/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5727647]

Why aren't you vegan yet, /ck/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4DJh-L7Ys

[Anonymous No.5727651]

>>5727647
my god, that movie is disturbing

i'll never eat meat again

[Anonymous No.5727661]

>>5727651
meat is murder

[Anonymous No.5727663]

>>5727651

>20:09:11
>20:13:17

Shit, you watched a 1.5hr movie in 4 minutes. No wonder you were convinced.

[Anonymous No.5727668]

>>5727663
i already watched it

[Anonymous No.5727669]

>>5727647
>>5727651
>>5727661
>how to samefag the movie

[Anonymous No.5727673]

>>5727647
NOTHING, I FELT NOTHING

[Anonymous No.5727683]

>>5727661

[Anonymous No.5727688]

>>5727673
you are not human then

[Anonymous No.5727708]

I watched about half an hour of that movie, and its pretty fucked up, but I think its more to do with the importance of preventing animal cruelty and promoting animal welfare. The whole thing is purposely designed to be incredibly emotive but hardly convincing.
The idea in the start that we are being specieist (which they compare to racist or sexist) by owning pets or eating meat is laughable. Even if you accept that this is so, how is this proven by showing cases of animal abuse when I know neither my pets or my meat is treated like that.
In summary: If you're a 12 year old girl and you make it through what amounts to an hour and a half of pure animal abuse then youre probably going vegan. If you're a normal person you will switch it off after about 20 minutes and call op a fag.

[Anonymous No.5727710]

Do you like eating beef? Enjoy your Alzheimer's. The following book explains how mad cow's disease and Alzheimer's are the same disease:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/9z9ymxn0x5khcpq/Ferrell_-_International_Meat_Crisis_-_The_Meat_You_Eat_is_Contaminated_and_Infected_to_a_Degree_Never_Before_Known_in_Human_History_(2001).pdf

[Anonymous No.5727711]

Because there is no reason to become a vegan at all unless you subscribe to some sort of quasi-religious bullshit code of ethics that requires that yout live in a first-world country, are reasonably comfortable, and you ignore every other way you exploit animals?

No one is a vegan who needs to be, and everyone who is a vegan, oughtn't be.

[Anonymous No.5727714]

>>5727688
I'm a real human bean. I saw the corpses of my parents at the funeral and not even a glimpse of sadness was felt. I feel nothing, NOTHING.

[Anonymous No.5727718]

>mfw OP isn't vegan enough to stop devouring cock

[Anonymous No.5727722]

>>5727710
>mad cow's disease and Alzheimer'
Yeah, actually there are many ways to be Alzheimer's like symptoms. A while back there was an analog of meth or heroin which caused it for those who took it. Also there is modern medicine available which greatly reduces the symptoms of having it, and in the future it will be a disease which is easily cured.

So, thanks, I'll keep eating my beef. I hope you never leave your home because then you might get sick or hurt!!! Oh, wait, the stuff in your home is killing you and giving you diseases too!!!!

[Anonymous No.5727727]

>>5727647
that pic made me hungry for a club sandwich so I made one with some fries.

[Anonymous No.5727731]

>>5727647
>toasting lettuce

[Anonymous No.5727744]

I am. It's easy, saves money, so I have more for hobbies. Do carnists really take several minutes to shit? I've watched real carnivores shit, and it's instant. Y'all need more fiber.

[Anonymous No.5727752]

>>5727722
>A while back there was an analog of meth or heroin which caused it for those who took it.

Any more info on that?

reminds me of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPPP#Toxic_impurity

[Anonymous No.5727764]

>>5727647
Why not post a tempeh sandwich?

[Anonymous No.5727766]

>>5727764
Amen!!!

[Anonymous No.5727775]

>>5727718

Where do I find that thing?

[Anonymous No.5727779]

I'm not a vegan because I recognize that Man is at the top of the food chain and that the life of other animals has zero inherent value.

However, I do not condone factory farming or cruelty. I am blessed with having an uncle who owns a ranch and provides fresh eggs, milk, chicken and beef that has lived a natural life - At least, up until the point it gets killed.

[Anonymous No.5727785]

Look at how cruel and heartless tigers are.

[Anonymous No.5727839]

>>5727710
i do not want to get alzheimer's

[Anonymous No.5727849]

>>5727647
because i'm not a faggot and veggies are murder

[IGN: Ataraxia No.5727873]

>>5727647
Not even bothered by it. I got hungry after watching it. Going to make a steak.

[Anonymous No.5727880]

>>5727647
I'm veggie, but vegan takes a lot of effort, and you end up living with vegans, and get segregated from the rest of the society quite a bit. There are not too many vegan places, and or products in the shops.
And I can't be bothered of people saying it's cruel to the animals, I don't fucking care about animals at all, I just don't want to eat dead meat

[Anonymous No.5727901]

>>5727785
Not even a vegetarian, but you are an idiot

[Anonymous No.5727926]

>>5727647
>All this Halal shit
Well, what did they expect?

[Anonymous No.5727960]

>>5727708

Wait wait wait. I refuse to watch anything in a vegan thread, but they seriously equate owning pets with factory farming? That goes past "all vegans are nuts" level and hits "somebody didn't take their meds" level.

[Anonymous No.5727975]

here's some reviews/responses from people who've seen the film.

>it hit this guy hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e07nq7R5jxk

>these guys not so much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cs04xku2NM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4WctP0mMo

[Anonymous No.5727976]

lol fuck off peta shitposters

I'm gonna eat good wholesome meaty burgers today and there isn't a fucking thing you cock sucking shit for brains fish huggers can do about it

[Anonymous No.5727988]

>>5727975
stopped watching after
'hi guyz'

[Anonymous No.5728013]

>>5727975
>mfw the third video is everyone in this thread

[Anonymous No.5728029]

Because meat and dairy taste good.

[Anonymous No.5728031]

>>5728029
cocaine is nice too

[Anonymous No.5728032]

Because omnivore by birth

[Anonymous No.5728034]

>>5728031
Cocaine does not taste nice and it is a garbage drug that barely gets you high.

[Anonymous No.5728038]

>>5728034
meat doesn't taste nice either, but you cook it, dress it up with spice and herb
and from a corpse it becomes a dish

[Anonymous No.5728039]

>>5727785
>what are obligate carnivores

[Anonymous No.5728060]

>>5727714
truly master race:^ )

[Anonymous No.5728065]

>>5727975
>the third video

[Anonymous No.5728093]

>>5727775
Looks like a Port of Subs sandwich with extra meat, but the background makes me think it's somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.5728101]

>>5728038
You do that with most food you fucking retard, are you implying that you only eat your vegetables raw and plain?

[Anonymous No.5728104]

>>5728038
>what is basic cooking

[Anonymous No.5728110]

>>5728101
Are you implying you don't eat 10 lbs. of raw lettuce for dinner?

[Anonymous No.5728114]

>>5728031
And I would not do cocaine because?

[Anonymous No.5728115]

>>5728034
Stop taking shit coke then

[Anonymous No.5728116]

>>5727647
For the same reason vegetarians and vegans seek out meat substitutes and end up with pale imitations and dumb shit.

I like meat, I just have enough balls to admit it and enjoy it instead of engaging in some pointless self-torture so I can feel "noble."

[Anonymous No.5728122]

>>5728116
I've tried some substitutes that have tasted better than the meat counterpart, and some that tasted like processed shit. Have you tried any?

[Anonymous No.5728163]

>>5728101
you do know that heat treatment reduces most of the nutrients in your food.
fat burgermerican

[Anonymous No.5728166]

>>5728116
substitutes are shit, if you are veggie, why would you want to eat something that resembles meat

[Anonymous No.5728175]

>>5728122
I'm a fan of a lot of veggie burgers myself. Especially with a little bacon. Although I'm getting sick of telling people I'm not doing it to be ironic.

[Anonymous No.5728201]

>>5728166
dem guilt-free noms

[Anonymous No.5728208]

>>5728175
at least you keep a healthy ratio of meat and veggies

[Anonymous No.5728210]

>>5728163
Have fun eating fruit and salads for the rest of your life nigger

[Anonymous No.5728211]

>>5728201
wut?

[Anonymous No.5728228]

I don't believe in morality and thus I have no issue slaughtering animals

[Anonymous No.5728237]

>>5728175
So this is how a chicken is cleaned huh?

[Anonymous No.5728238]

>>5728210
you have no idea what a varied vegetarian diet consists of do you? Have fun dying from weight related diseases

[Anonymous No.5728241]

>>5728228
I'm vegetarian but I'd eat newborn babies if I was hungry enough. morals are for people who don't know how to think rationally

[Anonymous No.5728244]

>>5727647
Because most killing is more-or-less the same - and I mean all throughout nature. Do you think a bison with a broken leg that hobbles around on it for 45 minutes before being eaten alive by wolves suffers less than a cow in a slaughterhouse? Do you think that an animal swallowed whole doesn't suffer greatly as it burns and suffocates in another animal's gullet suffers less than a chicken whose head is lopped off in a fraction of a second?

The main reason people throw shit-fits over all of this is because of the industrialization of it - there's no passing that off as anything other than human. And as a human construct we view it through the lens of humanity and we're appalled by it because the spectacle of butchery has largely ceased to be acceptable in the public eye.

[wowsuchverymuch !!x+3WC6cUXIf No.5728250]

I don't eat vegan /anymore/, because:

- No source of biologically active B12, except for supplements.

- No source of creatine, except for supplements.

- Bio-availability of non-heme iron is much lower than heme iron.

- Excess intake of phytic acid (through soy, seeds, nuts), which greatly inhibits mineral uptake, impairing body mineral levels further.

Yep.

[Anonymous No.5728258]

>>5728241

So why are you vegetarian?

Because you believe it is healthy or because you don't like the taste of flesh?

[Anonymous No.5728277]

>>5727647
I try my hardest. Although I went on a trip with friends over the weekend and there weren't always vegan choices on the menu, so now my stomach is all messed up from eating the cheesy vegetarian dishes.

But other than that it feels good being vegan. I've lost like 50 pounds since last December and I don't worry about counting calories anymore. I used to suffer from bulimia and binge eating, but going vegan has really helped repair my relationship with food.

>>5728241
This! People always ask me the stupid "if you were stuck on an island" question. But honestly I would eat another person if I were stuck on an island with nothing else to eat, so that question is kind of stupid.

[Anonymous No.5728307]

>>5728258
I didn't eat meat for a month, and after that it was repulsive, just like decomposing meat is.
it's my choice and I've tried it once in a while but it always gives me an upset stomach now.
and yes I do feel better, wouldn't say healthier because it's relative to what a certain vegetarian eats, but I do feel better.
> No weight gain
> No constipation
> higher energy levels
> Less pungent body odor

[Anonymous No.5728331]

Although I'm not vegan/vegetarian I know people who are and this shit is offensive in how much it ruins the view of their lifestyle.

Choose to avoid eating meat and animal byproducts all you want but don't preach it and compare it to slavery, make a real argument instead of making everyone else who's vegan/vegetarian look like an asshole.

[Anonymous No.5728346]

>Why aren't you vegan yet, /ck/?
Because I'm not mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.5728358]

>>5728331
preaching is always offensive, If you ever want to convert people to be vegetarians, it's simple just make them a meal that's tasty.
It's as offensive to preach vegetarianism to a meat lover as to preach meat eating to a vegetarian.
People tend to be sensitive about the stuff they like putting in their mouths.

[Anonymous No.5728372]

>>5728238
You have no idea how delicious a thick rib eye is, go read poetry about female oppression at a star bucks open mic you pussy

[Anonymous No.5728377]

>mfw the worlds best athletes eat meat
>meat is unhealthy

[Anonymous No.5728381]

>>5728039
Cruel monsters that we should not allow to continue breeding.

[Anonymous No.5728389]

>>5728372
I feel sorry for you if you live in a place where there are feminist vegans reading poetry in Starbucks.
How would you even know about things like that?

All in all 2/3 of the world population is vegetarian
there is a wide variety of dishes out there, some of which you might actually like.

I didn't mean to offend you though, people eat what they like, but thinking that every vegetarian must be a fucking feminist cunt is unjust and uncalled for

[Anonymous No.5728395]

>>5727744
My shits take about 2 minutes. Usually 3 times a day. Don't eat meat with every meal though. That's just unhealthy

[Anonymous No.5728407]

>>5728346
Explain why veganism = mental illness.

Spare the appeal to nature, speceisism, strawman, etc.

[Anonymous No.5728419]

>>5728377

[Anonymous No.5728431]

>>5728395
don't know why we're talking shits now but my shits take 30s to 1min tops
I don't eat meat

[Anonymous No.5728442]

>>5727647
pic related.

[Anonymous No.5728444]

Every time when a vegan looks at my steak and says: "Did you know a cow died so you could enjoy that meal", I respond: "Yes, and do you know why he died. Because you ate all hes food."

[Anonymous No.5728449]

>>5728431
Really? That's fast. I started eating a lot more veges lately and it's lowered my shit time by at least 2 minutes. It's nice. Clean eliminations too. Hardly any wiping needed

[Anonymous No.5728453]

>>5728431
my shits take that same little amount of time, and I do eat meat.

[Anonymous No.5728471]

>>5728449
agreed, yeah that fast, mainly due to fresh vegetable juices
>>5728453
well done for fibre

[Anonymous No.5728473]

>using scare tactics to make people live your way

fucking vegans

[Anonymous No.5728481]

>>5728473

The fact that you consider them "scare tactics" means you agree that it's horrible

[Anonymous No.5728487]

>>5728407
IMO, based on what I've read and observed, vegans are more likely to have mental illnesses, which could be exacerbated by dietary deficiencies, making them more obvious. Here's a link to an article that explains this in greater detail, so you can read for yourself,
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201211/youre-vegetarian-have-you-lost-your-mind
And the study that's referenced in the article:
http://www.ijbnpa.org/content/9/1/67/abstract

[Anonymous No.5728488]

The simple answer is, people are selfish. Whether it's animals or even fellow humans being harmed, people will find ways to justify their behavior to themselves.

[Anonymous No.5728510]

>>5728487
>http://www.ijbnpa.org/content/9/1/67/abstract
In Western cultures vegetarian diet is associated with an elevated risk of mental disorders. However, there was no evidence for a causal role of vegetarian diet in the etiology of mental disorders.

>look at the difference between the samples, it's laughable.
>have you seen the correlation of 'western meat eating diet' and coronary disease, diabetes, cancer and all other bull shit.
I'd much rather be crazy and live longer, besides you can always take supplements if you are deficient

[Anonymous No.5728512]

>>5728487

All you have to read is a mention of Weston A. Price to know the article has some bias to it. When you look at the actual study, it says

>"there was no evidence for a causal role of vegetarian diet in the etiology of mental disorders. "

Meaning it's more likely that people with depression become vegetarian, not that vegetarianism causes depression or other things. Technically, at the time they developed their problem, they were eating meat. Intelligence is often correlated with depression as well.

Here's a long-term study on a stable, older population

http://www.nutritionj.com/content/9/1/26

>Vegetarians (VEG:n = 60) reported significantly less negative emotion than omnivores

[Anonymous No.5728513]

>>5728488
wtf is that horrible image? I can't even force myself to read it.
>that font from hell

[Anonymous No.5728532]

>>5728510
Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired, but it's a good jumping off point for discussing your need to justify your choices to the point of completely disregarding the studies and opinions of experts in the field.
>I'd rather be crazy and live longer, besides you can always take supplements if you are deficient
Yeah, but other people would rather you not live longer if you are going to act like a crazy fuck. See, you're statement right there is selfish and mentally ill thinking. Not to mention that most people don't automatically know they are deficient certain much needed minerals, aminos, vitamins, etc unless tested by a doctor, and therefore could be running around acting like crazy fuckers for years and years with no end in sight.

[Anonymous No.5728538]

>>5728512
>Meaning it's more likely that people with depression become vegetarian, not that vegetarianism causes depression or other things
And....? That still means that vegans and vegetarians are more likely to be mentally ill. I never said veganism causes mental illness, although it can expressly exacerbate it.

[Anonymous No.5728564]

>>5728538

>And....?

Meaning that if diet was a factor, it was meat that caused the problem. It's like saying people who don't smoke are more likely to have lung cancer, because the non-smoker group in your study is made up of people who were diagnosed with lung cancer and then quit smoking. This is a flaw of study design.

[Anonymous No.5728576]

>>5728532
ha ha
we'll I for one know I'm crazy but I think self preservation is an instinct rather than a selfish crazy behavior.

I you have chronic illnesses that's an indicator you're not getting enough of something.
If you're healthy and happy - you probably have a good diet.

>>5728512
this guy gets it

[Anonymous No.5728586]

hey, >>5728564
can you believe this guy >>5728538, he believes every study without even going through the way it was set up. he must be watching a lot of tv to be that gullable

[Anonymous No.5728600]

>>5728586

People are just over-eager to find any evidence that vegetarianism/veganism is bad and that eating the food they like is good. They'll wade through all the "low-fat vegetarian diet cures heart disease" and "vegans showed lower risk of all forms of cancer" until they find any weak study to challenge the consensus about meatless diets being healthy and even preferred.

As one doctor puts it, "people like to be told good things about their bad habits"

[Anonymous No.5728606]

ITT

>why don't people eat the way I want to eat? why am I better than everyone else?

If you try to push your pretentious beliefs onto others you're on the same level as Jehovah's witnesses, abortion activists and dumb niggers.

[Anonymous No.5728617]

>>5728600
I liked the china study.
But on the other side you have holy third reich vegans who see eating meat as blasphemy and inferior, which in itself is a mental disorder

[Anonymous No.5728647]

>>5728606
nice pic

[Anonymous No.5729055]

>>5728488

The reason I eat meat is that I enjoy the taste of it.

Whoa, that was tough!

[Anonymous No.5729106]

>>5727647
Factory farming sucks, but meat is delicious. Also free range is too expensive, so fuck it I'll just contribute to the large scale abuse of animals.

[Anonymous No.5729117]

>>5729106
>so fuck it I'll just contribute to the large scale abuse of animals.
The compromise I worked out was to just eat the stuff once in a while. Figured if you're not going to choose to do no harm you can choose to do less.

[Anonymous No.5729122]

Whats with all the vegans coming out of the woodwork lately?

[Anonymous No.5729134]

>>5729117
that's why i only rape children in taiwan ever few years. c'est la vie i guess

[Anonymous No.5729146]

>>5729134
moderation is the key

[Anonymous No.5729152]

I tried being a vegan but I started feeling weak and tired when I was on my ass-period.

[Anonymous No.5729176]

I've tried cutting down on meat. If I could afford it, I would be majority-wise pescatarian. I like fish...a lot.

[Anonymous No.5729179]

Because I like meat and dairy
Because I occasionally like to have meat
Because I don't care about your hippy bullshit about ethical treatment, I just raise my own meat
I don't want to be a special snowflake who needs his own special dinner when I go out with friends.
I like the taste of meat
I'm super healthy on my current diet and feel great

[Anonymous No.5729188]

>>5728606

what shitty idea of an ad, i'd feel raped frankly

[Anonymous No.5729258]

>>5727647
I want to eat meat, and also go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.5729259]

>>5728564
You seriously can't be this fucking stupid. Holy fuck. Please don't breed.

[Anonymous No.5729264]

>>5728576
>I you have chronic illnesses that's an indicator you're not getting enough of something.
Yes, like mental illness.
>still believing mental illnesses aren't physical

[Anonymous No.5729267]

>>5728586
With all this bait, the fishing better be good.

[Anonymous No.5729293]

>>5728250
science pls stop u hurt muh feels

[Anonymous No.5729312]

>>5727710
>Inconclusive studies
>"MEAT WILL GIVE YOU ALZHEIMER'S!!!!!!!"

Are veggies really this retarded?

[Anonymous No.5729389]

>>5728600
this shit is cute, because it lumps all meat eaters into one category, and all vegans into one category. People are over eager to find fault in any other group that isn't their own, and are less likely to attribute crazy stupid or ill informed behavior or opinions to their own in group. for example. surrounded by black people? "fucking crazy black people!" women yelling and being annoying? "fucking feminists!" That gay white guy next to you that doesn't shower? you bet your ass if you share his skin color but not his sexuality the first thing on your automatic hit list will be what he likes to fuck.

And the hilarious thing is this is a human trait that works in every direction. and you dumbfucks wonder why you can't convince anyone of anything. It's because you, and by extention, humanity, are a bunch of generalizing assholes who will not take the time to deal with groups on an individual basis and prefer to make sweeping judgments for their peace of mind.

[Anonymous No.5729408]

>>5727647
because i'm not a fuckin retard

[Anonymous No.5729438]

>>5729389
What are you a rational, self sufficient normal person?
> must be bait

[Anonymous No.5729447]

because /ck/ is fat, lazy, lacks will power, uneducated, ignorant, and possibly diabetic.

[Anonymous No.5729546]

>>5729447
See>>5729389, and STFU.

[Anonymous No.5729644]

>>5729389
10/10 post

[Anonymous No.5729664]

>>5729546
prove your not a fatass. have you ever seen a fat vegan? no? ha thats weird now come up from the basement I'm done fucking your whore mom and she made you some fish sticks you autistic man dependent.

[Anonymous No.5729685]

>>5727661

Yeah because in nature there is no murder and animals live very comfortable lives.

[Anonymous No.5729694]

>>5727647

People trying to covert me into having a mentality makes me hate the cause they are pushing to convert, fuck you peta faggots.

Fuck you human hating sacks of shit.

I am going to go eat a double burger right now, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.5729713]

>>5729664
>Being this fucking retarded
Yes, I've seen plenty of fat vegans. Being vegan doesn't mean your're healthy. For example, the "Rad Fat Vegan" on youtube, to who I would link a video if she hadn't taken them all down already. (Her channel is still there, however) I've also seen fat vegans in my daily life as well, at my office, and in grocery stores, talking loudly about being vegan, because that's what you faggots do.
You could be the poster child for vegan idiocy and mental illness. Now STFU and go ram some more tofurky up your yeasty vagina, you syphilitic whore.

[Anonymous No.5729729]

>>5727647
I was vegetarian for about 5 years. It was pretty easy and I liked it, but it's nice having more food choices now, and I feel healthier eating meat a few times a week than I ever did as a vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.5729742]

>>5729713
why don't you suck on some hot dogs and put chicken nuggies up your ass. id say kill yourself but you're already doing that with your diet. get cancer faggot.

[Anonymous No.5729748]

>>5728444
You are a special kind of dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.5729755]

>>5727647
Bacon is delicious

[Anonymous No.5729772]

>>5729664
>have you ever seen a fat vegan?

Uhh yes.

[Anonymous No.5729801]

if i don't eat meat then the cows and chicken would overpopulate and kill our children i eat OP so that man may live

[Anonymous No.5729826]

>>5729742
>implying all omnivores eat hotdogs and chicken nuggets

This is why people think you're mentally ill, short bus.

[Anonymous No.5729833]

>This thread
We /v/ now?

[Anonymous No.5729861]

>>5727647
Because I don't think it's cruel to slaughter animals for food, but I do feel that modern factory farming is fucking terrible and that (especially Americans) eat too much meat.

So I eat less, and I try to target sustainable food sources/cuts that many people ignore. Use the whole buffalo, and all.

[Anonymous No.5729870]

>>5728038
Raw horse is actually pretty ducking good on its own, but it positively sings with a little garlic.

[Anonymous No.5729874]

>>5728442
Why didn't you rest it longer, you shitcunt!

[Anonymous No.5729901]

>>5729664
>have you ever seen a fat vegan?

yeah, in fact plenty of them

soda, candy, cakes and nutella sandwiches are not exactly low calory

[Anonymous No.5729912]

>>5727647
Because as someone who is obtaining a MSN degree and just about finished, I have learned how important a well balanced diet is. That includes meat. Believe what you will, humans are omnivores and require various vitamins and what not from many sources. All things in moderation.

[Anonymous No.5729917]

>>5729664

[Anonymous No.5729923]

Thanks that movie put me to sleep

[Anonymous No.5729947]

>>5727661
meat=murder
we are made of meat
therefore, we are made of murder.

....HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.5729974]

>>5729901
nutella isn't vegan

[Anonymous No.5730028]

>>5729974

> contains 5% milk

lol

PB&J sandwiches, then

[Anonymous No.5730066]

>>5729664
I know you're a troll, but I've known a number of fat vegans, you know why? Carbs nigga, that's the fucking lifeblood of the vast majority of vegans.

[Anonymous No.5730135]

>>5729874
it rested while I made the sauce which was about 10 minutes. How long should I rest it for?

[Anonymous No.5730151]

>>5729947
mind blown

[Anonymous No.5730166]

>>5727647
Because I enjoy meat and meat products. Why do you care?