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Does anyone actually use these or are they just a meme?

Isn't the fact that your ice melts an important part of drinking bourbon and whiskey?

>> No.6743280

>>6743274
>Isn't the fact that your ice melts an important part of drinking bourbon and whiskey?

if you want it to be

>> No.6743283

They really don't work very well.

>> No.6743284

>you ask for your whiskey on the rocks
>they give you ice instead
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.6743287

generally you should water down your spirits because too much alcohol can make it hard to actually taste anything else

ive never actually seen anyone use these things so im guessing they are meme

>> No.6743300

>first-world problems

>> No.6743307

>>6743287
You're supposed to give whiskey a dash of water, not water it down

>> No.6743308

dont nobody stick dumb ol nasty ROCKS in their likker, their just yanken yer chain to try to get sum laffs when ur dumb butt goes in the driveway and plonks a handful o' gravels into ur hootch :D

>> No.6743311

>isn't ice melting an important part of drinking whiskey

No

Bourbon is whiskey btw

>> No.6743313
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>> No.6743319

>>6743308
>I KNOW A FUNNY JOKE WHY DON'T I SPELL REALLY BAD ON THE COOKING BOARD AND HAVE PEOPLE E CALL ME NIGGER
nice meme 10/10

>> No.6743402

>>6743274

The reason they stay cold longer than ice is because they're shit at transferring heat. Whiskey stones will make your drink tepid for longer, but it won't give you that refreshing, clean chill you want, and they take forever to recharge, when you could just refresh ice by dumping out the old and adding the new.

>> No.6743430

>>6743274
They suck

>> No.6743450

>>6743274
Every spirit & every brand is different. Some are meant to have a splash of water, some are better as mixers & some are meant to be sipped neat. Personally I like my bourbon on the rocks & let the ice melt just a bite

>> No.6743452

I spray most of my drinks with liquid nitrogen before ingesting them.

>> No.6743472

Some whiskeys (or whatever booze) taste like shit when any amount of water is added.

Sometimes a chilled whiskey is more refreshing than a warm/room temperature drink, especially on warmer days.

Some people are so beta that they can't drink anything without being told it's socially acceptable.

>> No.6743489

>>6743300
>back to the second/third world with you

>> No.6743509

they don't scratch up your glass, do they?

>> No.6743512

>>6743300
> people in first world countries are not allowed to discuss anything related to their lives

>> No.6743529

I used them before, they work ok for lightly cooling your drink. But since then I mostly only afford the cheapest booze possible, so straight into the freezer it goes anyway to be mixed with cola to make it less nasty, haven't had a chance to use these in years

>> No.6743530

>>6743509
shouldn't, it's soapstone

>> No.6743545

>>6743274
This idea of rocks is dumb. The point is to have some ice melt into a scotch, to almost treat it like a garnish. Ice made of the same water sourced as the scotch is ideal. Close sub is to use filtered water.

>> No.6743568

>drinking spirits so shitty and rough that they need to be cooled to be palatable

>> No.6743588

>people with no understanding of thermodynamics

The melting ice is the whole reason it cools so effectively

>> No.6743636
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6743636

>>6743274
I use them all the time when I drink my very expensive scotch. If I'm using ice cubes they better be hand made cubes or they will ruin the texture of the drink. Also I am very selective of what glass I use. It must be made of crystal. Real crystal not the poor fag crystal.

>> No.6743644

>>6743636
10 bucks says you're gay and drink Evan Williams

>> No.6743648

>>6743545
Does this actually make a differnce over just using tap water? Assuming its not dirty-tasting tap water.

>> No.6743653

>>6743644
You just lost 10 bucks

>> No.6743658

>>6743653
no he didn't

>> No.6743678

>>6743636
>Dalmore 62

Oaked to hell and back and probably still chill-filtered with added caramel colorant lol.

>> No.6743701

>>6743678
You just lack superior taste buds. That usually happens when you drunk peasents spirits

>> No.6743707
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6743707

>>6743648
The water releases more fragrances and softens a scotch. The idea is to have a much more enjoyable palatable experience through dilution as opposed to say drinking it straight which absolutely wrecks your palate (this makes all scotch taste the same afterward so a taste flight is not really possible straight). Tap water has chlorine which could cloud a scotch's character. The water sourced from different areas such as Speyside, Highlands and Isaly are very close to each other with minute differences in hardness and mineral content which have complimentary effects when it is used to dilute their respective scotch. You can mix and match even.

They do sell these waters albeit outrageously overpriced, but using mineral water should be a good enough substitute. You don't even have to use it in ice form, just add drops.

>> No.6743742

>>6743287
Whiskey is supposed to get a few drops of water, not a big cube.

> because too much alcohol can make it hard to actually taste
And making drinks cold also makes it harder to taste.

>> No.6743753

>>6743707
>drinking it straight which absolutely wrecks your palate (this makes all scotch taste the same afterward so a taste flight is not really possible straight)
This is just... so inaccurate it hurts.

>> No.6743825

Every time I've used them, they taste like freezer burn.

One massive ice cube would be interesting. The sound of ice dinking around in a glass drivers me bonkers, so I'll just take a splash of water.

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6743832

>>6743825

>> No.6743846

>>6743707
Water only helps open up flavors smokier or peatier scotches like Islay malts. Sweeter highland malts are far, far better neat.
>palatable experience through dilution
Homeopathy shitter plz go.
>drinking it straight which absolutely wrecks your palate
Underage pleb, plz.
>this makes all scotch taste the same afterward so a taste flight is not really possible straigh
Straight up untrue.
>Tap water has chlorine which could cloud a scotch's character
Finally something not bullshit.
>the rest
That's a load of hogwash for pretentious idiots.

>> No.6743856

>>6743832
These are fantastic. You get a nice, even, slow melt from the large surface area. Letting you get the right amount of water in your drink without over diluting it.

>> No.6743879

>>6743636
is 250$ expensive? can this be conserved for years without getting spoiled if I don't open the bottle?

>> No.6743904

>>6743879
read again. $250,000.

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6743908

>spent 20 buckaroos on this garbage
>I only drink cuba libre

>> No.6743909

>>6743904
it's probably shit like 95% of the scotch I've ever tasted. I only liked balveenee
Irish wiskey is superior

>> No.6743926

>>6743909
Mickfag plz.

>> No.6743933

> chilling your whiskey
Please dont tell me any of you actually do this?

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6743938

>>6743909
Nope
Welsh is though

>> No.6743998

>>6743274
It depends on what your drinking, some say it's only acceptable if it's a splash of water.
Some believe no water or ice.
Personally, if it's low shelf do ice. Top shelf, no ice.
But the stones work for what they are supposed to do, keep it cold enough to take the bite out.

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6744005

>>6743307
That's not always a thing to do
>>6743472
>chilling whiskey
What are you doing?

>> No.6744012

>>6743568
>not realizing it's a way to drink some Alcohol

>> No.6744078

>>6743846
So you don't add water to Aberlour A'bunadh?

>> No.6744090

>>6743280
/thread

>> No.6744129

>>6743300
yeah it is, and i want it solved

>> No.6744169

when it comes to ice in cocktails, dilution =/= chilling. warm scotch has to do a lot of work to break down ice into water and this takes a lot of heat out of it. it physically can't melt rocks, so that heat loss never happens.

if you want a drink that's not much colder than it was out of the bottle then go for it.

the best solution, in my eyes, is to drink it at the right speed for the amount and size of ice you're using. lots of small cubes? drink that shit fast. one big chunk? shake the drink a bit and take it slow.

the small amount of water that thaws actually makes the drink more palatable unless you specifically want the burn of neat whisky.

this thread will be full of people telling you what to do rather than how to do what you want to do. but the fact is that unless you really, above all, want neat whisky, you're best off using ice. and if you do really, above all, want neat whisky, but you want it cold, you might want to refrigerate it in advance.

>> No.6744171

>>6744169

>when it comes to ice in cocktails, dilution =/= chilling

i undermined myself right off the bat there.

dilution EQUALS chilling. dilution = chilling. woops.

>> No.6744221

>>6743636
Don't chill your very expensive scotch with anything at all, you wasteful fuck.

>> No.6744239

>>6743319
shit man, ease up, i actually laughed. it was the smiley face.

>> No.6744289

>>6744221
Listen, peasent, you've probably never had the opportunity, or money, to taste very expensive scotch. Always drink expensive scotch on the rocks

>> No.6744517

>>6743846
I'm glad I get my advice from distillers themselves and not le 5chin cu/ck/s like you. Pity you actually think you are right.

>> No.6744523

>>6743753
It's accurate. You obviously have no experience in it.

>> No.6744539

>>6743274
I chipped a tooth tilting my glass for a swig on these things.
Never used again

>> No.6744542

>>6744539
Must not be classy enough to handle a real man's drink. Stay sipping your 40 oz pleb

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6744544

>>6744289

>> No.6744599

>>6743274
>Isn't the fact that your ice melts an important part of drinking bourbon and whiskey?
it is in keeping it cold. that's why the stones are so shit compared to ice. they dont melt

>> No.6744649

>>6744012
Shitty stuff that requires cold to mask it's shittiness, yes.

>> No.6744676

>>6743274
whisky rocks are a retarded idea for retarded people
basically if you really want to drink whisky cold they don't work
an important part of the chilling efficacy of ice is that the state change between ice and water simply put it needs a relatively high amount of energy so there's a little buffer there where it is absorbing heat but the overall temp of the slurry/ cube surface is not increasing

>> No.6744687

>>6744649
>being this objectively retarded

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6744891

>>6743308
>their

>> No.6744945

>>6743904
Read again. S$250,000
Still an enormous sum, but the currency is Singapore Dollar

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6744949

>mfw all these poor Plebs can't afford whisky rocks, so they just bash them

>> No.6744953

>>6743274
Just a meme

>> No.6745068

>>6743832
>>6743856
I have a couple of these molds. They are great.

>> No.6745123

>>6744949
>it's EXCLUSIVE shit!

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6745132

>>6743274
Toons...

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6745253

>>6744169
>>6744171
Ok... ok, wait...
>it physically can't melt rocks, so that heat loss never happens
>but you want it cold, you might want to refrigerate it in advance

>i took a physics class as an elective, so i'm pretty sure i know how heat transference works
>rock not make drink cold
>magic box make drink cold

I bet that you think water-thinned booze is physically cooler because it "burns" less when you drink it.

>> No.6745256

>>6745253
It is though, trust me an my degree on that

>> No.6745268

For people who want to drink whiskey neat, and experience the flavour untarnished, let it sit in the glass for ten minutes or so before sipping. The fumes will have dissipated after that point, and it won't burn (at least not excessively) if it's a decent bottle.

>> No.6745371

>>6743707
>>6744523
>drinking it straight which absolutely wrecks your palate
Someone hasn't built up a tolerance yet. A lot of underageB& think 40% has an unpleasant burn, but enough practice will make a 59% cask strength barely register as a tickle.

Yes, blenders and distillers tasting for 8-10 hours a day water down their drams, no, it's not to protect the tongue or enhance flavor, it's to avoid getting sloshed at work, even with a spit bucket.

>> No.6745405

>buy 15 year 'finished' in sherry casks
>tastes entirely like sherry
Why?

>> No.6745429

>>6743300
first-world people have first-world problems
Pretty weird.

>> No.6745566

Just starting out trying scotch and I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations? I dont particularly want to be shelling out a lot of money initially till I am able to discern between good and bad drops.

I bought a bottle of Chivas which I enjoyed the other month. I realise thats a blend and purists will shit on it but its early days at the moment.

I was thinking of giving Dimple a crack next.

Cheers guys.

>> No.6745697

>>6743509
>>6743530

these scratching glass are a common complaint on the reviews everywhere i've seen them sold

>> No.6745722

This is why I don't drink alcohol

>> No.6746085

>>6743644

Theres nothing wrong with Bob Eva

>> No.6746095

use dry ice.

they cool the drink, leave nothing behind in the drink, and you don't accidentally your teeth with rocks.

>> No.6746101

>>6745253

It's physically cooler because of the endothermic process of melting ice, I explained that in the post. The fridge involves circulating cold air around the surface of the drink, which while still nowhere near as powerful as ice chilling is still better than small, inert rocks.

>> No.6746160

My scotch dealer gave me some.
Have never drink with ice and enjoy those stones.

>> No.6746174

>>6743274
I have them. Don't really work, make whiskey taste weird

>> No.6746541

>>6745566

Drops? Anyway for single malts go try a Glenfiddich, easy to drink and rarely expensive. Then maybe try a Glenmorangie which is better and also not generally expensive. Speyburn is a cheapo single malt similar to Glenmorangie but often really really cheap and by no means bad. If you aren't put off by smoke and peat, you can often find Laphroaig for quite cheap, but you have to shop around to find decent deals. Single malts are indeed expensive these days but with a little effort you can find reasonable prices, and they really are just a lot more interesting than most blends.