/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.7962848]

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[Anonymous No.7962964]

We are omnivorous in our natural habitat. There are reasons why there are a lot of unhealthy veganias.

[Anonymous No.7962981]

>>7962848
>I'm a pussy who couldn't slaughter his own food
>the thread

There's nothing extreme about peices of an animal

[Anonymous No.7962990]

>>7962848
be vegan or whatever but dont colour ur hair blue when ur 50 jesus christ

[Anonymous No.7962992]

>>7962848
bait

[Anonymous No.7963019]

>Implying anything is wrong with that picture

[Anonymous No.7963034]

>>7962848
Cannibalism is pretty gross, man.

[Anonymous No.7963045]

>pretending strokes/cardiovascular problems aren't directly tied to meat intake

LOL

[Anonymous No.7963050]

>>7963045
>Implying excessive intake of sodium won't lead to strokes or cardiovascular problems in anyone.
>Implying there's anything inherently wrong with eating meat.
>Implying you're not a malnourished retard.

[Anonymous No.7963056]

>>7962848
That looks delicious, fuck you pussy

[Anonymous No.7963057]

>>7962848
Delicious offal thread?

>chicken liver pate
>yum

[Anonymous No.7963063]

>>7963057
I'm getting into breeding rabbits for meat

I'm going to eat hearts and livers by the bucket full

[Anonymous No.7963066]

>>7963050
>>Implying there's anything inherently wrong with eating meat.
There is. Check out Forks Over Knives. It's pleb Intro-tier so you'll probably get it.

Excess sodium is bad for you. That isn't a retort.

Im not malnourished. You're brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.7963079]

>>7963066

[Anonymous No.7963080]

>>7963079
epic

[Anonymous No.7963086]

>>7963080
If you think anyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed, you deserve to get fedora'd.

[Anonymous No.7963094]

>>7963086
No. I think that operating under the assumption that "no meat = malnourished" means that you are quite literally brainwashed.

It isn't a matter of agreeing with me.

[Anonymous No.7963104]

>>7963094
Not just "no meat", anti-any animal products.

[Anonymous No.7963121]

>>7963104
Again, you can be nourished in the absence of animal products. It would blow your mind how important the animal industry is to the world economy. We're raised on animal products. Thereby, most everybody intuitively believes you NEED animal products to live. It's not true. What deficiencies do you propose vegans have?

[Anonymous No.7963130]

>>7963121
>What deficiencies do you propose vegans have?
Testosterone.

[Anonymous No.7963141]

>>7962848
Excellent top quality post, OP. You've really contributed to /ck/ this time.

[Anonymous No.7963147]

>>7963130
nah

Also, they aren't consuming the excess estrogen that's pumped into the animals.

[Anonymous No.7963171]

>>7963147
>Talks about estrogen.
>While ignoring the retarded amounts that are in soy, a staple of any vegan diet.

[Anonymous No.7963176]

>No. I think that operating under the assumption that "no meat = malnourished" means that you are quite literally brainwashed.

It isn't a matter of agreeing with me.

[Anonymous No.7963178]

>>7963121
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1627S.full

>b-12
>calcium
>vitamin d
>ala
>zinc

[Anonymous No.7963181]

>>7963171
Totally

>The ‘soy causes man boobs’ urban legend is thus likely rooted in the confusion between estrogen and phytoestrogen, but, as previously explained, phytoestrogen is not estrogen. If indeed this were the case, there would be a lot of men in need of bras.

>In reality, clinical studies in men show that isoflavones do not affect testosterone levels or circulating estrogen levels. Even at levels of isoflavone exposure significantly higher than those of a typical Asian male consuming a soy rich diet, isoflavones have not been found to have feminizing effects.

Too bad animal products have actual estrogen. Enjoy your titties boys

[Anonymous No.7963189]

>>7963181
>A 2010 review suggested that the sperm count decline and the increasing rate of testicular cancers in the West could be linked to a higher presence of isoflavone phytoestrogens in the diet
Hurp durp

[Anonymous No.7963194]

>>7962848

ITT: sugar addicted meat eaters with inferiority complexes

[Anonymous No.7963196]

>>7963178
Did you read this article at all? Vegans are at a lower risk of cancer, obesity, chronic illness, and have more protective nutrients in their body. Just take vitamins for the deficiencies (which you could just account for in your diet) and you're golden.

You cucked yourself

[Anonymous No.7963201]

>>7963196
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
Enjoy your breast cancer from your soybeans.

[Anonymous No.7963203]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270274/

>>7963181
Source: Some vegan website.

[Anonymous No.7963205]

>>7963189
>could be linked to
>random review article
Are these the same guys that said shampoo/Mountain Dew made you impotent?

protip: suggesting that there MIGHT be CORRELATION (not even causation) means absolutely nothing. This is a joke counter-argument.

[Anonymous No.7963209]

>he wants to live forever
Vegans truly are retarded

[Anonymous No.7963217]

>>7963205
>Random review article
No, it's a peer reviewed article written by:
Heather B. Patisaul and Wendy Jefferson
Department of Biology, NC State University, Raleigh, NC 27695, United States
Laboratory of Reproductive and Developmental Toxicology, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences

I'd call that much more credible than some vegan rag.

[Anonymous No.7963219]

>>7963201
>>7963203
You guys know that a lot of environmental vegans don't eat soy. It's a leading cause of deforestation. Monocrops ain't good, boys. Not at all.

You don't have to eat soy. Personally, this sounds like a load of bunk. The only suggestion they have is don't eat tofu three times a day everyday and you'll probably be fine.

Regardless, you can gain protein elsewhere. This is in no way a counter to the vegan argument. On your side, however, you have an ABUNDANCE of health issues from beef intake alone. What about that?

[Anonymous No.7963227]

>>7963217
Ah. The esteemed nutritionists from NC state.

Again
>suggesting that there MIGHT be CORRELATION (not even causation) means absolutely nothing. This is a joke counter-argument.

[Anonymous No.7963235]

>>7963219
>Back tracking this hard.
Soy is how nearly every vegan gets their protein intake. It's too difficult otherwise.

But I guess you can't suffer all of these negative side effects from vital nutrition sources if you just don't eat in the first place, right?

[Anonymous No.7963249]

>>7962848
>plants are living things
>vegans still eat them
?

[Anonymous No.7963253]

>>7963227
>I don't know how medical and scientific pieces are written.
Did you know that inhaling gasoline is only considered POSSIBLY carcinogenic by the WHO even though it contains benzene.

[Anonymous No.7963256]

>>7963235
>Soy is how nearly every vegan gets their protein intake. It's too difficult otherwise.
>vegans have to eat this one source of protein because I said so

This is a lie you're promoting as fact. You made this up.
Quinoa
Nuts
Beans
Lentils
Chickpeas
Seeds
Definitely edamame

If your argument revolves around soy being imperative to a vegan's diet, you're
wrong.

Inb4 that's too hard
Inb4 ew

[Anonymous No.7963272]

>>7963253
This is an example and thereby all studies (even those that are unabashedly budding) suggesting a possible correlation are correct in their findings AND the correlation then becomes causation.

Perfect. Critical thinking abound.

[Anonymous No.7963279]

>>7963066
why can't I just eat some meat and cheese :/. I'm in great health with an excellent cholesterol and I eat cheese once a day and meat about three times a week and eggs almost never. usually all reduced fat and 93/7 meat unless it's a special occasion. you should promote limiting animal products. I tried to be vegan but didn't like it and turns out I'm not as sympathetic as I once believed, but the message of health still stuck with me that it's better to eat it in moderation and by cheese once a day I mean like a baby bell or something small.

[Anonymous No.7963284]

>>7963256
>If your argument revolves around soy being imperative to a vegan's diet, you're wrong.
It's not imperative, it's just what they eat.

But yeah, enjoy all of your other nutritional deficiencies that have been pointed out. I love that you then have to fall back to
>just take a multivitamin.

Because, as we all know, vegans have such fantastic and balanced diets that they need to take multivitamins else they cannot get vital nutrients.

[Anonymous No.7963288]

>>7963272
>If the findings are upsetting to me, I'll just ignore them!
Talk about being brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.7963302]

>>7963066
ALL your ancestors back to (at least) 50,000 years ago ate meat.
Think what you will but you ARE a meat eater.

[Anonymous No.7963305]

>>7963066
>It's pleb Intro-tier so you'll probably get it.
>ad hominem in 2016
>discarded

[Anonymous No.7963310]

>>7963279
You're fine. There are negligible health differences in full vegan and Mediterranean diets. Its the full western meat-every-single-meal diet that is poison. I dont eat animal products by choice but im not a dick about it. If my parents or girlfriend cook for me (or there simply isn't another option) I'll eat whatever. I like your mentality.

>>7963284
Taking a multivitamin seems a nicer alternative to consuming copious amounts of growth hormones and antibiotics but hey, whatever you like I suppose.

>>7963288
I don't even eat soy. It doesn't do much for me. There are tons of findings that contradict eachother. I posted one earlier in the thread. I just don't take studies (especially new ones) as conclusive evidence for causation.

[Anonymous No.7963346]

>>7963310
yeah I could NEVER go back to eating meat and cheese for every meal. even when I tried out keto for losing weight quickly I ate vegetables and peanut butter all day. I used to eat like that and I don't understand how. and yeah same as far as ethics go if someone buys if and its an animal product I might as well eat it as the damage is done. I just wish the consumption would go down and animal agriculture would be left in the hands of small farmers and people could pay more for something waaaay better than shit covered toxic meat

[Anonymous No.7963369]

>>7963346
EXACTLY. Exact same mentality. I probably won't be vegan forever but im really enjoying it right now. I'll probably transition into a Mediterranean diet in the coming years. i just hate the animal industry so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.7963371]

>>7963310
>>7963346
I'm too lazy to write a long post, but I'm doing pretty much the same stuff like you two, I just like soy products as well. Not soy milk though, that shit's fucked.
Some time ago I had some vegan patties from Aldi Süd. Pretty good. Not the same as meat ones, but not worse, just a little different. Would recomend.

[Anonymous No.7963519]

>vegans

[Anonymous No.7963627]

The most extreme part of veganism is forgoing all dairy and eggs

[Anonymous No.7963643]

>>7963627
cashew cheese and coconut whipped cream are quite good
not the same as cheese but I have happily swapped to eating them

[Anonymous No.7963650]

>>7963643
daiya is fucking garbage desu. what cashew cheese brand do you eat? I'm looking for more of a spread with lots of herbs that I won't notice isn't cheese

[Anonymous No.7963656]

>>7963643
Reducing all cheese into one variety differentiated with various flavorings is a damn shame

[Anonymous No.7963663]

>>7963650
Daiya is shit agree, and this is my go to herby cheese recipe gotten off google when I started making my own

sadly I've never found a brand that wasn't ass so we're stuck doing it ourselves anon
http://minimalistbaker.com/garlic-herb-vegan-cheese/

[Anonymous No.7963667]

>>7963656
yeah one reason why I'm not fully vegan is gourmet cheese

[Anonymous No.7963670]

>>7963656
a choice I've made but it is MY choice, as is the decision to swap to a vegan diet yours.

I do miss me some breadcheese tho

[Anonymous No.7963797]

>>7963066

>Excess something is bad for you

That's why we refer to it as being in excess, ie. Too much.

[Anonymous No.7963848]

>>7963627
macadamia milk > whole dairy milk

eggs = fucking gross bro

[Anonymous No.7964309]

>>7962848
I have no problem with people who are vegans, but I fucking hate "Vegans".

If you don't want to eat animal products, that's fine. I don't care. Do what you want.

The people in the Vegan community on the other hand are the most cancerous annoying preachy cunts on the internet. And if you are one of those then kill yourself as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.7964315]

>>7963848
>eggs = fucking gross

[Anonymous No.7964379]

>>7963848
>eggs
>gross

Fuck off Guy Fieri