italians BTFO

[Anonymous No.6385311]

Please, /ck/, explain to me why you're making carbonara without cream, and I'll tell you how you're wrong in every way.

[Anonymous No.6385313]

>>6385311
because I'm not gringo

[Anonymous No.6385316]

>>6385311
too much pepper there
bacon isn't small enough

[Anonymous No.6385324]

>>6385311
because i dont suck as a cook and im able to create a creamy sauce with just eggs + pasta water.
cream is the easy way out for shitty cooks who cant into temperature controll and always get scrambled eggs

[Anonymous No.6385326]

>>6385313
>>6385324
get rekt you disgusting smelly southern european faux-white vermin i fucking hate you subhumans

[Anonymous No.6385338]

>>6385324
>>6385313
:~)

[Anonymous No.6385340]

>>6385313
>>6385324
>>6385338
:~~)

[Anonymous No.6385345]

>>6385313
>>6385324
>>6385338
>>6385340
:~~~)

[Anonymous No.6385369]

Must say, it's fucking hilarious how despite italian cuisine being top tier, they're completely fucking incapable of doing it well because they're all stupid. greasy, superstitious, ignorant, dogmatic morons who cling to things like "Noooo, mamma mia, you can't-a put-a cream-a in-a carbonara, no no no no no, don't-a you know-a that-a de ancient romans who-a invented-a it hadn't invented-a cream-a yet, and you don't-a use-a pancetta, no no no no the poor ancient farmers who-a invented-a it were so poor-a they-a had-a to use-a leftover pig anus-a", when actually carbonara was first invented in the mid 20th century, post-war, when the US brought shit tons of eggs and cream and bacon (not even pancetta, fucking bacon) to italy, and there is literally not a scrap of documentary evidence indicating carbonara ever existed before WWII.

Fucking pastaniggers

[Anonymous No.6385382]

>>6385324
This. Applies to risotto too.

[Anonymous No.6385440]

>>6385324

or just people who like cream, you huge faggot

explain why you SHOULDN'T use cream.

[Anonymous No.6385649]

only a fucking degenerate would leave out the cream

fucking degenerates

[Anonymous No.6385651]

>>6385369
top fucking kek. My grandpa Pellegrini used to actually say "we-uh didn't use-uh that because that-uh wasn't invented yet-uh"

[Anonymous No.6385729]

what was Italian cuisine like before they brought over tomatoes?

[Anonymous No.6385734]

carbonara tastes best dry

fuck off with your cream

[Anonymous No.6385757]

>>6385324
This. So much this.

I hate it when shit tier cooks try to justify their shitty ways by implying their hack methods are somehow superior to actual technique. Fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.6385760]

>>6385440
Because using cream ISN'T carbonara, faglord. You're making americanized alfredo sauce, not carbonara.

[Anonymous No.6385883]

>>6385311
because I don't fuck up the eggs?

[Anonymous No.6385896]

>>6385729
everything was without tomato

[Anonymous No.6385924]

>>6385760
>americanized

Do you not know what carbonara is?

[Anonymous No.6385940]

>>6385760

...and?

[Anonymous No.6385946]

>>6385369
>Noooo, mamma mia, you can't-a put-a cream-a in-a carbonara
my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.6385969]

Because cream muddles the flavor. It should be sharp and eggy, with a nice lingering aftertaste of bite from the pepper. The diary is simply unnecessary. Carbonara is not an Alfredo sauce with bacon in it.

I fry my pancetta with garlic for extra lulz.

[Anonymous No.6385988]

>>6385924

Carbonara has five ingredients.

Pasta
Pancetta
Parmesan
Eggs
Pepper

You render out the pancetta, boil your pasta until al dente. You beat the eggs and butter together with a bit of the Parmesan, but not too much. Then, pour in the rendered pancetta fat after it's had a few moments to cool down. Stir until slightly thickened. Place pasta in serving boil, toss in browned pieces of pancetta and parmesan, pour the egg mixture over the hot pasta and lightly toss until the egg sauce has thickened.

Add a light drizzle of olive oil and some more pepper on top.

Do you not know what carbonara is, faggot?

[Anonymous No.6386024]

>>6385988
>pancetta
>parmesan

[Anonymous No.6386057]

>>6385988
>>6386024

>>6385369
>not even pancetta, fucking bacon

seriously you fucking spergs it's hilarious watching you be so uppity yet so wrong

[Anonymous No.6386075]

>>6385316
>too much pepper
>in fucking carbonara

pls go

[Anonymous No.6386107]

>>6386057
g u a n c i a l e mate

[Anonymous No.6386121]

>>6385326
Seems like someone's got an axe to grind because he didn't invited to the last lemon party.

[Anonymous No.6386377]

>>6386107
l i t e r a l l y b a c on i m p o r t e d f r o m t h e U S

l i t e r a l l y d i d n ' t e x i s t b e f o r e W W I I

[Anonymous No.6386387]

because i make it with just egg yolks and don't need any more fat for a creamy feeling

[Anonymous No.6386416]

>>6386387
god you people are such fucking vermin

get fucking ebola or something, you cretins deserve that and worse

[Anonymous No.6386674]

>>6386416

[Anonymous No.6386738]

>>6385369
>they're completely fucking incapable of doing it well because they're all stupid. greasy, superstitious, ignorant, dogmatic morons
Kekked so hard.

[Anonymous No.6388094]

fucking southern europeans

[Anonymous No.6388166]

>>6385311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHJkB-wHLw

[Anonymous No.6388215]

>>6388166
I'm British though, and I completely agree about americans

A lot of them are descended from italians, or even irish, and are even more annoying

[Anonymous No.6388325]

>>6385988
>5 ingredients
>you managed to get 2 of them wrong

Literally how?

[Anonymous No.6388373]

>>6385988
>>6388325
>Pasta
>Eggs
>Cream (ideally a mixture of double and single)
>Parmesan
>Salt
>Pepper
>Bacon cubes of some sort (I usually go for lardons, but as long as it's roughly cubic rather than slices then whatever)
>Garlic (chopped very finely, and plenty of it)

You miss out any of these or add anything else, you're a fucking retard and I hope you get what's coming to you you pompous inbred fuck

[Anonymous No.6388461]

>>6388373
There is so much wrong with this.

[Anonymous No.6388511]

>>6385316
is this b8 or are you just a massive fucking dipshit?

i'm genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.6388549]

>>6388511
Pepper (and cheese) should be in the sauce, not on the top
Bacon needs to be small and roughly cubic so that it can get just a little crispy and gets enveloped pleasantly into the pasta.

[Anonymous No.6388638]

>>6388549
aaaah, okay completely misunderstood your original complaint. I agree, you shouldn't need to add extra pepper, there should be enough in the sauce already.

[Anonymous No.6388659]

No cream. I can make a wonderfully creamy and rich sauce with just the eggs. Why dump more fat in? The dish is already borderline heavy.

[Anonymous No.6388661]

>>6388659
Carbonara's meant to be heavy, you just accept that it's a heavy dish that you shouldn't eat constantly.

[Anonymous No.6389891]

>>6386107
This. Couldn't believe I was getting near the end of the thread and hadn't seen any based anon state guanciale rather than pancetta. At least one person knows what the fuck they're talking about.
Also, Pecorino Romano is to be used, along with Parmesan.

[Anonymous No.6389896]

>>6388373
Fucking terrible. Though the worst thing is the arrogance when stating bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6391480]

>>6388661
retard

[Anonymous No.6391483]

>>6385311
This is of course a trick post, because making carbonara is such a waste of time when you could be making decent food.

[LaPolea No.6391486]

https://youtu.be/3AAdKl1UYZs
This

[Anonymous No.6391497]

>>6389891
>>6389896
Carbonara was created when postwar food shortages in Rome required the allied occupiers to distribute military rations of eggs and bacon to the locals, which they used in pasta creating carbonara.

Not guanciale. Not even pancetta.

Bacon.

>>6391480
Nope, you're wrong about everything, get rekt you dimwitted pastanigger.

>>6391483
That is just so fucking wrong, carbonara is the best dish in the entire fucking world, I hope you and your entire fucking family die choking on your own vomit, or whatever you call "decent food".

>>6391486
Nope, he's wrong. Actually looking through the comments, I see a guy who does seriously know what what he's talking about better than that deluded old slimeball in the video:

"That's not the correct way to do carbonara, the proper way is eggs, cream, parmesan, salt, and pepper into the sauce, all whisked together, then chop up the pancetta and a few cloves of garlic nice and small, then when it's ready to go get the spaghetti into the water and shortly after start the pancetta, no oil (the fat is enough) in a wok, then when that's getting there add in the garlic and once they're done turn off the heat and let them sit in the wok until the pasta's done, at which point strain the pasta then add to the wok, mix it up and pour in the sauce, mix it in and in the likely event that there's liquid in the bottom then put the heat on low and continue mixing it in until the sauce has been reduced to the correct amount, not congealed but not pooling either, then serve while still warm and top with salt, not pepper or parmesan (that's just barbaric!).

Really, what would italians know about carbonara anyway?"

This nigga knows what's up.

[Anonymous No.6391510]

ITALIAN FOOD IS NOT ALL CARBS

LOOK HOW MUCH MEAT IT HAS

JUST LOOK AT THIS MEATY FUCKING PASTA

ITALIAN FOOD IS NOT JUST CARBS

[Anonymous No.6391513]

>>6391497
It's barely even food. It's a bowl of flavoured flour.

[Anonymous No.6391519]

>>6391510
Personally I'd say it ought to have quite a bit more bacon than that. I'd also point out that there is plenty of dairy in there so it has fat too.

>>6391513
literal social degenerate

[Anonymous No.6391534]

>>6391497
Not sure if troll or autism but 10/10 for effort. You managed to write a post without a single fact therein. Bravo!

[Anonymous No.6391535]

Woah there, calm down

the amount of autism in this thread might start a fire

[Anonymous No.6391538]

>>6391535
Wow I haven't seen that image in a long time...

[Anonymous No.6391550]

I can't even with this thread. So much butthurt and rage over fucking water flour and eggs. THAT YOU AREN'T EVEN EATING. Why you so mad by proxy, anons?

[Anonymous No.6391558]

>>6391550
>implying I'm not enjoying some delicious carbonara, better than anyone else here could make, correctly using cream, lardons, and parmesan, right this second

[Anonymous No.6391567]

>>6391558
The fucking autism is off the scale today.
BTW: if you have cream in there you're not eating carbonara

[Anonymous No.6391591]

>>6388373
1. just quit and buy canned alfredo sauce, faggot
2. die in a grease fire

[Anonymous No.6391596]

>>6388661
u a tard

[Anonymous No.6391609]

I actually attempted an authentic carbonara recipe that was posted in one of these shitflinging threads once. Was much different than I was used to with the cream but still tasted ok, felt like it was missing something though. Had to use panchetta rather than guanciale since I couldn't find it.

I followed this guy:
>>/ck/thread/S6254388#p6258179

Not sure I would make it again this way unless I find out there was something I did very wrong. It was just ok, not spectacular.

[Anonymous No.6391620]

http://munchies.vice.com/recipes/spaghetti-carbonara

>1. Throw the cream in the bin.

HAHAHAHA GET IT?!?!? HE PUT CREAM IN THE INGREDIENTS LIST AND THEN TOLD YOU TO THROW IT OUT!!!! XXXXXD !!!

Friendly reminder that you agree with some Vice hipster faggot.

I'm cooking some carbonara for dinner tomorrow and I'm using cream. A gentle smile upon my face, thinking about your dad lying down on top of you in an attempt at using bodily pressure to calm you during your next sperg out.

[Anonymous No.6391624]

Personally, I think cream dilutes the flavor of carbonara to the point that it's not worth it. I have always made carbonara the traditional way, but one time I started making it and realized I didn't have enough eggs for my pasta ratio. So, I said fuck it and added some cream. Worst carbonara ever. Never again.
There are plenty of other sauces that you can and should use cream in, why dick up a wonderful dish that doesn't need it and actually detracts from the dish?

[Anonymous No.6391627]

>>6391620
You sound like you have the IQ of a turnip.
Please shut up.

[Anonymous No.6391632]

>>6391620
Gonna fill that empty hole where cooking skill goes with some fat, tubby?

[Anonymous No.6391636]

>>6391627
>>6391632

I sense some derriere devastation.

[Anonymous No.6391640]

>>6391636
Yep, you're dumb as a box of rocks.

[Anonymous No.6391999]

>>6391632
>one actual sensible fucking guy shows up
>hurrr gurrrr durrr ur just faaatt :^DDDDDDDdd
Fucking untermensch vermin

>>6391640
At least he's not a smelly, dirty, excessively hairy, utterly assblasted southern european pastanigger, like you are

[Anonymous No.6393544]

>>6385988
>carbonara has five ingredients
>uses 7 ingredients

[Anonymous No.6393590]

I have Italians in my family and I've never even had this dish.

[Anonymous No.6393869]

>>6393590
>has italians in family
>never eaten the best dish there is
absolutely disgusting on both counts

[Anonymous No.6394228]

>>6385324
I mixed egg whites, a whole egg and roasted red pepper hummus together with jamaixan jerk spice and cooked it with spaghetti and it wasn't bad.

Is this a cabonaro?

[Anonymous No.6394248]

>>6386674
tha'ts a really nice gif

[Anonymous No.6394329]

I use Creme Fraich in my carbonara.

And I only use the yolks of the eggs.

[Anonymous No.6394330]

>>6394228
sure, who the fuck really cares

[Anonymous No.6394345]

>Pecorino
>Eggs
>Olive Oil
>Pancetta
>Fresh Parsley
>Garlic
>Pepper/Salt
>Long pasta

If your 'carbonara' contains anything else, you are a pleb.

[Anonymous No.6394565]

>>6394329
Those are both wrong, you have to do it the right way, >>6391497 is a good place to start.

>>6394345
>pecorino
>using the incorrect hipster meme cheese over the correct parmesan
>olive oil
>ever being used in any part of the dish
>parsley
>going in fucking carbonara

jesus fucking christ, I want to say in a million different ways how much of a retard you are and how much contempt I feel for you and how much I want you to suffer, but I can encapsulate all of that by just saying that you're a pastanigger

haha, pastanigger.

[Anonymous No.6394645]

>Start pasta
>Heat pan to medium-high
>Throw in Pancetta
>Once crispy, tiny splash of starch water to help fat render
>While rendering, eggs, Pecorino, black pepper get whisked to stiff
>Transfer spaghetti to Pancetta pan, a bit more starch water
>Take pan off heat
>Slowly pour in egg mixture while stirring

I have no strong feelings for or against cream, this is just how I was taught.

[Anonymous No.6395214]

>>6394645
>I have no strong feelings for or against cream, this is just how I was taught.
And this is how it SHOULD be done.

maybe sprinkle some parsley over the top afterwards

[Anonymous No.6395253]

>>6385988
Lol nigga, you don't use parmesan in Carbonara. You use fucking Pecorino.

Now stop annoying everyone with you fake true carbonara recipe.

[Anonymous No.6395320]

Okay everybody, what the fuck. Its just food, what tastes good to you?
Isn't it obvious how to solve an argument? You do an experiment and gather evidence. Someone needs to correctly cook both varieties, one authentic and another with added cream and let a blind tasting panel vote. If one is strongly favored, then its the winner.
You people act like you cook it every damn day and are experts at it, so why don't you DO SO AND POST FUCKING PICS

[Anonymous No.6395323]

>>6395320
>u mad

[Anonymous No.6395351]

>>6395214
I make carbonara using a lot of cream but then again I try and keep my recipes authentic. If people don't like traditional carbonara that's fine with me.

[Anonymous No.6395357]

This thread is now a "Every time you put cream in carbonara a dirty Italian dies in a pizza fire" thread.

[Anonymous No.6395861]

>>6395351
Finally, an american with some sense and decency.

>>6395357
Brb, putting cream in carbonara 59.83 million times

[Anonymous No.6395978]

jesus christ i love carbonara so much

[Anonymous No.6396021]

>>6391497
Soooooo, you're saying that the Italians never had eggs or anything like bacon, and when these miraculously started being supplied, decided to invent a dish for their new ingredients?
No, carbonara was invented by cafes and restaurants in Italy to serve to the many American troops that were stationed there as it appealed to their taste. it's likely various places would have used whatever bacon-like ingredient they could, but eventually settled on guanciale as it gradually became a common dish (probably way after the war).

[Anonymous No.6396038]

>>6391609
1) Put a bit of pasta water when you put the pasta into the pan and don't forget to toss, that will give the sauce more body.

2)You put way too much spaghetti (or way too little sauce), that is almost enough for 2 people. For 2 people you need at least 2 eggs (add an extra yolk for a richer sauce) and a good handful of cheese. The final dish should be glossy and coated, not bone dry.

3) Finish with a bit of extra Pecorino and more black pepper, your dish is lacking in both.

If your ingredients are solid then this dish should taste amazing. It is basically just fat, salt and carbs after all.

[Anonymous No.6396251]

>>6385311
Are you seriously telling me people make carbonara without cream? Fucking sickening, next it'll be without bacon.

[Anonymous No.6396497]

>Creamy carbonara
>Well done steak
>Pineapple on pizza
>Chicken in non tendy form
>Ramen

Can we add to this list of autism triggering foods? I feel with enough research we could have a breakthrough similar to discovering the link between red food dye and hyperactivity.

[Anonymous No.6396534]

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[Anonymous No.6396581]

>>6385369
I know a lot of Italians and they're all lovely people. In general they seemed very knowledgeable about Italian cuisine and wine.

[Anonymous No.6396584]

>>6396251
>doesn't know what carbonara actually is

[Anonymous No.6397449]

>>6396584
>doesn't know what carbonara actually is

[Anonymous No.6397452]

>>6385940
there is no "and"

nobody really gives a shit if someone wants to use cream, it just isn't "carbonara"

[Anonymous No.6397453]

>>6396497
Where's your chili bean faggot

[Anonymous No.6397967]

>>6397453

I would've replied earier, but I was hugging m'pillow and listening to my therapist's voicemail.

[Anonymous No.6398461]

can someone post an actual carbonara recipe here

that isn't >>6391497 this autist

[Anonymous No.6398467]

>>6397452
carbonara = cream based sauce
no cream = -1carbonara

[Anonymous No.6398482]

>>6385311
this troll should start a thread now saying that paella is without rabbit, but with seafood

[Anonymous No.6398483]

In this thread Americans say Italians can't cook
Here's how to fix your brain:
Look up Italy on the map (it's not a state it's a country across the ocean. No you can't drive there)
Go eat some Italian food made by Italians
Complain that it's not just a blob of melted cheddar cheese on a lb of pasta
Fail to understand subtle tastes and varied healthy meals not consistening wntirely of oil and salt

[Anonymous No.6398485]

>>6398461
There's nothing to post that hasn't been posted a thousand times over.

Cook some pancetta in a pan with a bit of oil, add pepper at this step too if you want. At the same time you should be cooking your spaghetti as desired (al dente you fucker). Add a bit of pasta water and your spaghetti to the pan and mix it up a bit. In a bowl mix a few eggs, as much cheese of your choice as you like (parmesan, romano, who the fuck cares use what you like) and pepper. Beat, then stir into spaghetti mixture (heat should be off at this point). Add more cheese or pepper as desired, and finish mixing. IT'S FUCKING DONE.

[Anonymous No.6398538]

>>6398461
carbonara means everything should be burnt black, no creamy

[Anonymous No.6398597]

>>6388215
Depends where you go
The whole plains/Midwest area is know for being nice and are almost exclusively german/scandavian decendents

[Anonymous No.6400414]

>>6398461
No. "That autist" knows exactly how to make a good carbonara. There is nothing at all wrong with that recipe, you should follow it.

Learn some humility, that guy is your better.

[Anonymous No.6400450]

Noodles with ham and eggs. Whatever.

[Anonymous No.6400465]

you can, but its more of an american thing i think

[Anonymous No.6400583]

I actually tried proper carbonara very recently and fell in fuckin love with the dish - to a point that im cooking it 2-3 times a week.
Its fucking brilliant - and so fuckin simple to make with relatively cheap ingredients.

I make the regular carbonara - except i add garlic with the pancetta/bacon. Once you get it right its extremely easy to make the sauce creamy.

Anyone advocating adding cream is likely murricun - if you add cream - its not carbonara - any chef worth his salt will tell you this.

Not to say adding cream is bad - it just creates a fundamentally different dish as a result.

[Anonymous No.6400592]

>>6400450
Die subhuman

[Anonymous No.6400608]

>>6400414
that autist has cream in his recipe so i know that hes a stupid nigger
>>6400583
>Not to say adding cream is bad
no, its bad.

[Anonymous No.6400726]

Italian here, don't eat that much carbonara because I need to keep my cholesterol levels low, but this is what my mother told me
>put on pasta
>put bacon cubes in skillet until brown
>drain the excess fat
>whisk whole egg with salt, pepper, teaspoon pecorino or parmesan
>drain pasta (keep some of the cooking water), put it back in the empty pot, keep fire on low
>while pot and pasta are still hot, pour egg and bacon and stir until right consistency, add couple spoons of cooking water if needed

Cream really is autism-triggering, I don't use it because I've been taught not to, but I don't generally dislike it. You get laughed at as a shit-tier cook if you use it. It's a shame because I love me some pasta strascicata.