/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5474860]

Food pics from Japan.

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[Anonymous No.5474947]

>>5474888
mapo tofu always looks so delicious but I don't really like tofu

[Smith the CIA Agent No.5474984]

>>5474947
then substitute it with I dunno, another protein.

[Anonymous No.5475557]

Spaghetti Napolitan.
It's a Japanese dish flavored with tomato ketchup.

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>>5475557
lel

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>>5475870
how pretentious do you have to be to have a menu written in french in japan
next fucking level

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>>5475873
>huehue something is pretentious because it's in another language

your lack of passport is showing

[Anonymous No.5475888]

>>5475873
Predominantly French and Japanese but also with odd English phrases they think are fancy too. "Beautiful Harmony" is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect on a kawaii Engrish stationery set.

[Anonymous No.5475891]

>>5475887
I speak four languages m8

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>>5475893
that steak doesn't look very good. whaty is that peanut sauce? or some ginger shit on it... bleh. Also looks kind of "bland"... looks like a sizzler steak.

[Anonymous No.5475914]

>>5475891

list them in order of most to least pretentious

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>>5475898

it says on the menu mr. I speak five languages, can't you read it yourself?

[Anonymous No.5476085]

>>5475873

The Japanese are a pretentious people

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[Anonymous No.5476128]

>>5475898
Dude it's either heart rump steak or fillet at a glance.
Gonna say 10oz, med-rare.

I'm going all in, Bob.

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[Anonymous No.5476154]

>>5476128
>10 oz

4 oz at most

[Anonymous No.5476218]

>>5476154
I think if I halved that I could fit it in two 1oz shot glasses.

[Anonymous No.5476223]

>>5476154
if that

[Anonymous No.5476979]

Japanese girls eating is my fetish

[Anonymous No.5477108]

>>5476154

Have you considered that the plate is just very big?

[Anonymous No.5477113]

>5477108
the mushroom and the fork would be gigantic if that was the case. if the fork is anything to go by, that piece of meat is tiny

[Anonymous No.5477176]

>>5477108
Then this would be one big-ass mushroom sitting in the back.
I'd say this is just one course.

[Anonymous No.5477186]

>>5477108
look at the silverware bud. giants dont exist. trust me

[Anonymous No.5477422]

Unagi.

[Anonymous No.5477932]

tonkatsu.

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[Anonymous No.5477983]

>>5474866
>>5474888
>>5477940

seeing stuff like this in these Japanese food thread makes me curious.
now i'm a big guy, not skinny at all, and have in a stoned condition eaten an entire family trough from kfc to myself (12p, i felt disgusted), but these portions (perhaps not represented to a great degree in this thread) are mindblowing!

like 5 plates/bowls to an individual, or are they sharing platters at restaurants?

[Anonymous No.5478015]

>>5477983
> like 5 plates/bowls to an individual, or are they sharing platters at restaurants?

yeah, silly. of course they're sharing. Japanese people and many other asians tend to have like 40 little plates on the table, and everyone just grabbing with chopsticks and putting on own plate.

everything in asian quisine is bite-size so its easy to share. tehy even cut up steaks... so. yeah. sharing.

see? You should feel disgusted that you actually seriously considered that these huge plates were made for a single person, you fat fuck :D

[Anonymous No.5478019]

>>5478015
even the rice is sticky so it can be picked up with chop sticks. It's like their whole culture is based on one stubborn notion that FORKS ARE FUCKING STUPID!

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>>5478404
>>5478400
looks like it was made on a dirty grill with way too much oil

[Anonymous No.5478441]

>>5478422
looks to me like it was smoked/planked

[Anonymous No.5478444]

>>5478422
>way too much oil

that is hokke or as baka gaijin know it as, "greeling". the flesh has a lot of fat in it. have you ever eaten a fish that wasn't gorton's frozen fish fillets, anon-kun?

[Anonymous No.5478493]

>>5478444
Silly baka gaijin don't even distinguish between types of fish. They just say "fish" where it's cod, haddock, tuna, tilapia, or anything else. Silly American baka so not kawaii!

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>>5477935
What are you, 6?

[Anonymous No.5478615]

>>5475873
The Japanese have a hardon for the French. They believe the French are a paragon of culture and sophistication.

[Anonymous No.5479435]

>>5478493
ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

[Anonymous No.5479475]

Tarako spaghetti.
Spaghetti mixed with sauce of cod roe, butter, salt, pepper, and lemon juice.

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[Anonymous No.5480860]

serve weemobus

[Anonymous No.5481193]

>>5477983
Two of the pictures you're replying to have been taken at very misleading angles. Those bowls would probably fit into the palm of your hand if not a bit bigger.

Source: Been to japan, also good friends with a lot of east asiana

[Anonymous No.5481195]

>>5474860
>everything served on an individual plate/bowl

That rustles my autism. I like to use as few dishes and utensils as possible when cooking.

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>>5478019
>Amerifat being this mad

why do you still use your hands to eat food if you have a spoon or a fork???

[Anonymous No.5481308]

>>5481305
that was a joke, not anger. you're forgiven.

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>>5474860

>Japanese food
>Good

Pick one

[Anonymous No.5482174]

>>5475873
are you retarded, ignorant or just trolling?

if you go to a french restaurant in new york, that has a menu written in both english and french, would you think anything of it?

so when you go to a french restaurant in tokyo that has the menu written in both french (the cuisines language) and japanese (the language of 99% of visitors), why would you think that is pretentious?

[Anonymous No.5482177]

>>5482174

but things outside my comfort zone make me feel uncomfortable. weeaboos! pretentious!!!

[Anonymous No.5482182]

Great 盛り付け。

>>5482165
この画像は手鞠寿司のような愛らしさがあるが寂しさがある。
This picture is pretty look Temari but saddly Sushi.
こう感じるのはわたしが関西の人間だからだろうか。
This feeling is where's feeling? Kansai?

[Anonymous No.5482197]

>>5482165
would you eat the tail here?

[Anonymous No.5482202]

>>5474860
Fuck you and your stupid shit cunt of a thread. It's fucking insane to post the same shit for this long.

[Anonymous No.5482534]

Homemade tai-meshi (boiled rice with (minced) sea bream).

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>>5476128
>>5475898

it's beef fillet with a five pepper sauce.

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[Anonymous No.5483432]

>>5478615
The Japanese are westaboos in general. Not specific to France

Still, you can't exactly blame them. Their culture is a bit dog shit

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[Anonymous No.5483461]

>>5475886
How much did that dry piece of overcooked fish cost?

[Anonymous No.5483473]

>>5483461

It's probably La Tour D'Argent. From the website:

Course dinner :
JPY18,000 and up
* Tax and service charge not included.

So, a little under $200 without the wine.

Food pics from Japan guy is known to be pretty well off if you've been on /ck/ for long.

[Anonymous No.5483623]

>>5475898

it's a fuckin sirloin

[Anonymous No.5483630]

>>5483623

no, it's fillet.

[Anonymous No.5483638]

>>5483630
you mean tenderloin

[Anonymous No.5483668]

>>5483473
In La Tour D'Argent, photography is prohibited.
This was an invitation of the furnishers. The place is one of the event rooms. It was free.
The meal of La Tour D'Argent is greater.

[Anonymous No.5483673]

>>5483638

doesn't matter.

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[Anonymous No.5483770]

I figure this is probably a good place to ask...

I have been subsisting for a couple years now on my white subrurbanite take on SE Asian food. New sushi place opened up nearby and I gave it a try. It was great. Too bad nothing ever lasts in that location.

Anyhow, starcrossed restaurant has given me cause to question how you into Japanese cuisine. Anyone have a go-to website or a cookbook they consider to be particularly noteworthy?

[Anonymous No.5483788]

>>5483770
http://www.amazon.com/Washoku-Recipes-Japanese-Home-Kitchen/dp/1580085199

[Anonymous No.5484747]

>>5483788

Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5484952]

>>5483770
http://www.justonecookbook.com/recipe-index/

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>>5482174
Yes, I would certainly find that pretentious, especially if it were written in French first, then English, rather than English with French second.

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>>5474947
I don't like tofu either but every time i see a different tofu dish I give it a try.

Tofu have very little taste and the texture is like some sort of gelatin so there should be some way to make it taste good.

So far the best ones for me were the ones where it was dried with a lot of flavorful stuff like grilled with miso.

[Anonymous No.5486179]

>>5485138
Oh look! Chinese restaurant in America have the dishes written in Chinese and English! How pretentious!

[Anonymous No.5486187]

>>5477983
Usually people share. A good place for eating a lot for little money are those gyudon restaurants like Sukiya, Yoshinoya like int he picture. Those are the individual portion sizes available.

If you really eat a lot there are some "all you can eat" restaurants and some places have massive or ultra spicy dishes that if you eat it all you don't pay.

[Anonymous No.5486207]

>>5486179
But I can afford Chinese food therefore it is not pretentious.

[Anonymous No.5486217]

>>5486187
Is food from places like Sukiya and Yoshinoya good or is there some sort of distinct difference between those places and going to local one off restaurants?

[Anonymous No.5486233]

>>5486217
They are good, they are Japanese fast-food and in my opinion they are faster, tastier and healthier than burgers. Not that I dislike burgers, I love them too but if I had to resort to fast-food often I would rather eat gyudon most of the times than burgers.

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>>5475896
What is this?

[Anonymous No.5487836]

>>5486985
I got you beat.

[Anonymous No.5487873]

>>5477932
>tonkatsu.
Dunno why this is popular. Thick tough pork is not schnitzel.

[Anonymous No.5487881]

>>5487873
>tough
Stop overcooking it? Pork is usually more tender than chicken.

[Anonymous No.5487883]

>>5487881
My point, idiot. Deep frying a slice of untenderized thick pork = high heat dumb. Tonkatsu is always chewy and tough.

[Anonymous No.5487884]

>>5487873
Have you not eaten a delicious tonkatsu?

[Anonymous No.5487892]

>>5487883
Again, you're overcooking it.

Also, turn the fucking heat down if you think the heat is too high. Deep fryers are usually adjustable, and if it's not then use a fucking pot or deep pan with oil. Or just pan fry it.

Seriously, if you can't figure out how to fry a pork cutlet then you don't belong anywhere near a kitchen.

[Anonymous No.5487897]

Nighttime snack.
Good night.

[Anonymous No.5487901]

>>5487883
dude
tonkatsu is soft and yummy
just smack it around with back of knife, literally every recipe i've seen says to tenderize.

[Anonymous No.5487979]

Kasutera.

It's a kind of cake, from Portugal in 16th century.

[Anonymous No.5488954]

>>5487883

nigga why would being thinner make it less likely to overcook u dumb

[Anonymous No.5488967]

>>5487835

white chocolate and mascarpone pearl with 'sauce hon-kuzu aux fleurs' which i guess is some kind of scented arrowroot based gel and lemon sorbet

and i guess maybe an arlette or something underneath

it's from the menu here:

>>5475870

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>>5475870
They should hire someone who actually speaks French to write that stuff.

[Anonymous No.5490556]

>>5481308
>merely pretending
nice ruse 0/10

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>>5475557

Do you eat spaghetti with chopsticks?

[Anonymous No.5490816]

>>5490814
chopsticks are pretty alright for noodles
not ideal but not terrible either

[Anonymous No.5491155]

>>5490814
The people who have been making noodle-like food for over 4000 years eat their noodle-like food with chopsticks

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>>5475896
That looks terrible what is it?

[Anonymous No.5492010]

>>5492007
Ice cream?

[Anonymous No.5492015]

>>5492007

This has been answered multiple times in this thread.

[Anonymous No.5492055]

>>5492007

nigga i answered the post a few posts up you better not be doing the same thing you did with sangria in a previous thread

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[Anonymous No.5492827]

>>5479475
Being an American of proud Italian descent, I have to say that looks and sounds actually amazing.

[Anonymous No.5492856]

>>5474860

Still invading Pearl Harbor, huh?

"One God, one tribe, do you really want to die?"

[Anonymous No.5493393]

Sea foods salt yakisoba.

[Anonymous No.5493415]

>>5474860
Chankonabe, prior to cooking.

[Anonymous No.5493433]

>>5477983
It depends, just like anywhere.

Generally, I find that セット meals are pretty big for their price, so long as they're outside of an izakaya.

School lunch is also pretty huge, size wise; and most independent cafeterias tend to run the same way.

Gyudon places are variable, and the price goes up rapidly.

Curry places almost invariably have large portions, as do ramen joints.

Also:
Saba tataki from my evening at the Chanko Hall.

[Anonymous No.5493444]

>>5493433
GYUDON POWER RANKING
1. TOKYO CHIKARA MESHI
2. MATSUYA
3. SUKIYA
....
9001. yoshinoya

[Anonymous No.5493447]

>>5486187
Can you give the name of any of these restaurants where if you eat it all its free? I live in Tokyo and love spicy food.

[Anonymous No.5493451]

>>5478400
Ah, homey, you're a man after my own tastes.

I had a grilled akamizukana a week ago at an izakaya. Fucking marvelous

Pic:
串揚げセット
(Kushiage set) - fried things on skewers.

If memory serves, I had ハンバーグ(hamburger steak), tendon, okra, ジャが芋 (Potato), and Quail Egg.

[Anonymous No.5493464]

>>5486217
Sukiya, Yoshinoya, and Matsuya are chain gyuudon; it's basically fast food for people on the go.

It's cheap, filling, quick, and widely available. They're generally open very late, if not 24 hours.

It's healthier than McDonalds; but it's beef simmered in fish-stock, soy sauce, mirin, onions, garlic, and ginger over white rice - so it's not like you're eating a salad or anything.

But I want to point out that Japan actually knows how to do chains right. The quality of service and product are generally high, and they're usually not staffed by jerk-off "I don't give a fuck teens".

At least in my experience.

Pic:
水ギョーザ (boiled shrimp dumplings with ponzu sauce)

[Anonymous No.5493472]

>>5487873
Tonkatsu is sometimes made with a thin cutlet, actually.

That's how my local nikuya makes theirs.

Even on the thicker pieces, though,I've only ever had tough tonkatsu from a convenience store.

Pic:
かきフライ - Fried Oysters!

They were great; but I will say that they never clean them properly here. This batch was fine, but I've had poor experiences in the past.

[Anonymous No.5493482]

>>5493444
My favorite is homemade (since it's simple as fuck to make), but Matsuya is my favorite chain.

So how do you like yours?

[Anonymous No.5493491]

>>5493451
Aaa ah beg pardon.

There was no okra that night, it was lotus root.

I had been drinking; details remain hazy.

[Anonymous No.5493503]

Are you sure this isn't a YCYL thread? @.@

[Anonymous No.5493507]

>>5478493
Get that dumb shit outta here anon.

[Anonymous No.5493511]

>>5474860

I have a question...

When theres so many bowls and plates, which order do you eat them it? I say go clockwise and put stuff that goes together together, but that's just intuition, does anyone actually know?

[Anonymous No.5493518]

>>5482197
with shrimp that isn't fried on sushi I don't think so. I do know for a fact that tails of fried shrimp are delicious.

[Anonymous No.5493523]

>>5493511
There's no order, you nerd.

Some people save things till the end, others pick at everything.

I tend to drink my soup last, since I like it as a palate cleanser and rinse for any bits stuck in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.5493528]

>>5493518
I generally eat the tail if it's fried, but skip it if it's not.

But, you know, GAIJINSMASH (without meaning to) sometimes, so I dunno.

[Anonymous No.5493530]

>>5493523

Why would you call me that?

Anyway thanks.

[Anonymous No.5493532]

>>5493530
Because we're all nerds here.

[Anonymous No.5493596]

>>5493530
>on 4chan
>discussing food
>posting anime girl

anon, you might be a nerd

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[Anonymous No.5494464]

>>5474860
Daily reminder to sage and report these threads.

[Anonymous No.5494485]

>>5494464
>a thread where someone posts food pictures
>in the food section of an image board

i wont stand for this abomination

[Anonymous No.5494486]

>>5494485
Actually, it's a weeaboo thread without any actual content.

[Anonymous No.5494510]

>>5494486
>pictures of food
>from japan
>on 4chan
>a website made be weebs for weebs
>on the board about food

It seems pretty on topic to me, if repetitive.

[Anonymous No.5494539]

>>5493464
>>5486233
Does Japan have any good chains that aren't fast food? Lets say Applebees tier or a better tier of restaurants that are not exactly fast food any more.

[Anonymous No.5494543]

>>5494464
You are aware that there are rules against your behavior don't you?

[Anonymous No.5494561]

>>5493532
>>5493530
Indeed

[Anonymous No.5494664]

>>5494464
>>5494486
>i posted it again.jpg

[Anonymous No.5495196]

>>5494539
Nope its a developed nation of 100+ million people and they only have fast food restaurants

[Anonymous No.5495210]

>>5493523
>mfw "Japanese" restaurants in America serve the Miso soup as an appetizer

Can't those Koreans get anything right

[Anonymous No.5495225]

>>5495210
Do they also put a chicken nugget on top of some rice and call it sushi?

[Anonymous No.5495278]

Not anything food-porn worthy, but here's a personal snap.

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>>5495278

[Anonymous No.5495287]

>>5495283
my japanese friend told me that many of these small festival stands are actually run by low-ranking yakuza (this was in rural japan, either Akita or Iwate)

[Anonymous No.5495289]

>>5495278
During my stay in Japan I ate freshly baked melon pan from a guy in a small portable stall in front of a big electronic store. It was delicious. And i never found a melon pan like that again. Even melon pan from cute bakeries was shit compared to it.

[Anonymous No.5495292]

>>5495287

>>5495289
that sounds amazing. was it in akihabara?

[Anonymous No.5495294]

>>5495287
>this is run by yakuza
>that is run by yakuza
Is there anything besides public baths that isn't run by yakuza?

[Anonymous No.5495296]

>>5495292
final meal at my homestay. lesson: curry udon is the best food of all time [citation needed]

[Anonymous No.5495302]

>>5495292
I was staying in Shizuoka-ken, Shimizu-ku. I think the store was called Yamada.

Probably it was more the fresh factor, like how freshly hot brownies are much better than brownies that have been on the shelf for some time and are cold now.

[Anonymous No.5495309]

>>5495302
mmm I can imagine.

pic related, this stand (across from the ikayaki one I posted previously) sold a chicken-skin soup that was hot, salty, and divine in the cold weather.

>captcha: Supplier uenotsf

[Anonymous No.5495313]

I went to Japan 3.5 years ago for a few weeks. I'd love to go back, this thread is making me nostalgic!

[Anonymous No.5495320]

>>5495296
Curry udon is what you make when you have leftover curry and you don't want to wait for rice to cook

[Anonymous No.5495323]

>>5495320
It was a different kind-- milky and spicy instead of that thick kind that is normally used.

[Anonymous No.5495396]

>>5495196
You must come from a country with very poor reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.5495458]

>>5474860
I fucking want those grapes.

[Anonymous No.5495489]

>>5495294
Actually, alot of things are unofficially run by Yakuza. When I was stationed in Okinawa in 2001-2003, many of the sidewalk food stands, mom and pop shops, and by-me-drinkee bars/"Hotels" were/are run by Yakuza. In those two years living there, I never had a problem. And before anyone asks, it wasn't because I am a Marine. I've seen what some of them can do to a Marine when they try and start shit because "HURRR DURR MUHHREEEEEENS DA BEEEEEESTEST!"

[Anonymous No.5495509]

>>5495489
You mean, more on the informal commerce/sex industry?

Still seems better than here where criminals are in drug traffic and take down police helicopters.

[Anonymous No.5495592]

>>5494539
There are many "family" restaurants that are functionally like Applebee's.

They are infinitely better, but they fill a similar niche.

CoCo's (not the curry place) is an example.

[Anonymous No.5495613]

>>5494539
Do you like parfaits?

[Anonymous No.5495616]

>>5495313
... Where were you?

[Anonymous No.5495672]

>>5495287
They are called Tekiya. They are merchants, and there is their association. When quality of the food of the stall became the problem, the association of Tekiya acted and improved quality.
Tekiya is a series of Yakuza. However, Tekiya is different from Yakuza now.

[Anonymous No.5495712]

>>5495296
On a side note, Food From Japan guy, your English has been improving a lot during your stay in /ck/. I always enjoy your threads. Thank you for making them.

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>>5475896
Is that like a testicle or something? What is it?

[Anonymous No.5495766]

>>5495739
ice cream and cookie it seems

OP: i wonder, is there a similar social stigma associated with eating out alone as we do on the west?

[Anonymous No.5495969]

>>5495712
haha. that would probably be because I'm not your "guy". I never post in /ck/ actually, this is my first time sharing my pics from Japan.

but I'm sure he would appreciate the sentiment.
polite sage

[Anonymous No.5496080]

>>5495969
Oh, my apologies. Your pictures are similarly high-quality, so I assumed that you were the same person.

Well, in any case, I am enjoying your thread too!

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Yakitori.

[Anonymous No.5498257]

>>5474860
Question for food pics from Japan guy. When I'm in Tokyo, I'm usually staying somewhere in Asakusa. What restaurants do you recommend that are close by? I know some places, but I figured that you might have recommendations.

[Anonymous No.5498292]

>>5498257
he's probably just a weeb who's never left his mums basement in ohio

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[Anonymous No.5498920]

>>5498257
I am not OP.

In Asakusa, Youshoku is interesting.
The old Japanese did not understand a European and American dish. And Youshoku was made.

The dish of Yoshikami is slightly expensive. The pork curry of this restaurant is old taste of Japan. When the Italian watches the spaghetti meatball of this restaurant, I may fly into a rage. However, it is my favorite. The fried meat cake is delicious, too. The style of the salad is interesting, too.
Asakusa 1-41-4.

The shop of the style American in the Arizona kitchen. The dish here is mysterious for a Japanese. However, it is individual and is delicious.
Asakusa 1-34-2.

I have eaten French food in Bisutro Katori. Quite good.
Nishi asakusa 1-8-9.

In Asakusa, a lot of Japanese tourists come, too. However, a really good shop is the shop which local people go. I am sorry, but I am not local people. You should ask an English intelligible local shopkeeper.

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>>5475870
>>5475874
>>5475881
>>5475886
>>5475893
>>5475896

So you go to a nice French restaurant and at each course you pull out your DSLR and take a picture of your food? Isn't that considered rude?

[Anonymous No.5499292]

>>5499276

Here in Japan, taking photographs of a food is a grateful thing. Many people bring a camera to the elegant supper.

[Anonymous No.5499296]

>>5499276

Taking pictures of food in japan is not inappropriate. Have you never heard of the stereotypes about asians always taking pics of food?

[Anonymous No.5500077]

>>5499276
In Japan, the photograph of the meal is recognized as a hobby.
However, some restaurants do not admit photography.
I ask the staff the right or wrong of the photography at the restaurant which I visited for the first time.
The single-lens reflex camera has a big shutter sound. Other visitors may mind it.
I use the compact camera that a sound is relatively low.

[Anonymous No.5500082]

>>5499296
Before the internet the Japanese stereotype was that tourist taking photos of everything.

[Anonymous No.5500116]

Srs. No troll. I hate this fucking thread. It's so depressing. Why is Japan so fucking modest and bland and sad. Please help me. Please why should I appreciate this. I am totally serious..show me the way I am open.

[Anonymous No.5500123]

>>5500116

What makes you think their food is bland?

No offense, but are you perhaps a smoker? I'm totally serious just as you are. I can totally understand if you don't care for Japanese food. But I don't see how you could call it bland?

[Anonymous No.5500127]

5 years and the same psychopath is still making these threads. Amazing.

[Anonymous No.5500138]

>>5500123
When I look at these pictures I see incomplete dishes that come off kind of shy. They show skill but are incomplete in execution.

When I think of Chinese, for example I think of bold flavors, spicy, sweet, sour, savory. Cooked vegetables. Cooked meats.

Japan on the other hand seems so timid. Raw fine sliced vegetables to the side. Sauce to the side. Meat to the side. It really seems incomplete to me. Like they don't want to offend anyone so they leave every option to the diner. It's like they have no cultural pride... Again, if I am looking at this the wrong way please explain. I'm not looking to argue I just want to talk. I've been watching these threads for weeks thinking the same thing every time.

[Anonymous No.5500152]

>>5500138

So have you actually eaten the food? Because I'm not sure what the location of things on the plates have to do with being bland?

I'm also wondering about your experience with Chinese food. Sure the big-name westernized dishes are indeed "bold". And a lot of Szechuan cooking is spicy. But that's just one of many styles of cooking in China, and several of them use no strong spices of any sort. It's not as if the entirety of China is eating General's chicken or Ma Po Tofu.

[Anonymous No.5500161]

>>5500138

Your description of chinese food makes me think the only chinese food you have had is suburban american chinese delivery. Sesame chicken with hot sauce, and that kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.5500181]

>>5500152
Definite western mind coming in here. I've made some Jap friends in college and their parents made some stuff a few times over breaks. That's why I bring it up.

I'm not saying I dislike certain vegetables or ingredients. But it's like a buffet on the plate. Why not combine the ingredients and make something rather than mixing them at the table? I look at these pics and see the same trend.

I'm just trying to get a grip on the cultural side of Japanese food. It's really foreign to me and I want to get a better understanding of it. I mean I know all of China doesn't eat General Tso, or Kung Pao. Just like Japan isn't completely Hibachi and Teriyaki grills.

[Anonymous No.5500214]

>>5500181
>Definite western mind coming in here

No, I'm asking that question because you used the world "bland" but then you kept talking about how the dishes LOOKED as opposed to how they TASTE. That made me wonder if you had ever actually eaten the food or were just saying it LOOKED bland from the photos you saw. I'm confused because you used the world BLAND but then talked about the appearance of the dishes rather than the taste.

>Why not combine the ingredients and make something rather than mixing them at the table?

I don't claim to be an expert on Japanese culture, but I am reasonably fluent in Japanese and studied it for 3 yrs at Uni. On top of that I love all kinds of Asian cooking and I have watched an awful lot of the original Japanese Iron Chef. Repeatedly. And if that can be taken as any sort of a guide then it's pretty clear that the Japanese are very big into presenting food in it's "natural form". It's a cultural thing. Traditional Japanese cooking emphasizes maintaining the original flavor, color, and shape of the ingredients.

Oh, and I agree that is a bit unusual, at least compared to my western upbringing, and in comparison with other Asian styles of cooking. But I'm still wondering what that has to do with "bland"? Bland refers to flavor. What you're talking about is the physical location of things on the plate and/or table. I don't follow what one has to do with the other?

[Anonymous No.5500217]

>>5500181
>Why not combine the ingredients and make something rather than mixing them at the table?
To appreciate each flavor and texture? You don't get the same effect by mixing all ingredients in a sushi and cooking it.

[Anonymous No.5500265]

>>5500214
Sure. Guilty. It looks bland. I admit I eat with my eyes and Japanese food in particular "looks" bland. I have little experience with Japanese foods but all of my personal experiences look like this thread. Just sort of boring for lack of better term.

To your second point. I find it confusing that you claim Japanese focus on minimalism of cooking but have such high standards in gastronomy. I am likely generalizing, I know. But several Americans I speak with that work in kitchens speak highly of the Japanese right off the bat. Again, from my experiences I just don't get the hype. Is it worship of minimalism?

http://www.youtube.com/user/TOKYOGASTRONOMY

Far from minimalism.

>>5500217
Again. I am open to opinion, maybe I just don't understand atm. But I think I have been open to it. I am taking all the info in.

[Anonymous No.5500315]

>>5500265
>I find it confusing that you claim Japanese focus on minimalism of cooking but have such high standards in gastronomy

Well, they have high standards in a lot of things, not just cooking. And even if we limit it to cooking only, the Japanese have no problem combining flavors and whatnot when they do foreign cuisine. There are more 3-star restaurants in Toyko than there are in any other major city in the world by a large margin. And many of those restaurants are French, Italian, Chinese, and so on. But the focus behind traditional Japanese cooking seems to be to focus on preserving the natural form of the ingredients.

>>is it worship of minimalism?
Seems pretty close, I think. I don't think the term is a perfect match but it's not far off.

Also, a lot of it focuses on the quality of the ingredients. When you have good ingredients they can stand on their own and you don't need a fancy preparation or a sauce to make it taste good.

[Anonymous No.5500318]

>>5500265
Japanese food in general have delicate flavors. For an example. Do you feel any difference between jasmine rice and basmati rice? I have met an Australian guy who was a good cook but couldn't see any different between different kinds of rice.

Some people are unable to perceive delicate flavors and need the intense flavors of loads of salt, ketchup and mustard everywhere. Maybe Japanese food in general just isn't for you. There are some intense flavor japanese dishes but in general japanese food have delicate flavors.

[Anonymous No.5500323]

>>5500315

....continued.

I'll use chicken as an example here, but this applies to just about all ingredients.

If I showed you a picture of a plain chicken breast cooked in a pan you'd probably (and rightly) think that looks pretty bland.

Why? Most of the people I know from my generation and younger tend to think of food as a commodity: a chicken is a chicken is a chicken. They don't realize there's a difference between the mass-produced supermarket meat and a really good free-ranged bird that's of a breed that tastes good rather than being bred for fast growth and breast size, because that's all they've ever eaten. (I'm sure the same is for the young generations of Japanese too.) Thus many of the common foods we buy end up being pretty bland and boring because they're designed to be cheap and mass produced rather than the best taste. The average chicken breast you'd get at a supermarket is probably from the Jersey Giant breed. They don't taste of much, so you pretty much have to use a sauce or breading or whatever to make it taste interesting. But if you get a really good chicken that ate a good varied diet then the meat is plenty tasty on it's own and doesn't need any additives. Alas most of us have never had such a thing so we don't know any better. That's sort of the way it is with traditional Japanese food. They go out of their way to use ingredients which taste good without a lot of extra preparation being needed. If the veggie (or whatever) is out of season so it doesn't taste all that great they simply don't use it.

So yeah, a lot of Japanese dishes might appear boring because we're used to the things we see on the plate not tasting of much on their own. But that's the nature of the western supermarket (and processed food industry) coming into play. We assume that all veggies are boring on their own because we're used to buying out-of-season ones all the time which are indeed lacking in flavor.

[Anonymous No.5500334]

>>5500323

...continued again

Another thing to consider is that a lot of Asian cooking (Japan included, but honestly this is more of a Chinese thing) is focused not just on the taste, but other things like color and texture. The point of many dishes may not be flavor at all, but a certain appearance (traditionalism here), or a certain texture. Many of the foods that are highly prized in Asia and cost boatloads of money are desireable because of that texture. Shark fin soup, for example, has nothing to do with the flavor, but rather the texture of the "fibers" in the fins. Likewise for swallow's nest, and so on. Personally I don't find that kind of texture appealing but it is a big deal in Asia.

[Anonymous No.5500345]

>>5482165
>Raw fish
>Raw eggs
gross

[Anonymous No.5500516]

>>5500345
Are you a pussy?

Next you will say that you don't like raw be too?

[Anonymous No.5500520]

>>5500345
http://youtu.be/83C3UpTHdYo

[Anonymous No.5500536]

>>5500345
Eggception!

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>>5500536
holy fuck this must be amazing

[Anonymous No.5500590]

>>5500536

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>>5500590

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>>5500662
Lol

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[Anonymous No.5501396]

>>5474860

[Anonymous No.5501400]

japanese sandwich

[Anonymous No.5501412]

cold noodles, very traditional

[Anonymous No.5501414]

>>5474860
avocado

[Anonymous No.5501418]

>>5475896
I have never seen food so pale. What would you call it?

[Anonymous No.5501422]

>>5474860
traditional tsukemono

[Anonymous No.5501434]

>>5501422
that looks like somebody threw up on some tofu ?

[Smith the CIA Agent No.5501438]

>>5496080
I bet they have a roster on 2chan for "people interested in posting on /ck/ about food" and "people to take pictures of food for /ck/" somewhere...

[Anonymous No.5501439]

>>5474860
not into japanese much anymore

[Anonymous No.5501443]

>>5475896
What is that on? Is that a pie crust? Looks good. What is it called?

[Anonymous No.5501479]

>>5474860

[Anonymous No.5501485]

>>5495592
>saying coco's is better than applebees
that's seriously a weird opinion.

[Anonymous No.5501487]

>>5495712
half of these threads are USA expats posting shit we all know actually tastes gross. It's like an inside joke.

that's why japan guy gets so up in arms in every thread.

[Anonymous No.5501489]

traditonal lunch.

[Anonymous No.5501490]

>>5475896
What is the name of this dish?

[Anonymous No.5501496]

>>5474860

[Anonymous No.5501497]

>>5501490
ice cream, a traditional japanese dish. Not many people know it originated in Japan from Kobe cows.

[Anonymous No.5501502]

>>5500138

>nips
>no cultural pride

Everyone point at this guy and laugh

[Anonymous No.5502047]

>>5500138
>chinese
>not just a mess of ingredients shoved in a pot and mixed with a fuckton of oil

>>5500214
>Bland refers to flavor.
not always you moron. you can call something aesthetically bland, dull, boring etc
his use of the word isn't at fault here

>>5500265
>To your second point. I find it confusing that you claim Japanese focus on minimalism of cooking but have such high standards in gastronomy.
minimalism does not mean "have nothing"
it means "make something out of little"
and generally focuses on making that 'something' powerful, typically by means of hard contrasts, harsh edges and a focus on the overall form than the individual pieces that composite. The silhouette, if you will
just because they use few ingredients doesn't mean taste is absent.
nip aesthetics is entirely based around simplicity of design, and controlled but natural environments. it extends far beyond just their food

what an awful conversation

[Anonymous No.5502050]

>>5502047
>composite
compose
it

[Anonymous No.5502339]

>>5501418
Icecream.

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[Anonymous No.5502459]

>>5501497
>ice cream
>japanese
lol weeabo fag

[Anonymous No.5502461]

>>5475896
What do you call that? Sort of looks like on of those puffball fungus.

[Anonymous No.5502487]

>>5502047
>not always you moron. you can call something aesthetically bland, dull, boring etc

Yes. That's why I asked him for clarification rather than calling him a moron. I would have thought that if he was talking about aesthetics he'd have used a different term, just like you did, but since it wasn't clear I asked.

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[Anonymous No.5502501]

>>5500653
I love me some gyudon with an egg on top but that many is just not right.

[Anonymous No.5502532]

>>5482162
I don't understand shit like this, and it's super common in Japan. It's just like "here's a bunch of individual things put together to look nice" and lots of times it has very little cooking (like earlier). It just isn't impressive. It looks good but sitting down to eat that I feel like I would be extremely disappointed because it would be like 1 flavor after another, not complexity or inter-mingling.

[Anonymous No.5502534]

Oyakodon.

[Anonymous No.5502545]

>>5502532
You do not have to understand it.

[Anonymous No.5502598]

>>5502532
They are big on integrity of ingredients, see >>5500323 I think arranging items together can still be considered cuisine, even if it's not technically cooking.

also you can eat more than one item at a time, of course.

[Anonymous No.5502621]

>>5502532
1. You eat a bit of one
2. enjoy the flavor
3. Eat a little bit of another
4. Enjoy the different flavor
Mixing everything together would destroy the experience. You never enjoy any of the ingredients end up with a mix of everything every bite.

[Anonymous No.5502622]

>>5482534
is that a type of sake?

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[Anonymous No.5502638]

>>5502622

Yes, looks like one of the various un-filtered types.

[Anonymous No.5502662]

>>5502621
well yeah, but most cultures would call that cooking, not ruining.

[Anonymous No.5502665]

>>5502622
Nigori
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigori

http://ranking.rakuten.co.jp/weekly/302881/

[Anonymous No.5502696]

>>5502662
You are the kind of people who just mix everything in your plate?

It is about having many small dishes.

[Anonymous No.5502718]

>>5502487
except you went over it twice and then explicitly denied the existence of meaning for the term outside of taste

>But I'm still wondering what that has to do with "bland"? Bland refers to flavor. What you're talking about is the physical location of things on the plate and/or table.

[Anonymous No.5502731]

>>5502718
>u went over it twice and then explicitly denied the existence of meaning for the term outside of taste
and of course
he didn't need to use a different term because bland was perfectly fitting for the problem he had with the food, though he left it vague the first time. Cleared it up by second post. Didn't stop you though.

[Anonymous No.5502736]

>>5502662
Well, simplified cuisine that focuses on the ingredients is becoming more fashionable in at least Modern European cuisine. Each item in the bento box is more like a single dish, not separate ingredients for one dish so it's not valid to say other cultures would call it cooking. Anyway, the focus is on the single ingredients as has been mentioned before.

I hate bento boxes, though. I think they're absolutely ugly and I find nothing but the sushi and spinach appetising in that posted picture. I love having multiple dishes and stuff like OP's pic looks tasty but a bunch of raw stuff isn't for me.

[Anonymous No.5502738]

>>5502718
>>except you went over it twice

Yep. See the word "wondering" in there? I'm looking for clarification.

>>denied the existence of the meaning of the term outside of taste

Well that does seem like a logical assumption for a FOOD board now doesn't it? Especially when your counter-examples involved completely different or clearly modified words, like boring or AESTHETICALLY bland. Maybe I'm an idiot but it seems pretty clear to me that when discussing food the term bland refers to flavor.

If you were to come across a posting on a fashion board using the word "face" you'd probably think they were talking about a person's face, right? After all, that is by far the most common use of the term. Especially in that context. Would it then make sense to jump in and say well what about a WATCH face? OFC not. If someone meant to use the term in an non-standard manner they'd have used different terms. Just like you did:

>>aesthetically bland, dull, boring

[Anonymous No.5502760]

>>5502738
> Maybe I'm an idiot but it seems pretty clear to me that when discussing food the term bland refers to flavor.
food has never been just taste
it's a whole fucking system, and aesthetics are clearly an important part of it

>If someone meant to use the term in an non-standard manner they'd have used different terms. Just like you did:
hence the second post, which clarified which context
but again
it failed to stop you
because
once more
bland does not refer to flavor without context
bland doesn't refer to anything specific without context
and if he's saying the physical location of things on the plate and/or table
it's pretty fucking clear the context isn't the flavor profile
(but of course, that didn't stop you)

[Anonymous No.5502776]

>>5502760
>bland does not refer to flavor without context

We'll just have to disagree on this one. I think it's pretty clear that bland refers to taste on a food board.

I think you actually agree, which is why you used different words when talking to me, and also why you seem to have ignored my example about the word face.

As for your image macro, right back atcha buddy. You seem just as bent up about this as I do. Do you honestly think the term bland on a food board refers to something other than taste without further qualification?

[Anonymous No.5502833]

>>5502776
>We'll just have to disagree on this one. I think it's pretty clear that bland refers to taste on a food board.
>also why you seem to have ignored my example about the word face.
I had something but it didn't flow right so I removed it
the biggest issue with the example is that face can't actually sit within two separate contexts while looking at the same item (ie taste/smell/looks for food), at least not that I can think of, making it an insufficient comparison. Also that 'bland' describes the context while 'face' sets the context.

>You seem just as bent up about this as I do.
my issue was more with how the whole conversation actually managed to say nothing at all about japanese cooking
the only useful idea out of the whole like 10+ sequence was "Traditional Japanese cooking emphasizes maintaining the original flavor, color, and shape of the ingredients."
and that's not a compliment
not that this is any better

>Do you honestly think the term bland on a food board refers to something other than taste without further qualification?
but this was post-qualification
and you identified the qualification
>What you're talking about is the physical location of things on the plate and/or table.
yet refused it, thus the question remained
>But I'm still wondering what that has to do with "bland"? Bland refers to flavor.

[Anonymous No.5503036]

>>5502776
>I think it's pretty clear that bland refers to taste on a food board.
I think it's pretty clear you're a presumptuous moron who can't grasp that there is an aspect of food and cooking that could be described as "bland" aside from flavor.
>b-b-but you HAVE to talk about it this way, because the header on this web page says you have to!

[Anonymous No.5503178]

Cream mitsumame.

[Anonymous No.5503182]

Japanese food guy I have a question. Can you explain why panna cotta is one of the default desserts at so many Japanese restaurants? Aside from Italian places it's the only other national cuisine where they seem to love the stuff.

I like panna cotta too, it's just that it seems arbitrary for Japanese chefs to be so enamored with it.

[Anonymous No.5503197]

>>5503182
Because it requires almost no skill to make and it sounds fancy.

[Anonymous No.5503367]

>>5503182
nips have a superiority complex over anything european.

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>>5503182
Japanese food guy has several people.(^o^;)

I do not know the reason.
Tiramisù was all the rage in old days in Japan. Possibly it may be the substitute.
panna cotta is simpler. And it is cheap and is easy to contribute it.
It is my guess. It is not a proved fact.

However, is there so many Panna cotta?

[Anonymous No.5503719]

>>5503182

in my experience panna cotta is really common in modern western restaurants too.

also the guys arguing about japanese food being 'bland' and 'not impressive', just shut the fuck up you're trying way too hard. they have one pot meals, they have bento boxes. you read 'modesty' into it because that's a stereotype of japanese people in general. it's a complex, diverse cuisine with strong flavours and subtle ones alike. and looking at these plates if you don't see the pride that is taken in presentation and prep then you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.5503750]

>>5503719
Strong flavours? You never had authentic japanese couisine, I suppose. Japanese food is about the high quality of its ingredients while perserving the fine and pure taste. Unlike french food it is not about perfect mixing and combinations.

[Anonymous No.5503757]

>>5503750
>Japanese food is about the high quality of its ingredients while perserving the fine and pure taste

Never had Japanese street food, have we ^_^

Stop it with the orientalizing

[Anonymous No.5503788]

>>5503750

jesus shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.5504171]

>>5477422
Too bad it's going extinct.

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>>5475896
What is the name of this food? What is it?

[Anonymous No.5504653]

>>5504284
XD

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>>5505008
wow I have the same kyusu!

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>>5505011
(^_^)

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>>5505014

[Anonymous No.5505076]

>>5475896
Anyone have a name and recipe for this dish?

[Anonymous No.5505162]

>>5505014
what is that, shit smears?

[Anonymous No.5505283]

Onigiri.

[Anonymous No.5505335]

>>5505014
I assume the topping is a clue as to the filling type. Anyone know what it might be?

I made the grilled onigiri once, and really enjoyed it. I should try that again.

[Anonymous No.5505338]

>>5505335
Looks like maybe soybean paste.

[Anonymous No.5505487]

>>5479827
So they really eat those things?

[Anonymous No.5505967]

>>5505014
>>5505162
>>5505335
>>5505338

Red miso paste

[Anonymous No.5506010]

>>5505487
Japan's ice cream is basically our bloody marys

[Anonymous No.5506012]

>>5483770
check out the cooking with dog youtube videos.

[Anonymous No.5506024]

>>5500077
>boiled bacon
why does the japanese do this so much? it's like they want to eat soggy slabs of fat

[Anonymous No.5506034]

>>5485721
Had those when i were in tokyo, they are so bad, like balls of mealy sugar in gelatin-sugar sauce. I guess asian candy is an aquried taste

[Anonymous No.5506042]

>>5500315
>>focus on the perfect ingredient.
casuals

[Anonymous No.5506112]

>>5475896
Is this any good? And what is the name of this dish?

[Anonymous No.5506361]

Nobody reads a thread.

[Anonymous No.5506527]

>>5506042
Name of manga?

>>5506361
Well, I do.

[Anonymous No.5507289]

>>5506527
Shokugeki no Soma

[Anonymous No.5507564]

Omu_subi.

[Anonymous No.5507937]

New thread >>5507933