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6909355 No.6909355 [Reply] [Original]

Will any of you be bothering to consult the /ck/ sticky?
Or will the same questions keep being posted over and over?

>> No.6909378

>>6909355
Lololol. Ikr? Tbh FAM, smh. -_-

>> No.6909383

>>6909355

why don't you stick the sticky up your stinky snot slot, slut.

>> No.6909386

>>6909383
Oooooh rekt. Btfo. Told yooou. Hahhahahaa lololol.

>> No.6909401 [DELETED] 

>>6909355
die

>> No.6909403 [DELETED] 

The only sticky around here will be my cum being wiped off your mom's mouth.

>> No.6909414

>>6909401
Promoting or encouraging suicide is felony in many states.

>> No.6909428

Please kill yourself, newfag

>> No.6909895

>>6909355
YES, I wanna see it right now in fact and give some feedback. It should be a group effort, not just a couple of know-it-alls. You should link us to your progress in these threads so we can confirm/refute your stuff before it gets stickied. There'll be idiotic and incorrect suggestions but we'll have to defer to the more qualified of /ck/ or even take a strawpoll before deciding what goes up (including the full results in the sticky). And there's nothing wrong with showing more than one way to do something and including pros and cons for each, letting the reader make the final decision. Just be sure to show your working out for each claim and it'll be fine.

>> No.6909929

The "argument" against having a sticky:
>>6909428
>>6909403
>>6909383
>>6909378

Fucking underage /b/tards on this board shouldn't have a voice. You bring this entire community down to childish memes and shitposting. Why so pissy about a potentially useful sticky, kids? Worried you'll be left behind in your ignorance while people on here actually learn about cooking? Worried your shill/meme/"funpost" threads will get less attention from newcomers? Or are you just shitting on it because you want to fit in with the "cool" kids who shit on everything?

Serious question. Does ONE of you have a single good reason to not have a sticky? They work great on every board that has made one, and /ck/ is an obvious subject to provide a resource of useful information.

>> No.6909935

>>6909929
u mad tbh

>> No.6909938

>>6909929
If we wanted/needed a sticky, we'd have one by now.

Again, kill yourself, newfag.

>> No.6909956

>>6909938
That's a ridiculous argument, no wonder you resorted to edgy /b/-tier insults.

We don't NEED a sticky but it could well improve the board. Obviously some of us DO want a sticky, the proof is this thread.

And I'm not the person you told to kill themselves last time.

>> No.6909957

>>6909929
>Does ONE of you have a single good reason to not have a sticky?

Sure, plenty of reasons:

People visit this board from all over the world. Advice on what foods to cook or what utensils to buy, etc, would either be useless to most of the viewers, or the list would have to be incredibly long and complex. Who wants recommdantions for a British brand when they live in Spain? Why would advice on eating frugally in the US be of use to someone in China? There's either two options: the sticky isn't useful, or it's so massive that it would be cumbersome.

Also, there's simply no need for a sticky. All of the information that a sticky might contain already exists and is easily found online: there's countless web pages, blogs, books, and videos that discuss shopping, cooking technique, recipes, dietary advice, food safety, and any other topic that one might want. Why bother cluttering up the board with a crappy sticky when far better sources of information already exist and are a simple click/tap away?

Reinventing the wheel is silly, especially when the reinvention is worse than what already exists.

>> No.6909961

>>6909956
You're right. You were told to go fuck your mother.

>> No.6909962

>>6909956
>Obviously some of us DO want a sticky

Why? Have you never heard of a cookbook? Do internet searches not work for you? What exactly do you think that a sticky would do better than either of the above?

>> No.6909982

>>6909929
fuck off you attention whoring circlejerking redditard piece of shit.

>> No.6909995

this picture has been posted for a year plus bit Joey threads are banned. fuck you, mods.

>impolite sage

>> No.6909996

>>6909956
>some of us DO want a sticky
And every single shitbird before you has failed to get one and everyone after you will too

>> No.6910019

CK sticky

>how to make steak

CK literally explodes at this point and nothing gets accomplished.

>> No.6910060

>>6909957
Many major aspects of food and cooking transcend geographical or cultural boundaries. Food hygiene practices for example. Rice is rice wherever you are. It would be nice if the information (or links to good information) on different varieties and different ways to cook rice, as well as some common basic recipes could be available in a handy sticky, instead of the regular /ck/ users who actually discuss cooking being asked the exact same questions over and over again every week. I'm not saying YOU don't discuss cooking anon - but look at the other 70% of this thread. They're either retarded memesters from /b/ or shills protecting their ad space while pretending to be part of the 4chan community ("newfag," "redditard," "u mad" etc).

These are not the people who constantly have to tell /ck/ how to cook rice, how to food shop on a budget, the ways to chop an onion, how to make a salad dressing and on and on.

Yes, you can find this information online, but people come to /ck/ for that information all the time because it's difficult for a beginner to know which sites have good information and which are just filler articles by amateurs. Someone wanting to make a good pasta sauce might end up learning from that idiotic "Italian" woman Marie on YouTube who's obsessed with sodium content and straining oil and can't safely chop a fucking onion. Would you equate that with an actual expert tutorial (which people could find links to in a sticky)? Google only takes you to the best promoted content, not the best informed.

If we don't get a sticky then I'm at least going to start making copypastas that can be reposted for the same old advice questions. And I'll invite criticism and improvements for these copypastas and encourage people to repost them where needed, but that's a messy and impractical solution to a simple problem that has been solved very easily on tons of other boards.

>> No.6910064

>>6909996
>we don't have a sticky therefore we shouldn't have a sticky
People like you hold back the entire human race.

>> No.6910065

>>6910060
Nearly everything about cooking is subjective, also cooking is a very broad subject. Cramming everything in a sticky that people will ignore anyways is just not going to work.

Then again it seems you're dead set on telling everyone what to do so there's no point in me dissuading your attention whoring ass.

>> No.6910082

>>6909378
>>6909383
>>6909403
>>6909428
Summer's over, newfags.
Shouldn't you be studying?

>> No.6910085

>>6910064
People with reasoning skills such as yours aren't even members of the human race tbh.

>> No.6910086

How to get a sticky:
>make a pastebin with what the sticky should contain
>include all the essentials: commonly asked questions and maybe a wiki or something
>HARD PART: get everyone to agree on it (or most people, there's always going to be contrarian faggots)
>post pastebin to /qa/ and ask japmoot or a mod to make it a sticky
WA LA

>> No.6910092

>>6910060
>Rice is rice wherever you are.

Except it's not. You don't cook Thai Jasmine rice the same as you cook Indian Basmati, Japanese sushi rice, or glutinous rice. (et. al.) That's the whole point: you either have to write a massively cumbersome sticky that addresses all the options or it would not be applicable to everyone.

>> it's difficult for a beginner to know which sites have good information
Agreed. But that same argument applies to advice here on /ck/. And I'd argue it's even worse here since you get trolls giving people deliberately bad advice.

>>Would you equate that with an actual expert tutorial
Of course not. But I don't think that a 4chan sticky counts as an "expert tutorial" either.

>>If we don't get a sticky then I'm at least going to start making copypastas that can be reposted for the same old advice questions

Why do that when cookbooks already exist and are a better resource than whatever copypasta you would put together?

>> No.6910096

>>6910065
If nearly everything about cooking is subjective then why are there cooking colleges? What can possibly be learned if there are no correct answers?

There's no field more subjective than music but /mu/ has a sticky providing links to useful sites to help people explore the world of music. Their sticky also reminds people to check the catalog and stay on topic, and that at least tries to keep the shitposting to a minimum.

Science and Maths is a subject at least as broad as food and cooking, yet they have a sticky: "...a compilation of free resources for self-learning & general academic life. It is a distillation of the Internet for the science & math-minded individual; in other words, the last bookmark you will ever need."

I'm not advocating for a sticky for attention. I want to see what sites, methods, recipes, sources of info, tutorials and techniques the best of /ck/ will recommend so I can get better at, and more knowledgeable about, food and cooking. I would've thought more people here would be interested in that but apparently everyone on /ck/ just wants to fight about pizza toppings and look at pictures of Big Macs and Taco Bell logos.

>> No.6910098

http://www.4chan.org/feedback

Read the first question.
You're welcome.

>> No.6910099
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6910099

>>6910086
>HARD PART: get everyone to agree on it
This isn't a democracy buddy.

>> No.6910100

http://4chan-ck.wikia.com/wiki/The_/ck/_Wiki

Start writing, faggot

>> No.6910104

>>6910098
Yup, plenty of positive feedback for a sticky.
Make it happen anon!
Thanks.

>> No.6910106

>>6910065
>Nearly everything about MUSIC is subjective, also MUSIC is a very broad subject. Cramming everything in a sticky that people will ignore anyways is just not going to work.
And yet /mu/ has a sticky. This could also work for every other board.
Only reason I'm against having a sticky would be spoonfeeding newfags but that's about it. Every other argument against it in this thread is garbage.

>> No.6910128

>>6909355
The sticky could have a section about cheese for the 'mericans on here?

>> No.6910134

>>6910096
>What can possibly be learned if there are no correct answers?

Technique. Food safety. The managerial aspects of a restaurant like calculating yield, portioning, budgeting, etc. Also the laws regarding foodservice in that particular country.

>> No.6910135

>>6910092
>You don't cook Thai Jasmine rice the same as you cook Indian Basmati, Japanese sushi rice, or glutinous rice
That could easily be addressed in a sticky by literally copypasting what you just wrote into the introduction. Then deal with the most common types of rice, the types that are in the cupboards of every person asking how to cook rice on here. There's nothing stopping someone making a thread here asking how to cook Japanese sushi rice if it isn't dealt with in the sticky, but if there's someone here qualified to instruct people about that then why not have them recommend a good link to info on that subject that can go into a sticky? Then we don't have to rely on them lurking here at the same time someone needs their advice.

>it's even worse here since you get trolls giving people deliberately bad advice
Exactly. That would obviously be left out of a sticky the second someone spotted it for what it is and reported it.

>I don't think that a 4chan sticky counts as an "expert tutorial"
Nor do I, but there are expert tutorials out there on the internet, available for free. I know a few of you bastards know where they are but the rest of us don't. Google "expert cooking tutorial" and all you get is clickbait and expensive courses.

>Why do that when cookbooks already exist and are a better resource than whatever copypasta you would put together?
Point me to a cookbook that is full of hyperlinks to multiple sites giving expert advice and tutorials covering the main fields of cooking. Obviously I'm not qualified to write a cookbook covering ALL of cooking, nobody is, but there are many people on /ck/ qualified to recommend internet resources that deal with their specialist field. A baker can show us all the best internet sites for people of different levels of ability to learn about baking. At the moment you have to be in the same thread as that Anon and get his/her attention to get that link. If they posted it in a sticky, it's there for easy reference.

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>>6910060
> but people come to /ck/ for that information all the time because it's difficult for a beginner to know which sites have good information

Literally what kind of retard do you have to be to not just type "how do i make X" or "Easy meals to start with for people who just started cooking". Cooking is so broad that you can't just condense it to a giant infograph.

And people come to /ck/ to anonymously talk about cooking and food. Its going to have typical responses and memes seen elsewhere on this imageboard.

You want to make it your personal crusade to improve whatever you perceive to be wrong with this board, by all means. That doesn't mean we all agree and you're certainly going to take a lot of shit for it. Best of luck either way.

>> No.6910155

>>6910135
You are very emotionally invested in this.

>> No.6910171

>>6910135
>Point me to a cookbook

You don't need hyperlinks. That's an important point, actually: the internet is a mountain of information that can be overwhelming to a noob. A cookbook avoids that problem because it's limited. It avoids distractions that can be confusing to a noob.

If you want specific recommendations I can offer several:
The Professional Chef - this is the textbook for the CIA (cooking school, not the spies). The current version is quite pricey but like any college textbook the earlier editions are available for pennies on the dollar. It covers food safety, processing produce, meats, seafood. Technique. Knife skills. Baking. And it's loaded with recipes.

Another excellent choice is the Joy of Cooking or the Better Homes and Gardens cookbooks--especially the earlier editions (1970's).

....but then again that's limited to what I would call French-influenced Western cooking. That won't do you much good if you want to a different style of food.

>> No.6910208

Have you guys seen the /k/ sticky? It's a thing of beauty. There's also "The Do/k/ument," a simple set of useful links to the best /k/ related resources, including a collection of 4000+ text and pdf files on every aspect of survival, from post-apocalyptic dental care, through every outdoor survival handbook, to distiling water.

http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Useful_Links

/k/'s sticky even has links to literally hundreds of food related documents just because they're tangentially related to survival. Information on food preservation, fishing, farming, foraging...

Shame I'm not interested in any of that. I really wish there was a food and cooking "useful links" page like that. Doesn't have to be a sticky, just a page we can share amongst ourselves that contains a collection of links to useful sites and torrents full of relevant downloadable books and videos, good international suppliers of equipment and ingredients and so on.

So far the nearest I can find is this:
http://www.e-cookbooks.net/

I just found it via Google so I have no idea if it's any good but it seems to have a good selection. Can anyone tell me if these are good links/recipes/cookbooks? Anyone have any more sites like this?

>>6910171
Thanks for these. This is what I'm talking about. Can't wait to get stuck into these, I would definitely include them if I was making a /ck/ useful links page/wiki.

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6910234

>>6909929
because people should learn to UTFSE

public shaming can keep retards from spamming basic questions that could be answered in a google search

this way we retain our board culture

>> No.6910236

>>6910100
>>6910100
>>6910100
>>6910100
>>6910100

>> No.6910238

People ask the same fucking questions on /fit/ all the time, a sticky means shit and really just turns this place into some stupid groupthink

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6910297

OP, why the FUCK didn't you include this link in your OP? Are you just here to spam that annoying image?

>>6910100
>http://4chan-ck.wikia.com/wiki/The_/ck/_Wiki

The more people who contribute to this the better. That's a great section on knives. I think the basic ingredients page needs a little work. I don't want to complicate things but it should probably specify essential ingredients for different types of cooking. An essential ingredient for a baker might not be essential for someone cooking stir fry. Fuck, I made a massive list of basic and semi-basic ingredients on here but never saved it. I listed essential and non-essential equipment too (there are a few tools and extras that need adding to the wiki). Does anyone have that kitchen equipment image? It was made by some tripfag and the cheeky sod even put his logo on it but it was a solid infograph.

Shit guys, even that one little booru link is a thousand times more useful than anything the 13 year old shitposters in this thread ever contributed to this board.

Okay so let's put the idea of a sticky on the back burner for now, can we at least have a series of wiki generals on here to get more contributors to this useful links page? It's obviously in it's infancy now but if we keep adding and editing, we could sculpt a great wiki resource, at least for beginner and intermediate cooks.

>> No.6910374

>>6910106
/mu/ doesn't need a sticky. Most boards don't need a fucking sticky.

>> No.6910927

>>6910019
Underplated roast

>> No.6910937

The sticky needs to have a link to google so they can google recipes.

>> No.6911748

>>6910937
The Do/k/ument actually has a link to Google:
http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Useful_Links

They also have links to great /k/ related pages so I guess they understood that being able to Google specific information doesn't necessarily make all other resources completely redundant.