/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5513969]

>claims to have a healthy diet
>eats dairy

[Anonymous No.5513970]

>considers him or herself a reasonable and mature adult
>tries to start shit on anonymous chinese cartoon boards

[Anonymous No.5513976]

>>5513969
nobody claims that, though. the only people who consume dairy are indoctrinated murricans and weight lifters (who naturally know nothing about being healthy)

[Anonymous No.5513983]

Butter is one of the healthiest things you can consume.

[Anonymous No.5513985]

milk keeps me mentally healthy because mama nostalgia

[Anonymous No.5513989]

>>5513976
>the only people who consume dairy are indoctrinated murricans and weight lifters
Nope.
/thread

[Anonymous No.5513991]

>>5513989

>samefagging your thread to start an argument

you're fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.5513997]

What exactly is unhealthy in dairy products?

[Anonymous No.5514002]

>>5513997
what about you use your own brain for once?

WOULD you rly drink milk from other mammals if it werent packaged and wrapped up for you in a Supermarket?, you drank milk from your mommas tits when u were a kid and now when you are an adult you want to drink milk from another species????... what the hell is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.5514007]

>>5514002
How is that different from consuming any other part of another species?
If it wasn't beneficial, why did Humans adapt by becoming lactose tolerant?
You are probably all jelly lactose intolerants who crave cheese more than anything

[Anonymous No.5514020]

>>5514007
good that cheese doesnt contain any lactose,because the bacteria fukin Digest it but nice try ,maybe u shud study some simple biology next time.
and btw im also happen to be vegan so im not eating any other parts of animals anyways.
It just doesnt make sense to suck on cow titts, if u cant understand this then you are truly an idiot and btw humans adapt lactose tolerance only because else THEY WUD FUCKIN DIE.
its like rat poisen just because u can drink some Drops,doesnt mean u shud actually drink it.

[Anonymous No.5514023]

>>5513969

Unprocessed raw organic local-family-farm-raised farmer's market goat milk master race

[Anonymous No.5514027]

>>5514023
just a fancy way of saying "poisen", good luck mate

[Anonymous No.5514031]

OP here.

If you really want to know more about how Dairy is toxic for your body, email me.

[Anonymous No.5514072]

>>5514031
FUCK OFF. GO SHIT UP ANOTHER BOARD. YOU ARE SHIT. YOUR LIFE IS SHIT. YOUR FAMILY HATES YOU, AND IF THEY DON'T THEY ARE SHIT TOO.

[Anonymous No.5514076]

>>5514007
because it's specifically baby food, we're not babies, and especially not cow babies
humans did not become lactose tolerant, people who consume dairy products frequently when they are supposed to be outgrowing them will continue to produce the enzymes needed to break it down; the actual norm is to be lactose intolerant as an adult. that's why so many people THINK that they're lactose intolerant, because they are, and it's not what they thought it was, and they keep on keepin on, forcing lactose on their system bc it's not completely self destructing, so "I must not actually be lack toast and tolerant right? hurr durr"

[Anonymous No.5514089]

>>5514076
>If you consume dairy, your body will produce enzymes needed to break it down
>this is not normal

do you know how stupid you sound?

[Anonymous No.5514093]

>>5514076
>humans did not become lactose tolerant, people who consume dairy products frequently when they are supposed to be outgrowing them will continue to produce the enzymes needed to break it down;

But that's wrong. Lactase activity in humans is mediated in the MCM6 gene, in which East Africans and Northern Europeans have developed adaptations that allow for continued consumption of milk. The Maasai people traditionally lived on raw cow's blood and milk exclusively, for example.

[Anonymous No.5514094]

> claims to have a healthy diet
> doesnt eat dairy

[Anonymous No.5514098]

>>5514093
hush, leave this thread while you still retain your sanity.
Let it die, and let all this madness be forgotten.

[Anonymous No.5514099]

>ITT buttmad shitskins with piss poor genetics

Sorry my people invented animal husbandry and therefore an unlimited supply of filtered hydration that has protein, vitamins, calcium, and probiotics. ;)

[Anonymous No.5514104]

>>5514089
you're supposed to grow out of them, like your baby teeth
>>5514093
two populations developed adaptations that allowed them to comfortably drink milk after adolescence, implying that it is not a normal thing for humans

wow, you guys sure showed me

[Anonymous No.5514105]

>>5514104
>all humans are exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.5514107]

>>5514104
> adaptations
> not normal

You do realize that adaptations are what drives evolution, right? That adaptations are how we ended up with large brains, with blue eyes in some populations, with some populations having higher red blood cell-counts to live in higher elevations?

>you're supposed to grow out of them, like your baby teeth

If that was true, human populations wouldn't have developed an ability to produce lactase in adulthood, because adaptations are necessarily advantageous in order to succeed.

[Anonymous No.5514109]

>>5514104
Tell me. Who says you're "spowzda" grow out of it?

[Anonymous No.5514115]

>>5514107
>because adaptations are necessarily advantageous in order to succeed.
peacock tails sure are advantageous! and bees dying when they use their only method of defense! and i'm sure it's super fun for moths to run into fires, because they evolved to take directions from the moon and stars! oh, and i'm sure the babirusa's tusks doing this is useful to it somehow!

[Anonymous No.5514116]

>>5514109
anatomy and physiology

[Anonymous No.5514122]

>>5514116
Well my anatomy and physiology says otherwise.
We should put our anatomies in a ring and have them fight. I wonder which one would win?

[Anonymous No.5514125]

>>5514115
>babirusa

That only happens if they don't wear them down from regular activity. Their ability to grow quickly while in regular use is an adaptation.

sickle-cell anemia also has negative effects, but is a positive adaptation to malaria and thus is marginally advantageous in certain populations.

>peacock tails

What is "attracting a mate", Alex?

>bees dying when they use their only method of defense

Most bees and wasps do not die when they sting you, that's only really true of the worker honey bee which isn't found on all continents. Moreover, this only happens when they sting thick-skinned mammals, they can sting other things (e.g., invading insects) just fine without dying.

>and i'm sure it's super fun for moths to run into fires, because they evolved to take directions from the moon and stars!

The difference being that the adaptation for dairy consumption *is precisely* for dairy consumption. It's a genetic difference that allows for lactase maintenance after adulthood, which is *only* useful for dairy products. It's not as if the ability to eat dairy is a secondary side effect to a different adaptation.

[Anonymous No.5514130]

Holy shit are people actually this dumb. Go back to /pol/ with your tinfoil hat bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5514138]

>>5514122
>Well my anatomy and physiology says otherwise.
>all human beings are exactly the same
>>5514125
>That only happens if they don't wear them down from regular activity
>lactose tolerance only occurs from regular milk consumption
>What is "attracting a mate", Alex?
>what is evading predators? why is it not advantageous to give up mobility for sexual agency? hmm, i wonder
I actually did not know that part about bees, thank you for teaching me something today
You're right about that! That point was less about lactose tolerance and more about your childish and simplistic view that genes can somehow decide what is necessary, and that what is bred for is what is always what is advantageous, rather than it being a completely willy-nilly system where some advantageous traits are propagated by chance, but most traits are neutral, a hindrance, or even just completely useless

[Anonymous No.5514143]

>implying processed diary has something to do with actual diary

/thread

[Anonymous No.5514144]

>>5513969
>claims to have a healthy diet
>cuts out broad categories of food

[Anonymous No.5514159]

>thinks they're healthy
>is not regularly consuming mammalian tit excretions
>not augmenting their immune system with exogenous bacteria from a healthy mammalian specimen

[Anonymous No.5514246]

>>5514159

all store bought milk is pasteurized....this kills the bacteria...

[Anonymous No.5514319]

>>5514002
yes, I would, and I have. I have milked cows myself; stop assuming shit.

[Anonymous No.5514331]

>people who think animal products have some magical property

[Anonymous No.5514729]

>>5514002
>Asks a question
>WHY DON"T YOU KNOW EVERYTHING
Angry from a protein deficiency?

[Anonymous No.5514740]

>>5513969
>he read some stuff online and thinks he knows everything

[Anonymous No.5514906]

>>5513969
ITT: regular milk drinking, meat eating omnivores trolling each other.

[Anonymous No.5514912]

I love fermented unpasteurized dairy; extremely soured and bubbling, it tastes like how love feels :3

[Anonymous No.5514965]

>>5513969
Trying to stay within the boundaries is no easy feat on a seasonal basis.

[Anonymous No.5514994]

I really can't believe people are so anti-dairy, many of my ancestors thrived on it.

[Anonymous No.5515231]

>>5514965
Why are you crossing out random bits of food?

[Anonymous No.5515233]

>>5514994
And they all died. Stop eating dairy you fool. Everyone who has ever drank dairy will one day die.

[Anonymous No.5515240]

>>5515233

[Anonymous No.5515246]

I survived exclusively on milk as a baby, why am I not allowed to drink milk now?
>baby food
Is just mashed up normal food that's easy to digest.

[Anonymous No.5515634]

>>5514965
explain the crossouts?
>no cooked eggs
>no poultry except for duck or goose
>no shellfish
>muffins yes, pretzels no
>no bananas or pineapple

Also I know there is some problem with soy and estrogen, but why are soybeans okay, in that case?

[Anonymous No.5515640]

>>5515246
cow milk isn't human milk, for one thing -- the nutritional profile is different. also industrial cows got all sorts of nasty shit in them.

[Anonymous No.5515641]

>>5513970
>has picture of Jim
>labels it Dwight

[Anonymous No.5518120]

bump

[Anonymous No.5518121]

>>5518120
why the fuck would you bump this.

[Anonymous No.5518134]

>>5515634

>Also I know there is some problem with soy and estrogen

You don't know that, you've only heard it. It's a myth people made up to disparage soy

[Anonymous No.5518139]

>>5518134
You don't know that, you've only heard it. It's a myth people made up to keep people using soy

[Anonymous No.5518144]

>>5518139

>You don't know that

No, I do, because I've actually looked into it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224

The only thing soy consumption is associated with in the medical literature is a reduced risk of cancer. This is scary to meat and dairy producers, whose products are associated with increased cancer risks among other things, so they make shit up about the competition.

[Anonymous No.5518148]

>>5518144
>i did a google search so i know things

[Anonymous No.5518156]

>>5518148

>science is dumb

[Anonymous No.5518157]

>>5518144
>There is no evidence in the medical literature that soy protein isolate is bad for humans, compared to other forms of soy
>compared to other forms of soy

[Anonymous No.5518158]

>>5518157

>The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.

[Anonymous No.5518161]

>>5518158
>its doesnt do this one thing so it doesnt do anything

[Anonymous No.5518164]

>>5518134
I bet you think eating meat is murder

[Anonymous No.5518170]

>>5518161

That's the thing everyone's concerned about, what else are you afraid of?

[Anonymous No.5518175]

>>5518164

Not legally murder, but it is inarguably immoral

[Anonymous No.5518184]

>>5518175
top kek

[Anonymous No.5519322]

>>5515634
>explain the crossouts?
I just do not like the stuff
I do not live in the tropics so fuck tropical fruit.

[Anonymous No.5519324]

>claims to not be a faggot
>bitch about certain foods on /ck/

[Anonymous No.5519365]

>>5518175
No, it isnt

[Anonymous No.5519400]

>I'm so alone
>Someone please find me funny on the internet
>Help

[Anonymous No.5519404]

>>5518175
Go look up the word "inarguably" in a dictionary.

[Anonymous No.5519422]

>claims to be a human
>is a lactose-intolerant untermensch

[Anonymous No.5519435]

>>5515231
Those are the things they don't like.

[Anonymous No.5519552]

>>5513969

the average vegan.

>pic related

[Anonymous No.5519570]

>>5514965

wrong!

[Anonymous No.5519579]

>>5519570
>wrong!
>keto
So the answer is cancer AWESOME!

[Anonymous No.5519586]

>>5514020
bad troll 1/19 made me reply

[Anonymous No.5519592]

>>5519579

glucose feeds cancer. that's the diet you're on...

cancer cells CANNOT USE KETONES as a source of energy.

ketogenic diets starve cancer to DEATH.

>inb4 b-but my totally unbiased vegan study says....

[Anonymous No.5519598]

>>5514099
>>5514099
>animal husbandry
Confirmed you do like sucking donkey dick.

[Anonymous No.5520517]

>>5518121
I wanted the bump

[Anonymous No.5520669]

How did this anti-dairy FERVOR start? Doesn't seem like something to get upset about, you know?

[Anonymous No.5520851]

>>5514007
>am lactose intolerant
>not consuming cheese anyways, goddamn cheese is good.

[Anonymous No.5520958]

>>5520669

activists changing their tactics, instead of attacking the industry directly and showing how shitty it is, which you can now get jail for apparently, they're attacking the market. get people to stop drinking so much milk and the industry will suffer.

At least that's why it happened elsewhere. Here specifically it's because it creates arguments and generally annoys the shit out of everyone.

[Anonymous No.5522572]

>>5520958
>activists changing their tactics

[Anonymous No.5522595]

>>5520669
Hormones and antibiotics causing early puberty in children, lactose intolerance, poor nutritional value in general, and finally (if you even care) how dairy cows are treated. Bovine leukemia and pus in your milk is just a bonus.

[Anonymous No.5522600]

>>5520669
Jews, man.

Jews.

They know milk to white people is like spinach to Popeye, also it's a source of hydration that doesn't calcify your pineal gland with flouride so you can't view the Jew's true reptilian form on the Astral Plane.

But I digress, time to be further conditioned to helping the google botnet identify house numbers. I did it again, Rabbi! Am I a good goyim now??

[Anonymous No.5522604]

>>5513985
Do you really remember what breast milk tastes like?

[Anonymous No.5522626]

Just ate a turkey and aged swiss sandwich with honey mustard. Yum yum dairy.

[Anonymous No.5524017]

>>5522604
not really maybe I should give it another shot soon

[Anonymous No.5524523]

>>5513976
>weight lifters (who naturally know nothing about being healthy)

were you bullied?

[Anonymous No.5524536]

>>5513976
sup sceak

[Anonymous No.5524854]

>>5522600
so... we all just gonna let this slide? No one going to address the mind-controlling jew-reptiles?

Though this house-number captcha is totally operant conditioning, obviously...

[Anonymous No.5524900]

>Lives in Wisconsin
>Cheese

[Anonymous No.5526519]

>>5524523
I was the bully and it felt great ... it still feels incredible as a matter of fact.

[Anonymous No.5526549]

>>5514002

I eat their flesh, wear their skin, use their hooves for glue and hair for a brush. I eat their eggs and I eat their children. Why would I have anything against drinking milk?

[Anonymous No.5526567]

>>5515641

[Anonymous No.5528432]

>>5519592
Link to study that is not biased please.

[Anonymous No.5528717]

>>5514023
oooh yeah, the unmodified goat diarhoea in that milk is the cure for all cancer. And on the plus side it tastes putrid.

[Anonymous No.5530728]

bump

[Anonymous No.5530739]

>>5526549
You, I like you.

[Anonymous No.5531884]

>he is lactose intolerant
>therefore he is most likely not White

opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.5531916]

>>5514031
Fuck you OP. I shouldn't have to email your ass when you intentionally start a thread contesting the health of dairy products.

[Anonymous No.5531920]

>>5530739
You, I don't like you. Go back to reddit.

[Anonymous No.5531922]

>>5514138
Okay, so with that said, what makes dairy specifically harmful on it's own?

[Anonymous No.5531927]

>>5515233
Everyone dies you dumb fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.5531930]

>>5531927
this is what fedoras actually believe

[Anonymous No.5531931]

>>5519592

Glucose comes from plant foods or from synthesis from protein (if you're low-carbin' it); it isn't possible to not have glucose in your system. It's like saying "blood transports nutrients that allow tumors to grow, so it's bad to have blood."

The kicker is that whole plant food sources of glucose contain cancer-fighting compounds while meat contains cancer-causing compounds.

[Anonymous No.5531941]

>>5531920
based

[Anonymous No.5532113]

>>5531931
not that guy but this is true. glucose is energy of life. however i want to note that cancer feeds off of iron, so yeah..

anyway i want a citation on how meat causes cancer. not talking about CAFO shit and mcdonalds ground meat. i mean real healthy beef with a proper diet.

you don't have any? oh right... let me also help you along that it matters how you cook your meat. grilling causes a lot of oxidation therefore it will fuck you up. if you also cook your meat in PUFAs it will fuck you up (free radicals). same with all these faggots thinking they can cook with olive oil above 200F.

[Anonymous No.5532149]

>>5532113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuRMm-a6mo

[Anonymous No.5532205]

>>5513969
>Claims to eat a healthy diet
>pulls stick from their ass
>lives happily ever after

Pic related: Not a dairy product

[Anonymous No.5532669]

>believing milk has all those proteins, minerals, and vitamins just cause the label says so
>not knowing that the milk on the supermarkets have expired several times and gone through pasteurization probably more than 2 times in order to make them suitable for human consuption again
>not realizing this process actually takes away and destroy most proteins and shit claimed tp be beneficial that milk is supposed to have
>not understanding all you are drinking is some while fluid that once was actual milk
>but hurrdurr muh superior genes

[Anonymous No.5532806]

>>5532669

>The Weston A. Price Foundation is a major advocate for the consumption of unpasteurized milk, or raw milk, in the United States. One of its main goals is to remove health regulations that require the pasteurization of milk products so that raw milk can be legally purchased in all states. Supporters of this campaign believe the pasteurization process removes or destroys beneficial parts of raw milk, leading to a less healthy product that is associated with numerous diseases such as allergies, cancer, and heart disease.[13]
>The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Food and Drug Administration disagree with this assessment, noting that the pasteurization process "does not significantly change the nutritional value of milk" and that consumption of raw milk poses a "severe health risk". They also point out that prior to the widespread use of pasteurization, many diseases were commonly transmitted by raw milk, while they made up less than 1% of food and water contamination disease outbreaks by 2005[14][15] The director of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration division of plant- and dairy-food safety, John Sheehan, called the organization's claims on the health benefits and safety of raw milk "false, devoid of scientific support, and misleading to consumers"[2]