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>you will never be British and enjoy a pint with your coworkers during lunch hour

Not British by the way. Is it still acceptable to drink during lunch over there?

>> No.5549172

>>5549160
its fine the america

>> No.5549918

>>5549160

Rarely. That's mostly a college thing over here, least in the college I went to, going down the local with some mates for a quick pint. Probably why the tutors tended to put any theory work in the mornings

>> No.5549931

>>5549160
Its common here in the Midwestern part of the US. More than a single beer is considered low class though.

>> No.5550169

>>5549172
>>5549931

It's fine in the northeast too. If it's a busy day and fast food is happening, you won't be seeing anyone ordering a Patron™ margarita at Chipotle™, but if there's time for a real lunch at a legit restaurant, a glass of something isn't uncommon. The difference is, being effete city person, I might order a petit sirah with my $20 bacon cheeseburger burger instead of a beer.

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5550183

>>5550169
Well aren't you fancy. As a small town country boy I tend to order a Dinkey Wheat with my burger.

actually had to google "petit sirah"

>> No.5550204

I love living in The Netherlands. As soon as the sun starts shining everybody goes outside with their beer or wine. It's so normal to just have a drink in the middle of the day, with or without lunch.

If anybody did that back in LA, people would look at you as if you were either an alcoholic, a bumb, or just plain ghetto.

>> No.5550220

>>5549160
Of course, what did you think the point of a ploughman's lunch is?

>> No.5550231

>>5550204
>As soon as the sun starts shining
>The Netherlands
Better be patient, Anon.

>> No.5550255

>>5550231
It's the best weekend of the year.

>> No.5550272

>>5550255
I was told it was rude not to order drinks at restaurants there. Is that true?

>> No.5550274

>Is it still acceptable to drink during lunch over there?

Yes

>> No.5550275

>>5550272
No. How the fuck would that be rude? I guess if you just come and sit at the table and don't order anything, then yeah, that's be rude.

>> No.5550284

>>5550275
Because they would make mony on the drinks not on the food. Anyway, just checking...

>> No.5550287

>>5550284
No. Every restaurant wants people to order drinks. I think maybe the owners care but the staff would probably think, "Great, less for me to do.".

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5550302

>>5550220
>a ploughman's lunch
Oh god, with a nice pint on a summers day.

>> No.5550326

>>5550302
What are those little piles on the bottom left of the plate? They looks like some sort of preserves.

>> No.5550341

>>5550326
Basically yeah, thats britbong pickle.

>> No.5550344

>>5550326
They will be chutneys, pickles and relishes, the acid cuts through the richness of the various cheeses you get in a Ploughmans, which is traditionally, as the name says, for a farmer who would spend all day ploughing fields, so a poor farmer would use things available on the farm like apples and eggs, and long life foods like relishes, pickled onions and cheeses.

>> No.5550345

>>5550341
>>5550344
Sounds tasty. Do you spread it on bread or is it eaten with a spoon. I guess it doesn't really matter but I'm curious about English good culture.

>> No.5550347

>>5550302
was going to order one yesterday at the pub but fuck it, ended up getting a burger instead

>> No.5550349

>>5550344
Actually I've heard that the Ploughman's lunch was an invention of "big cheese" in the 50s as a way of selling more cheese. Although I don't doubt people ate ploughman's lunches in all but name before then.

>> No.5550354

>>5550345
Its amazing in a doorstop cheddar cheese sandwich. Its usually eaten with cheeses and coldcuts, is used on bread or in sandwiches. You wouldnt really eat it with a spoon, but its so tasty I wouldnt be surprised if people did. Its basically cubes/chunks of root vegetables in a sweet and tangy sauce. Very sticky, very moreish

>> No.5550355

>>5550302
I'm an American that lives/works in London for two months a year. The pub down the road from where I work has an incredible ploughman lunch and I usually have a pint with them for lunch. My co-workers that I go to lunch with usually have a pint or two also.

>> No.5550369

>>5550354
Reminds me of the Vidalia onion relish my grandmother used to make. It was mostly a condiment but I once saw a guy mistake it for some sort of soup. He ate a jar or it without ever wondering why it was in a jar.

This thread is making me want to try some English food now. Unfortunately I doubt I'd find good English eats without actually traveling to the UK. Not entirely sure the UK would enjoy having an overly inquisitive American wandering their streets though.

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5550375

>>5550345
It's basically a platter of various cheeses, relishes, an egg, an apple, a few veggies, some bread and since the discovery of the new world, a tomato, all with a nice mug of beer.

You eat it exactly how ever you want, but you probably wouldn't want to just shove a spoon full of relishes in your mouth.

A cheese and relish sandwich is probably as deeply ingrained as the American peanut butter and jelly sandwich is there.

The combination just works so well.

>> No.5550377

>>5550375
I've lived in Britain my entire life and never eaten relish.

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5550379

>>5550354
Yeah, there are leads of varieties. You have piccalilli which is cauliflower pieces in a mustardy sort of sauce, you have Branston pickle relish both smooth and chunky, you have all of the various chutneys we adapted from India with the empire. Sweet or spicy, tangy or mild, there's any sort of combination you could ever want and they all work great with cheeses.

>> No.5550380

>>5550355
One of the finer points in life is doing that during the height of summer.

>> No.5550381

>>5550375
>American peanut butter and jelly sandwich

Never understood why people insist of feeding this to their children here. Most of the time the peanut butter and jelly used is unhealthy and messy, so why give it to children? Personally I prefer nutella and banana.

Do they sell this English relish in stores/online or is it the kind of thing made in house that you can't find or wouldn't want to buy pre-packaged? Around here you can find various salads prepackaged but you really dont trust the quality.

This thread is making me want to visit the UK.

>> No.5550384

>>5550369
>Not entirely sure the UK would enjoy having an overly inquisitive American wandering their streets though
England alone has 300,000 American residents. You aren't exactly unusual to encounter.

Is there any particular type of food that you might want some information on? I'm not the best cook, but I could point you in the right direction.

>> No.5550385

>>5550379
I think eating pieces of cheese by itself is more common in the UK and EU than it is here in the states. For some reason people don't really do it, the exception being cheese platters at social gatherings, which are used primarily because they are easy to eat with your hands.

>>5550380
Thats one of my favorite traditions here. The pub near my house has a large back deck that overlooks a small pond and during the summer they open it up so customers can eat out there and enjoy the weather with a nice cold beer. I think and English Ploughmans lunch would suit the occasion better than an American burger though.

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>>5550377
>I've lived in Britain my entire life and never eaten relish
What in the name of holy hell?

>> No.5550389

>>5550384
All of it really. Not entirely sure how I feel about boiled meats, assuming thats actually a thing, but I'm pretty open minded. The idea of meat pastries is intriguing, and I like that the English eat more cheeses than people in the US tend to. I guess if you could tell me about the some traditional English dishes that would be great.

>> No.5550392

>>5550381
Obviously you can make it yourself, it would probably taste better too, but I don't really have any complaints with the stuff you can buy in the jar.

Here's a recipe from the BBC I just googled:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/piccalilli

I'm not sure of the availability in America, but from what I have been told by our resident Americans in our /brit/ threads on /int/, some of your larger supermarkets have small international food sections that sometimes carry British items. It might be worth checking out.

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5550394

>>5550385
>The pub near my house has a large back deck that overlooks a small pond and during the summer they open it up so customers can eat out there and enjoy the weather with a nice cold beer


Embrace the bong, remove burger.

>> No.5550395

>>5550381
>Do they sell this English relish in stores/online or is it the kind of thing made in house that you can't find or wouldn't want to buy pre-packaged?

Very easy to buy and there are a plethora of different chutneys and relishes available, but of course you could always make your own.

>>5550377

>He has never sat down and has some extra mature country cheddar with vinegary tangy relish on crusty bread with cold cut thick ham slices and fresh tomatoes and lettuce

Give me that and a pint on a clear sky day and I am anyone's.

>> No.5550396

>>5550392
We do have a small British market here with an attached tea house, but I have yet to visit it.
Its kinda hidden in a poorer part of town, not entirely sure why.

Thanks you fine gentleman for all your help. I must now head to work but I will be back later to check on this fantastic thread.

Stay classy, Gents.

>> No.5550397

>>5550389
What do you mean by boiled meats? Like literally just in a pot of water? Because that's not really a thing, however cooking meats in a casserole (which essentially boils them) is a thing and it's fucking amazing, especially like a braised beef casserole. Meats you cook in a casserole is probably my favourite way to have meat, it just becomes to tender, absorbs all the flavours and in chickens case falls right off the bone.

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5550399

>>5550385
>I think eating pieces of cheese by itself is more common in the UK and EU than it is here in the states

Oh really?

>> No.5550401

>>5550389
The only meat i've ever eaten that's been boiled has been ham, and even then i've only ever seen it done in cider and then transferred to an oven afterwards to glaze a little. It's not exactly like people just chuck big bits of meat into water and then just eat it plain from that

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5550407

>>5550389
>boiled meats
I genuinely don't understand where this concept comes from. The only ones I can even think of that boil meat would be the French with their "Pot-au-feu". It just doesn't happen here, maybe a thousand years ago people made pottage which involved boiling anything you could get your hands on due to human waste being used on the crops, but that was common through all of Europe at the time.

Meat and pastry, that's our bread and butter. The pie is probably the British equivalent to the burger. Pies, pasties and other baked goods like sausage rolls are commonly eaten, any type you can think of, any meat or filling, from steak and ale to chicken tikka pies. We even have chain bakeries that sell said pies, pasties and sausage rolls as our closest approximation of McDonalds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_pies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage_roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty


Here's a few wiki links, bear in mind that they really seem to be lacking any real content, so just use it as a starting point. I don;t know if you are interested in fantasy stuff like the Hobbit, but the meal that the Dwarves ate in Bilbos house when they first met uses actual British food, here is a list of things you might want to check out, there are a few pies in it:

http://recipewise.co.uk/tea-in-the-hobbit

And on the same site, some regional recipes:
http://recipewise.co.uk/regional-recipes

I hope this helps you.

>> No.5550408

>>5550380
Unfortunately, I'm usually there during the two shittiest months, weather wise, January and February.

I'm able to replicate a ploughman's in the U.S. - all except for the Branston pickle. I refuse to pay $8 for a tiny jar of it from the import food shop. The Indian food shop near me has some really nice jarred chutneys, however.

>> No.5550412

>>5550395
Stop anon, you are giving me a food erection.

>> No.5550413

>>5550396
Happy to help anyone interested in our food, it's pretty unusual for an American to be positively curious, as opposed to the usual stuff on /ck/.

>> No.5550416

>>5550397
It's an American stereotype that we boil meat, god knows where it came from.

I suspect France had a hand in its creation.

>> No.5550418

People don't tend to do that any more. Liquid lunches have gone out of style.

>> No.5550426

>>5550408
>$8 for a tiny jar of it from the import food shop
Jesus m8, it's probbaly a good idea to just google a recipe at that price.

I didn;t know that you could get real Cheddar, Stilton and Lancashire over there, wouldn't they be just as expensive to have imported, if not more so due to the requirements for refrigeration?

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5550430

>>5550389
Let your imagination run wild when it comes to pies.

>> No.5550434

>>5550426
I live in Western NY where there's an abundance of Wegmans - all of which have extremely well stocked cheese shops. A few days ago I bought some Stilton w/cranberries and Red Leicester. It's usually about ~$8/pound, which is about what a U.S. made Artisanal cheese costs, if not a little less.

>> No.5550444

>>5550430

>Wild boar, Chicken and cranberry with a sage and onion stuffing top

That sounds tasty as fuck. Are these warmed prior to being eaten, or are they eaten at room temperature?

>> No.5550448

>>5550430
those look dryer than the arab desert

>> No.5550450

>>5550434
I'm glad you enjoy them then.

>> No.5550459

>>5550444
Any way you want, they are obviously baked, and you can have them hot out of the oven, eaten cold (a favourite of picnics and snack times) or put back in the oven to be warmed up again.

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>>5550448
No they don't. The boar will be done in the same way a pork pie is, they are far from being dry, the fact that they are cooked in a self contained coating kind of prevents this.

>> No.5550970

>>5550413
I'm barely American. I'm German/Dutch/English/Korean, raised in S. Korea and Japan, then moved to the US.

So, in otherwords, a typical American mutt.

>>5550416
I heard said stereotype on an old TV show with a British character. I've never actually met anyone that says you guys boil meat, generally people think of meat pies and tea when they think of England.

Then again most American, upon hearing that I grew up in Korea, ask me if i've eaten dog. They also constantly confuse the North and the South and people will regularly ask me why my "king" hates the US so much. Your average American doesn't care much about the outside world. America is big enough to hold all their attention.

>> No.5550978

>>5550416
>It's an American stereotype that we boil meat, god knows where it came from.
>I suspect France had a hand in its creation.

Americans suck the cock of French food and French chefs refer to boiling something as cooking it 'English style'.

>> No.5550986

>>5550978
>Americans suck the cock of French food

As an American, I agree wholeheartedly. French food is outrageously overrated. Its 90% cream and butter. I have no idea why fucking wannabe chefs brag about being training in classical French cuisine. I'd be more impressed if they told me they knew how to change the oil in their car.

>> No.5551005

>>5550978
Never trust the French.

>> No.5551018

>>5551005
worse than the damn irish

>> No.5551084

>>5550978

>French chefs refer to boiling something as cooking it 'English style'.

It would make more sense if that was applied to roasting.

We roast all our shit.

>> No.5551089

>>5550986
You do realize not all French cuisine is Parisian street-food right?

Most Americans who can cook fairly competently are most familiar with French food because French chefs systematized cooking, from techniques to flavor pairings, allowing general knowledge of French cooking to translate well into being able to cook food from almost any other culture.

>> No.5551097

>>5551084

This indeed. That's why the traditional French slur for the English is 'les rosbifs'. In the 18th century something like 70% of British households had elaborate clockwork spits for roasting meat in front of the fire. Continental travellers wondered at how the British would eat meat with most of their meals - the kind of luxury which was far beyond the means of even the relatively well off in France.

Oh, and it's Germans who boil their meats.

>> No.5551099

>>5551089
You do realize that you're full of bullshit and hype, right? French food is like the katana of the food world. Overhyped to the point that its damn near mythical.

>> No.5551101

>>5550204
because the sun shines every day in LA you moron

>> No.5551103

>>5551089
>systematized cooking, from techniques to flavor pairings,
>claiming this developed in France and not China
>utterly retarded

>> No.5551105

>>5550326
diced kidneys

>> No.5551106

>>5551089
How are you even able to type with all those french cocks in your mouth and hands? Its like youre wanking so hard you're gonna give someone a rug burn m8.

>> No.5551107

>>5550345
>English good culture
dont delude yourself anon

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5551111

>>5549160
>you will never be British
>mfw

>> No.5551113

>>5551107
Shit that was supposed to say "food culture".
I actually know little to nothing about English social culture, I would assume its similar to all English speaking nations though.

>> No.5551114

>>5550379
Mmmm, yes. I got hooked on Branston pickle while I was visiting the UK, and now eat it all the time. I love it with cheese, or a grilled cheese sandwich, or leftover roasted turkey or chicken, too. Last Thanksgiving, I had everyone eating Branston pickle with their leftover turkey sandwiches, lol.
For any 'Murricans interested, you can get it at World Market, or usually any store that has a Brit section.
Chutney is much more common here, every store usually at least has Major Grey's chutney, and anywhere there's any sort of Indian population there'll be plenty of different chutneys.

>> No.5551115

>>5551107

please, we had an entire thread without people throwing empty insults about other cultures cuisines

>> No.5551116

>>5549160
I'm in a creative field. I can drink at work if I want to. I've been in some working situations where coke and pills openly consumed. Not by the tech guys, but by the creatives. Those days are over for me now (because I'm middle aged, and it would be stupid to drop over from a heart attack because I couldn't resist putting something up my nose). I still drink at work once in a while, depending on the job. Most of the time not, though, because now I'm frequently in a leadership position.

>> No.5551121

>>5551115
Except the French, its seems pretty unanimous that people dislike them.

>> No.5551124

>>5551121
I love the French

>> No.5551125

>>5551103
Someone doesn't understand the evolution of modern cuisine.

>> No.5551127

>>5551125
>someone is sucking french dick and loving it

How about you try and tell me how the french invented cheese and wine.

>> No.5551131

>>5551124
so youre retarded?
i bet you think Anthony Bourdain is super chic also.

>> No.5551132

>>5551113
>english "food" culture.
fixed that for you anon

>>5551115
im british

>> No.5551139

>>5551097
> frogs
> Thinking anyone in the USA or the UK gives a shit what they think about us

>> No.5551140

>>5551125
>doesnt understand that because a country was the first to record doing something doesnt mean they were actually the first to do it.

If it wasn't for the Romans teaching their subjects the importance of record keeping this wouldnt have even happened.

>> No.5551141

>>5551127
no, just modern western cuisine and techniques.

Funny how there are french style culinary schools in asia but no asian culinary schools in the west

>> No.5551146

>>5551141
>implying westerners have the skill to master asian cuisine.

>> No.5551151

>>5551141
[citation needed]

Care to explain why pretty much every chef on earth raves about Japan as the best?

>> No.5551152

>>5551131
fuck off weeb

>> No.5551155

>>5551127
>>5551140
What are you, stupid?
We're not talking about who invented cheese, or wine, or who invented strict record keeping. You can hate the French all you like, but they are the fathers of modern cuisine as we know it. Fucking deal with it.

>> No.5551157

>>5550169
Yeah, it's totally okay in the South as well. Here in Texas, it's actually kind of weird if you don't at least get a beer (I'm not a drinker, so I get crap for it every now and then.) And people who are higher on the job ladder tend to get a lot of spirits (either straight-up liquor or mixed drinks.)

>> No.5551158

>>5551132
>im british

Are you from Moss Side?

>> No.5551159

>>5551151
[citation needed]

>>5551146
because its so hard to cook a dog, make street food, or boil sewer water

>> No.5551162

>>5551158
no im from london

>> No.5551164
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5551164

>>5551151
Here come da weebs
Here come da weebs
Here come da weebs

>> No.5551166

>>5551155
>fathers of modern cuisine as we know it.
>actually believes this hype

You're confusing Escoffier being called the father of modern french cuisine with France being called the father of modern cuisine.

>> No.5551168

>>5551151
>he needs a citation for common knowledge

>> No.5551174

>>5551146
if they are so much better then why have so many of the top asian chefs trained in the west and went to western culinary schools

>> No.5551175

>>5551155
Yeah this is very debatable. 5 minutes of searchig online has yielded numerous opposing answers.

>> No.5551177

>>5551168
>calling it common knowledge when no one agrees with him

the UK is the greatest nation ever, its common knowledge.

>> No.5551178

>>5551177
>no one
i think you mean one troll

>> No.5551179

>>5551174
Why do so many chefs go to Tokyo for inspiration and loose apprenticeships?

Why is it commonly agreed that all great chefs want to die in Japan?

Why have Japanese resturants been awarded more Michelin stars than any other nation?

>> No.5551184

>>5551179
>Why do so many chefs go to Tokyo for inspiration and loose apprenticeships?
citation needed

>Why is it commonly agreed that all great chefs want to die in Japan
citation needed

>Why have Japanese resturants been awarded more Michelin stars than any other nation

because michelin was trying to push tire sales in their country. Look it up its well known

>> No.5551185

>>5551178
>is the one troll
Seriously mate, you're getting obsessed with defending your French ego. Very typical of the franks though, heads so far up your own asses you don't realize the world hates you almost as much as they hate the USA, the difference being the US is powerful enough to actually make a difference globally.

>> No.5551188

>>5551185
I'm American

>> No.5551191

>>5551184
Watching the Food network for a few days.
For serious.

Or just get on netflix, look up that new CNN show that Bourdain hosts, and go to the last episode of season two.
You should love it, Bourdain sucks french dick too, for obvious reasons.

>> No.5551196

>>5551188
Cool. I'm a dragon.

BTW its already been noted that Americans suck french cock needlessly, another American even agreed.

>> No.5551199

>>5551196
>one american said something so its true

>> No.5551200

>>5551188
Me too. I think you're full of shit. Does my opinion matter? Hell no, neither does yours.

>> No.5551201

>>5551199
>one american praised french food
>obviously true

So its one yank, against another yank plus 2-3 brits, maybe an australian.

>> No.5551202

>>5551191
>ever watching food network

>> No.5551203

>>5551166
No, I'm not confused. And while Escoffier is looked on as that now, the modern French style of cooking started well before him, by about 200 years.

>> No.5551204

>>5551199
>is one American saying something
>talking shit about another American saying something

Is this ironic or just stupid?

>> No.5551205

>>5551201
not a yank, southern born and bred

>> No.5551209

>>5551203
>200 years
>compared to the 3000+ years the Chinese have been at it.

It may even be around 5000 years. Documentation gets sketchy that far back.

>> No.5551213

>>5551202
>can't rebut
>acts like a cunt
Want to just surrender now? I'm sure you have a white flag somewhere.

>>5551205
Everyone from across the pond is a yank.

>> No.5551217

>>5551213
>ever surrendering to a bongistani

>> No.5551218

>>5551209
what part of western cuisine dont you understand. No one is saying the chinks havent been cooking longer though youd think after all that time theyd make some improvements. Like eating with something a bit more evolved than 2 sticks

>> No.5551219

>>5551209
That's not modern cuisine, fathead, that's ancient cuisine. You aren't even staying on topic.

>> No.5551220

>>5551217
>Hundred Years War - Part 2: The Reckoning.

>> No.5551222

It's not considered OK to drink at lunch. At least here but that may be due to the fact that I work a shitty factory job in SoCal. Does that really stop me from buying a beer or two and drinking them in my car? Fuck no.

>> No.5551226

>>5551213
>Everyone from across the pond is a yank.
And you wonder why we side with the French.

>> No.5551227

>>5551218
>doesn't realized Confucius made the willing change to chopsticks as a less barbaric alternative to stabbing your food like westerners do

maximum smugness

>> No.5551230

>>5551226
American here
I thought we sided with the French because they helped us fight the British. Also I don't think "yank" means the same as "yankee". But I really have no idea. I live in the exact middle.

>> No.5551233

>>5551220
once again Im american. we've kicked your ass twice and bailed it out several more and well have to do it again one the muslims take over.

>> No.5551234

>>5551218
>Like eating with something a bit more evolved than 2 sticks
Like a four-pronged spear and a fucking sword?

>> No.5551238

>>5551219
>doesn't realize that the Chinese have been developing their cuisine continuously depending on the introduction of new ingredients and techniques.

>> No.5551240

>>5551227
>chopsticks less barbaric
the only thing less than eating with two sticks is eating with your hands (looking at you india)

>> No.5551242

>>5551234
yep

>> No.5551246

>>5551233
Yeah we're not going to help them if they get overrun. They still don't appreciate the last two times we saved them.
At least France holds celebrations in Normandy commemorating our efforts in the war.
Plus they gave us the statue of liberty.
The only thing that I can think of at the moment in regards to gifts from the British would be them burning down our whitehouse.

Though, I still love the Brits. Met many in Iraq and they were all stand up guys, if not a little soft.

>> No.5551259

>>5551240
The entire middle east, african, and a large portion of dirty brown asia does this.

>> No.5551274

>>5551259
who care about those faggots, I say nuke it and well colonize it after the fallout

>> No.5551286

>>5551238
Chinky pls go

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>>5551274
Funny thing is, the British military said that if given full command of operation in the middle east they could have Iraq and Astan under control in 35 years.

35 years is the length of fallout for most nuclear weapons.
>MFW

>> No.5551308

>>5551286
I'm English

>> No.5551315

>>5551308
so youre muslim?

>> No.5551319

>>5551315
fuck off ya cunt
We have less muslims than france, probably less than the US as well.

>> No.5551327

>>5551319
not per capita, and we dont pander to them like you fags do

>> No.5551328

>>5551209

There are numerous Mesopotamian recipes for things like beer, bread, and full on proper dishes that date from over a thousand years before we have any evidence of Ching Chong Ping Pong developing a written language.

>ancient Sumerians 1
>rice pickers 0

>> No.5551335

>>5551328
dude this universe is 13 billion years old you think other cultures didnt evolve and have food culture long before us?

>aliens 1
>earthlings 0

>> No.5551341

>>5551299
The rise of ISIS has really shown the middle-east to be a socially unevolved shithole of backwards people whose only goal is to assert their dominance over others.

Considering every major country now has troubles with Muslim terrorists, even fucking China, that's a good indication that Islamic culture is simply not conductive towards peaceful progress. And at the risk of sounding racist, I wouldn't mind or even be surprised if this eventually turns to glassing "troubled regions".

>> No.5551353

>>5551335
>implying other species actually "eat" "food".

How dare you apply our human context to a non-human intelligence. How arrogant.

>> No.5551354

>>5551335
Are you enjoying your Kep-mok blood ticks, Dr. Lazarus?

>> No.5551362

>>5551328
>There are numerous Mesopotamian recipes
No. There aren't.
We don't even have good records of what the romans ate several thousand years later and they were some of the best record keepers ever.

>> No.5551389

>>5551362
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mesopotamian+recipes&oq=Mesopotamian+recipes&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8

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>>5551362

Nigga please. They wrote everything down on clay and we have shitloads of it. Recipes, letters, receipts. This tablet alone has 25 recipes on it. Don't talk about shit you know literally nothing about.

>> No.5551417

>>5551362
>romans
>several thousand years later

>> No.5551431

>>5551417
Not that guy, but I do believe over 2,800 years qualifies as several, or "more than 2".

>> No.5551433

>>5551362

Oh, and furthermore, the Romans wrote most stuff on wax tablets, and only occasionally on vellum or papyrus because that shit was expensive. Both of those materials degrade, so unsurprisingly very little survives. The Roman writings that we do have are mostly the stuff that later scholars thought it worthwhile to make copies of.

>> No.5551435

>>5550430
If these were available in Murga I think I'd eat them every day. They seem like an amazing invention and I'm sure the American populace would love them. I don't know why they're so rare around here, the most similar common item would probably be pot pies which are a mediocre approximation.

>> No.5551436

I don't drink alcohol anyway. It just doesn't work well with me at all

>> No.5551438

>>5551389
>>5551409
>Regular visitors to this site know that I disagree with many of the published translations and analyses of the food represented in the culinary tablets

ya ok cunts

>> No.5551439

>>5551431
it would have to be atleast 3 to be several

>> No.5551459

>>5551439
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/several

>Don't talk about shit you know literally nothing about.

>> No.5551463

>>5551459
>by your definition 2.00000000001 = several

>> No.5551466

>>5551459
>being more than two

seems to me the first thing more than 2 would be 3

>> No.5551468

>>5551389
>>5551409

>>Regular visitors to this site know that I disagree with many of the published translations and analyses of the food represented in the culinary tablets

>The directions or methods for recipes are usually brief or absent in most Mesopotamian recipes

>> No.5551472

>>5551459
how can 2,800 be several thousand then?

>> No.5551474

>>5551463
>>5551466
not my definition
its the dictionary's definition

dealwithit.jpg

>> No.5551480

>>5551472
"more than 2" thousand.
dont fuck me about mate, im english, we inventing the fucking language.

>> No.5551484

>>5551438

>1 person on the internet
>must be lies

He only thinks that other translators haven't got all the details right. Sumerian isn't as well understood a language as, say, Latin. There are fewer people who can decipher it, and the first translations were only made in the 19th century.

>> No.5551489

>>5551474
its not the definition but your reading comprehension thats the issue

>> No.5551492

>>5551468

Yeah, so the debate here is whether you're just supposed to stick it all in a stew, or pan fry it, or bake it in the oven, or some other shit. Not whether it's a recipe, you fuckwit.

>> No.5551495

>>5551480
but its not more than 2 thousands the next thousand after 2 is 3

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I don't think these kind of pies should be called pies.

>> No.5551501

>>5551492
>gets called out for bunk info
>blame someone else

ya ok cunt

>>5551495
>>5551489
>being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind

fucking yanks cant even english

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>> No.5551504

Drinking it anytime of the day is 100% acceptable in England, provided you do what you're meant to (go to work, pick the kids up, etc etc)

In short, we're by and large a country made up of high functioning alcoholics and I fucking love it.

ENNNNNGGGGEERRRRLLAAAAANNNNDDDD

>> No.5551507

>thread starts
>pretty decent civil discussion for half the thread
>suddenly American-hour start
>thread turns into a shit flinging fest

>> No.5551513

>>5551504
>be british
>don't like alcohol or the feeling of being drunk
>pretty much all social events are about drinking

>> No.5551514

>>5551504
I'm English and avoid English people abroad like the plague

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>>5551507
>MFW its a actually brit(s) ruining the thread

>> No.5551523

>>5550302
i like making those so fucking much, they remind me of a deconstructed sandwich. why can't bars in the states serve ploughmans lunches? shit would be cash, i'd have one every day after work.

>> No.5551529

>>5551501

It's not bunk, you piece of shit-eating kangaroo-fucker. Denying that those are recipes is like denying that the bible is a religious text because somebody thinks that 'thee' should have been translated as 'thou'.

>> No.5551531

>>5551519
Not all of the brits in this thread were acting poorly. This morning I had a nice discussion about English cuisine with a couple of them.

>> No.5551533

>>5551507
>mfw you read the thread and realize the americans were have a nice convo til the brits got a no teeth and went crazy

>> No.5551537

>>5551533
>>5551519
>implying they aren't Australians pretending to be Brits.

>> No.5551538

>>5551529
>bible
>religious text
>not propaganda
topkek.
I'm english btw, we dont kanga.

>> No.5551541

>>5551501
yes and when talking about thousands the next up from 2 is three. chill the fuck out council house

>> No.5551549

>>5551537
Oh right, that was mention last night and this morning.
"Real" Englishmen were calling out Aussie fakers.

>>5551541
This whole debate is remind me of Bill Clintons argument: "what is the definition of "is"".

>> No.5551552

>>5551538

I've just realised that you're probably that same stupid rice-nigger who was trying to argue that the Chinese invented cooking. What's the matter, you so upset about your tiny penis that you have to insist that your slopeheaded ancestors invented everything ever?

>muh celestial people

>> No.5551561

>>5551552
dont give half a fuck about the chinks mate. just dont like the french receiving undo praise.

the chinese did invent the basics behind culinary arts

>> No.5551564

>>5551552
>rice-nigger
theyre called chinegros or blackenese

>> No.5551566

>>5551561
for the east but not for the west

>> No.5551572

>>5551566
no
glorious ancestors invent food

dirty imperialists stole secret food technology

>> No.5551576

>>5551572
well they couldnt have been that glorious if they got their shit stole

>> No.5551577

>>5551114
>Last Thanksgiving, I had everyone eating Branston pickle with their leftover turkey sandwiches
I bet they were apprehensive at first.

>> No.5551580

>>5551576
ALL THE GLORIOUS

you dont question

silly imperialist

>> No.5551597

>>5551561

Jesus, this fucking shit again. Look, people everywhere have tongues, with tastebuds. Every culture ever has 'invented' ideas like flavour pairing and cooking techniques. The various natives of the Americas managed to do it without any contact with East or West. It's not fucking rocket science. The whole idea behind pointing out that Sumerian recipes predate Chinese ones was to show you how much of a fucking retard you were being by insisting that one culture could lay claim to inventing the whole fucking idea of cooking.

Now, shut your idiot whore mouth.

>> No.5551603

>>5551597
fuck you american
without us your nation would still belong to the natives

>> No.5551608

>>5551435
Why don't you follow the American dream and start selling savoury pies? Every recipe under the sun has already been created so you wouldn't even have to do much R&D, just make a few batches and test the market for what the American pallet finds edible.
Step 2?
Step 3: profit.

>> No.5551611

>>5551537
What is with Australia and trolls? They're to trolling what Nigeria is to scam emails. Maybe it's because they celebrate Christmas in the summer

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>>5551499
I personally agree, it's not much of a pie if it isn't fully encased in pastry, but then you get into the territory of saying that cottage and shepherds pies aren't pies.

>> No.5551621

>>5551608
If I had the funding I would do this in a heartbeat. One of my friends actually used to own his own restaurant before he realized there was way more profit in selling weed.

>>5551611
No idea, its the same on /k/ though. Aussies just like to fuck things up I guess.

>> No.5551623

>>5551603

>spells flavor "flavor"

>fuck you American

reading comprehension.

>> No.5551626

>>5551603
>>5551623

flavour*

muh bad.

>> No.5551627

>>5551623
>>5551626
stupid american can't even type

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>>5551626
dam straight youre bad

>> No.5551632

>>5551627
ebin burn m80!!!

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>>5551629
AMEEERRRIICA!
Freedom so hard it'll rip your ass open.

>> No.5551652

>>5549160
If you come into work drunk, you're fired. Gross misconduct, bypasses your three strikes completely. If there's any question of you being drunk and disorderly it's for the police to resolve, since they can breathalyze you and you can't refuse to give a sample.

If you have a drink at lunch and it doesn't leave you incapable of doing your job in a productive and responsible manner, nobody would even know unless they'd been at lunch with you.

Given the image you selected for the OP though I'm surprised you're not asking if it's still OK to eat shit at lunch and grin about it all day while holding press conferences to highlight what a pointless ineffectual racist expenses-fiddling twat you are, but then that's obviously still allowed for some reason, presumably the bloody nanny state or leftists like Thatcher or Mosley or something.

Is it still OK for Republican representatives to engage in bestiality?

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>>5551640
Holy shit this picture just gave me a raging patriot boner.

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>>5551652
>Given the image you selected for the OP though I'm surprised you're not asking if it's still OK to eat shit at lunch and grin about it all day while holding press conferences to highlight what a pointless ineffectual racist expenses-fiddling twat you are, but then that's obviously still allowed for some reason

Labour shill detected, how cute.

>> No.5551687

>>5549160
I used to work for Sony (in San Francisco) and my contract specifically noted that I was allowed one pint of beer (don't remember what alcohol content it specified) during my lunch break.

>> No.5551713

>>5551603

I'm not American, chavscum.

>> No.5551714

>>5549160
I can't think of an instance in any European country where a sensible drink (possibly two) with lunch would be frowned upon in the slightest. I've never even considered it, to be honest, only taken it as a natural thing to do. Better than fizzy sugar water really.

>> No.5551720

>>5551713
who you callin a chav you shitwanker?
my heritage is prestigious as fuck

>> No.5551726

>>5551714
Here in the states it might be frowned upon depending on youre company. Then again this nation was founded by Puritans.

>> No.5551733

>>5551726
>your company
As is whomever you may be dining with.

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>>5551720
Where are you from again?

>> No.5551804

>>5550183
>Olde Main beer

Absolutely disgusting. Go Cyclones, though.

>> No.5551814

I wish I could find more ridiculously hopped US beers in England. They're not my favourite style but sometimes I like a change from the malt heavy styles of British beer, esp in the summer. The only places I can regularly get it is a craft beer pub which has a great selection of both Euro and US beer but so expensive.

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>>5551720
>>5551780

>Being proud of where your parents chose to fornicate

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>>5551816

>> No.5551832

>>5551814
India pale ale maybe?

>> No.5551858

>>5551821

>Russians still put first object in orbit
>Russians still put first man in space
>Russians put a woman in space before USA put a man

Nothing to be proud of or regret if you didn't have a hand in it.

>> No.5551864

>>5551814
Man, the must have tap that makes me think of summer is Fuller's ESB. God damn, that stuff hits the nerve when it's hot. I gravitate towards bitter and weizenbock in summer for some reason.

>> No.5551869

>>5551720

Yeah, I'll bet they're the third-richest family on your council estate.

>> No.5553659

>>5551177
>its