Washing meat

[Anonymous No.6593079]

Does any wash their meat with water (no soap) before they cook it? My roommate is making pork short ribs and he says that this is a normal thing. He says it gives the meat a better texture, but I've read that it removes protein (flavor). I've never done this or heard of it.

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>he's from china

[Anonymous No.6593081]

>>6593079
>advertising

[Anonymous No.6593084]

>>6593079
Not me. I've heard that washing chicken used to be standard practice and many recipes that I see online suggest doing so but I never do.

I just pat meat dry with a paper towel and bung it into the hot pan.

[Anonymous No.6593088]

>>6593079
it's a common practice. I've only ever done it once or twice though.

[Anonymous No.6593099]

I usually rinse stuff lightly but that's about it

[Anonymous No.6593291]

>>6593099
Washing the meat has no positive effect on the meat, if you aren't drying it afterwards it will spit at you if you try to sear it in oil. Also, from what I've read you are perpetrating further pathogens by creating bacteria.

After you thaw your meat, just dab it down with a paper towel to remove that serous like goo off it. Season and oil, and sear on high heat

[Anonymous No.6593296]

>>6593291
I should elaborate on the bacteria part...

After a period of time, (about 4 hours) germs will have multiplied enough on the protein that it starts going bad. If you wash it, and lets say leave it to marinate, try to store it or forget about it, this process will happen faster and you can get sick.

[Anonymous No.6593365]

>>6593079
its common practice but it can often spray around the bacteria and rarely actually cleans it.

[Anonymous No.6593371]

If you feel you need to wash it, possibly because it's on the verge of going off, use vinegar. Bacteria loves breeding in water. Vinegar kills it.

[cheerio hero No.6593423]

> protein (flavor)

[Anonymous No.6593462]

>>6593079
I rinse my meats with cold water and pat dry before I cook them (usually crockpot, no stovetop). I do it mainly for chicken to keep them clean. I also had a bad instance where a beef cut I was using came in a vacuum sealed packaging and I just put it straight in the crock pot, it came out VERY salty and I thought the packaging is to blame.

[Anonymous No.6593469]

>>6593079
If it's chicken I'll give it a quick rinse but I wont do that for other meats.

[Anonymous No.6593476]

Certain cuts of pork have tiny bone chips on them that I rise off before cooking them.

I also rise out the inside of whole chickens if i plan on putting anything inside them.

[Anonymous No.6593507]

I only wash insides of whole chickens and pork.Chicken because i gotta clean the guts and pork because when butchering small fragments of bone and bone dust are in meat. Run the back of your knife over pork and you can see the fragments.

Whole fish same reason as whole chicken the guts, if i plan to fillet the fish then i dont.

Oh i also wash feet and tails before skinning those as they are grimy

[Anonymous No.6593525]

I only wash pork because pigs are filthy motherfucking animals.

[Anonymous No.6593528]

>>6593525
Pigs are very clean animals while alive. Cleaner than cows. Cleaner than many humans. Cleaner than most 4chan regulars, probably

[Anonymous No.6593532]

>>6593079
Depends on what part of meat I am cooking. breasts/legs/thighs(basically any chicken parts get washed), pork ribs.

[Anonymous No.6593537]

>>6593528
What about dog. Would you eat dog?

[Anonymous No.6593544]

>>6593537
Yes, but what is the relevance? Dogs are rather dirty. Their instinct is to purposely roll in crap so their scent blends in with their surroundings. The first thing they do after getting a bath is find something filthy to rub themselves on.

Cats are clean. I'd eat cat, too.

[Anonymous No.6593548]

>>6593544
You're a degenerate fuck thinking cats are clean. They're clean to themselves but that doesn't equate to being clean to humans.

Please go live with cats and their litter boxes that smell of ammonia and other nasty shit.

[Anonymous No.6593552]

>>6593544
Flies are pretty clean too, after they land on shit and lick themselves clean. Do you eat flies?

[Anonymous No.6593554]

>>6593548
Cats are dirty because their shit and piss is dirty? Good one.

They don't eat their shit. They don't roll in it. They don't sleep next to it. Dogs do.

[Anonymous No.6593557]

>>6593544
But a dog has personality. For me to eat a dog he would have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold from Green Acres.

[Anonymous No.6593558]

>>6593552
Yes. Everybody does. Flies are everywhere, and it is impossible for our food to be 100% fly free.

[Anonymous No.6593560]

>>6593554
You're a distuging savage, cats are disgusting, stop trying to make excusing for those things. It's not a competetion, cats are fucking disgusting and serve no purpose to human beings. At least dogs are cute and can be trained to do useful things.

[Anonymous No.6593564]

>>6593558
Yeah, your degenerate african food!
Fuckin sicko!

[Anonymous No.6593566]

>>6593564
There is a limit to the amount of insect parts that can legally be in food. It is not 0% anywhere in the world. You know why? Because 0% is an impossible standard.

[Anonymous No.6593568]

>>6593558
>Flies are everywhere,
China would like a word with you.

[Anonymous No.6593594]

>>6593291
>by creating bacteria.
go to bed, god, you are drunk

[Anonymous No.6593896]

>>6593560
*rips fedora

[Anonymous No.6594008]

>housemate is a germophobe to incredible levels
>worries about who previously touched the handle of the serving spoon at buffets
>washes her hands constantly
>will throw food away if it touches the table
>etc
>she makes chicken a lot
>washes the chicken in running water on blast
>the water splashing off will spread salmonella (if there is any) all over the kitchen
>actually a very unhygienic practice
>don't know if I should tell her

Personally, I don't wash anything, not even produce. If there is pesticide on that shit, two seconds of water ain't washing it off. I'll rinse off visible dirt/bugs but that's it. Never had food-borne illness.

>pesticide builds up over time in the body blah blah blah

I'll be going organic when I get a job after college and can afford it. For environmental reasons. I also recycle. Come at me. Point is this is the only time in my life I will get any pesticide at all. After this it's organic and homegrown.

So anyway, I don't bother washing meat. It's gonna be cooked anyway.

[Anonymous No.6594443]

>>6593079
My wife is Chinese and she does this, the best way I can describe it is it reduces the flavour present in meat that tastes how an animal smells.

They also use booze a lot to remove this flavour from the fat and oils.

[Anonymous No.6594453]

>>6593079
>no soap
What the fuck are you talking about
Without soap you're rinsing the meat, I wash my chicken thighs every time my daughter comes to see me - she loves the lemon tang

[Anonymous No.6594462]

>>6593566
I know about that, especially in chocolate for instance. The FDA legal limits are part of the public record here in the USA. They define what "0%" means in federal legaleeze and what has to be on a label or not on a label based on their percentage definitions.

This is just part of it, people make whole careers out of this legal shit.

http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm

[Anonymous No.6594469]

>>6594443
Does that actually remove flavors or is that because their so drunk from the booze that they don't notice the difference? Maybe it's a combination of both?

[Anonymous No.6594483]

>>6594469
booze cooks away, you know that.

[Anonymous No.6594497]

>>6593079
They are killing surface bacteria, or the bacteria in the water they washed it in. Imagine meat butchered without refrigeration to drain, and tons of flies. It's just a matter of fact method of ensuring stuff is killed.

Now, there's a scum that comes to the surface of broth, and some people skim it. Other people could blanch it and start over, I guess. Could be a grandma way of doing it. His explanation of "better texture" isn't scientific however. That's total ignorance.

[Anonymous No.6594518]

>>6593291
>Also, from what I've read you are perpetrating further pathogens by creating bacteria.
The issue is contamination in one's kitchen from splashing water and getting juices all around a sink, counters, faucets with fingers, mist in the air, all of that. And, specifically, as it relates to washing poultry and salmonella, CDC now suggests not to wash, not for the safety of the poultry it is cleaning at all, but because people cross-contaminate a kitchen doing so. It's just a logic and odds-driven decision to take this stance, not that it's not helpful.

The kind of contamination on cuts of pork would be knives that nicked e.coli, and surface bacteria yersinia enterocolitica (causes vomiting and diarrhea food poisoning). There is no reason not to wash food if you are careful, however, the odds are in your favor if you don't consume undercooked meats, and maintain clean hands, wash untensils (or get new ones) after flipping raw meat with it, and keep surfaces clean.

[Anonymous No.6594538]

>>6593079
It would effect neither texture or protein unless you're power-washing it or soaking it for a lengthy time.
There is less stringent food safety in china so there's a more established tradition of cleaning food before cooking.

[Anonymous No.6594562]

>>6593560
Are you retarded or trying to be edgy or just willfully ignorant of history and the world around you? Cats were domesticated for pest control.

[Anonymous No.6594572]

>>6594483
I know that's not true the way most people think it is.

[Anonymous No.6594576]

>>6593296
See >>6594518

[Anonymous No.6594580]

both Chinese and Japanese cooking often involve both washing meat before cooking and quick boils to get scum/surface protein off meat (like, to make Chinese stock you bring water to a boil, then drain it and replace).

Western cooking is, frankly, "dirtier" and personally I don't mind some random protein floating around in my shit, but there you have it.

So.. your room-mate is right, basically.

[Anonymous No.6594586]

>>6594497
Running a bit of water over the meat isn't going to do fuck all that bringing the meat up to a safe temperature will. Actually with a lot of bacteria you're just making things worse with the water.

Stop doing things just because they're "tradition." In traditional days they didn't understand how bacteria spread.

[Anonymous No.6594588]

>>6594008
>germophobe
>going to buffets
>going to a restaurant at all
Like all germophobes, she sounds like a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.6594593]

If you go to a grocery store and get a vacuum packed slab of ribs you should absolutely rinse that shit off, then pat it dry before putting anything on it.

[Anonymous No.6594610]

>>6594593
Why? It's just a little bit of saline.

[Anonymous No.6594625]

The blood pools at the bottom of the poly tray and forms a slimy film that makes it disgusting to handle. I wash my meats.

[Anonymous No.6594629]

>>6594625
Jesus, where do you buy meat? I've never purchased meat that had a "slimy film" on it.

[Anonymous No.6594631]

Sounds like he was doing the velveting process.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/07/chinese-velveting-101-introduction-water-velveting.html

[Anonymous No.6594639]

>>6594625
What the fuck buying discount meat or what?

[Anonymous No.6594643]

>>6594610
well for starters that shit smells
second off if you have a slab of spare ribs if you don't smoke it you're probably smoking dicks instead, which means you need to apply a dry rub to it, even if you plan on putting sauce on later

[Anonymous No.6594647]

>>6594643
Saline helps the rub stick to it better

[Anonymous No.6594717]

>>6594497
You skim off scum to get a clear broth/soup, it's purely for optical purposes.

[Anonymous No.6594743]

>>6594562
Cat's suck for pest control, the best are terriers, those are dogies. Cat's are lazy fucks but a dog can be properly trained to go after rats and other vermin and they'll see it as fun, that's why they've evolved to be man's best friend.

[Anonymous No.6594757]

>>6594562
That's why islamics hate dogs, because they can sniff out sleeze pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.6594776]

Ever notice that dogs bark at islamics? They know the scent of evil.

[Anonymous No.6595270]

>>6594757
>>6594776
samefag, fuck off

[Anonymous No.6595630]

>>6594008
Most pesticides are fully water-soluble. Washing will take off a majority of surface pesticides, if they're present.

Organic pesticides aren't necessarily safer for you, but they still wash off more or less as easily, so it's worth giving them a good rinse anyway if you care about that. Good on you for planning to go homegrown, though.

[Anonymous No.6596046]

>>6593525
>>6593537
>>6593557

[Anonymous No.6596073]

>>6594008
>Personally, I don't wash anything, not even produce. If there is pesticide on that shit, two seconds of water ain't washing it off. I'll rinse off visible dirt/bugs but that's it. Never had food-borne illness.
>pesticide builds up over time in the body blah blah blah
I'll be going organic when I get a job after college and can afford it. For environmental reasons. I also recycle. Come at me. Point is this is the only time in my life I will get any pesticide at all. After this it's organic and homegrown.
>So anyway, I don't bother washing meat. It's gonna be cooked anyway.

If you live in the US you do know that 'organic' uses both chemical fertilizers and herbicides/pesticides. They can use them if their crop is at risk and still keep the FDA organic label. Also Organic fertilizers are the leading cause of food borne contamination. Hey what do you know dropping literal shit on your food can cause bacteria spread.

Unless your vegetable is explicitly marked as washed before packaging you should always wash them. As for meat, again always wash your non ground meats prior to cooking. At the very least it will remove small bone shards that might be left over from the butchering process. At best surface cross contamination can be reduced or eliminated.

I hope all the people that say they don't wash their meat before cooking live in developing nations that don't have clean water access.

[Anonymous No.6596108]

>>6594743
> properly training a dog to catch rats

Cats do that shit for fun without training. Admit it, you don't know shit about animals