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Anonymous Tue Jul 8 07:57:50 2014 No.5584322 [DELETED]

>that one guy who says eating healthy is cheaper than eating like crap

Does this blatantly false shit piss anyone else off?

>inb4 rice and beans

I'm not talking about useless filler calories. I'm talking about micronutrients and actual health foods. Stuff like broccoli, kale, other leafy greens, berries, bell peppers, almonds/walnuts, salmon. All expensive as fuck and most offer negligible calories.

>Kale and kale are $2 a pound where I live and give virtually no calories.
>Wildcaught salmon is $15 a pound, ~600 cals
>Bell peppers $1 each and give 50-100 calories
>Carrots are $1 a pound, ~200 calories
>Most berries $3 a pint for a few hundred calories
>Almonds/walnuts $7 for a pound, ~1.5k calories, actually a pretty decent deal

I don't get this delusion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:07:56 2014 No.5584333 >i'm a big dumb idiot who thinks trendy fad-diets are the same thing as eating healthy go chomp down some more activated almonds, fatty.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:10:28 2014 No.5584337

>>5584322
Eating superfoods like kale isn't all there is to eating healthy. I eat healthy and spend about 20 bucks a week, which I don't think it bad at all.

But if you're going to complain about prices, try growing your own stuff. I grow my own kale, and a few herbs, and it's almost impossible to fuck up. Save for my cilantro. Fuck that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:12:04 2014 No.5584341 I don't get it, are you saying carrots are and bell peppers are expensive? Also pretty sure you can be healthy without regularly eating berries and salmon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:26:22 2014 No.5584356 File: 50 KB, 450x373, fullretard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5584322 >Carrots are $1 a pound. >Expensive. >MFW

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:36:03 2014 No.5584365

You seem to be judging food worth by calories, not nutrients.
First buy things that last a while. Protein powder for example (I just get it plain). Its filling, 2 tbs of it is about 100 cal and gives you a solid 1/4 of your minimum dietary needs for the day. The powder I get is about $18-20 for 400g and is filling. It may sound like a lot but you're not downing the whole container are you?

Kilo or whatever measurement of bananas. Stick all this on chronometer.com and you'll see how fulfilling my list will be. BTW $2 for kale is great. Just one cup of it gives 900% your Vit K intake.

Ground flax seed. 1-2 tbps of it is 100-300% your Omega 3 intake for the day. 100 calories for just one little mouthful of food. Thats just my samplw. Feel free to ask me for other high nutrient/caloric/cheap foods for your day. Youre welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:37:26 2014 No.5584368 >>5584322 >that one guy who says eating healthy is cheaper than eating like crap It is. Stop trying to justify being fat you disgusting slob.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:43:37 2014 No.5584371

>>5584365
Oh yeh
DONt for the love of God eat a cup of kale every day or your kidneys will die. 900% of Vitamin K daily is dangerous as its not water soluble or some shit. But you'll see your "expensive" kale will spread you far. Same goes with spinach actually, the K in that is nuts.
Shame you pay a dollar a pound of carrots. We get ours $1 per kilo. Damn that Vit A.

Don't forget dried fruit. Dried apricots are pretty choc on Copper. Only deal is all the sugar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:50:24 2014 No.5584379 Can you tell us the cheap shitty food you think costs less? Let's have an actual discussion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:56:27 2014 No.5584386 I have a sneaking suspicion that OP is a bear. Any way, >implying staples are not nutritious >useless filler calories >micronutrients >actual health foods

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:56:31 2014 No.5584387 File: 86 KB, 800x600, totinos_pepperoni_party_pizza_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5584379 >800 calories >$1

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:58:28 2014 No.5584388 >>5584387 >Useless filler calories in rice and beans >Posts this colon bomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:59:45 2014 No.5584389 >>5584388 >enriched wheat flower doesn't give you all the micros you need

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:01:33 2014 No.5584394 >>5584389 Along with enough salt, fat and chemicals to stop your heart before you're 30. Besides, the per meal cost of buying actual food and cooking it yourself is always lower than buying pre-made garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:03:12 2014 No.5584397 >>5584389 Except it doesn't. That shit is akin to taking a multivitamin. Most of it isn't absorbed and is pissed out because it isn't natural.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:05:18 2014 No.5584400 >>5584394 Even if you counted buying in bulk and making multiple servings at once, I think you'd be very hard-pressed to get the cost of a home-made pizza under $1.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:06:23 2014 No.5584403

Who spends less on food? The poor hamplanets who take their families to McDonalds every night and buy frozen pre-made crap? Or the poor family that shops at immigrant markets and makes giant amounts of home cooked food for next to nothing using off cuts and cheap staples?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:07:53 2014 No.5584404

>>5584365
Hi, I'm a single guy on a budget. I make around $1700-$2200 a month depending on overtime which is scarce right now. My bills are around $1100 a month but I really should start saving for bigger things like a house, marriage one day and yada yada yada.

What is your normal grocery list? Just asking because I need to start eating healthier and like OP said.. it is a bit pricier buying quality produce and such, well from my experience.. I mean I bought one onion for fajitas and it was a dollar. Guess im shopping at the wrong place but yeah.. Whats your usual weekly grocery list like if you dont mind?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:11:23 2014 No.5584408 >>5584322 >calories >relevant ok now go buy a fucking book for 5$ and finally get some education

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:15:53 2014 No.5584413

>>5584404
I look for whatever meat is on sale in flyers, and then build a menu around that. It's a bit costly and a pain in the ass to build a good pantry (oil, spices, sauces), but once you do you're really just buying meat, bread and fruit and veg.
After I started doing this I dropped 50 bucks off my weekly groceries easy, you just have to use leftovers smartly and make the same ingredients into different meals so you don't waste shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:27:30 2014 No.5584433 >>5584413 >oil >expensive >pretend to manage food >have leftovers, ever ok you moved out last week or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:30:18 2014 No.5584438 >>5584433 >cooking for every meal instead of cooking in bulk it's your time to waste, I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:35:24 2014 No.5584446 >watch an episode of The Middle >everything in the house is falling apart >can't afford any repairs >nigger rigging everything >fast food dinners every day It's like they're making fun of those people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:43:04 2014 No.5584456 >>5584433 >you moved out last week or something? sounds like you did. cooking one dish that will last for multiple meals is generally much cheaper than cooking a different dish for each meal.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:49:37 2014 No.5584465

I think it partially depends on the amount of people you're feeding, if it's just me, the price of buying ingredients and cooking all week is about the same as eating out, but buying in bulk for say, three or four people, is where you start to notice a difference in price. My fiance and I spent a few weeks eating takeaway and were easily spending $140+ a week just on dinner, this week's entire groceries for the both of us came to about $100.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:55:50 2014 No.5584472 >>5584456 >is generally much cheaper than cooking a different dish for each meal. unless you pay someone to cook, it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:56:35 2014 No.5584473 >>5584438 it's a better use of time than many things I see people doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:58:30 2014 No.5584477 >>5584472 how far out of your ass are you pulling this logic? because my grocery store receipts tell me that it makes no sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:04:27 2014 No.5584496 >>5584472 Big packages are cheaper, that's why it's cheaper to buy a lot of a certain thing once and make it into several meals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:08:29 2014 No.5584501 >>5584496 not even just that, but buying the much larger variety of ingredients required for making multiple unique dishes adds up quickly, especially when you're cooking for one, as you're buying more than you need of an ingredient for one meal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:10:56 2014 No.5584505 >>5584477 >because my grocery store receipts tell me that it makes no sense. sounds like you're making some bad purchase decisions. do you mind posting an example of what your receipts are showing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:11:58 2014 No.5584509 >>5584501 >ingredients required for making multiple unique dishes adds up quickly It's also temporary. Once you have a basic assortment of things on hand then you're no longer having to buy things every time you need to make that dish.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:14:16 2014 No.5584514

>>5584337

I hate it when people recommend growing your own stuff. You're put in an impossible catch 22 situation, you either let all your crops get ravaged by pests and animals or you use pesticides which defeat the whole purpose.

And in the event that your food is magically intact and free of pesticides it'll almost always be plastered with bird shit, the only solution to which is bathing everything in vinegar.

So yeah, don't consider growing your own stuff unless you have a fully set up greenhouse, or just stick to pot plants for herbs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:14:23 2014 No.5584515 >>5584509 that goes for more than staple ingredients. >>5584505 >sounds like you're making some bad purchase decisions. i've done my own research, i'm not doubting the truth in my statement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:15:44 2014 No.5584518 >>5584515 and thinking about this further, your logic makes no fucking sense. making something in bulk is exactly the same as making a dish 2,3,4 times, which you claim to be cheaper than making it in bulk.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:17:54 2014 No.5584520

>>5584515
>i've done my own research, i'm not doubting the truth in my statement.

I am not doubting your math skills, I'm doubting your choice of ingredients and/or what you are choosing to do with them.

to repeat myself:
do you mind posting an example of the excessive costs you're describing?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:19:52 2014 No.5584526

>>5584322
>>that one guy who says eating healthy is cheaper than eating like crap
>Does this blatantly false shit piss anyone else off?
It's true. The lies abound. Also, when talking to one of these jokers, when the subject of their spending $15/week on groceries comes up, there will be chunk they omit, like half of their food comes from mama, or they eat out on someone else's credit card (in their family), receive gifts, or don't consider wal-mart a grocery. It'll always be some incomplete picture of their costs like they are simply THAT smart, and everyone else should be doing $15.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:20:08 2014 No.5584528

>>5584514
>I hate it when people recommend growing your own stuff. You're put in an impossible catch 22 situation, you either let all your crops get ravaged by pests and animals or you use pesticides which defeat the whole purpose.

No, the purpose is to save money.

If you are paranoid about pesticides you can use safe ones of your own choosing.

>animals
fence

though in my opinion, unless you happen to enjoy gardening for its own sake, the amount of time and effort you have to spend on it far outweighs the financial benefits.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:20:56 2014 No.5584529

>>5584520
>choice of ingredients
what does this have to do with the amount of food being prepared?

>what you are choosing to do with them
same question

>posting an example
i have an exam, maybe when i get back around 1PM EST, but i doubt this thread will still be active/at this stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:20:57 2014 No.5584530 >>5584337 >Eating superfoods like kale isn't all there is to eating healthy. I eat healthy and spend about 20 bucks a week, which I don't think it bad at all. Another liar and/or ignoramus.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:22:50 2014 No.5584532

>>5584518
>making something in bulk is exactly the same as making a dish 2,3,4 times,

Nope. When you're making it in bulk you only spend the cooking and prep time once, whereas you repeat that for multiple uses.

Also if your ingredients are perishable making a large batch at once uses up more if them before they might go bad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:27:53 2014 No.5584545

>>5584529

Correct me if I am mistaken, but your claim seems to be that preparing food for yourself is not cost effective, as proven by your reciepts.

I disagree and think that the only way this is possible is if you are making poor purchasing and/or poor cooking decisions. Either that or I am misunderstanding your point entirely.

I'm asking for details to cut the bullshit and get to the hard facts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:33:06 2014 No.5584555 >>5584545 Yeah not my point at all. My point is basically that less variety is cheaper than more variety when preparing for yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:35:09 2014 No.5584558 >>5584532 This agrees with my overall point. I was trying to demonstrate that, at the least, cooking is as cost effective, If not moreso

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:36:30 2014 No.5584561 >>5584555 Ah, OK, I did indeed misunderstand you. In the short term I agree 100%. In the long term it makes no difference, assuming that you use all your ingredients before they go bad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 10:42:06 2014 No.5584569

>>5584322
>Claims eating like shit is cheaper than healthy eating

Lists 29 dollars worth of healthy ingredients that would lead to healthy eating for a week of you added a loaf of bread (3 bucks), a pound of pasta (a buck), and a pound of rice (a buck).

Good luck eating at mcdonalds for 34 bucks for a whole week.

Best of luck warding off heart attacks (60,000 bucks) by only eating crap.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:04:02 2014 No.5584620

I don't understand how broke asses come here wondering what to buy at the grocery. I'm also tired of hearing the rice and beans shit.

Ethnic groceries (mexican, asian) have cheap produce: ~60c/lbs for tomatoes, green onions are like 33c, onions are less than 50c a lbs at the beaner market here... Bokchoy is always on sale at asian markets as well for ~1.50. Miso base is great, considering its only about 5-6 bucks for 50+ servings of miso soup. Toss bokchoy, green onions, and tofu in it. Less than a dollar per serving.

Here in Colorado, Sprouts has a p. decent sale on fruits/produce weekly. Blue berries, cherries, blackberries, nectarines, peaches have been on sale for 99c here and there. Carrots, bell peppers, cucumbers are always less than a dollar.

I can easily buy ~$25 worth of food at sprouts to last a week and a half for two people. I also utilize a 10% off entire purchase coupon from a survey I receive on the Sprout's receipt. It saves me about $2 on my entire purchase.

Are people that retarded to not look up weekly ads ONLINE? What about digital or in-store coupons? The sales are every Wednesday here.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:12:58 2014 No.5584642

>>5584620
If you are on a budget and this is the last page you visit before your WiFi is cut, save this post.

In this one post is all the information you need to eat healthy on a budget. This dude has just saved you from malnutrition. Im fucking serious. It took me years to learn this the hard way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:14:02 2014 No.5584644 >>5584322 Irrelevant to your main point, but walnuts aren't healthy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:19:48 2014 No.5584652 Stop worrying about calories unless youre obese

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:32:51 2014 No.5584677

>>5584620
This shit varies regionally. Good luck finding those ingredients for a reasonable price in Finland. Not even potatoes are less than a euro a kilo in here. They're at their cheapest in summer and I just bought some for 1,20 a kilo. Nearly all of the items you mentioned are mostly more than 2 euro a kilo. Bell peppers are nearly always more than 3 euro. Nectarines and peaches are sometimes on sale for a reasonable price, but usually hang around 2,50-3 euro. Blueberries and cherries are expensive, although if you have a car, you can just go and pick wild blueberries in the woods. You wouldn't believe how much a tomato can cost in winter.

Where I come from, the cheap stuff really is pre-cooked, processed or low-quality food. And by low-quality, I mean the really nasty stuff that it barely tastes edible at times. Making the same really basic food items from scratch often ends up being more expensive than buying some shit-tier aluminium box of liver casserole. And I fucking love liver casserole.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:33:46 2014 No.5584679

If it is available in your area the absolute cheapest way to get fresh nutritious produce is to join a farmers CSA. Our's costs us about $6 a week for so much fresh food the two of us literally have to split it with my stepdaughter and her boyfriend. You do a seasonal commitment, which amounts to 26 weeks. You are guaranteed fresh food for half a year. Many usually have a line on local ranchers/butchers where you can get bulk meat a prices far below even the cheapest butcher; all you need is an ability and willingness to do some of the cutting up yourself, and a place to freeze it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:36:20 2014 No.5584684 File: 278 KB, 1280x853, rape.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vegetable oils are 2-3 cents per 1,000 kcal. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:37:02 2014 No.5584685 >>5584620 fu! beans and rice are healthy!

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:41:00 2014 No.5584693

>>5584677

Of course not all foods will be the same price in all areas, but surely there is something inexpensive and local that you can buy?

Also, the prices you are describing aren't that far off. A kilo is 2.2 lbs so the prices aren't too different:

potatoes at 1.2 euro/kilo = $1.63/kilo = $0.74/lb.
your "expensive" produce at 3 euro/kilo is $1.85 per lb. That's not that far off from what OP listed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:50:45 2014 No.5584705 >>5584561 It has more to do about buying things in bulk, a 5kg sack of potatoes is generally cheaper than buying one or two of them. Same goes for a 1-2kg chunk of meat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:51:07 2014 No.5584706 >>5584356 Carrots are about $0.50 per pound in England. Potatoes, $0.40 and flour $0.25. The OP does seem kind of expensive.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 11:55:29 2014 No.5584709

>>5584693
True enough. I always forget to take into account that they use pounds... Man. Still, costs like that really pile up when you're a part of the lowest income class. I barely ever eat salad alongside meals because of how expensive it is. My diet primarily consists of bananas, oranges, carrots, starch in the form of pasta, potatoes and bread whose price is 2,50-4,50 euro a kilo, a ground mix of beef and pork, chicken legs when they're on sale, cucumber, tomatoes (Finnish in summer and imported ones when they're unusually cheap in winter), cold cuts and cheese (6-8 euro a kilo, maybe 5 if on sale). I gotta admit that bread is rather expensive and I eat quite a bit of it. Thing is, I can only afford to eat one hot meal a day and have to make up for it somehow. Eating bread is cheaper than buying more protein.

>Of course not all foods will be the same price in all areas, but surely there is something inexpensive and local that you can buy?
Yep. Potatoes. But only in summer. I don't get to eat a whole lot of veg in winter for obvious reasons. You gotta understand that I even consider the canned kidney beans in red beans and rice a luxury. I barely ever use more than three ingredients in a meal, ignoring seasoning.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:00:49 2014 No.5584719

>>5584709
P.S. Finland pays the E.U. more for agricultural subsidies than it gets. This has its own effects on our food production and the price of food.

I forgot to add milk, onions, coffee and cream. Milk is pretty cheap in Finland, though. It's also something that's historically been produced up north.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:06:07 2014 No.5584735 >>5584706 Dat feel when I'm coming to England for the winter. I might not starve after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:10:18 2014 No.5584743 >>5584400 Can't be too difficult. The ingredients for pizza are ridiculously cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:10:59 2014 No.5584745 >>5584743 the cheese is not cheap, unless you're OK with buying shit cheese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:12:22 2014 No.5584749 >>5584745 You just get a cheap wedge of cheese and grate some off. Dude, we're comparing 1$ frozen pizza to homemade here, no matter what kind of cheese you're buying it will be better than the "cheese" on the pizza.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:12:43 2014 No.5584751 >>5584341 >pretty sure you can be healthy without regularly eating berries and salmon. maybe OP is a bear...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:13:13 2014 No.5584753 >>5584749 >You just get a cheap wedge of cheese and grate some off. No, I buy fresh mozzarella. >Dude, we're comparing 1$ frozen pizza to homemade here, OK, fair enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:16:57 2014 No.5584756 >>5584753 A ball of mozzarella is 44p where I am.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:20:28 2014 No.5584758 >>5584756 Real stuff or cow's milk? But yeah, for cheap you can't beat that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 12:43:53 2014 No.5584802 File: 27 KB, 400x400, 1402979737838.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5584322 >beans >useless filler calories

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:00:14 2014 No.5584991
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>>5584371

>Although allergic reaction from supplementation is possible, no known toxicity is associated with high doses of the phylloquinone (vitamin K1) or menaquinone (vitamin K2) forms of vitamin K, so no tolerable upper intake level (UL) has been set.[74]

Anyway OP, beans and whole grains are the cheapest/healthiest calorie sources on the planet. They aren't "useless filler calories." For vegetables, kale, sweet potatoes, and frozen vegetables like broccoli and brussel sprouts are very cheap and healthy. Fruit will vary depending on where you are and what time of year it is, but bananas are cheap everywhere and all the time. You don't need to eat the fanciest, most expensive foods to have good health. Berries and walnuts are nice, but you'll do fine with kale and sweet potatoes. Hell, if you buy your beans and grains in bulk you'll save a lot of money and you may be able to eat more expensive foods with more regulairty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:05:47 2014 No.5585014 >>5584333 eating healthy is still more expensive than eating like shit and I eat healthy, but yea as far as calories per dollar it's not efficient

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:18:20 2014 No.5585067

>>5584322

You're an idiot and, hopefully, a troll.

As with anything else, being a smart and selective shopper is where you'll save money. Sure, if you only consider the most expensive items you can find in your area, eating healthily is expensive as fuck. If you aren't a total spendthrift prick, then you can find good deals almost everywhere in the United States.

Also, see just about everyone else's posts to be educated on the nutritional value of rice and beans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:20:15 2014 No.5585073 >>5585067 From a caloric standpoint it's still more expensive than eating "unhealthy" foods, even if you are frugal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:24:08 2014 No.5585082 >>5584530 Not that guy but if you buy in bulk, then while the initial spending will be more, it will even out to you spending not much per week on food if you really want to eat decently on a budget.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:24:51 2014 No.5585084 >>5585073 >calories are the only things that matter in a diet Nutrition-wise, eating healthy is the better option, because buck for buck, you're getting more actual nutrition per bite, rather than just "muh calories!"

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:27:28 2014 No.5585089

>>5585073

My monthly grocery is $80-120 for two people, depending on sales and any bulk items we may be out of. This is much lower than single friends in my area who don't regularly purchase fresh fruits and vegetables, though I wouldn't necessarily say they eat junk food.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:27:37 2014 No.5585090

>>5585014

Depends on what you compare. Obviously you're not going to hit your caloric needs with vegetables, but you can get a pound of black beans for 2 bucks, and that's a bit over 1600 calories. You can double the value if you buy it in bulk. I just ordered a 25-pound bag of barley for $30, which comes to about 61 dry cups (61 meals) of 650 calories each, for a total of 40,000 calories for the whole bag. That's 2 months worth of dinner for 50 cents a day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:28:15 2014 No.5585091 >>5585073 Eating shitty empty calories will cost you in the long term with medical issues from prolonged malnutrition due to various deficiencies of nutritional needs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:33:07 2014 No.5585106 File: 251 KB, 893x549, barley.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5585090 And that's fancy organic barley from a relatively small company too, with shipping charges included. You could find even lower prices elsewhere.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:41:23 2014 No.5585124

I tried it out this week. Live in Canada, if that's of any importance.

Warehouse pack chicken breast. $20 on the nose for 11 breasts. Good for 3 grilling sessions, and each one session yields food for 2 meals - so 6 GENEROUS servings or protein for that $20. Mix up the marinades so it doesn't get too boring.

Bag of mushrooms for $3. Grill some up for a little extra taste and munching.

Box of Quinoa for $3.50, which yields enough for 4 or 5 servings. Also picked up some can of chicken broth for $0.79 to cook it in so it doesn't taste like ass.

Bag of 3 bell peppers - on sale for $1. Great for salads and grilling too.

Small bag of Radishes for $2 - just great on their own, or toss with the peppers for extra yums.

2 Melons from the Russian store for about $1.25 apiece. Sweet as fuck and a great treat.

no milk because I'm not a faggot

5 organic food bars for $1.50 apiece because I am a faggot

All in total that's about $43 for one week of food. Maybe closer to 50 because I bought some shit to eat on sunday.

So, this is enough to eat comfortably for about $200. Even if I were to buy a case of beer, that's only about 30 bucks and lasts for a month.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:42:15 2014 No.5585127

Considering that there isn't just one healthy (or unhealthy, for that matter) diet plan, OP's post is meaningless.

If you require a high fat, high caloric intake or maybe suffer from some metabolic disease or any number of variables, including geographical location, your healthiest diet options might cost more or less than that which will, essentially, harm you.

That being said, generally recognized "healthy" options are universally cheaper than "junk foods" when you take into account medical factors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:42:17 2014 No.5585129 Fruits and vegetables may be more expensive than living of dollar burgers and little debbies, but that difference is probably worth not being a fat ill sack of grease.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:44:44 2014 No.5585136 >>5585124 I don't think that's what OP's looking for though, that's just a bunch of chicken and then a small handful of mildly healthy foods.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:09:02 2014 No.5585222

>>5584644
Walnuts are fairly healthy if you're not eating meat, but you can't eat more than a few hundred grams a week without making your urine burn you.

>>5584322
>>Most berries $3 a pint for a few hundred calories

Because they don't keep and they don't travel well. If you want cheap berries, buy a couple of plants and grow them - you'll be making a profit by the end of the second year.

>but that's not money in my pocket now!

Fucking Republicunts, man, I don't even know what you fuckers want any more.

>>Bell peppers $1 each and give 50-100 calories

Hahahahahaha, aAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

No they aren't, idiot. Fuck, you could've had a plant for that much in April and gotten half a dozen already, and unlike your berries it'd even grow in your living room.

I bet you buy chillies too, you fucking shoggoth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:22:43 2014 No.5585270 >>5584644 http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=99

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:28:05 2014 No.5585290 >>5585222 >but you can't eat more than a few hundred grams a week without making your urine burn you. Whuat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:30:06 2014 No.5585297 Healthy is objective. You fuck head try eating meat if you want some nutrition and calories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:35:22 2014 No.5585315 File: 117 KB, 949x298, myotherpro-tolerance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5585124 >case of beer >lasts an entire month

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:49:13 2014 No.5585366 >>5585297 But meat isn't healthy and it's relatively expensive

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:50:14 2014 No.5585369 >>5585290 I ain't finding anything, so looks like they are full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:53:29 2014 No.5585379 >>5585366 found the vegan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:54:12 2014 No.5585382 >>5585379 Or doctor

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:54:54 2014 No.5585385 >>5585382 sure you are

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 15:59:57 2014 No.5585398 >>5585385 Its what my doctor told me... So that does make sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:01:02 2014 No.5585402 >>5585398 great anecdotal evidence

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:02:43 2014 No.5585409 >>5585402 And you have better? You're on an anonymous board making claims about anonymous people no one knows.... >anecdotal Fucking hilarious.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:03:41 2014 No.5585413

>>5584404
Hey man
Yeah an onion for a dollar is insane. Onions are supposed to be cheap shit which keep for months and months though, buy a huge ass bag & keep it in a cool dark dry place. Needs to be dark most the time. Same goes with potatoes. By one of those big netted bags (like 5kg or something. Thats 10 pounds right?) For about $7-8. So you think now, that's not just one weeks worth of onions that $7 pays.
But yeah my grocery list depends considering the fact I buy bulk of long lasting things (ie 10kg rice, onion, potato, protein powder, cocoa powder, flaxseeds all target odd nutrients hard to get in cheap food)
The fresh stuff that gets weekly replenishments vary upon season of course but right now:
Bananas, oranges, carrots, spinach or kale, that lists about $7-8 AUD for the week already. (TBC)

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:03:53 2014 No.5585414

>>5585366

bullshit. Many meats are very useful for frugal eating.

Consider a whole chicken, normally available for $5. Buy a few carrots, some celery, a couple onions, and a pound of pasta or beans. You should be able to get all that for $10.

Roast the the chicken whole and break it down. You have 4 large servings of meat (2 legs, 2 breasts), plus the remaining meat on the wingtips and skeleton. Pick off the larger bits for a sandwich. (that's serving #5) Toss the skeleton in a soup pot with some water and your veggies. Add your beans (or pasta) when appropriate for their cooking time. Now you have several servings of chicken noodle (or bean) soup to go with your meats. That should have you covered for dinners for a whole week for $10.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:04:29 2014 No.5585417 >>5585409 butthurt vegan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:06:01 2014 No.5585421 >>5585409 appeal to authority is a logical fallacy for a reason, you know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:07:27 2014 No.5585429 >>5585398 >Its what my doctor told me... So that does make sense. It's a too much of a generalization to make any sense at all. Also, you do know that the vast majority of doctors have very little education when it comes to nutrition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:07:37 2014 No.5585431 >>5585421 >dismiss all of sciences understanding of nutrition. >logic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:08:25 2014 No.5585435 >>5585431 then why arent all doctors vegans?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:09:07 2014 No.5585437 >>5585431 that was my first post but i could just as easily say my doctor told me meat was plenty healthy, and then it's just a game of, "no you're wrong and I'M right"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:09:10 2014 No.5585438 >>5585414 >Consider a whole chicken, normally available for $5 There's nothing more disturbing than budget meat. Enjoy your ammonia and penis cancer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:09:33 2014 No.5585439 >>5585435 Because they need higher brain function.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:10:21 2014 No.5585442 File: 488 KB, 1600x1067, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5585421 >science is authority >science is logic >appeal to logic is illogical >yfw

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:11:15 2014 No.5585443
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>>5585435

Same reasons not all doctors refrain from smoking/drinking. They don't necessarily care about their own healthy, their job is to just diagnose medical problems in people

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:11:16 2014 No.5585444 >>5585438 what are sales?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:12:47 2014 No.5585447 >>5585443 but the majority of doctors dont smoke b/c they know its bad so you would expect a huge amount of doctors to be vegan but they arent

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:12:50 2014 No.5585448 >>5585443 Actually their job is to push prescription medications, and they're frequently bribed to do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:13:38 2014 No.5585450 >>5585444 A way to quickly get rid of the more disgusting pieces of meat before their "presentation chemicals" wear off and they become unsellable

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:14:42 2014 No.5585453 >>5585448 Because a lot of people need prescription medications, because they refuse to change other things about their diet and lifestyle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:15:12 2014 No.5585455 >>5585438 Who said it was budget meat? My butcher sells locally raised hormone- and antibiotic-free chickens for $1.19/lb. They get them in fresh every morning--never frozen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:16:42 2014 No.5585462 >>5585455 That's what he tells you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:17:28 2014 No.5585464 >>5585450 >presentation chemicals Your tinfoil hat needs resurfacing, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:17:34 2014 No.5585465 >>5585127 I agree. Especially on the geographic location part. I live in a shithole southern state where getting fresh produce is tough and expensive. I love all the posters talking about organic or ethnic markets as if it's an option for everyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:18:06 2014 No.5585466 >>5585464 dont poke the vegans, its the easiest way to ruin a thread

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:18:09 2014 No.5585467

>>5584322
were not fucking elephants; we don't 100lbs of fresh green vegetables every day to survive

and the 'cheap vs healthy eating' debate refers mostly to families and how they feed their kids as related to their income, schedule, food access etc ... and not how some guy in his twenties who could easily feed themselves as healthily as they wanted to if they tried hard enough

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:19:02 2014 No.5585468 >>5585464 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Consumer/story?id=3863064

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:20:23 2014 No.5585470

>>5585448
>>5585453

The truth is somewhere between these posts.

Doctors prescribe meds because they can say "the patient didnt follow my precription plan" and they are absolved of liability. If they prescribe healthy food, the question of whether the prescription was followed is now difficult and muddy to define. Liability becomes an issue.

I have cured myself of type 2 diabetese, obesity, high cholesterol, and tension head aches by eating healthier, including limiting (but not eliminating) meat and calorie intake.

Its not anecdotal when I am one of millions of people who have done this and proven this diet to lead to better health.

One only need look at the china study to see that eating less meat leads to less cancer, heart disease, obesity... And there are thousands of other smaller studies that all back this up.

Inbf >china study

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:21:33 2014 No.5585471

>>5585413
(Continued)
Mushrooms. For meat I just go by lean ground beef. Its the cheaper better shit. Chicken in general is cheap but I'm not into it. Plus apparently we shouldn't be eating more than a pack of cards sized piece of meat per day. $5-6 AUD for half a kilo is therefore gonna spread a few days. Plus a dozen eggs and some dairy item a week. <$30 achieved 90% your nutritional targets.
On the odd ocassion you find odd things on sale like eggplant or whatever and that's when you jump in and vary your diet a bit.
With your well stored away rice & potatoes though you're of course more than just eating those things.
You probably do a lot the same already. But all I do is cut corners yet retain nutrition (ground instead of steak) and calculate what which veges will provide nutrients when another I'm eating doesn't.

Also I hate to be the Yeast Extract (Vegemite, Marmite etc) shill but 1 tbs a day and most your B vitamin needs are cleared. Its cheap too especially in giant jars. But its cheaper than buying a bunch of foods that cost $5 upward per week that handles your B Vitamin needs.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:24:57 2014 No.5585476

>>5585470

The problem is, atleast in America, saying "hey guys, maybe we should eat less meat and eat more whole grains and legumes and other healthy plant foods" causes an extreme ruffling of feathers and people take that as some kind of personal attack. If people would just limit it to a few small portions a week rather than having 3 meaty meals a day, we'd be in better shape as a nation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:33:01 2014 No.5585485

>>5585476
>the problem is ruffling feathers

Ruffling feathers isnt a problem. Allowing your feathers to get ruffled is the problem because of "muh beefy freedoms."

I could care less if every stupid person on the planet gives themselves a coronary. Im only preaching to the smart "unrufflable" people that will listen.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:34:31 2014 No.5585490

>>5585476
>the problem is ruffling feathers

Ruffling feathers isnt a problem. Allowing your feathers to get ruffled is the problem because of "muh beefy freedoms."

I could care less if every stupid person on the planet gives themselves a coronary eating sat fats. Im only preaching to the smart "unrufflable" people that will listen. Those are the bright folks i actually care about anyway.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:34:53 2014 No.5585493

>>5585476
or, alternatively, if we got off our collective fat asses once in a while.

for some reason people have it in their minds that they can eat like a heavy manual laborer even though they're sitting in an office all day long.

and then they get fat as shit.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:37:49 2014 No.5585496

>>5585476
its not the meat that is the problem, its the lack of physical activity and lack of veggies, fruits and other ingredients to a balanced meal and eating too much processed shit foods.

I come from a long line of family farmers. We eat meat 2-3 times a day everyday. We also eat lots of veggies and fruits fresh in season or canned/frozen/dehydrated out of season. We have a decent level of physical activity from working. Most people in my family like well into late 80's to early 90's

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:40:33 2014 No.5585503 >>5585493 >>5585496 Being fat isn't the only bad thing to come from diet and lack of activity. Some foods promote health, some don't. Whether you're active or not doesn't mean a lot, you can be active and still die prematurely from a shitty diet

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:41:05 2014 No.5585505

>>5585496
>decent level of physical activity.

Thats great for you. People in the city that are too busy working and playing to work out can achieve the same longevity by just altering their diets.

Of course in capitalist america, if you can sell exercise videos to fat people along with exercise equipment and gym memberships then exercise becomes the obvious go to.

But people can actually get healthy on a much lower budget by just eating better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:43:54 2014 No.5585511 >>5585503 you can, sure, but it's one hell of a lot less likely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:45:46 2014 No.5585515 >>5585505 >too busy working are you saying we dont work? I may come from a long line of farmers and have a family farm but I run a restaurant for a living and work at least 60hrs a week

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:46:59 2014 No.5585518 >>5585505 >on a much lower budget doesn't get much cheaper than going for a jog and doing some push ups

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:49:46 2014 No.5585524 >>5585511 "Less likely" isn't that reassuring when you consider how common heart disease and cancer are

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:52:23 2014 No.5585533 >>5585524 is it not more reassuring than "completely inevitable" ? i'm not claiming that no change in diet with more exercise will fix all the problems, but it'll take a pretty big chunk out of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:56:12 2014 No.5585545 >>5585518 Jogging and push ups dont save you any money. Eating healthy actually saves you money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:57:16 2014 No.5585547 >>5585515 No i was just saying that city folk are often too busy working. Meanwhile you work and get exercise at the same time. Way to get defensive there hay seed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 16:59:46 2014 No.5585551 >>5585545 >eating healthy actually saves you money find me a healthy diet that's cheaper than eating nothing but rice and beans 24/7.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:01:07 2014 No.5585553 >>5585545 >>5585551 Jokes on you guys. Being healthy always saves you money. Doctors, medications, surgeries, missing work, and otherwise suffering; they're all fucking expensive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:01:46 2014 No.5585558 >>5585551 Well, I'd wager that some meat or B12 supplements added to your diet are going to be less costly than what will happen when you're hospitalized from its deficiency.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:01:49 2014 No.5585560 >>5585551 Find me people living on rice and beans and ill suggest a better diet for them. Until then, keep your straw man mouth shut.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:04:04 2014 No.5585565

>>5585558
>>5585553
>doctors
>hospitalized
not saving any money if i don't go to the hospital, now is it?

>>5585560
that one bitch on freaky eaters made it pretty far in life eating nothing but cheese and potatoes. got a healthier diet than that for cheaper? i doubt it.

>b-but muh health problems
literally has nothing to do with saving money unless you're actively going to the hospital/paying medical bills. which is irrelevant for many people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:05:59 2014 No.5585566 >>5585565 >not saving any money if i don't go to the hospital, now is it? Nope, you'll just be dead. I guess you win the argument since you wouldn't be spending any more money. You get a gold star. Congrats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:07:54 2014 No.5585569 >>5585566 it's a good thing the argument was about saving money and not health problems saying, "eating healthy saves money" with no context around it is fucking stupid, is the point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:09:33 2014 No.5585574 >>5585569 Everyone posting on this board is human and lives on the planet earth. Claiming no context is full retardation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:10:59 2014 No.5585577

>>5585574
not every human gives any sort of a shit about their health, and many blatantly refuse to ever set foot in a hospital.

so yes, context is most definitely needed when making a statement like that, as health related expenses aren't even immediately related to food in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:11:20 2014 No.5585578 >>5585569 maximum autism confirmed >>5585574 yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:13:13 2014 No.5585582 >>5585578 >maximum autism confirmed >oh shit i couldn't prove my point correct through normal means of communication >i know, i'll call him autistic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:13:36 2014 No.5585585 >>5585577 >healthy eating claims >not related to health expenses Maybe if you're a fucking retard like most of the "muh beefy freedoms" crowd...

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:16:21 2014 No.5585588

>>5585585
considering they're not related in any way to health related expenses for a shockingly large number of people, no they most certainly are not related, as health expenses don't exist for many of the people these claims are directed towards.

i'm actually a bit shocked nobody has accused me of being a delusional fatty yet.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:33:08 2014 No.5585613
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>friend of mine is in the hospital due to kidney failure
>other friend was recently diagnosed with parkinson's at 23 years of age
>another friend has some kind of bladder control issue and goes in and out of the hospital because the doctors don't know what's wrong with him
>yet another is constantly getting giant cysts and just generally looks like a walking pile of shit, complaining all the time about how he feels so much older than he is
>they all live on junk food and cheese
>they still act like I'm some weird health nut because I avoid the stuff they eat and instead eat what science says will allow me to avoid all the shit they go through

Thanks to constant advertising from non-health food industries, it's considered weird in America to eat anything that isn't potato chips, mountain dew, bacon, eggs, cheese, wonderbread, or mayo. When you see someone with broccoli or kale in their shopping cart, you're apparently supposed to think "what a try-hard hipster, that's not what the TV said to buy"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:33:38 2014 No.5585615 >>5585582 You misunderstand. We know he won the argument. I even said that he won and got a gold star. I'm calling him an autist for sticking with a strict literal definition that no normal human being would agree with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:39:24 2014 No.5585623 >>5585613 stop hanging around lazy, fat people. my regular grocery trips are spent 99% in the meat/produce section and nobody bats an eye. and it's where you find most of the cute grills as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:51:39 2014 No.5585654 >What are thermodynamics 11 grams of sugar will have the same effects as 25 grams of protein

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:52:24 2014 No.5585655 >>5585654 same what effects, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:53:51 2014 No.5585658 >>5585654 It's like saying*

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 17:56:20 2014 No.5585663

>>5585613

What kind of cheese do they eat? Just pure American cheese? Because that shit is fucking nasty as shit...

>be me
>have friend over who just eats junk food
>cook him healthy dinner
>there is actual cheese in the meal
>Blue cheese
>"Ewww anon, what the fuck is that?"
>"uhmmm cheese?"
>"why is it moldy looking"
>"it's blue cheese, it's meant to look like that"
>proceeds to pick it off the meat and place it in napkin

I even gave him something simple like mild cheddar and he hated the flavor....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:20:55 2014 No.5585711 >>5585663 What kind of genius rode you to give blue cheese to a guy who lives purely on junk food?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:25:13 2014 No.5585724

>>5585663

Kraft cheddar, but cheese is cheese. Whether it's artisan cheese or not doesn't mean a lot for how healthy it is, same as a more fancy kind of white bread baked by a french masterchef is still just white bread even if it tastes better/higher quality.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:42:08 2014 No.5585771

>>5584322
>Kale
>Salmon
>Bell peppers
>Berries
>Almonds/walnuts

Boy, u dun goofed

Nothing on that list except for carrots are necessary for a healthy diet.

You should adapt your diet to vegetables and fruits of the season, trying to get grapes in the winter of course will be expensive.

Go with chicken and red meat, salmon unless you live near a river won't be a wise choice if you're poor.

You shouldn't be eating nuts in bulk, they're mostly a complement, something that you put on your meals to get a different flavour.

>Learn to shop newbie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:50:46 2014 No.5585806 >>5585771 >Nothing on that list except for carrots are necessary for a healthy diet Why do you say that, and why specifically are carrots necessary for health? >Go with chicken and red meat He's looking for healthy foods though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:57:44 2014 No.5585821 >>5584365 >>5584365 /fit/ pls go

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:14:37 2014 No.5585862 >>5585806 >this faggot Not even that guy but please kill yourself >ALL MEAT IS BAD OMG MUH ANIMAL BABYS AOMG U GUN EAT MEAT U GUN HAV CANER UMG fuck off faggot nigger pussified feminist piece of shit fedora

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:15:41 2014 No.5585864 >>5584322 >being retarded >thinks micronutrient plays such a big role on actual health >dismisses beans but thinks that bell peppers are oh so important top kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:19:14 2014 No.5585882 >>5584337 I agree. fuck cilantro. Buy that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:21:00 2014 No.5585885 File: 186 KB, 381x380, babby.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5585862 Are you gonna be okay, bro? Groom your feathers

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:28:03 2014 No.5585904

>>5584404
>but I really should start saving for bigger things like a house, marriage one day and yada yada yada.

this is the kind of brainwashing that will drain your bank dry. you don't need a bigger house or to get married, ESPECIALLY when you only feel that you /should/ have these things. that's a sign you're being imposed upon.

AthlonDude !!VH4JnTrUMj4 Tue Jul 8 19:39:00 2014 No.5585926

>>5584322
Eat combinations of cheap foods. Cabbage and potatoes, rice and beans, carrots and celery. Eat breakfast staples such as oatmeal and Cream of Wheat. This is the absolute cheapest way to survive. Eggs are cheap too. Meat is more expensive, but you can do okay if you limit red meat and seafood. Poultry is the best deal as far as meat goes, and fairly healthy. Nuts are good for you, but expensive per pound. If you are just a picky eater, then no one here can help you.
>>5584356
I pay like 40-something cents a pound for carrots where I live. The OP must live in Alaska or Hawaii something. In Ohio, vegetables are cheap.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:40:28 2014 No.5585928

>>5585904
>this is the kind of brainwashing that will drain your bank dry. you don't need a bigger house or to get married, ESPECIALLY when you only feel that you /should/ have these things. that's a sign you're being imposed upon.
Maybe in the wrong city, at the wrong time in a local economy, but the tax break is high on a house, something rent vs buy idiots don't understand. It's simply important to get a good deal in location, location, location.

If you are not living beneath your means, and you're renting, something is wrong with you planning, and that shit had better be temporary, like during college/training/short term housing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:43:25 2014 No.5585932 >>5585090 And BEANS AND RICE are not something you can actually eat constantly while being healthy. Eating healthy is eating a wide range of things with a wide range of nutrition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:49:12 2014 No.5585945 This thread is a laff. >/ck/ in charge of giving advice on eating healthy when everyone here is an obese redneck who eats meat and a starch for every meal

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:55:04 2014 No.5585965

>>5585932

I agree that other foods should be eaten (fruits and vegetables), but when we're talking calories, beans and grains are the healthiest route, reducing your risk of heart disease, diabetes, cancer, alzheimers, etc. They also happen to be extremely cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:57:09 2014 No.5585972 >>5585270 >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=99 I don't really think that a micronutritional profile matched/surpassed by many other nuts justifies the high omega-6 content

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:02:24 2014 No.5585985 >>5585972 What? walnuts are one of the better sources of omega 3s. walnuts/almonds have the best macro spread of any nuts, too

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:02:32 2014 No.5585986

>>5585972

Why do you believe the omega-6 content is something to worry about, especially when walnuts are consistently shown to be good for the heart? All the data I've seen that suggests excess omega-6 is harmful came specifically from rancid, oxidized oils, not whole food sources like walnuts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:05:05 2014 No.5585997 >>5585986 I'm not going to argue against you right now, but could you cite something?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:05:41 2014 No.5585999

>that one guy who says eating healthy is cheaper than eating like crap

If that means making food at home instead of giving in to temptation and pulling into the drive-thru, you're damned straight. Even an "unhealthy" home dinner is cheaper and better for you than that.

>>5584679
This guy.

I really feel like price-per-week on groceries has more to do with where you buy than what you buy. I've seen big shopping trips cost me 200$ at the closest supermarket, but driving a little further would yield me the same groceries for 30 to 70$ less. Farmer's markets and are eldergod tier, but even places like immigrant stores and aldi are waaaay cheaper than your average supermarket.

Most people I know shop at walmart. Now I will admit, they sell some things insanely cheap- mainly junkfood. A bag of cheetos there is 2$ less than anywhere else, but their produce is terrible and overpriced, as is their meat.

This week where I live, sweet onions are the cheapest thing to buy, because they're in season. These guys can sometimes come to almost 3$ a pop and they're selling bags of 4 for 1.20 at Aldi and they look fresher than the more pricey red and yellow onions. Season is key- find a cheap store and buy seasonal for the most bang for your buck.

ALSO
Don't waste food. If you're stick of leftovers, chuck them in the freezer until you're willing to eat it again. If you make a huge side dish of peas and don't finish them all, add them into the next meal. Curries and soups lend to this, as does fried rice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:16:32 2014 No.5586028 >>5585468 I live in Canada, where this process is illegal. I can still buy a chicken for $5 on a regular basis.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:18:09 2014 No.5586035

>>5585997

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11694605

^ About walnut polyphenols

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/119/6/902.full

^ And then the American Heart Association talking about omega-6

>At present, little direct evidence supports a net proinflammatory, proatherogenic effect of LA in humans.

The omega-6 thing seems to be more of a scapegoat than a legit concern, mainly talked about by people who promote high saturated fat diets, who are trying to avert your eyes from the dangers of saturated fat onto what they want you to believe is potentially more dangerous

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:20:58 2014 No.5586048 >>5585663 Blue cheese isn't exactly an entry level cheese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:28:03 2014 No.5586076 >>5586048 Who the fuck decides what is and isnt an "entry level cheese" and how autistic do you have to be to use terminology like that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:34:59 2014 No.5586102 >>5585663 ugh, blue cheese is so nasty especially if you aren't used to the flavor. Gruyere is king of cheese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:36:26 2014 No.5586109 >>5584677 >>5584709 >living in a 3rd world country

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 20:54:51 2014 No.5586157 >>5584337 plant flowers that repel insects. that's what my mom does and i'm pretty sure she doesn't have that problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:10:18 2014 No.5586192 >>5584337 how do you do it then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:23:02 2014 No.5586216 I forgive you OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:28:58 2014 No.5586239 >>5586109 Are you one of the 38% of Americans on welfare?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:30:27 2014 No.5586245

>>5585442
Nice logic there.

The point is... if you can't rationalise our claims yourself, don't just blindly follow some authority. Science is still a rather humane construct. People make mistakes. There's a lot of uncertainty involved with this shit precisely because a human being handle and access only so much information.

Science isn't logic. Science can and should follow logic, but that's not necessarily always the case. There are always and without exception plenty of things that we may perceive as being science that might be disproven later on and judged as illogical. This isn't just pseudo-philosophical bullshit. This shit pervades the entirity of science. Blindly following what is thought of as scientifically accurate rather easily undermines the whole point in the scientific method. If things scientific theory is left unquestioned for too long and it becomes outdated, that shit affects anything that's been built upon it. How do you think society-spanning misconceptions come to be? Everything is theory until proven otherwise, and even then it's questionable if opposing theory and sufficient evidence surface. But seriously, the biggest reason you want to follow science is because it's the best we can get. It's a shitty argument in itself, but I haven't got much else to give you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:31:22 2014 No.5586246 >>5584322 Your fixation with calories is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:33:46 2014 No.5586251 >>5585615 In that case, you obviously don't see the value of definite, solid communication. Jesus... I seriously hope you never wrote anything academic that got spread around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:37:10 2014 No.5586258 >>5586245 P.S. Sorry about the mistakes in my post... I haven't slept in >24 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:38:04 2014 No.5586262 >>5586246 I weigh 150 pounds and I'm 6'0. I make sure I get my 2k maintenance calories a day and I take into account how good of a deal food is by measuring their calories and price.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:39:02 2014 No.5586265 >>5586258 I mean the language... not the subject matter itself.

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 21:51:24 2014 No.5586285

>>5584322
why the fuck are you listing only calories among the health? calories have very little to do with health.

count calories only if you're trying to gain or lose weight. one can be skinny and still be very unhealthy. conversely, it's possible to be overweight and still be healthy (not great odds of it, but possible).

2/10 for the response, but honestly, this is too stupid to be anything but a retarded troll

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 22:23:05 2014 No.5586349 >>5586285 Perhaps OP is sickly thin or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 09:31:58 2014 No.5587377 http://www.vice.com/read/this-man-has-survived-on-pizza-alone-for-25-years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:23:56 2014 No.5589586 >>5584341 >what are antioxidants >what is fish oil

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:27:53 2014 No.5589600 >>5589586 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:29:38 2014 No.5589602 where can I go to weigh myself for free?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:32:06 2014 No.5589609 >>5586246 But calories are literally the only thing that matters when gaining or losing weight. I guest you are American?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:37:53 2014 No.5589619 >>5584322 How is this thread still alive what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:38:27 2014 No.5589621 >>5589609 except that post was in response to OP, who was trying to make a thread about health. not weight loss I "guest" you are illiterate?

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:43:52 2014 No.5589626

>>5589621
>healthy foods are typically low in calories despite having nutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, whatever
>healthy foods cost just as much as junk food despite being much lower in calories
>eating solely health foods is therefore much more expensive than eating like crap

That's the point OP is trying to make. Health foods like the ones he list ARE a bad deal as far as calories/per dollar go.

However, you're not supposed to eat only "superfoods". Your main sources of calories SHOULD be whole grains, lentils/beans, healthy fats, and starchy vegetables. Leafy greens, watery, low cal vegetables, nuts, fruit fish, should all supplement a diet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 00:47:58 2014 No.5589638 >>5589626 why are you responding to me? i'm not talking about literally any of that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 01:42:41 2014 No.5589744 Guys a head of lettuce is cheap. Cabbage is cheap. Carrots are cheap. Potatoes are cheap. How is it better to buy shit food??? Do you only shop at the gas station after you blew your food money on booze?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 01:45:55 2014 No.5589754 Um rice can be soaked and sprouted GABA Rice is a thing, it can be fermented for probiotics Beans can be sprouted for "micro greens", red cabbage has some of the highest amounts of antioxidants in a food Like just be smart and research dumbass OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 01:55:38 2014 No.5589776 >>5589626 OP is a retard for thinking that calories are the point, and so apparently are you.

>>	AthlonDude !!VH4JnTrUMj4 Thu Jul 10 03:28:40 2014 No.5589967 File: 41 KB, 391x379, starving-man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5584322 Pic related, it's OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:32:51 2014 No.5589973 >>5589744 lettuce and cabbage are $2 a head, potatoes are $2/lb, only carrots are cheap of what you listed (where I live) and I'm not talking about retard organic Whole Foods prices, I mean shitty supermarket prices

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:33:56 2014 No.5589977 >>5584322 >Stuff like broccoli, kale, other leafy greens, berries, bell peppers, almonds/walnuts, salmon. >actual health foods What the FUCK am I reading here?

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:37:14 2014 No.5589982

Where the fuck do you even live, OP?

I consistently spend less than $300/month to feed 3 people. I make everything from scratch and we eat extremely healthy. There's no chance in hell you're going to spend less than $100 surviving on fast food for a single month.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:37:44 2014 No.5589983 >>5584322 >$2 for a pound of kale is expensive What, are you eating an entire pound of kale each meal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:40:39 2014 No.5589989 >>5589973 The fuuuuck. Carrots are $0.99/lb where I live. A head of lettuce is $0.99. A head of cabbage is $0.89. Potatoes are $0.89/lb, or often $2.50 for a 5lb bag. What the actual fuck is wrong with where you are shopping?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:06:24 2014 No.5590012 >>5584403 This. But it involves traditions, culture and cooking education, not to mention dedication.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:12:05 2014 No.5590018 >>5589977 so people just let retards roam freely on the web still? thought this would of been better patrolled by now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:18:21 2014 No.5590038 >>5590018 >would of ya blew it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:02:25 2014 No.5590098 ONE bell pepper in my country cost 3 or 4 dollars. Thats like, a dozen packets of instant noodles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:09:24 2014 No.5590105 in Denmark I can buy 4,4 lbs(2 kg) of carrots for 0.7$ Also we have more money than muricans a farmers nation everyone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:13:17 2014 No.5590112 >>5590098 How is it in imaginary land? Is it nice?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:19:50 2014 No.5590115 >>5589989 >What the actual fuck is wrong with where you are shopping? It's in california I wish I wasn't born here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:21:44 2014 No.5590119 >>5584322 >what is buying in bulk from farmers markets Lel

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:39:50 2014 No.5590135

>>5584322
>>Kale and kale are $2 a pound where I live and give virtually no calories.
>>Wildcaught salmon is $15 a pound, ~600 cals
>>Bell peppers $1 each and give 50-100 calories
>>Carrots are $1 a pound, ~200 calories
>>Most berries $3 a pint for a few hundred calories
>>Almonds/walnuts $7 for a pound, ~1.5k calories, actually a pretty decent deal
onions, jalapenos, squash, tomatoes , beans, rice, quinoa, flour, watermelons, water, stuff and more stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:41:13 2014 No.5590137 >>5590112 I can take a photograph of imaginary land prices if you like, you mundane piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:41:34 2014 No.5590138 >>5590115 isnt produce even cheaper and fresher in cali? anytime i drive along hwy 1, or 99 i pick up like 20lbs of produce for about 10bux

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:41:39 2014 No.5590139 >>5590119 >buying produce in bulk have fun having all your shit go bad in 3 days, trollfag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 09:26:18 2014 No.5590332 >>5590139 >calling vegetables and fruits "produce" I don't even know why it bothers me so much. Maybe I'm just braindamaged

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 09:35:23 2014 No.5590340 >>5590139 Sounds like you've never heard of preserving food. You can pickle it, freeze it, cook with it and refrigerate the leftovers, etc. etc...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 09:43:07 2014 No.5590349 >>5584322 >I'm talking about micronutrients and actual health foods. Stuff like broccoli, kale, other leafy greens, berries, bell peppers, almonds/walnuts, salmon Don't you mean bee pollen and maca root?

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:07:57 2014 No.5590652

>>5584322
>not eating primarily lean meats with a side of vegetables
>not eating a fuckload of dairy products for maximum gains

Buy in bulk, mane. It's hard to get too many calories if you cut fast food and sugary shit out of your regular diet. And if you're worried about getting too few calories, drink more milk, eat more peanut butter and cheese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:12:56 2014 No.5590663 >>5590138 even if it isn't, their ridiculous wages make up for those differences in price

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:16:33 2014 No.5590667

>>5590135

onions are $2/lb where I live, tomatoes are $3-4/lb

yeah beans and rice is cheap, but I don't think a lot of people are willing to live on just beans and rice unless they absolutely have to

>>5590138

If you drive to where those fruit stands are, but with the price of gas (the ones on the way to monterey are about 35 miles from me) at that point I'm not really saving money

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:22:20 2014 No.5590679 >>5584322 >get one chicken breast >two cups of store brand mixed stirfry vegetables >some pasta sauce there, dinner >b-b-but muh pasta fuck your pasta, fuck filler foods

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:45:56 2014 No.5590715 >>5590652 >eating a bunch of meat and dairy instead of grains and beans Go away /fit/, you're not qualified to talk about health

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:48:09 2014 No.5590720 >>5590715 >beans for gains Lol here we go again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:50:45 2014 No.5590721 >>5590720 Did OP ever say he was a 500 pound Russian power lifter?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:51:12 2014 No.5590722 >>5590720 We're not talking about gains here. You're the only one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:51:23 2014 No.5590723 >>5590721 it was heavily implied

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:52:23 2014 No.5590725 >>5590721 What the hell does that have to do with anything?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 12:55:59 2014 No.5590730 >>5590725 >Hey guys, I'm OP, looking for healthy food that's cheap and won't leave me starving >HERE'S WHAT YA GOTTA DO, GO BUY A BUNCH OF MEAT AND MILK AND CHEESE AND JUST EAT THAT SHIT, FUCK BROCCOLI, GET PUSSY BRO

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:03:44 2014 No.5590738

>>5590730
>98% lean ground beef >$2/lb
>boneless skinless chicken breast $4/lb
I understand beans and rice are cheap, but sources of lean protein are filling too and are a good way to sustain muscle development if that's what OP is looking for, which can be assumed from the fact that he's looking for healthy food, which would automatically imply he's making some sort of effort to excercise

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:07:33 2014 No.5590742

>>5590738

But those aren't healthy foods and "I'm looking for healthy food" does not in any way translate to "I'm lifting weights and need to build muscle," you just spend too much time on /fit/, nor does exercise mean bodybuilding, nor does exercise require large amounts of animal protein. Your "health advice" is just dangerous

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:09:40 2014 No.5590748 >>5590738 >>98% lean ground beef >$2/lb >>boneless skinless chicken breast $4/lb where the fuck do you live so i can move there? it's more like $4/lb for 73/27 ground beef (more for less fat) and $6/lb for boneless skinless chicken breast here

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:10:54 2014 No.5590753

>>5590742
Oh Christ I found the vegan
>protein intake has nothing to do with muscle development
>animal products are automatically unhealthy
>foods can be labeled as healthy or unhealthy, not lifestyle and eating patterns
>you can shovel in any food as long as it's not from an animal and you won't get fat, I swear

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:12:20 2014 No.5590756 >>5590748 Just outside of Chicago braddah, don't move here though, food prices are about all there is

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:12:48 2014 No.5590758 >>5590748 come to america

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:22:44 2014 No.5590786

>>5590753

>protein intake has nothing to do with muscle development

Excess protein does not do anything but raise your IGF-1 levels and make you more susceptible to cancer

>animal products are automatically unhealthy

The ones you mentioned, yes

>foods can be labeled as healthy or unhealthy, not lifestyle and eating patterns

Both contribute to a person's health, OP specifically asked about healthy foods

>you can shovel in any food as long as it's not from an animal and you won't get fat, I swear

Had nothing to do with what I said. I realize you're offended that I didn't go along with your dogmatic broscience, but we're all trying to help OP here and you're just spreading your lack of education.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:24:45 2014 No.5590788 >>5590758 i live in florida goddamnit, and not even the nice parts like miami or tampa... we're supposed to have a low cost of living, that's why my dumbass parents moved here 20 years ago.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:30:07 2014 No.5590800

>>5584322
>not shopping at asian market for cheap vegetable prices.
>not eating variety of different fishes that are much more affordable.
>not going to farmers market for insanely cheap fruit prices (and vegetables sometimes).
>not using rice and beans as calorie fillers, and rest for other nutrients.
>implying most people wouldn't benefit from just eating less, and saving money just by eating less.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:33:09 2014 No.5590806

>>5590786
>you only need 1g of protein per 30kg of body weight maaan
>free the animals maaan
>you can be healthy without excercise, just respect the earth maaan
>I have no valid points for this absurd belief so I won't even argue for it
>veganism isn't dogmatic maaan
I can't hear you over my masters in biochem

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:35:35 2014 No.5590813 >>5584322 ITT: hurrdurr I can eat for 5 years on 8 bucks are you even trying derpadoo. >didn't even need to read any of the 240 posts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:40:58 2014 No.5590822 >>5590806 This is some awful strawmen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:42:11 2014 No.5590825 >>5590822 It's alright, hopefully the kid will grow out of his /fit/ phase eventually and learn something about human nutrition

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 13:44:34 2014 No.5590832 >>5590825 >>5590822 The samefaggery is so painfully obvious Maybe you'll grow out of being a skinny fat too, we'll see

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 14:11:15 2014 No.5590900

>>5584322
>kale, leafy greens, cabbages
All cheaper if you buy them frozen. They are also easy to grow for nearly free

>Wild caught salmon
Is not any healthier than domestic farmed salmon which is cheaper and also more sustainable for the environment. Ignorance promotes over-fishing

>Bell peppers
Most supermarkets sell bags of baby bells on the cheap

>carrots. expensive
Maybe shredded or baby carrots, which aren't healthy either as they're chemically treated. Five pound bag of whole carrots. Probably less than four dollars.

>berries
Again, way cheaper if you buy frozen. Especially if you buy in 3+ pound bags

>almonds/walnuts
Aren't the only healthy nuts out there but you can buy nuts in shell to save money and crack them yourself.

>rice, useless
White rice lacks any substantial nutrtion but is useful a calorie-dense platform for more nutritious but calorie-light foods

Eat healthy as fuck ~$200 a month, two people

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 14:37:50 2014 No.5590981

>>5584322
Seriously though, where do people live where eating organic/fresh is cheaper than eating junk?

Are people still in denial about this?
I can't get fresh salmon, fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, and hormone/GMO free beverages for cheaper prices than the majority of junk food.
>inb4 budgeting and buying frozen
Why do you think so many people buy junk to begin with? If junk was unaffordable like fresh seafood nobody would fucking buy it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 00:46:51 2014 No.5592749

>>5590981
You don't need to go full "organic", that's just a gimmick that costs extra. Greens are healthier than a bigmac, even if they're spooky scary GMOs. No one here said they eat salmon and goji berries every day, they said "Rice, beans, cheap lean meat, and seasonal veggies."

Junk is not cheaper on anything but time. I'm going to admit, my current dinner is chips and dip. Why? because I was busy and didn't get to cook this week and plowed through all the pre-made dinners in my fridge. 10$ for two bags of chips and onion dip stuff. For 10$ I could have bought some meat and a few veggies and made a stir fry, but at that moment I valued time over health.

Many people also don't understand the value of a dollar when compared to something wildly different. They see a 3$ box of little debbie pastries as a bargain, but 2 avocados for 2$ as too expensive. Beef for 5$ a pound is better than 5$ worth of frozen spinach. Soda and beer are huge money/health drains that most people can't go without as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 00:49:33 2014 No.5592754 >>5590981 That is a unfair arguement because seafood is expensive period unless you live on the coast. Seafood at restaurants is more expensive than burgers also. I'm sorry you can't eat fresh salmon everyday for cheaper than hamburgers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 05:56:12 2014 No.5593177 >>5584322 What it to you, you dumb fuck. Healthy foods cost a lot so what? It's probably cause no one buys them in america, go to peru or some 3rd world country fish and veggies are fucking cheap

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 06:19:53 2014 No.5593203

>>5584322
But that's wrong op, I buy spices, sauces, beans, flour and rice at the local bulk store.

On the weekend I go to the vegetable market and buy seconds. Potatoes, yams, carrots, spinach, onions, celery, cabbage, peppers, tomatoes. Buying small produce helps as well, haggled and got 4 small pumpkins for 3.50.

Same with meat, I'll buy a box of chickens and break them down freeze them in portions. Occasionally I'll get a side of lamb or back quarter of beef.

Most people just don't know what the fuck they are doing.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 10:14:12 2014 No.5593485

>>5590981
>Why do you think so many people buy junk to begin with?

Because they either can't be bothered to shop and cook (aka lazy), or don't know how.

>>where do people live where eating organic/fresh is cheaper than eating junk?

In my case, central Texas. I don't buy organic specifically--I chose my produce based on it's freshness and appearance. Sometimes that happens to be organic, but not always. I average $2 per meal on lunches and $5 per meal on dinners on average. And frankly if I wanted to I could lower the cost on dinners quite easily, but I enjoy the occasional splurge on expensive ingredients.

>>5592749
This guy gets it.

Anyway, I'd be happy to post some example weekly meal plans if you're interested.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 11:13:41 2014 No.5593594

>>5584514
The only actual problem with the suggestion is space. Most people just don't have a spot to plant on. I don't. But saying that its pesticides or nothing is just wrong. Growing up all we used was bird flashing, dr. bronners peppermint + water in a spray bottle, and a little elbow grease to pick potato bugs (disgusting). Sure animals and pests will get some of your stuff, but its not the blighted apocalypse you're imagining it to be, particularly if you plant a diversity of stuff

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 15:42:35 2014 No.5594083
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>>5584620
Same person here. Just went grocery shopping for under $20 to last a week and a half for two people. Used another 10% off entire purchase coupon after completing a survey online.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 15:46:31 2014 No.5594090

>>5593485
>Soda and beer
>money and health drains

soda absolutely, but alcohol shouldn't have anything to do with our discussion of food. what i mean to say is soda is easily replaced by water in this context, but alcohol isn't a dietary need.

BUT, beer is a waste of alcohol funds. both liquor and wine are cheaper (and less caloric for ABV).

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 15:59:26 2014 No.5594131
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>>5584322
>salmon for $15 dollars a pound
I know I shouldn't but I can't stand seeing people pay this for fish

Buy fish whole and break it down yourself instead of paying so much for a fillet. You can even buy salmon heads for very cheap and get a fair amount of meat and a pretty good meal out of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:02:33 2014 No.5594141 >>5594131 wait, what the actual fuck? i bought 2 lbs of salmon for $8 yesterday and i live in the fucking middle of the states.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:06:21 2014 No.5594152 >>5594141 Yeah but was it fresh caught organic all natural no preservatives home style Copper River salmon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:12:06 2014 No.5594168 File: 127 KB, 893x595, laugh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5584322 >Counting calories from vegetables

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:20:00 2014 No.5594189
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>>5594131
>>5594141

Or buy flax seeds instead. Highest source of omega-3 in the world, also massive amounts of lignans and good fiber content, can be bought in bulk and stored in a dry place indefinitely, no environmental contaminants, and much less expensive than salmon. Grind it up, mix balsamic vinegar with it, and use it as a non-oil salad dressing for your leafy greens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:23:04 2014 No.5594194 >>5594189 >What is protein

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:34:26 2014 No.5594227 >>5584322 t-bones and lobsters really is more healthier then ground chuck an salmon

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 18:02:12 2014 No.5594438

>>5585366
Meat is healthy. Eating pounds of it daily isn't.
>>5584322
Yes getting decent food with vitamins in them is expensive. A pint of strawberries is nearly twice as much as a party size bag of Doritos. And at Walmart there was water more expensive than soda for fucks sake.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 18:10:33 2014 No.5594451

>>5594438
>And at Walmart there was water more expensive than soda for fucks sake.

I'm sure there was. But you don't have to buy that shit. Tap water is just fine.

>>A pint of strawberries is nearly twice as much as a party size bag of Doritos

Yeah, and it's got twice the nutrition too.

Anonymous Fri Jul 11 18:26:45 2014 No.5594473

>>5594438
Water is cheap. You can get 5 gallons of reverse osmosis water for like 30 cents at those water machines. Reverse osmosis actually takes out some fluoride unlike home filter systems. Or you can just drink from tap. Try cheaper fruits like bananas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 18:33:44 2014 No.5594486 I'm moving out of my parents place in a week and this thread is actually making me feel pretty good about the $300/mo grocery budget I've set.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 18:35:12 2014 No.5594487 >>5584677 yeah but your country has a functional social safety net

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 23:47:23 2014 No.5595285 >>5584991 >>5584620 why didn't the thread end with these?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 23:51:10 2014 No.5595295 >>5586258 you haven't slept in less than 24 hours?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:14:23 2014 No.5595334 >>5594194 What does protein have to do with anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:15:11 2014 No.5595335 >>5595334 it has to do with almost everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:19:16 2014 No.5595345 >>5595335 you can get complete protein plenty of salmon free ways. omega-3's are harder to come by, but avoiding the mercury and potential radiation tends to be worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:22:27 2014 No.5595353 >>5595345 What does salmon have to do with anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:38:41 2014 No.5595383 If you're talking about cheap protein, sardines are cheap as shit, have those purportedly good fish fats, and are generally low in contaminants due to being high in the food chain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 00:43:05 2014 No.5595394 >>5595383 I think you mean low in food chain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:02:10 2014 No.5595442 >>5593594 Shit nigger just use an empty spot in your local park.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:06:30 2014 No.5595449 >>5595394 Probably, I was probably thinking of low as in hierarchy. More things eat them than they eat.

Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:06:58 2014 No.5595451

>>5593594

i know lots of people(well a few) who grow veggies in their apts both inside and on their balconies. i bring some of my plants into the basement in thee winter and have grown tomatoes in my closet before when i really wanted a good tomato out of season

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:14:21 2014 No.5595458 >>5595451 >i bring some of my plants into the basement in thee winter and have grown tomatoes in my closet before when i really wanted a good tomato out of season that's definitely not cost effective

Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:17:22 2014 No.5595463

>>5595458
its better than letting them die and replanting especially things like my lemon tree and the lights dont really use that much electricity especially if you use CFLs instead of HPS or MH bulbs, the 5 gal buckets are damn cheap too as is the soil/medium

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:18:06 2014 No.5595465 >>5595345 Exactly, protein is covered by the rest of your diet. Flax seeds are the cleanest, cheapest source of omega-3 and they serve a dual function of also replacing oil when eating salad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:51:19 2014 No.5595561 >>5584446 the middle is an awful show you should feel really bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 02:08:30 2014 No.5595610 >>5595295 < means less than, > is greater than

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