No.8062259]

>>8062256
urine idiot!

[Anonymous No.8062260]

So why does American chocolate have this sour aftertaste to it? Kinda like vomit, especially with the Hersheys chocolate.

[Anonymous No.8062261]

>>8062256
And American Sauce is unheard of in the U.S., so what's your point? If I start a company and start producing "English Ham" and it's literally packaged dogshit, what does that say about English food?

[Anonymous No.8062266]

American cheese is actually sold the world over and not just in America. It's just a name.

[Anonymous No.8062268]

>>8062260
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/02/best-chocolatiers-in-america/50

On another note, why do Ukrainian cherries taste so awful? How do they even select these fruit when they're cherry-picking?

[Anonymous No.8062275]

Why do Spanish pancakes taste so awful!: The Thread

[Anonymous No.8062281]

>>8062268
Thanks for not answering my question, you meta shitposting twat.

[Anonymous No.8062298]

>>8062249

[Anonymous No.8062302]

>>8062298

[Anonymous No.8062307]

>>8062302

[Anonymous No.8062308]

>>8062253
>it's the options that make a country patrician.
Disagree entirely. This is total marketing bullshit. Sure, you can go into an American supermarket and choose among 40 different types/brands of cheese. But few if any of them are really good. You have a wide variety of options standing in for quality. If you want top quality stuff you have to seek out artisan cheese makers. In a place like France you can get that level cheese in the supermarket. Not here.

[Anonymous No.8062310]

>>8062307
What

[Anonymous No.8062314]

>>8062281
>Wahhhhh why instead of taking my shitposting seriously did this guy point out the overarching truth of the situation waaahhhhhhhh

[Anonymous No.8062319]

>>8061552
It's sposta be 'make do'

[Anonymous No.8062321]

>>8061581
Yeah sure, if you only went here for university then you aren't a citizen. Biscuits and gravy is awesome, never had pone though. Is it like scrapple or goetta?

[Anonymous No.8062323]

>>8062314
>literally being this mad on the cooking section of an anonymous Japanese internet board originally created to discuss strange sex cartoons

[Anonymous No.8062325]

>>8062308
You can disagree but you're wrong.
My local Kroger has easily 200 options for cheese and are stacked with artisan cheesemakers.
Sure when I go down to the ghetto they don't have that, but they don't have the money to buy it anyway so that just makes plain sense.
Try crawling your way out of the ghetto and you'll see.

[Anonymous No.8062330]

>>8062053
Yeah, but why wouldn't you want it? It isn't the most appetizing looking but sausage gravy is delicious.

If ya don't like it, more for me.

[Anonymous No.8062333]

>>8062323
>i know how i can deflect from my intense anger vis a vis 'you shitposting twat'
>i'll just call HIM mad because... uh idk lel xD

[Anonymous No.8062342]

>>8060948
Ain't no grits on this plate

>>8061528
It's flour, milk, and fat from whatever you've been cooking. Sometimes it's made with a roux, but I'd never made it that way.

>>8062053
>vomit
I love that people who've never had white breakfast gravy think it looks so disgusting. It's disgustingly unhealthy, but it's delicious.

>>8062175
Stop.

>>8062154
It's made with the fat juices left in the pan after making sausages, so it's still got that. But you're right, it's basically just white sauce. Fuck you, though, I'm still calling it gravy and it's delicious on biscuits.

>>8062260
With a lot of low quality stuff, yes. Though don't always taste it ourselves because we're used it. This crap straight up smells like shit, too. I'm surprised by how little people notice that. During halloween I'm grossed out by the little bags of hersheys to give out to kids because they're smell like fucking poopy dad breath.

>>8062189
In the UK biscuits are cookies and white gravy is pretty much only eaten in the US. Gravy elsewhere never adds milk and is just thickened meat fat/juices.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of people defending American food in this thread. I love being 'Murican and love eatin' like an 'Murican, but we have to admit that as a country we generally have a problem with portion, sugar, and convenience food. Seriously, I grew up eating microwaved hotdogs for dinner because they're cheap and easy. It might be poor people's food but a fat chunk of the middle class is just barely above the poverty line so that shit is extremely common.

[Anonymous No.8062344]

>>8062325
Again this is common in America. Lots of choice replaces quality, because it's much cheaper to offer the customer a wide array of mostly irrelevant options than it is to stock top quality stuff. So we've been sold the idea that choice equals affluence. Which is true to some degree, but not all that meaningful when everything you have access to is mass produced crap.

[Anonymous No.8062346]

>>8062260
It's not all American chocolate, but Hersheys I know uses butyric acid in their chocolate recipe. It's also found in vomit, which explains why a lot of non Americans think it tastes like that.

Personally I think Hersheys sucks.

[Anonymous No.8062348]

>>8062342
....aaand then we got this autistic fuckface over here.

[Anonymous No.8062350]

>>8062342
True, no grits. IMO it'd be redundant cause of the biscuits. But grits are damn good, especially with fried eggs.

[Anonymous No.8062363]

>>8062344
You're just not getting it. Probably because you have no experience at all with basic business.
Options =/= 40 shit options.
Options =
-10 budget options
-10 mainstream options
-10 affluent options
-10 top of the line options

And you simply adjust count to maximize conversion for your surrounding demographics. Have you never experienced commerce?

https://hbr.org/2013/02/why-good-better-best-prices-are-so-effective

[Anonymous No.8062365]

[Anonymous No.8062368]

Who /hotdish/ here?

[Anonymous No.8062371]

>>8062348
Not him, but I don't see any autism in his post, he just seems to have replied to several posts at once. Tbqh, your triggering at this simple consolidation choice is pretty autistic.

[Anonymous No.8062376]

>>8062371
Replying to everyone in the thread is terrible form on 4chan. Not only is it you having to have a little blerb on every post in the thread, but then it fucks up the reply system too. Not to mention that it's always low-quality, there's no specific thing to reply to, and it generally just shits up the thread.

You autistic faggot.

[Anonymous No.8062381]

>>8061342
Not ramen, no. Maybe champagne.

[Anonymous No.8062383]

[Anonymous No.8062387]

>>8062365
I mean I'd eat it but it's pretty darn tall to bite into..?
The bun looks quality.

>>8062376
Haha holy shit you're an autistic idiot. He contributed relevant info to 7 posts, and you just exploded because that was too many posts for you to handle. Gather your panties and go outside. Hell you probably have laundry to do you've been putting off, go do that.

[Anonymous No.8062393]

[Anonymous No.8062396]

I prefer this for breakfast over gravy biscuits. It's easier and faster to cook and I just need to buy the container of it and it's also the cooking pan and plate all in one. No dishes to clean up, no splatter, a hot and healthy breakfast in minutes that tastes great.

[Anonymous No.8062397]

>>8062387
>replying to everyone in the thread is a good thing
Go back to whatever fucking website you came from, because it's always been bad form for the reasons listed on imageboards. This isn't a fucking chatroom.

[Anonymous No.8062398]

[Anonymous No.8062404]

>>8062397
>being this triggered

here, have a bite of America

[Anonymous No.8062406]

>>8062397
>replying to 6 posts is too much for me to handle, so i will sperg out about it
dont get that mess on your monitor, ur mum will ground u

[Anonymous No.8062409]

>>8062404
SKETTY

[Anonymous No.8062411]

>>8062319
No?

[Anonymous No.8062422]

>>8062397
>it's autistic to reply to multiple posts at once but not autistic to sperg out about it

[Anonymous No.8062427]

>>8062397
Well that went well for you, eh?

[Anonymous No.8062531]

>>8062393
That's a Canadian thing.

[Anonymous No.8062534]

>>8062396
>buying frozen creamed chipped beef

Good god man, make it yourself, Stouffer's is shit tier. Wtf is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.8062537]

>>8062409

I thought sketty and butter was part of an over the top south park parody for the longest time but apparently it's actually a thing? I think part of my soul is still in denial

[Anonymous No.8062552]

>>8060866
that's not the point.

Kobe beef is only allowed to be called Kobe beef when it's from Kobe. Kind of like actual champagne is only from that region in France. If it's from anywhere else it's sparkling wine.

Source: I'm from Kobe

[Anonymous No.8062590]

>>8062537
It is a south park parody you idiot. Do you know what a parody is though?
It's parodying honey boo boo, some fatass kid on a reality tv show.

[Anonymous No.8062596]

>>8062590

I thought the recipe itself was a parody. Like you know I don't actually believe that Russell Crowe sails around the world in a tugboat and fights people for fun

[Anonymous No.8062597]

>>8062552
except some american champagnes are actually champagnes tho, so you're point is mute so you're saying kobe bryant cant call his burger kobe beef then huh idiot

[Anonymous No.8062611]

>>8062552
>only allowed to be called
Source you're a dumbass.
Because that's wrong. Any beef is allowed to be called kobe beef.
Only beef produced the true kobe way in kobe IS kobe beef.

I'm sorry the Japanese school system failed you.

[Anonymous No.8062645]

[Anonymous No.8062677]

>>8062611
Kobe beef is a protected designation of origin. Fuck off and be "clever" with your word play somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.8062690]

>>8060058
how do they taste?

[Anonymous No.8062785]

>>8062677
Sorry but you're wrong as fuck. Hence >>8060578
Idiot.

>>8062552
>>8062611
Exactly. It's the exact opposite of the Champagne situation, you monk.

[Anonymous No.8062798]

>>8061526
its a cloaca you retard

[Anonymous No.8062860]

>>8062677
He's right though. Maybe it's different in Europe but in America it doesn't have to be Kobe to be labeled as Kobe.

[Anonymous No.8063098]

>>8062363
That's lovely, except "top of the line" isn't particularly meaningful when the standards are set so very low, as they are in an American supermarket.

[Anonymous No.8063134]

>>8063098
Perhaps you should Google "top of the line".

[Anonymous No.8063150]

>>8062690
Slightly crispy outside, warm and fluffy in the center. Salty with a touch of sweet, usually sliced in half and filled with jam, cheese, or savory fillings.

[Anonymous No.8063192]

>>8062175
This usage is very rare outside of certain areas

[Anonymous No.8063278]

>>8063134
Not him, but there is no need to google it
At american supermarkets "top of the line bread" means the 3 day old pre-sliced whole-grain bread has the USDA organic logo on it