/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6722667]

This shit is fucking disgusting.

How do people eat fucking meatloaf?

[Anonymous No.6722671]

Cause some idiot pleb slathered it with ketchup

[Anonymous No.6722676]

with their mouths

[Anonymous No.6722680]

Looks awful OP, thanks for introducing me to this slab of tasteless meat.

[Anonymous No.6722685]

>>6722667
Never liked meatloaf.

[Anonymous No.6722689]

Fuck I always hated meatloaf. And I had to grow up watching my dad eat cold meatloaf sandwiches. Hold on, no wonder I am such a fuck up in later life.

[Anonymous No.6722694]

>>6722671
>ketchup
>not bbq sauce

[Anonymous No.6722701]

>>6722667
Lower class Americans, especially in the South, force it upon their children because it's all they can afford.

Then the children grow up accustomed to it and also poor, and the cycle continues.

[Anonymous No.6722703]

toast some rolled oats in a pan until they get nicely browned. use your oats in lieu of breadcrumbs in your meatloaf recipe.

the flavor and texture is incredible. it's so good that i feel like i'm morally obligated to let the world know about it.

[Anonymous No.6722710]

>>6722703
this looks so good, anon

[Anonymous No.6722712]

>>6722667
I always hated the idea of meatloaf.

I made a recipe with ground turkey, used sauteed onions/peppers, mixed with ai, and put sriracha on top. Shit was so good.

[Anonymous No.6722716]

>>6722712

>ai

A1...

[Anonymous No.6722721]

>>6722703
That looks like you baked vomit.

[Anonymous No.6722735]

An American delicacy

[Anonymous No.6722740]

I actually just had some

[Anonymous No.6722743]

put some like melted cheese on there and serve with rice or mac n cheese. not bad

[Anonymous No.6722767]

>>6722701
>it's all they can afford
>a fucking loaf of meat
No, but you're correct about the becoming accustomed to it part. I hated meatloaf as a kid. I'd eat each small bite with a big forkful of mashed potatoes. Sometimes I'd just eat the peas or greenbeans and mash and let my siblings go at it.

It's really not that awful except for the fact that grocery-store ketchup is pretty much just red sugar, and using it in or on meatloaf creates SUGAR BEEF which is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.6722828]

>>6722667
I don't understand all the hate towards meatloaf on /ck/. I'm really curious as to what sort of monstrosity posing as meatloaf that you were forced to stomach at some point in your life.
>Mix of ground beef, pork, and veal
>Bread crumbs
>generic kitchen spices
>fried onions
>egg
>brush with bbq sauce instead of ketchup
It's pretty much a foolproof recipe

[Anonymous No.6722852]

>>6722828
What this guy said.

Meatloaf is based. It's a loaf of meat. And people somehow think that sounds like a bad idea? Ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.6722854]

>>6722828
Cake is good. Barbecue sauce is good. That doesn't mean they'd go well combined.

[Anonymous No.6722874]

>>6722854
And which one of those ingredients would you consider comparable to cake, you smartass shit?

[Anonymous No.6722895]

>>6722828
People must be eating really shitty meatloaf somehow. I can't imagine how bad meatloaf can even get unless you somehow managed to burn out every drop of moisture.

[Anonymous No.6723145]

I like meatloaf. Shit's good.

[Anonymous No.6723215]

I love meatloaf.

I guess that has something to do with never eating it ever as a child.

[Anonymous No.6723246]

I love meatloaf, it makes me happy. Never had bad meatloaf, even the frozen supermarket version. But now that ground beef is so damn expensive I'll probably never bother to make it.

Anybody have any interesting worthwhile recipes?

[Anonymous No.6723312]

>>6722667
>not wrapped in bacon
Disgraceful

[Anonymous No.6724923]

>>6722828
That sounds like a pretty solid recipe. I never liked meatloaf as a kid myself because I never had a good one. I think a lot of people make shitty meatloaf. Hate to say it, but my mom made shitty meatloaf. I changed my mind after having a good one.

[Anonymous No.6724960]

This thread is starting to come around. Generalizing "meatloaf" is like generalizing pizza. There are literally a million kinds. Some will inevitably suck. Some will be drool yum good.

The golden age of beer is the best thing to happen to meatloaf since the vidalia onion. pic related.

[Anonymous No.6724980]

>>6722680
>tasteless meat.
See, the problem with meatloaf is there's TOO MANY tastes in it.

Like vomit.

[Anonymous No.6724986]

It's all I see white people eat on TV.
I had it once and it was garbage though.

[Artificial Flavors No.6725029]

>>6722828
>I don't understand all the hate towards meatloaf on /ck/.
Meatloaf has many things going against it: It's a lazy dish. Like a casserole it's just mixing stuff together and popping it into the oven. It's also boring - a big hunk of the same not particularly interesting flavor. The same mix can be made into Italian style meatballs, which is a much better use for the meat.

Then there's the real kicker: it's trashy. It's barely a step up from Sloppy Joe, and a pretty clear step down from a burger. Even hot dogs are better.

The biggest reason I hate it though is because of its limits. The best meatloaf is only going to be mediocre, and chances are it'll be a little worse than that. I can't imagine the scenario where making a meatloaf seems like a good idea. Maybe if you have to feed really fussy kids? Even then, it's not hard to do better than meatloaf.

[Anonymous No.6725039]

>>6722767
Have you ever had European ketchup? You might like it more than American ketchup. To be honest, I like both, but there's a definite noticeable difference between the two: European ketchups I've had taste like condensed tomato juice and have a strongly (and I fucking hate to use the word because memeword but there's really no other way to explain it that I can come up with) umami flavour to it whilst the American ones have a sweet-and-sour/sweet-tart/tangy flavour.
As said, I like them both, but I think each is better on certain things.
For example, I've only had meatloaf with American ketchup because in my country, meatloaf is eaten either unsauced or with a mushroom-and-onion-stock-based gravy but I'd bet it'd be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better with European-style ketchup on it, instead.

In fact, when next I make meatloaf, I'm gonna eat it with Eurotchup to see if my inkling is spot on or not.

[Anonymous No.6725049]

>>6722667
I dunno OP. Cut a slice, rotate it 90°, and put it on a bun, and it's a fucking hamburger.

Why do YOU hate hamburgers, OP?

[Anonymous No.6725053]

>mfw you plebs are such shit cooks you cant even make meatloaf

[Anonymous No.6725057]

>>6725029
Aw! I like'em both, meatballs and meatloaf.
Here's an idea, Anon: how about you take the same seasonings for what you think Italian meatballs have in them and form it into a meatloaf instead of balls?

I mean... I am from Italy and we don't have separate word-stems (Italian and English work differently) for "meatball" and "meatloaf."
"Meatball" is "polpetta" which literally means "little pulpy/fleshy/meaty-thing" while "meatloaf" is "polpettone" which literally means "big little pulpy/fleshy/meaty-thing."
The two are seasoned identically, the only difference is the size and that meatloaf's greater mass allows it to have larger ingredients put into it, like whole, hard-boiled eggs and other stuff.

[Anonymous No.6725065]

>>6725049
Boigahs ain't s'posed ta got filler like oats or breadcrumbs in'em. It's an all beef patty.

[Anonymous No.6725067]

Meatloaf is fantastic, you're full of shit, OP

[Anonymous No.6725077]

>>6725029
>the best meatloaf is only going to be mediocre

It will if you approach it with that attitude

The best meatloaf though realistically is good, it's enjoyable and filling

[Anonymous No.6725100]

>>6722694
Same shit, different spices.

[Anonymous No.6725177]

I think the haters ITT are stuck on mom's rushed version of Betty Crocker meatloaf. It's come a long way, baby.

[Anonymous No.6725182]

The brew pubs are the current home of the best meatloaf. They basically grind up steak and add flavors and beer-based sauces. Hard to believe that this is being conflated with the sad dry suburban ketchup burger of old.

[Anonymous No.6725187]

>>6723312
>bacon

[Anonymous No.6725193]

Meatloaf seems like a waste of beef now that the prices are skyrocketing, I would just use it to make tacos or something

[Anonymous No.6725197]

And then there's also hamloaf.

[Anonymous No.6725327]

I'm going to say the same thing I say every time this comes up: If you don't like meatloaf, then you've only ever had badly prepared meatloaf. Sorry eveyone you know is a shitty cook. Just like any other meat dish, it has it's own methods of cokking that make it delicious. Now, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6725344]

>>6725193
This. Why do the sturdy but boring dish when you could make something with more exciting flavor?

[Anonymous No.6725349]

>>6725344
Good meatloaf is comfort food. Pork is actually getting cheaper right now>>6725197

[Anonymous No.6725357]

>>6725349
>Good meatloaf is comfort food

It's only comfort food due to nostalgia. You grew up eating it so it's associated with memories of home and family.

The thing is: not everyone was raised in a culinary wasteland in which meatloaf was a noteworthy or special dish.

[Anonymous No.6725362]

I don't get people who love meatballs but turn their noses up at meatloaf.

[Anonymous No.6725370]

>>6725065

> not using jalapeño and onion as filler in burgers

[Anonymous No.6725379]

>>6725349
>Good meatloaf is comfort food.
Not a fan of comfort food. I don't want to eat bland and heavy as some kind of emotional thing. That's an awful relationship to have with food. And all the foods that seem to be called comfort food are usually the favorites of fat kids. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.6725383]

>>6722828

never eaten meat loaf, but the idea is absolutely revolting to me. and i love minced meat.

meatballs are great. patties are great. fake tacos are great. meat loaf is a waste of decent meat.

[Anonymous No.6725392]

>>6725057

why not just make meatballs?

there's more surface for browning when you have something as small as meatballs and you make it in a fucking pan, which creates a fucking crust.

goddamn

>>6725177

nope, my mum's a great cook so we ate healthy and.. tasty. nice projection though.

[Anonymous No.6725395]

>>6725344
>ground beef tacos
>exciting

The most exciting thing I've ever done with ground beef was a form of burger topped with toasted anchovy, preserved tomatoes, and buffalo mozz. It's fucking ground beef, probably made from scraps. It's not even ground or minced steak.

>>6725362
This. And again. It's fucking ground beef. It's meat filler.

[Anonymous No.6725400]

>>6725392
>nice projection though.
What does this memespeak even mean?

[Anonymous No.6725403]

>>6722703
Duly noted, moral-cu/ck/

[Anonymous No.6725405]

Stop Liking What I Don't Like: /ck/ Edition.

[Anonymous No.6725409]

I like meatloaf

[Anonymous No.6725411]

>>6725100
Um... no. Shitty bbq sauce often contains a copious amount of ketchup, sure, but they are not the same thing at all

[Anonymous No.6725416]

>>6725400

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.

In this case, anon was implying people only like meat loaf because their mothers cooked shitty meat loaf to them.

What "projecting" means is that infact the anon's mother was a shitty cook, because meat loaf is a lazy, shitty dish, yet he tried to call other people out for it.

[Anonymous No.6725417]

>>6725392
I don't like the crust all that much, to be honest. Least favourite part for me. That's why I prefer sauced meatballs such as in the Swedish or central European traditions rather.

Perhaps you dislike meatloaf because the mince your mum used was too lean, yielding a dry final dish?
After >>6725177 mentioned Betty Crocker, I looked up her recipes and they all look horrible. They all suggest lean meat and adding milk which is a bad idea because the moisture will evaporate out as the meatloaf cooks. More on that later.

Meatloaf wasn't a common part of my mother's culinary repertoir when I was growing up, but when it was made, it was as described in >>6725039
>unsauced or with a mushroom-and-onion-stock-based gravy

I've never asked her how to make it, but in adulthood, I've taken to making mine with 80/20 mince. If I use 500g of mince total, I add 100g of breadcrumbs because, paradoxically, it mimics moisture. See, when cooking, no matter what you do, you're going to lose moisture to evaporation so you have to mimic moisture by retaining and/or adding oils. Adding an equal weight of crumbs to that of fat in the mince aids in retaining this "moisture" by reabsorbing the fat into the meatloaf as it renders.
What fat happens to escape the meatloaf (and some will without fail), I use for making the roux for the aforementioned gravy.

Perhaps if you gave meatloaf another go but without this silly fatphobic stance that seems so prevalent in the US, you might like the results.

Of course, you needn't do as I suggest if your dead set against eating meatloaf, but what have you to lose other than $5-6 worth of ingredients, really?

[Anonymous No.6725426]

>>6725370
Those aren't fillers. They're aromatics.

A filler would be something used to "stretch a buck/quid/Eurodollar/jewgolds" IE a cheap ingredient used to stand in for a portion of the more expensive ingredient in a given recipe, such as breadcrumbs in meatloaf, TVP in Taco Bell's ground beef tacos or beans in chile con carne.

[Anonymous No.6725429]

>>6725416
Gotcha. So anon is a Freudian Clinical therapist.

What is the memespeak for assholes who want the world to stop liking what they don't like?

[Anonymous No.6725440]

>>6722667
>>6722703
These look like very real examples of Betty Crocker's terrible meatloaf to me. Are these pictures projected into the thread? Like as if projected by some kind of electronic force involving moving electrons?

[Anonymous No.6725444]

>>6725429
Depends on the subject of the thing to be liked/not liked. If the subject is cooking, those people are called Good Eats Fans who preach that there is no way but The Way and Allahton bin Brownsalam, blessings be upon Him, is Its Teacher.

[Anonymous No.6725470]

>>6725370
oh hey Applebee's I didn't know you shitposted on /ck/

[Anonymous No.6725478]

>>6725440
>moving electrons
>still using a CRT

[Anonymous No.6725484]

>>6725417

>I don't like the crust all that much, to be honest.

ugh

>That's why I prefer sauced meatballs such as in the Swedish

hate those

>Perhaps you dislike meatloaf because the mince your mum used was too lean, yielding a dry final dish?

my mom would never feed me such an abomination

[Anonymous No.6725485]

>>6725478
genius.

have a sandwich.

[Anonymous No.6725622]

>>6725029
> The exact same thing as a ball

Best thing ever!

> The exact same thing as a loaf

Gross, man!

[Anonymous No.6725656]

So whats a good ground beef meatloaf recipe?

[Anonymous No.6725660]

>>6725622

a meatball has so much more surface exposed to heat, it forms a great crust. it is also made in a pan, which only adds to that factor.

a meatloaf has a lot of mince cooked in its own juices, it is also made in an oven which means it will barely have any crust. the texture inside a meat loaf is also different from the inside of a meatball.

thanks for you great insight, though, you subhuman ignoramus...

[Anonymous No.6725680]

>>6725660
>cooked in its own juices
Y-you don't actually cook it in a loaf pan, do you?
Don't do that!
Cook it on a baking sheet. Basically, form the loaf by hand on the baking sheet and... bake. It'll form a decent crust all round except the bottom side, which is fine, and any fat that renders out can be used as suggested in >>6725417 to make a roux for gravy.

>>6725656
Try something super simple at first:
Caramelised onions, 60g
Beef mince, 80/20, 500g
Breadcrumb, 100g
Egg, 2 large
Salt or stock powder, to taste
>some might say stock powder is cheating; while they might be right, it's also delicious

Combine.
Form.
Bake in already hot oven set at 180°C/350°F for like 35 minutes then off the heat and let it sit in the oven an additional 10 minutes to ensure it's cooked through.
Remove.
Cool a bit.
Slice.
Eat.
Om nom nom nom nom.

The fat that renders out can be used to make gravy.

[Anonymous No.6725704]

>>6725680

>Y-you don't actually cook it in a loaf pan, do you?

i don't even know what that is

>Cook it on a baking sheet. Basically, form the loaf by hand on the baking sheet and... bake. It'll form a decent crust all round except the bottom side

why settle for a decent crust?

anyway, this discussion is kind of obsolete so ill just stop it now. nothing wrong with enjoying your meat loaf, i just think its garbage/shit/trash/bad

[Anonymous No.6725706]

>>6725704
Fair enough, friend-o. :3
If you came by, I wouldn't make you a meatloaf anyway, just trying to gauge exactly from where this American distrust/disgust of meatloaf stems.

[Anonymous No.6725737]

>>6725706

i'm not american, just for the record

[Anonymous No.6725741]

>>6725411
>muh southern "cuisine"

[Anonymous No.6725742]

>>6725737
Nor I. Still doesn't change my bewilderment at Americans disliking meatloaf. It's a point of ridicule in American cartoons where kids hate meatloaf, broccoli and other perfectly delicious foods.

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.6725771]

>>6725742
meatloaf is american comfort food

http://www.southernliving.com/food/classic-comfort-food-recipes/view-all

maybe only children don't like it because it isn't pizza or mcds

[Anonymous No.6725778]

>>6725771
bird

[Anonymous No.6725790]

ordinarily OP, i agree with you.

but my cousin's 75year old babysitter makes the most sublime "grape jelly meatloaf" you have never tasted.

it has everything that normal meatloaf has, but instead of ketchup, it uses grape jelly mixed with i dont know what. maybe bbq.

i know what you are thinking, please hold back on the vomit.jpg please. the sauce was almost like a bbq, but slightly purple and had a fantastic aroma to it.

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.6725792]

>>6725778
I took this the other day when I was thinking of you

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.6725798]

>>6725790
people like to eat scrapple which is a type of meatish loaf so it wouldn't surprise me

[Anonymous No.6725834]

>>6725798
the fuck is a scrapple?

[Anonymous No.6725837]

>>6725834
A large percent of the population in some parts of the country has spent some amount of time in prison. Thus "prison culture" (including stuff like prison meatloaf aka scrapple) is actually a part of everyday life in those areas.

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.6725851]

>>6725834
scrap meat from a butchered pig I think, then turned into a loaf, sliced and fried

I think served on bread with mustard or grape jelly

[Anonymous No.6725856]

>>6725357
>It's only comfort food due to nostalgia
no
I never had a good meatloaf growing up, had a shitty family too, but I love a good meatloaf now. Fuck picky eaters. You all need to die.

[Anonymous No.6725898]

>>6725834
it's like polenta combined with pork roll

it's delicious by the way

[Anonymous No.6725952]

I love ketchup and I think meatloaf is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.6726005]

meatloaf is terrible poor food, but meat balls are classic italian cuisine?

[Anonymous No.6726012]

>>6726005
Yes, is this concept hard to understand?
Small amounts of food are classy.
Meatballs are small.
Meatloaf? Not so much. Big, gross, poverty food.
So basically the more of something you have, the poorer you are.

[Anonymous No.6726020]

>>6726012
>Small amounts of food are pretentious.
FTFY

[Anonymous No.6726023]

>>6725065
Adding oats to a patty is fucking great

[Anonymous No.6726028]

>>6726012
So if I have no money I'm rich?

[Anonymous No.6726030]

Meatloaf sucks, my mothers recipe has raisins in it and its enough to make you puke.

[Anonymous No.6726043]

>>6722667
You dont like meat loaf because your mom cant cook for shit. I bet there is other shit you dont like because your mom fucked it up. Take yo McD palette to a grown folks restaurant, away from your incompetent family, and give it a try. Its a hard thing to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.6726048]

>>6726023
Sounds like haggis

[Anonymous No.6726060]

>>6726048
Not a lot of oats, just sprinkle some there, it adds a lot of texture and keeps them moist

[Anonymous No.6726066]

>>6726012
Kill yourself my man

[Anonymous No.6726075]

>>6726012
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Anonymous No.6726076]

>>6726066
But I'm you.

[Anonymous No.6726099]

>>6726076
Epic xdD but still,l kill yourself, come on

[Anonymous No.6726138]

>>6725798
How the hell did you get scrapple from grape jelly meatloaf. Scrapple is pork knuckles, houcks and ham with corn meal. Meatloaf is ground beef, mir poix, bread crumbs, something sweet is optional.

[Anonymous No.6726157]

>>6726028
>>6726075
>what is satire
Swift would be rolling in his grave.

[Anonymous No.6726236]

>>6726157
He's an autist, be nice.

[Anonymous No.6726248]

>>6726157
>not knowing commonly used movie quotes

[Anonymous No.6726260]

>>6722667
I forgot some people still think it's cool to act like they hate popular foods.

[Anonymous No.6726265]

>>6726248
I've never seen Billy Madison in its original language, Anon. I've seen it dubbed in German and Italian, though.

[Anonymous No.6726268]

>>6726265
Well....that must have been an experience. I'm assuming it didn't translate well, lol.

[Anonymous No.6726291]

>>6726268
Indeed.
I saw Me, Myself and Irene in Italian. All the black characters had Neapolitan accents. I saw it in German and they all spoke like people from Hamburg. In the German-speaking world, Hamburg is generally regarded as a crime-riddled cesspool. In the Italian-speaking, the same is true of Naples.

Anyway, I'm sure a lot of the original script was localised rather than translated directly, to make it more accessible/relevant to the speakers of those respective languages. Me, Myself and Irene, for example, referenced cartoons popular in Italy and Germany in the 80s a few times, stuff that I know the US never saw, so I'm sure the original language referenced Thundercats or something else us in Europe never really got familiar with.

[Anonymous No.6726903]

>>6725741
>muh "b8"

[Anonymous No.6727074]

>>6722716
Too late, I already made meatloaf with artificial intelligence. Don't worry though, I only used a little bit.

[Anonymous No.6727143]

>not using cheezit crumbs and beefy onion soup mix

>not topping it with gravy made out of the other packet of soup mix from the box

ketchup on meatloaf is vile though, I'm apt to agree

[Anonymous No.6727237]

Instead of ketchup on top, I like to mix worcestershire and brown sugar, then add a bit of whatever hot sauce you like. Perfect glaze if you like it slightly sweet. For savory, do cheese.

[Anonymous No.6727243]

>>6725357
>not everyone was raised in a culinary wasteland in which meatloaf was a noteworthy or special dish.

I think you dropped this.

[Anonymous No.6727410]

Meatloaf is delicious, if you don't like it you've never had a properly made one. There is literally no such thing as bad tasting beef unless it's rotten or some retard actually managed to make beef not taste good

[Anonymous No.6729271]

>>6727243
as a resident of flyover i can admit with no ego that it is in fact a culinary wasteland