/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6192929]

Cheddar, the most overrated shit cheese in the world. Most bland tasting cheese ever, its like eating cheese curds.
Every cheap gouda is at least 100 times better

[Anonymous No.6192934]

I disagree. Thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous No.6192947]

>>6192929

It's funny to listen to americans say stuff like this, and in the next breath they'll defend counterfeiting until they're blue in the face and say they don't need no nanny state to tell them what's good

I bet op lives in wisconsin

[Anonymous No.6192948]

do you even extra sharp hella aged cheddar fucker?

anyway you should be buying 1000 day gouda fucker.

[Anonymous No.6192963]

>>6192929

I have literally never seen cheddar that colour

[Anonymous No.6192968]

>>6192929
Maybe I want a cheese that adds a bit of sharpness and mouth feel to my sandwich without overpowering the other flavors?

I tend to favor bland cheeses that contain other ingredients, so maybe my opinion is shit.

My top three:

Havarti with chives and horseradish.
Pepper jack cheese.
Pimento cheese spread.

[Anonymous No.6192976]

all glory to the stilton blue

[Anonymous No.6192980]

Gouda is ok but Cheddar and Colby are obviously far superior. I don't get why Europeans eat so much Gouda, it has basically no flavor.

[Anonymous No.6192985]

>>6192929
>Most bland tasting cheese ever
>Every cheap gouda is at least 100 times better

Sharp chedders are far stronger than cheap goudas. You have no idea what you're talking about. Enjoy thinking kraft singles are cheddar.

[Anonymous No.6192997]

>>6192929
Are you this guy? >>6192957

[Anonymous No.6192999]

>>6192980

go find real aged gouda and come back

[Anonymous No.6193004]

>>6192929
>its like eating cheese curds
Who the fuck doesn't like eating cheese curds?

Also you are probably just eating shitty California 'cheddar'

[Anonymous No.6193012]

>>6193004
>it wasn't us guys hey look over there!

We know it was you. Let's move on.

[Anonymous No.6193014]

>>6192963
>I have literally never seen cheddar that colour
dying cheddar yellow/orange is a tradition from medieval England, its how real cheddar should be

[Anonymous No.6193019]

>>6193012
do you seriously think that wouldn't taste good?

West coast dairy is Kraft style bad, the good stuff comes from Vermont, inland New York and the upper midwest. Cold inland northern places

[Anonymous No.6193025]

>>6192929
Don't eat it then.

[Anonymous No.6193027]

>>6193019
>cheese food

No, wisconsin. It won't be good.

And stop trying to insert yourself in with places that make good cheese. Just because you're far from california doesn't make you like us.

[Anonymous No.6193038]

>>6193027
dude, stop thinking all process cheese is Kraft tier. It is delicious when you don't buy the cheap stuff, thats like saying you don't like beer because Bud Light

also, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.6193049]

>>6193038
>some of it is actually good

amazing

[Anonymous No.6193052]

>>6193049
Do you just not like things that taste like cheese?

Please try and be logical and not a chemophobe. I bet you also think vaccines cause autism

[Anonymous No.6193059]

>>6193052

When you and I see the word "cheese" in print, different things come to mind.

I bet you think outback is fine dining.

[Anonymous No.6193068]

>>6193059
I don't think only one specific style of cheese can be good, and I don't let the fact that the most widespread example of a style is shit cloud my judgement and make me become all emotional

[Anonymous No.6193087]

>>6193068

The only one being emotional here is you, wisconsinfriend. Every year my office gets flooded with gift baskets sent by various people, inevitably there's some of your awful "cheese food" labeled as something that it's not. Sometimes it's mislabeled as "cheddar", other times "gouda", or various other names. One time as a joke I offered some to my boss after taking the label off. He almost spit it out.

Kraft isn't why your state is synonymous with garbage cheese any more than saying "but California" will excuse >>6193012

[Anonymous No.6193102]

>>6193087
No one thinks of any state but Wisconsin when they think of good cheese, even if that cheese you posted wasn't good (it almost certainly doesn't taste bad) it doesn't change the fact that americans associate Wisconsin with quality cheese and California with skim milk, and rightfully so, only a very small portion of america's quality cheese comes out of california but a huge portion of its factory farmed process cheese does

[Anonymous No.6193106]

>>6193102
>americans associate Wisconsin with quality cheese

How many hours of your life have you spent outside the borders of Wisconsin? You may include rafting trips down the St Croix river if you would like.

[Anonymous No.6193110]

>>6193102
>No one thinks of any state but Wisconsin when they think of good cheese
Not the Anon you're responding to, but one of the best cheesemakers in the US is located in Thorp, WI. She only does Gouda, though. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.6193111]

>>6193106
I don't even live in Wisconsin

I grew up in Minnesota and live on the east coast now

[Anonymous No.6193115]

>>6192929
OP has never had real Cheddar.

[Anonymous No.6193117]

>>6193110
about half or maybe a little more of america's most respected cheese makers live in Wisconsin, most of the rest live in New York or Vermont, almost non of them live in the west or south

California is more like Mississippi or Alabama when it comes to cheese than it is like the north

[Anonymous No.6193121]

>>6193111

Must have been quite a shock to come here and see cheeses that have icky mold and stuff. Have you tried any local cheeses yet? Our ways might seem strange at first but they're really good.

[Anonymous No.6193125]

>>6193121
Do you seriously think Wisconsin only makes process cheddar cheese?

It literally makes the majority of the countries good cheese of almost every variety, including being the only place where a lot of less popular but delicious old styles are made in america

[Anonymous No.6193128]

>>6193117
>this is what the midwest actually believes

They probably don't sell Cowgirl Creamery stuff in flyover because it's too expensive, but if you ever make it to a coast you can get it in any whole foods. I think I might have seen it in Chicago even, right before the mayor bulldozed the store in the middle of the night on the grounds of supporting terrorism.

[Anonymous No.6193129]

>>6193128
the upper midwest is pretty affluent, you seem genuinely confused

[Anonymous No.6193130]

>>6193125

No, like I said I've had pasteurize process "smoked gouda" and many other varieties of your "cheese". I know it's not all fake cheddar.

[Anonymous No.6193133]

>>6193129

Compared to the deep south maybe.

[Anonymous No.6193136]

>>6193133
California has a few very rich areas, but overall it is far less affluent, plus has massive taxes and inflated prices so people live much poorer than their income would allow them elsewhere

[Anonymous No.6193137]

>>6193136
>but california! california!

There you go again. Why don't you just move there already.

[Anonymous No.6193138]

>>6193117
>more of america's most respected cheese makers live in Wisconsin, most of the rest live in New York or Vermon
I don't know if this is true, but in my experience it seems to be. The best US made cheeses I've had in my life came from those three states. And with the exception of Holland Family in WI they were all hellaciously expensive compared to the cheeses one finds in an American supermarket.

World class cheese is definitely made in the US, but you have to go out of your way to find it, and when you do you're gonna pay a serious luxury price for it. Because making cheese in a more traditional manner is far more expensive than churning out industrial crap, and the market for it is very small, since most folks balk at the price it entails.

[Anonymous No.6193140]

all cheese is overrated. I don't eat any of it.

[Anonymous No.6193141]

>>6193137
I was responding to a chain of posts about california

This whole thing was about some guy from California thinking his state makes all the best cheese and Wisconsin only makes process cheese

[Anonymous No.6193159]

>>6193141

No one here has claimed to be, or even made the slightest suggestion that they are from california or that california makes "the best cheese". Not a single poster.

You sound like those /pol/tards who claim not to like black people but can't stop posting about their fantasies about getting triple penetrated by black cocks. I think the word is "tsundere", isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6193160]

>>6193159
seems like you are backtracking now

[Anonymous No.6193162]

>>6193160

Point out the posts, if that's what you think.

[Anonymous No.6193163]

God tier Red Leicester master race reporting in

[Anonymous No.6193170]

>>6192947
What are you even rambling about? I bet you are american.

[Anonymous No.6193193]

>>6192929

American cheese Is the eternal


G O A T
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A
T

[Anonymous No.6193203]

>>6193159
California does make some of the world's greatest cheeses for common cheese. (Cheddar, mozeraella, swiss, etc)

Europe has all their fancy variety.

[Anonymous No.6193208]

>>6193193
I didn't think Americans made much goat cheese though?

[Anonymous No.6193210]

>>6193208


Funny

[Anonymous No.6193219]

Enough with this contrarian bullshit. You guys a re by far the worst blue board with the constant rampant shitposting about everything.

So what if your "refined palate" ffinds normal shit disgusting? Don't fucking eat it.

[Anonymous No.6193228]

>>6193219
>So what if your "refined palate" ffinds normal shit disgusting?
>normal

Midwest detected.

[Anonymous No.6193233]

California knows cheese, alright.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.6193237]

>>6193228
No fucktard, I live in Florida. Never had a god damn care about muh midwest.

[Anonymous No.6193241]

>>6193233
>pasturized

[Anonymous No.6193245]

>>6193237

Same thing

>>6193233
>california donates its industrial waste to the poor
>wisconsin proudly stamps branding all over the package and brags about it while wearing a cheese hat

[Anonymous No.6193247]

>>6193245
No, California. The rest of the country donates it to you.

>mfw i first saw a commercial for "california cheese" as a kid

[Anonymous No.6193249]

>>6193247

I'm from the northeast. I haven't even been near california in about 4 years.

[Anonymous No.6193250]

>>6193249
Lucky you.

[Anonymous No.6193251]

>>6193237
Sorry. It's usually Midwesterners who use the word "normal" like it's a good thing. I guess Florida is enough of a backwater that you don't realize most of what passes for "normal food" in most of this country is garbage.

[Anonymous No.6193257]

>>6193250

I'd visit CA again sooner than the midwest. You people can't even drink what you want without worrying about what other people will think of you.

[Anonymous No.6193262]

>>6193251
Lol, just lol

[Anonymous No.6193265]

>>6193257
I don't know what the latter part is a reference to, but I'm sure will find some way to cope with your absence.

[Anonymous No.6193272]

>>6193265
>I don't know what the latter part is a reference to

Easy. I drink what I want, based on my mood. This means I can enjoy a wide variety of beverages.

You drink what won't get you branded a traitor to america (imported anything especially beer), a communist subversive (vodka), a homosexual (gin), or a woman (wine). This limits you to beer (which you call "craft beer" because you are insecure), and brown liquor made from grains, out of a sports university shot glass (requirement: screaming after you shoot it, and chasing it with an entire can of light beer).

Two kinds of alcoholic beverage. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6193278]

>>6193272
>You drink what won't get you branded a traitor to america (imported anything especially beer), a communist subversive (vodka), a homosexual (gin), or a woman (wine)
What the actual fuck are you babbling about?
Are you high?

[Anonymous No.6193282]

>>6193278

You tell me. You're the one defending it.

[Anonymous No.6193286]

>>6193282
Defending what, exactly? Your nonsensical rambling?

[Anonymous No.6193287]

>>6193237
Wait... you live in Florida year round? and you think you are more civilized than any northerner?

[Anonymous No.6193289]

>>6193286

Just because your culture sounds crazy when it's put into words doesn't mean I'm rambling nonsensically.

It's ok, as long as you understand it's utterly indefensible.

[Anonymous No.6193290]

>>6193257
California is a nice place to visit, the midwest a nice place to live (though in the southern reaches of the midwest that is less true)

[Anonymous No.6193299]

>>6193272
Why would you ever drink imported beer when you have access to midwestern craft beer?

Also you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Your post is paranoid and delusional. where did you get the idea that people don;t drink vodka in the midwest because of communists? I am genuinely curious

Also the midwest drinks almost all of america's brandy, don't forget that

[Anonymous No.6193300]

>>6193287
See
>>6193262

[Anonymous No.6193302]

>>6193290

I lived in the upper midwest for 2 long years. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Anonymous No.6193303]

>>6193289
The concepts you are describing to me in that post are so absolutely foreign and nonsensical, it verges on literal gibberish. I'm not entirely convinced that you aren't a dementia-addled retiree, who has escaped from the home and found yourself an internet connection.

[Anonymous No.6193315]

>>6193299
Just ignore him. He is either a troll or one of those people who live in big cities that needs to shit all over everywhere else so he can feel good about paying the same price to live in a tiny apartment that would pay for a decent house anywhere else in the country.

[Anonymous No.6193320]

>>6193299
>why would you ever want to drink beer from outside of one specific region

See now, the issue here is that you don't actually *like* beer. You are accustomed to it, or more accurately, you are accustomed to the beer in your region, and you mistook that familiarity for liking it.

You're like a fish saying "why would I ever want to see what it's like above the surface? I have all the plankton I need right here, best plankton in the world yessirree"

[Anonymous No.6193321]

>>6193320
The fish would suffocate above the surface, and there are no plankton on land, let alone plankton superior to those in the sea.

[Anonymous No.6193322]

>>6192929
rolling for velveeta

[Anonymous No.6193325]

>>6193321

Much like how a midwesterner would suffocate without pasteurize process cheese food and deep fried twinkies.

[Anonymous No.6193326]

>>6193320
Ignoring the fact that your analogy is absolutely shit. You do realize that liquor stores aren't exclusive to where you live right? We can get beer from anywhere in the country just like you.

[Anonymous No.6193330]

>>6193326
1. No
2. There is more to alcohol than just beer beer beer all the time

[Anonymous No.6193331]

>>6193325
Humans don't acquire oxygen from pasteurized cheese or deep fried Twinkies. Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.6193333]

>>6193330
Okay you really are delusional if you think that there is no hard liquor or wine sold here and it is all beer all the time.

[Anonymous No.6193341]

>>6193333
He claimed just a few posts back that drinking vodka would get one labeled as a communist. You're dealing with a compete and utter mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.6193344]

>>6193320
I drink beer from all over america, but buying imported stuff is rarely a good option when so much better american stuff is readily available for less money

[Anonymous No.6193345]

>>6193320
>you are accustomed to the beer in your region
You can find locally brewed beer of every style in the midwest

Its not 90% west coast IPAs like other parts of the country

[Anonymous No.6193346]

>>6193237
Kek "Florida". Your opinion doesn't count anymore.

[Anonymous No.6193348]

>>6193330
>There is more to alcohol than just beer beer beer all the time
Do you seriosuly think they don't have liquor in the midwest? The midwest probably rinks more liquor than any other part of the country as well as beer

[Anonymous No.6193351]

>>6193272

When do gay people drink gin? that's a southern thing as they sit on a porch complaining about minorities

[Anonymous No.6193357]

>>6193348
No wonder you mid westerners can't spell. "Rink"

[Anonymous No.6193360]

>>6193357
yeah, leaving the 'd' out of drink is a spelling error, not a typo. I actually forgot there was a 'd' in the word

[Anonymous No.6193376]

>>6193360
I never said anything about spelling error vs typo. We're to drunk to remember or to stupid from years of binge drinking?

[Anonymous No.6193380]

>>6193333
No, I didn't say that. You are putting words in my mouth.

However, the best wine stores where you live are like the worst ones where I live.

[Anonymous No.6193381]

>>6193299
>Also the midwest drinks almost all of america's brandy, don't forget that
That is a positive, but not enough to get around the insufferable "we're all just regular folks" attitude everyone spouts there.

[Anonymous No.6193384]

>>6193348
>there is only beer and liquor
FLYOVER
L
Y
O
V
E
R

[Anonymous No.6193404]

>>6193376
you said can't spell, which is not the same as can't type

[Anonymous No.6193408]

>>6193381
>America's Brandy
America doesn't make good brandy

[Anonymous No.6193410]

>>6193381
'regular folks' is code for middle and upper class white people, so of course the midwest is that

[Anonymous No.6193412]

>>6193408
By america's brandy, I mean the brandy america drinks, regardless of where it was produced

[Anonymous No.6193413]

>>6193404
>>6193404
I know what I said. We're arguing the same thing

[Anonymous No.6193415]

>>6192929
>Most bland tasting cheese ever, its like eating cheese curds.
>has never had pic related
i was in a store that didn't have cabot, got whatever other brand of cheddar they had in the sharpest variety and it had no flavor. cabot makes a good cheddar though.

[Anonymous No.6193417]

>Americans pretending they know Cheddar

[Anonymous No.6193419]

>>6193410
>'regular folks' is code for middle and upper class white people
You forgot boring. It's code for boring middle and upper class white people.

[Anonymous No.6193427]

I don't think I've ever had flavourful gouda, and yeah it wouldn't surprise me if your clappian "cheddar" cheese-flavoured rennet doesn't have a lot of taste.

[Anonymous No.6193435]

m8

[Anonymous No.6193466]

>>6192947
We don't give a shit about "counterfeiting" because American imitations of wines and cheeses and what have you are generally superior to the European originals.

[Anonymous No.6193485]

>>6193466
>Americans claim to make the best beer in the world now
>barely have any sour beers

[Anonymous No.6193489]

>>6193466
>American imitations of wines and cheeses and what have you are generally superior to the European originals.
Stop that shit right now, you're making yourself look stupid, and being an embarrassment to your country.

[Anonymous No.6193552]

>>6193485
>>barely have any sour beers
What?
Sour beers are far easier to find in america than anywhere else in the world

[Anonymous No.6193567]

>>6192929
>go to independent cheese shop(Yorkshire)
>buy several cheeses for x-mas
>leave to warm up before eating
>feed the Cheddar to someone with a nut allergy
>whats this odd woody taste
>that cheese is so mature it tastes nutty jane

[Anonymous No.6193576]

Try sharp cheddar you autistic fuck, or go back to plastic kraft "cheese" you retard american.

[Anonymous No.6193581]

>>6193576
>sharp cheddar
will i need a whetstone for that

[Anonymous No.6193588]

>>6193567
>leaving your cheese to get sweaty, oily, and to separate into SHIT and milk solids
disgusting

[Anonymous No.6193599]

>>6193588
>be me
>ask someone who makes cheese at an independent(small award winning) dairy how to eat their cheese
>"leave it out for a few hours, it should be eaten at room temperature"

[Anonymous No.6193609]

>>6193581
I think you mean hone

[Anonymous No.6193631]

>>6193609
Ok, whethone, whatever

[Anonymous No.6193667]

As a Dutchman, I am deeply offended by some of the posts in this thread.

[Anonymous No.6193683]

>>6193609
No he means a whetstone. Hones are for aligning edges (honing), whetstones for removing metal (sharpening).

If you use a grooved hone, please stop cooking.

[Anonymous No.6193688]

>>6193683
You don't know shit. Go back to your guided rod systems

[Anonymous No.6193701]

>>6193552
when they're imported from belgium

[Anonymous No.6193719]

>>6193688
>guided rod systems
The fuck are you talking about? Even if I couldn't freehand tip-first on my Norton 1000/4000 waterstone, why is using a guided rod system a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.6193728]

>>6193719
>Norton
Kek
Those are made in mexico now, enjoy you're embedded grit issues

[Anonymous No.6193739]

>>6193728
>now
Except I've had mine for almost ten years and it works just fine.

[Anonymous No.6193747]

>>6193435
>tfw still have a quarter block in the fridge
What should I make?

[Anonymous No.6193755]

>>6193667
As everyone else everywhere, ever, I am deeply offended that you believe anyone cares what the Dutch have to say on anything. You're just low-quality copies of Germans. You're like the Chinese factory knock-off version. No one cares what you think.

[Anonymous No.6193764]

>>6193739
Just checked my stone's case. 1000 grit made in U.S.A., 4000 grit made in Italy, assembled in U.S.A. Now will you tell me what's your problem or are you just trollan'?

[Anonymous No.6193907]

>>6193764
Production moved to mexico in 2007

[Anonymous No.6193966]

>>6193701
>when they're imported from belgium
we have those too, but i probably have 4 or 5 different sours from local breweries at the shelf of my closest super market and a few sours from other less local american breweries

[Anonymous No.6193967]

>>6193907
2015 - 2007 = 8
>I've had mine for almost ten years

[Anonymous No.6193975]

>>6193967

You asked me why yours didn't say made in mexico. I gave you the answer. Why are you getting so ass blasted?

[is ck short for cake No.6195419]

>>6193747
MAKARONI CHEES

[is ck short for cake No.6195421]

>>6193747
>>6195419

No but really, something like this?

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/jamie-oliver/fresh-tagliatelle-with-sprouting-broccoli-and-oozy-cheese-sauce-recipe.html

If you haven't bought the cheese for anything special, may as well use it in a slap-dash recipe.

[Anonymous No.6195558]

>>6195419
>>6195421
50% discount in Tesco so I just grabbed it without any plan. Will try, thanks. Was actually thinking of mac and cheese though.

[Anonymous No.6195610]

>>6193466
0/10

[Anonymous No.6195630]

>>6193599
>it should be eaten at room temperature
This is true. If you're going to get really serious about it you'll never even wrap cheese in plastic because the stuff is alive and ought to be able to breathe.

When I go to the really high end cheese market where the woman behind the counter personally knows the people who made every cheese she sells (for $15 - $25/lb, mind you) the cheese only comes wrapped in wax paper.

[Anonymous No.6195690]

>>6192929
Wut, aged cheddar is god tier, dem calcium lactate crystals got me salivating just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.6195695]

>>6193567
Fellow yorkshire bro, where is this cheesery you speak off, might check it out.

[Anonymous No.6195732]

>Eating anything but California-made Camembert and Triple Cremes
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.6195923]

>>6195695
He likely isn't even tyke, m8. People lie, you know.

[Anonymous No.6196990]

>>6195923
Mate thats a reet threb int steenes, wah wud thee lie lahk that.

[Anonymous No.6197008]

>>6193130
>not realizing Wisconsin has a fuck ton of artisanal cheese

[Anonymous No.6197009]

>>6193004
>>6193087
>>6193102
>>6193117
>>6193128
>>6193136
>>6193141

http://www.kcet.org/living/food/the-nosh/12-california-cheeses-that-everyone-should-know.html

Please learn about things before you discuss them.

[Anonymous No.6197019]

>>6193376
>We're to drunk to remember or to stupid from years of binge drinking?

Literal non-English

[Anonymous No.6197108]

It can come it pretty cool varieties. Picked up a half lb of roasted garlic white cheddar. Shît was bretty gud.

[Anonymous No.6197115]

>>6193272
You might actually be clinically insane, you're rambling about almost quite literally nothing.

[Anonymous No.6197119]

>>6193485
Even of that were true it would hardly make a difference

[Anonymous No.6197124]

>>6197119
and its a ridiculous comment because great sour beers are far easier to find in america than anywhere else

[Anonymous No.6197503]

>>6192980
Colby cheese was actually founded a few miles north of me

if you c-cared a-anon

[Anonymous No.6199276]

>>6197019
You forgot a period. Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6199314]

>>6193351
No, you're thinking of mint juleps

[Anonymous No.6199383]

>>6193975
I just came back to this thread and what is this?
I'm not
>>6193967
No embedded grit issues. Still don't know what >>6193688
this guy's problem was.

[Anonymous No.6199409]

Thoughts on wensleydale? Became one of my favourites after eating an ungodly amount of free samples on a factory tour whilst on holiday in Yorkshire a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.6200198]

>>6199314
My mistake

[Anonymous No.6200887]

>>6192929

Yeah, my extra sharp cheddar is bland as uck. Guess I have no taste buds. I was going to say dumbest comment, then I read this...

>>6192947
I bet you are American, or worse...a Canadian.

[Anonymous No.6200891]

>>6193004

I don't enjoy cheese curds, they're bland and chewy. I don't even really like them with my poutine.

I'm American, but the worst cheese I've ever had was American...processed crap. I hate it, no flavor.

It's the only cheese I think I hate. I even enjoy cheese whiz if used properly. Whatever that means.

[Anonymous No.6200929]

>>6199409
Excellent. I like to enjoy it with a crisp apple.

Personally prefer caerphilly in that cheese category though