/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.7800395]

What would it take for you to go vegan?
And I mean what's the least it would take, not I would go vegan for a million dollars
If someone came up to me and offered to cover all my food expenses as lo g as I remain vegan I would be vegan for a couple of months

[Anonymous No.7800401]

>>7800395

once I stop getting diarrhea if I eat beans on more than one meal a day I might consider it

[Anonymous No.7800404]

If someone covered all food expenses i would do it but i doubt i would last for a couple months. Maybe a week

[Anonymous No.7800480]

A concrete study thats shows that having a balanced diet and exercise is bad for your health.

[Anonymous No.7800488]

seeing news articles about how meat processing is getting unsustainable so soon western countries will have to get used to insects as part of their diet.

it is THEN that i will go vegan.

[Anonymous No.7800505]

>>7800488
Insects are pretty tasty.

[Anonymous No.7800514]

>>7800505
i just can't do it, anon

[Anonymous No.7800517]

>>7800395
for meat to be vegan

[Anonymous No.7800521]

Good pussy did it for me for a couple years until we broke up

[Anonymous No.7800522]

>>7800395
>What would it take for you to go vegan?

Proof that it's a sustainable lifestyle without multivitamins, proof that animal protein isn't vital for human development.

There are a ton of PETA celebrities billed as "the world's tallest vegan" or "the world's strongest vegan," but they all became vegans AFTER finishing puberty.

Joaquin Phoenix is 5'8" and became a vegan at the age of 3. His brother River Phoenix is 5'10" and became a vegan at the age of 8.

The aforementioned "world's tallest vegan" is from the Czech Republic, a country with one of the highest rates of red meat consumption in the world, and only became vegan late in his life.

Show me multiple examples of children raised on vegan diets and growing to the heights of Scandinavians, Dinarics, and African Pastoralists, and I'll concede that animal protein isn't a necessary part of the human diet.

[Anonymous No.7800526]

>>7800522
Anon, are you not over puberty yet?

[Anonymous No.7800548]

I'm fairly well off already, so grocery costs are trivial for me. Offering to cover my food costs wouldn't do it for me at all. I love meat, it'd have to be something very significant in terms of a quality of life improvement for me.

Something in the neighborhood of an offer of multiple millions of dollars son that I'd be able to travel more or something. Completely serious here, it would take something that significant too get me to give up animal products. Hell even just going vegetarian is gonna be a no-go without serious compensation.

[Anonymous No.7800555]

>>7800522
The Dutch are the tallest people in the world on average, and guess what their diet is famous for? Tons of dairy and beef.

A couple hundred years ago, when the Dutch were less about agriculture and more about mercantilism, they were famous for being amongst the shortest Europeans in the world.

Makes you think.

[Anonymous No.7800602]

Fairly priced and readily available lab raised meat. Hard evidence that a vegan diet is objectively healthier and will prolong my lifespan. OP's pic looks fucking delicious.

[Anonymous No.7800640]

>>7800395
>What would it take for you to go vegan?

All animal food products taken off the market and the sale and consumption of them made illegal punishable by hefty fines and/or jail time.

[Anonymous No.7800664]

>>7800514

you can get like insect flour and use it in baking breads and flatbreads

then you don't have to actually see the bugs

[Anonymous No.7800674]

>"hurr durr vegans r t3h g4y"
>go to vegan meetup, no gays
>go to gay bar, no vegan food

[Anonymous No.7800692]

Meat not being delicious.

[Anonymous No.7800705]

Would never go vegan.

Hunting is deep within human culture, both spiritually and as a necessity for survival.
Just pay your respects to whatever animal you dispatch and enjoy living another day.

[Anonymous No.7800709]

>>7800395
For me it was simple. The doctor put me on cholesterol medicine, and I didn't want to take it. So I started exercising, eaing better and lost 40lbs. She still kept me on a low dose. So I tried going vegan for a couple months and stopped taking the pills. Lost another few pounds, had my blood work done and my cholesterol was fine. Stopped gooing to the doctor and have stuck with a mostly vegan diet since.

I'm not dogmatic about it. I still eat meat, cheese and seafood, but like once or twice a week or so. Keeps my middle aged ass trim, which it most definitely was not eight years ago when the doctor put me on cholesterol medicine.

[Anonymous No.7800734]

>>7800395
If nutrient supplements became incredibly cheap (say, $1/bottle or less) I would consider it. I'd want meat and dairy substitutes to consistently taste good, be readily available in my area, and not cost me an arm and a leg to purchase too. Like I tried some Yves hot dogs recently and goddamn did they taste bad. If I'm remembering right those Morningstar Farms ones tasted damn good, haven't had them in over a decade though. Too bad they don't sell them around here.

[Anonymous No.7800740]

>>7800734

You want the supplements to cost less than a dollar per BOTTLE? that's nuts. Imho they are already very cheap--just a few bucks for hundreds.

[Anonymous No.7800745]

>>7800395
>And I mean what's the least it would take, not I would go vegan for a million dollars
That pretty much IS the least it would take, familia.

[Anonymous No.7800750]

>>7800740
OP wanted to know what would make us switch. I understand that they're already fairly cheap, but cheaper is always better. I'm sure they cost next to nothing to produce anyway.

[Anonymous No.7800755]

>>7800395
I'd never be vegan.
I would consider going ovo-lacto vegetarian (I don't eat a lot of dairy, but I'd want some occasionally, but I can't give up eggs), but I'd never, ever, EVER consider going vegan. Veganism is more of a mental illness than a life diet.

[Anonymous No.7800765]

>>7800734
B12 is dirt cheap. What I've ballparked to be optimal dosage for homocysteine minimization (much more than needed to prevent neurological deficiency) costs me $4/year. That's the only supplement I take *on account of being vegan*.

[Anonymous No.7800770]

>>7800395
I would go vegan for $1,000,000. If there's any stipulations though, I worm my way out of the agreement an repayment as soon as I could manage

[Anonymous No.7800816]

I would need to get to fuck any one I want because I am not worried about sustaining shit.

[Anonymous No.7800825]

I would go vegan if someone cooked me my vegan meals. I'd even pay for the ingredients because vegetables are dirt cheap and I could use the extra money I save from not buying meat.

[Anonymous No.7800841]

>>7800825
That and your shit hardly stinking were two unexpected benefits when I went vegan.

[Anonymous No.7800857]

>>7800522
Many people take multivitamins, many people are not vegan. Stupid argument, the only thing you would need to supplement is B12 which a lot of livestock themselves are supplemented with

>proof that animal protein isn't vital for human development

It isn't. There's nothing that proves this to begin with

>ton of PETA celebreties billed as world's tallest vegan

Never heard of anything like that, height is almost entirely genetic anyways barring an incredibly malnourished diet

[Anonymous No.7800892]

>>7800841
I don' care about the shit smell, I rather like the way my shit stinks. The money though... if only I knew a few exceptionally good vegan recipes, I probably would go vegan.

[Anonymous No.7800895]

Would you go vegan to feel this man's masculine vagina?

[Anonymous No.7800907]

>>7800857
>There's nothing that proves this to begin with

Except that there is not a single vegan civilization in all of history, only ovo-lacto vegetarian.

Even the Dalai Lama eats meat "every other day" in his own words. Tibetan Buddhists aren't allowed to kill animals, but they all buy meat from muslims because vegetables don't grow up there.

[Anonymous No.7800910]

I feel like some of these answers aren't really answering the question. How about this...

The least it would take is the opportunity to work alongside some cooks whose food I like. I'd want to know at least two dozen different recipes by heart.

There's this guy in my city who makes the most bangin' baba ghanoush. Mine just isn't the same. If it tasted like his, I could see myself eating that several times a week if not every single day.

I've tried a lot of Morningstar products, and I just can't stomach them. But I fucking love falafel, hummus, lentils, baba ghanoush, vegetable curry, etc.

[Anonymous No.7800981]

>>7800892
The problem is most of the really good, cheap vegan recipes tend to be time/labor intensive. My diet is delicious and cheap as fuck, but I spend a lot of time cooking.

[Anonymous No.7801019]

>>7800981
I spend a lot of time cooking as is so I'm not sure that would bother me. Maybe I should look up recipes and learn a few. I can't stop eating meat until I know a few awesome vegan recipes by heart.

You got a few links to great recipes?

[Anonymous No.7801038]

If I had no job and someone gave me a subsidy of, say, $100 a week, I'd do it for a six month commitment

If I had to fit it in with my existing job, I'd still try it but bump it to $300 a week, since I'd be eating out a lot

[Anonymous No.7801061]

>for a couple of months

Seriously? If someone offered to pay for all my food I would be vegan forever.

[Anonymous No.7801367]

The only thing that would make me go vegan would be a lack of availability of meat protein.

If there was a law passed against eating meat proteins, however, I'd kill and eat the people that supported that law, rather than submit to vegan faggotry.

[Anonymous No.7801398]

>>7801367
I like you.

[Anonymous No.7801402]

>>7800395
Concoct a meat substitute that has a taste and texture as good as a decent piece of meat. Make sure its easy for me to get at any store. Sell it for at least 25% less than an equivalent amount of meat.

I've tasted "Beyond Meat" imitation chicken strips. They really do hit the spot in the same way a piece of chicken does, and I appreciate how much less resource-intensive they are compared to real meat, but they're not going to be a regular part of my diet when the only store in town that carries them charges 8 fucking dollars for a 12 oz package when I can get a pound of chicken for 4. You can't crow about how your peas and soybeans require a smaller investment of water, energy, land, and whatnot and then expect me to pay MORE than the food you're trying to replace just to feel good about how green I am.

[Anonymous No.7801412]

>>7801402
>how much less resource-intensive they are compared to real meat,

Proof, or GTFO. Manufacturing imitation food products takes up tons of resources.

[Anonymous No.7801413]

>>7801367
That's pretty edgy, anon.

[Anonymous No.7801415]

>>7801413
that guy's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.7801418]

>>7801413
Not as edgy as being a vegan to "save the animals/environment"...

[Anonymous No.7801444]

>>7801418
There are other reasons to be vegan.

[Anonymous No.7801445]

If tofu tasted good without being deep fried

[Anonymous No.7801454]

if I had a nice ladyfriend that'd cook veggie meals that i genuinely found delicious (i'd help if she'd teach me) i'd be more than happy to switch

as is, throwing eggs meat and spices into a pan is pretty easy for a bachelor down on his luck

i think veganism is correct from a moral perspective and expect the first world to be vegan within the next millenia

[Anonymous No.7801468]

>>7801444
Now THAT'S edgy...

[Anonymous No.7801490]

>>7801454
>i think veganism is correct from a moral perspective

Right.

Because raising and eating animals for food is somehow less noble than destroying their environment to build shopping malls, roads, factories, houses, and vegetable gardens...

[Anonymous No.7801511]

>>7801468
>man concerned with his own personal health
>edgy

[Anonymous No.7801514]

>>7801490
How does a vegetable garden destroy the environment?

[Anonymous No.7801533]

>>7801514
He's saying we have bigger problems than meat consumption. Veganism is like celebrities caring about access to clean water in Africa. It's feel-good, armchair philanthropy that only white Americans care about, and doesn't actually make the world a better place for anything but the shortest of short terms.

[Anonymous No.7801539]

>>7800395
Access to some kind of insight that will save the world from a peril such as climate change, xenophobia, nationalism, dwindling power resources etc.

[Anonymous No.7801543]

>>7801533
Are you saying clean water is not a problem in Africa?

What are these bigger problems, anyway? How does the average person contribute to solving them?

[Anonymous No.7801550]

>>7801533
>veganism is vegetarianism
>only white people have ethics

[Anonymous No.7801553]

Animal products would have to be unavailable or prohibitively expensive, like if we were doing some sort of space travel or I lived on a small island. Seeing as I don't live on a small island, space travel tech would probably include some sort of synthesized meat stuff, so I'll probably never go vegan unless meat gets hella pricy.

[Anonymous No.7801583]

>>7801514
Gee, I don't know....maybe it's the pesticides used to kill the insects, which in turn poisons / eliminates the critters that eat the insects, which in turn kills / poisons the critters that eat the critters that eat the insects.

Or maybe it's the destruction of the environment used to create the garden, which often times requires the clearing of forest / jungle to create the space needed to plow and sow the fields for vegetables and grains.

It might also have something to do with the repeated application of fertilizer, and the issues that creates in the run-off water that pollutes our rivers and streams.

There's no free lunch, vegan, and agriculture for vegan fags kills the shit out of animals the same as ranching and raising animals for food. The only difference is that when animals die due to loss of habitat, they're gone forever, unlike the animals that are cared for and raised for food proteins.

Pic related: surely no animals were harmed in the creation of that field for agriculture.....

[Anonymous No.7801600]

>>7801583
That doesn't really address the guy's question though. It takes about 10x as much land to raise meat than it does to grow plants for people to eat. There are plenty of valid arguments for animal protein, but you're not going to win on the land use issue.

[Anonymous No.7801625]

>>7800395

For vegetables to not cost more than meat. Thanks, Obama.

[Anonymous No.7801694]

>>7800522
I remember when that anon posted tons of articles on vegan kids and how it fucks up their teeth and makes them look malnourished. I don't care about adult vegans but it certainly turned my eye to why extreme diets arent good for developing babes.

plus you know, all those dead actual babies from vegan parents due to malnutrition

[Anonymous No.7801704]

>>7800395
As other anons have said, they'd have to pay for it all and cook it for me. It would have to be delicious to my vege hating palate because Im a child.

DESU I'd probably deep fry everything and still be a massive fat ass, vegan or not.

but it all wages on whether or not theres a good vegan mayo. plz respond

[Anonymous No.7801724]

I'd have to make an exception for fish because fishing is my outdoor hobby

Maybe just go vegan because of factory farm ethics or something idk

[Anonymous No.7801734]

>>7801583

>eliminates the critters that eat the insects, which in turn kills / poisons the critters that eat the critters that eat the insects
They will straight up kill the critters too, dont worry about second hand poison. Herbivores still exist. Birds are the number one hated pest in garden because they eat the seed, hunters are often employed to kill birds in fields so they dont return (new ones always do eventually)

>fertilizer
They all have animal products in them kek. You can make your own vegan fert from compost with no animal products in it but its not nearly as good as all the sweet sweet animal parts. Plants love meat too.


As someone who has worked in both Plant based industries and Meat ones (Currently work in a meat factory) I get so fucking butt mad at how thick vegans are when they say they want a vegan world. They've never actually though about it seriously and the massive, massive issues that it would cause. It would destroy countries and kill millions of people. It's completely infeasible.

And look I have no problem with people being vegan, I really dont, just dont act like we're all the devil for eating meat and the world would be a utopia if we all converted.

[Anonymous No.7801753]

A million dollars

[Anonymous No.7801765]

>>7801600
>It takes about 10x as much land to raise meat than it does to grow plants for people to eat.

A cow and calf need about 1.5 to 2 acres of forage for a year, and a side of beef can feed a family for about a year.

Meanwhile, according to estimates I've read, it takes anywhere from 1/4 acre to 2 acres to grow enough shit to feed a family of 4 for a year.

That seems pretty comparable, and while I love my veggies with my protein, you can survive off of cows blood and milk alone, like the Masai, while it takes a variety of veggies to keep you healthy.

[Anonymous No.7801813]

>>7800674
Gays love a nice tubesteak in their mouth

[Anonymous No.7801821]

>>7801765
>while it takes a variety of veggies to keep you healthy.

Not healthy cuz B12/D/iron etc. Vegans need fortified foods and drugs to survive.

[Anonymous No.7801825]

>>7801821
The only reason meat eaters don't is that the farmers are giving those pills to the animals

Vegans are just cutting out the middleman

[Anonymous No.7801831]

>>7801825

[Anonymous No.7801834]

>>7801825
Nope. Livestock grazing on grass doesn't have B12 deficiency. Also, inb4 Cobalt B12. It's used to treat cobalt deficiency in cattle, and B12 injections are only given to severely deficient animals with poor nutrition, the same injections are given to vegans because they also have poor nutrition. Ask any doctor.

[Anonymous No.7801854]

>>7801834
Let's be real here, most meat eaters, at least in the US, are not eating grass fed beef. The kind of people who militantly argue against cutting back on meat consumption are eating cutter-grade mystery meat from animals that drank a steady diet of antibiotics to go with their troughs of corn and soy

[Anonymous No.7801858]

>>7801854
So go vegan so you have take the complexes that the cows take instead? lmao

[Anonymous No.7801867]

>>7801858
Minus the antibiotics, I guess? If I couldn't afford good meat, I'd definitely go vegetarian before eating the crap most people eat.

[Anonymous No.7801893]

>>7800522
>>7801694

[Anonymous No.7801899]

>>7801893

[Anonymous No.7801905]

>>7801899

[Anonymous No.7801909]

>>7801854
>Let's be real here, most meat eaters, at least in the US, are not eating grass fed beef.
You can literally read on wikipedia that Canada and USA are the only countries that predominantly raise their cattle on corn.

[Anonymous No.7801913]

>>7800395
op here, when i made this thread i wasnt expecting this amount of autism. Shame its too late to delete it

[Anonymous No.7801914]

>>7801905

[Anonymous No.7801920]

>>7801914

[Anonymous No.7801924]

>>7801914
Go on..

[Anonymous No.7801925]

>someone covers your food expenses
>food also happens to be the absolute cheapest shit available

fuck that
I would go vegan if there was no meat left anywhere in the world other than resorting to cannibalism

[Anonymous No.7801926]

>>7801920

[Anonymous No.7801934]

>>7801926

[Anonymous No.7801939]

>>7801934

[Anonymous No.7801940]

>>7801909
The USA is the largest beef producer in the world

[Anonymous No.7801944]

>>7801939

[Anonymous No.7801947]

>>7801944

[Anonymous No.7801948]

>>7801913
You didn't know about the hamplanets who spend 60+ hours a week lurking /ck/ waiting for an excuse to post the one about the vegan breast feeding?

[Anonymous No.7801957]

>>7801947

[Anonymous No.7801964]

>>7801957

[Anonymous No.7801970]

>>7801948
>>7801964
>>7801913

[Anonymous No.7801975]

>>7801970

[Anonymous No.7801980]

>>7801970
Sup at least we're not the south guy. Can we see a screenshot of your special 4chan drive where you keep all these crapflood folders? I want to see how it's organized and labeled.

[Anonymous No.7801981]

>>7800401
I heard the more beans you eat the more tolerance you build, it's because it takes time for your body to produce the right enzyme or something

[Anonymous No.7801983]

>>7801975

[Anonymous No.7801987]

>>7801983
>>7801980

[Anonymous No.7801999]

>>7801987

[Anonymous No.7802007]

>>7801999

[Anonymous No.7802012]

>>7802007

[Anonymous No.7802016]

>>7802012

[Anonymous No.7802018]

>>7801987
Folder pls. I can see you're having a 'tism tantrum so let that run its course first, so you don't choke. But when done, I'd like to see the folder.

[Anonymous No.7802020]

>>7802016

[Anonymous No.7802026]

>>7801940
It's not the largest export which is what actually matters in this context, and what it does export is mostly to mexico. It's had a recent boost in years due to demand in China, but on a good year it gets outclassed by fucking New Zealand. Australia is the biggest exporter and it's all pasture raised and grass fed.

[Anonymous No.7802027]

>>7802018
>>7802020

[Anonymous No.7802031]

>>7802027
thats the one I remember

[Anonymous No.7802034]

>>7802026
>>7802027

Based Australian gov.

[Anonymous No.7802037]

Vegetarian, yes. I've done that.

Vegan, Not likely.

[Anonymous No.7802040]

>>7802034
Based USA gov as well.

[Anonymous No.7802060]

>>7801975
Holy shit, she is turning into gollum

[Anonymous No.7802061]

>>7802040
Bite Size Vegan, Vegan Gains & Light Twins respectively.

[Anonymous No.7802067]

>>7802061
Note that the turds above went vegan after they were fully developed.

[Anonymous No.7802095]

Did a noble internet warrior just fill out the captcha 31 times in the span of 40 minutes to defeat veganism? M'lord, I tip my brim at thee. Truly you have defeated superstition and brought enlightenment to this ecuadorian banana forum. Did I do the meme right?

[Anonymous No.7802112]

>>7802095
>Did I do the meme right?

No, but you kept up with it throughout the 40 minutes like a true aspie on a Bangladeshi dogmeat eating hideout would.

[Anonymous No.7802125]

>>7802112
Actually, in the time you've been filling out captchas, I cooked and ate dinner (ćevapčići with hot ajvar and farmer cheese), cleaned up, emailed my mom, and shitposted on 2 other boards

But it's noble of you to selflessly sacrifice your life for The Cause, m'lord

[Anonymous No.7802136]

>>7802125
>[add a comment to this blog entry]

(((You)))

[Anonymous No.7802151]

>>7802136
31 captchas in 40 minutes to "win" an argument that exists mostly in your head

Did you ever think your life would turn out like this, anon?

[Anonymous No.7802163]

>>7802151
Script and stop trying to make this about (You). It's not about (You).

[Anonymous No.7802172]

>>7802125
Things that didn't happen: the post.

[Anonymous No.7802199]

>>7802172
>no one here cooks
You're right about that. Let's return to complaining that the Joey thread got deleted, all this talk about productive activity makes me uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.7802227]

If John Sakars offered to lick my vegan vagina

[Anonymous No.7802233]

>>7800488
gardein fake meats taste better than crickets at this point

[Anonymous No.7802264]

Keks to be had at 16:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_WtvH5DOg

[Anonymous No.7802275]

>>7800395
For 1 million dollars I'd consider it, 2 million definitely.

I love meat and would definitely miss it, but 2 million if properly invested and maintain is basically "live very comfortably and never have to work another day for the rest of your life" money. I don't think I could turn that down.

[Anonymous No.7802411]

>>7801724
>not just selling the fish you catch in a can with Cyrillic text and antifreeze and using the rubles to buy yourself some fake-fish

[Anonymous No.7802420]

>>7800395
If you eat cultured meat and not meat from slaughtered animals, does that make you a vegan?

[Anonymous No.7802986]

>>7800401
That's not normal.

[Anonymous No.7803057]

>>7800395
I would have to develop severe lactose intolerance. I barely eat any meat as it is, so that wouldn't be a problem.

[Anonymous No.7803145]

artificial cheeses that are identical to hard cheeses like parmesan and pecorino, all rounders like cheddar and melters like mozzarella
also a jarlsberg analogue because thats my favourite cheese.
also a protien/fat liquid that acts exactly like eggs.
also artificial bacon that doesn't suck.

other than that theres already vegetarian hotdogs/bbq sausages and tvp for mince based foods like spagbol and chilli con carne.

[Anonymous No.7803159]

Nothing much, I am almost vegan. I just still eat shellfish because they have good nutrients while still not possessing a brain/nervous system. I see no moral problem with it even though it's not technically vegan.

[Anonymous No.7803160]

>>7802264
there is yeast in the dough
what a cuck pussy faggot

[Anonymous No.7803165]

>>7803159
then why do lobsters and crabs scream when boiled alive?

[Anonymous No.7803175]

>>7803165
isn't that just steam escaping.

in any case there are different kinds of shellfish, some are more complex. i wouldn't really feel comfortable doing the this-kills-the-crab head slice maneuver.

[Anonymous No.7803185]

>>7803175
>isn't that just steam escaping.
no, it doesn't happen when you put the knife through their head
it doesn't happen when you put them on ice until they're barely moving (puts them into hibernation)

[Anonymous No.7803193]

>>7801821
To be fair we're all surviving off fortified foods here in the first world, Without them we had rickets, goiter, beriberi, neural tube defects, etc. until the government stepped in. Animal products aren't a panacea apparently.

[Anonymous No.7803204]

>>7801939
>eat meat
>become high test

[Anonymous No.7803265]

>>7803165
Those are screams of joy, Anon.

[Anonymous No.7803278]

>>7803185
>Invoking emotional bullshit to validate comment

Lobsters and crabs have no vocal chords, retard. It's just air trapped under the shell that when heated expands and escapes, making a sharp sound.

Video related.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XYDBhmHvI6g

Vegans believe the dog in the video is "protecting" the dead dog, when it was merely attempting to hump and mate with the corpse.

[Anonymous No.7803280]

>>7802986
It is for someone who doesn't get enough fiber regularly

[Anonymous No.7803296]

>>7803278
>Lobsters and crabs have no vocal chords
I stan corrected, still doesn't explain why they scream when alive and don't scream when chilled

[Anonymous No.7803347]

>>7803296
>Lobsters magically scream without a throat, vocal chords or lungs.

I can't comprehend physics or biology so I will resort to esoteric bullshit to try to save my face after being BTFO: the post

[Anonymous No.7803360]

>>7803296
>still doesn't explain why they scream when alive and don't scream when chilled

Hot air expands, cold air contracts. It's just air coming out of a lobster when boiled. Lrn2tophysics.

[Anonymous No.7803371]

>>7803278
but they are not incorrect in thinking dogs actually can/do protect each other (maybe not in that situation but other times)

your implications are stupid

[Anonymous No.7803470]

>>7800395
Someone preparing and paying for my food.
Look at your picture op, do you think that was done within 15-30 minutes?

[Anonymous No.7803475]

>>7800395
Good god that looks awful

[Anonymous No.7804972]

I've been trying to figure out a good substitute for parmesan in pasta dishes. They're pretty bland without that sharp, tangy flavour.

Have you guys had any luck with vegan cheeses? (I've only ever seen cheddar and mozzarella.)

[Anonymous No.7805691]

>>7800395
I'll do it when fake dairy products will be just as tasty, cheap and easy to find as the real ones.
I don't need to stop eating eggs because I have chicken and turkeys.
I stopped eating meat and fish years ago so that's not a problem.

[Anonymous No.7805720]

>>7801914
>>7801905
>sentenced to life
That seems abit harsh for a couple of retards.

[Anonymous No.7805737]

>>7804972
for parm, I pulse toasted cashews, nutritional yeast which has a cheesey-umami flavor, salt, and garlic powder. It's super good.

Here's some of my vegan sushi pr0n for y'all

[Anonymous No.7805756]

>>7804972
>with vegan cheeses

No such thing.

[Anonymous No.7805769]

>>7800395
When they make a meat alternative that looks, tastes, smells, and feels as good or better than meat.


Until then, I'll enjoy my steak, bacon, and bone marrow.>>7800395

[Anonymous No.7805779]

>>7800640

Probably this.

Even though half of my meals are vegetarian. For me to outright avoid all animal products would be pretty impossible considering the fact that I live in a jungle. So I don't have access to kahl, quinoa, soy, most beans and many nuts, b12 supplements and so on

Hell anytime I look up a recipe for something I have to substitute at least half the ingredients because we dont have walmart or tescos or whatever the hell

[Anonymous No.7806003]

I have a rather complicated nervous system disorder in my upper G.I. and I literally couldn't go vegan. It's actually one of the biggest fuels for my culinary passion.

[Anonymous No.7806201]

an asian wife to shop, prepare, and clean up large vegan meals for me daily
i fucking hate cooking /ck/ but its the only thing im good at.

[Anonymous No.7806333]

>>7800505
Bugs wouldn't be that bad as a food source if they were ground into a dust/meal for cooking. It would be good for eating cheap but fuck off it you're going to charge more than regular meat for it.

[Anonymous No.7806344]

>>7800395
Honestly id go vegan if it was just more convenient. Most of my meals are already inadvertantly vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.7807354]

>>7800522
>River Phoenix
>is

[Anonymous No.7807709]

>>7801765
I'm not that guy, and not vegan but yeah... you aren't going to win on this issue.

Its not feasible that a family of four could even survive on 1 cow a year, and to fit the 2 acre rule you suggested, they would have to fit the whole herd on that land, not just buy 1 new cow a year (which would have taken agricultural space to mature).

The family would need around 3M calories a year. If they were purely eating animal protein from their own herd, they would be consuming the mass that the cows put on each year. Let's assume they have a small herd of 10 for arguments sake, and that a cow weighs 10x one family member. The herd of cows needs to eat 75M calories from the land every year to sustain itself, and 3M on top to feed the family.

My point is: how much less land might you need for growing 3M calories in grains and vegetables than 78M calories of grass?

[Anonymous No.7807748]

>>7801939
>800 cals a day

okay but that's just plain stupidity it had nothing to do with being a vegan

[Asshat No.7807768]

If I went vegan I would have to have killed someone, as it seems all vegans are assholes.

[Anonymous No.7807784]

The only reason i'm not vegan is because i like Honey, Wool and Eggs. Otherwise i would gladly become one.

[Anonymous No.7807816]

Continuously? I think I would do it for $300 a day

If it's a day by day thing, like if I were vegan that day I get a reward, I think $75 would be enough

I like cheese too much tho

[Anonymous No.7807881]

>>7807709

And to fit the 2 acre rule, as suggested by some in the agricultural community, a family would have to fit all their crops on that 2 acres, as well.

The amount of land is comparable, and certainly not "10 x the amount needed to produce meat", as claimed.

Add to the issue the need to water and fertilize the crops, and to somehow protect them from insects and other pests, and there doesn't seem to be any clear advantage to either approach, as claimed by vegans.

[Anonymous No.7807888]

all it would take is for my mom to be vegan since she does the grocery shopping

[Anonymous No.7807894]

>>7807768
You could start with yourself

[Anonymous No.7807922]

>>7800395
>For meat to stop being tasty
>For vitamin A to be gotten from plants instead of fish eyes
>for it not to be retarded
desu senpai

[Anonymous No.7807998]

>>7800395
If someone covered all food expenses indefinitely, I would do it.

[Anonymous No.7808490]

>>7807881
2 acres seems like plenty of space to me.
>you'll have to somehow water them and keep pests away

Growing vegetables isn't as perilious as you're implying... especially since small holdings use mixed planting whereas feed for cattle is monoculture. Anyway, the point was less about self suffienciency and more for demonstration of the food energy production rate of a given area of land.

As per my estimation, I believe it would take 10x the area of land to farm meat than to farm vegetation for humans.

[Anonymous No.7808834]

Why is it always beef with you americans. You can run way more sheep on the same space as cows and get more meat. On top of that you get fleece. BUT people that grow their own meat normally grow their own feed. you have to feed out in the winter months and that means hay.

BUT with plants, you only need one fuck up and you're dead. One infestation or incurable plant base disease and your crops can be wiped out. Shit summer? Dead. Too much rain? Dead. Too much sun and your plants bolt? dead Planted your seeds under a bird migration? Hope you're willing to start shooting some bird or you'll have no seed left. Got a bad bag of seed? Dead because no of them germinated and you missed your window of opportunity to plant more.

Animals are more more hardy than plants will ever be, can be cured easy of ailments and have much better self preservation skills. A cow could beat the shit out of a coyote but a head of cabbage can't do shit against a neighbours wandering chicken.

[Anonymous No.7808877]

Motivation

[Anonymous No.7808891]

>>7808834
Because beef and chicken are the only meats we're familiar with. Eating sheep? I've never heard of it so it must be vegan. Why are vegans always trying to take away muh hamboigahs? As you can see from my pointy teeth, we were Intelligently Designed to eat meat. And by meat, I mean of course specifically those meats that I can find at my local Piggly-Wiggly or the nearest fast food Drive-Thru®, and literally nothing else.

[Anonymous No.7808960]

>>7808891
>>>>/tumblr/

[Anonymous No.7808966]

>>7808490
>As per my estimation, I believe it would take 10x the area of land to farm meat than to farm vegetation

And I have yet to find a single source that even remotely supports that ridiculous claim.

[Anonymous No.7809005]

>>7803159
Shrimps and crabs have nervous systems and experience pain. you're thinking of oysters and clams which have pre-ganglia

[Anonymous No.7809165]

>>7808834
>what is a granary

[Anonymous No.7809247]

>>7800395
>What would it take for you to go vegan?
>And I mean what's the least it would take, not I would go vegan for a million dollars
Meat no longer being a thing.

Not kidding.

[Anonymous No.7809282]

>never gonna give up cheeseburgers
Unless they pay me 20 million $

[Anonymous No.7809349]

>>7809165
>what are mice
and you dont automatically start out with a full grainary

[Anonymous No.7809385]

>>7808834

>but a head of cabbage can't do shit against a neighbours wandering chicken.

Maybe your pussy brit cabbage.

A flock of Freedom Lettuce can strip a buffalo in under ten minutes,

[Anonymous No.7809395]

I would go vegan if they considered ribeye a vegetable

[Anonymous No.7809413]

>>7809385
Chicken wire.

>>7809349
The number of crops that get fully wiped out in this day and age likely isn't as urgent as you might think it is.

[Anonymous No.7809562]

>>7809413
While I worked in a garden centre we had a potato supplier go belly up because a few of his crops got infested and enough couldnt be saved to keep it going.

Also had a cherry farmer that got a shit harvest three years in a row and that ended that.

shit can and does go belly up, thats just gardening

[Anonymous No.7809590]

>>7807784
You can't eat fucking honey as a vegan?
Fuck that shit for eternity.

[Anonymous No.7809616]

>>7808891
Sure is fat SJW in here....

[Anonymous No.7809619]

>>7809590
Some people eat it anyways because bees are dying out and it supports their cultivation and industry without negatively impacting them.
Plus they're fucking bugs

[Anonymous No.7810052]

>>7809616
>if you eat anything other than tendies and ranch you believe social justice is good
>social justice is bad, /r/redpilled taught me so
....what

[Anonymous No.7810068]

>>7808834

Americans are afraid of meat that has the same name as the animal itself

[Anonymous No.7810076]

>>7800395
meat and dairy

Put those in and i will go vegan all the way

[Anonymous No.7810077]

>>7810068
Chicken? you smelly foreign asshole.

[Anonymous No.7810094]

Already vegan. Best decision ive made in my whole life

[Anonymous No.7810097]

>>7800488
Here you go. Enjoy your new lifestyle https://youtu.be/BBLlBIGvRM8

[Anonymous No.7810099]

>>7800401
Means you dont get enough fiber on a regular basis. Eat more leafy greens and beans and it'll clear up soon enough

[Anonymous No.7810111]

>>7810077
America's sole source of "chicken" had to change its name a few decades ago because the name was seen as too disturbing

It's less than 10% chicken byproduct, in any case, so they just call it "C"

[Anonymous No.7810114]

>>7801445
Lots of vegans dont eat tofu you know. Its almost impossible to not reach your daily recommended amount of protein if you eat a varied diet

[Anonymous No.7810119]

>>7801905
This is neglectful parenting. Not the fault of veganism. Millions of vegans have happy healthy children. There are shit parents in every social group. Babies can not subsist on fucking almonds

[Anonymous No.7810122]

>>7801939
No, her EATING DISORDER nearly killed her. You fell for click bait. She was on 800 calories a day, can you read?

[Anonymous No.7810124]

>>7810114
that's "protein by calorie" though

it's important to remember that your average hamplanet here has a panic attack if he's at a restaurant and any given plate doesn't have at least 3700 calories all within view. the idea of a multi course tasting menu requires a trigger warning because the staff take the empty small plates out of sight and he has to briefly experience the sensation of being able to breathe freely because, for a few minutes, he's not inhaling deep fried greasy garbage as fast as (in)humanly possible

a varied diet is almost as scary as having to go outside and talk to strangers, post YFW mommy doesn't microwave your tendies correctly REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.7810130]

>>7810124
Good thing there are meat replacers. High in calories, saturated fat, carbs, protein, all that fun stuff. No need to panic

[Anonymous No.7810161]

>>7808966
Something isn't ridiculous just because it surprises you. Go on, what do you think the number is and give your reasoning or a source? Bear in mind that millions of calories of plant energy are wasted in rearing a cow to slaughtering age.Calories that humans could have eaten directly.

If you think its anything like 1:1 you're extremely ill-informed.

[Anonymous No.7810166]

>>7800395
at least a million dollars.