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5418611 No.5418611[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in America?

Was the country too young when globalism came along?

>> No.5418628

Because America is too big to have a SINGLE food culture. It's more of a state by state kind of thing.

>> No.5418650

It's not just food culture, it's culture in general that is lacking. Warhol, Pollock, Hollywood, Disney, rock & roll... all entertainment rubbish pushed by a marketing machine with the sole purpose of driving consumption.

The real culture of the US is fragmented, struggling to survive & is found among the poor and downthrodden, in the swamps, among the natives, hillbillies and junks.

>> No.5418664

America has a ton of food culture. You're interpreting the direction of globalization the wrong way. Globalized food didn't come here, our food became the global standard.

>> No.5418670

>>5418611

These America vs. Europe threads on /ck/ are pure flamebait.

>> No.5418671

>>5418611
It did, you're just fucking stupid or a troll

>> No.5418675

>>5418650
consumerism is our culture, its uniquely american

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5418676

Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in Europe?

>> No.5418696

>>5418611
You didn't even define what a legitimate food culture is.

>> No.5418704

Hide European shitposting threads.
Ignore European shitposter posts.
Do not reply to European shitposters.

>> No.5418715

>>5418676

Mysterious parmo guy returns

>> No.5418866

But it did (outside of the midwest).

>> No.5418892

It exists, it's just regional/specific to certain cities since the country is pretty big and people are more likely to identify being from <X part of the country> than they are simply as an American

>> No.5420019

>>5418671
This.

We've got barbecue in the South, the Northeast has seafood, the Midwest has its own thing, the Southwest has Tex Mex and so on.

>> No.5420038

Creole food is fucking awesome though.

>> No.5420058

>>5418628

This I love the foreigners who think just cause America is a single country it must only have one identity. That's like saying all of Europe is practically the same place.

>> No.5420143

>>5418650
>The real culture of the US is fragmented, struggling to survive & is found among the poor and downthrodden, in the swamps, among the natives, hillbillies and junks.
I partly agree, although I think pop culture is culture too, although it may be "lower" than what one would expect. But Europeans just seem to ignore all the contributions we made - democracy, class mobility, mass produced cars, personal computers - and look down their noses regardless.

>> No.5420161

>>5418611
We have a bunch of regional cultures though. America is a melting pot of different, much older cultures.

There's creole cooking, St Louie BBQ, Philly Cheesesteaks, people in the south eat oxtail and testicles and shit...

our culture is juts pretty young... what, couple hundred years?

italians have been around for what? forever? france?

i can play Civilization 1 and im sure ill get to talk to the king of france and king of italy.... but the mayor of detroit? probably have to play age of wonders then

>> No.5420162

>>5420058
>implying a significant number of the Why do Americans... threads aren't false flags

>> No.5420200

>>5420058

But it is.

>> No.5420205

>>5418611
>Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in America?
What is the South

>> No.5420218

>>5418675

it's uniquely destructive to the human race.

it's as though this entire country is a pen full of guinea pigs. or a UNIQUE slaughterhouse.

>> No.5420344

>>5420205
>"deep fry it in butter!"
>food culture

>> No.5420346

>>5420161
>i can play Civilization 1 and im sure ill get to talk to the king of france and king of italy.... but the mayor of detroit? probably have to play age of wonders then

You have to go to federal supermax for that

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5420353

American BBQ is great and I'm European.

>> No.5420389

>>5420344
What is cajun

>> No.5420438 [DELETED] 

Typical post by retarded Britbong who thinks all American food is just Burr Gurrs and Hawt Dawgs!

Note to Britbongs: the shit you get in your country under the label of 'foreign cuisine' is not an accurate representation of the actual cuisine of that country. Americans don't just eat burgers. Italians don't just eat pizza, spaghetti bolognese and lasagne. People in Spain don't eat nothing but paella and paprika-flavored chicken. There is not some society of goggle-wearing hunters that eat only chicken topped with bacon topped with BBQ sauce topped with cheese. Mexicans don't just eat chili and enchiladas. Your retarded nonsensical inaccurate boiling-down of each country of the world into two or three dishes, then making a shitty replica of these dishes, serving them up on your island, and then wowing at how multicultural you are while thinking, "This is what they always eat in [country]." - it's embarrassing, and it shows you up as utterly clueless whenever you interact with the rest of the world on the topic of food. I can understand if you want to play pretend, imagining you still have a global empire and access to the cuisine of any country in the world that you want, but please, keep this fantasy to yourself. Nobody else wants to hear about it.

>> No.5420443

Typical post by retarded Britbong who thinks all American food is just Burr Gurrs and Hawt Dawgs!

Note to Britbongs: the shit you get in your country under the label of 'foreign cuisine' is not an accurate representation of the actual cuisine of that country. Americans don't just eat burgers. Italians don't just eat pizza, spaghetti bolognese and lasagne. People in Spain don't eat nothing but paella and paprika-flavored chicken. There is not some society of goggle-wearing hunters that eat only chicken topped with bacon topped with BBQ sauce topped with cheese. Mexicans don't just eat chili and enchiladas.

Your retarded nonsensical inaccurate boiling-down of each country of the world into two or three dishes, then making a shitty replica of these dishes, serving them up on your island, and then wowing at how multicultural you are while thinking, "This is what they always eat in [country]." - it's embarrassing, and it shows you up as utterly clueless whenever you interact with the rest of the world on the topic of food. I can understand if you want to play pretend, imagining you still have a global empire and access to the cuisine of any country in the world that you want, but please, keep this fantasy to yourself. Nobody else wants to hear about it.

>> No.5420453

>>5418628
>>5420443
This. Thank you.

>> No.5420454

>>5420443
I'm OP and I'm French. Nice strawman though.

>> No.5420490

>>5420454
>I'm French
well that explains the butter knife up your ass

>> No.5420492

>>5420019
>the Northeast has seafood
South has far better seafood than the North brah.

>> No.5420494

>>5420454
Most of it must still apply apparently, given your lack of knowledge of our cuisine.

>> No.5420503 [DELETED] 

>>5418650
>>5418675
self-hating libtards pls go

>> No.5420504
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5420504

>>5418611
OP how are you defining "legitimate food culture"? Can you give an example of a country that has one, per your definition?

>> No.5420505

>>5420454
French, hmmm? Why am I not surprised...

Sure, America doesn't have Carême, or Escoffier, or Boulud; that doesn't mean we don't have a legitimate culinary culture. If you were to take a trip around these great states, you would find a culture growing strong! From Creole to Tex-Mex, and everything in between, food all around this country has it's own flare. We've got greats like Patrick O'Connell, Thomas Keller, and the late Charlie Trotter.

And yes, cuisine varies region-to-region; hell, in Maryland alone, you can find everything from German to Italian to English influences in cooking. That doesn't make it any-less legitimate than any other food culture.

>> No.5420506

>mfw when a European male wore a thong, called his remote a smibbly bibbly, ate crisps and drank fizzy drink, collected the goop from his cheesedick and put it in a jar, paid high taxes, lost his Zed tile in scrabble, drank tea in delicate flower painted cups, wanked his chap's jibbly with slippy dip, had bad teeth, dove in the grass, digested digestive biscuits, went barmy, had a smoke and a pancake, had a closet full of blue track pants, snogged with his mate, feared the wrath of a queen, called his relative an upsy stairsy, surrendered in war, had scruffy hair, was prudish, felt dickey, said cheerio, ello, and god save the queen, smoked a fag, called his keyboard a hoighty toighty tippy typer, walked his cat on a leash, spent a fortnight in a hostel, used icing sugar, jimmied in the alley, told some one to belt up, sniffed stranger's knickers, ate a lolly, called the internet the inty winty, used a pillar box, was arse over tits drunk, had Tiger nuts, was a soap dodger, spun a yo-yo anti-clockwise, went to the C of E, drank scrumpy, had a beret, was gobsmacked, put on a welly, had some candy floss, was randy, appreciated another male's waistcoat and and bum bag, took a shufti, watched the telly, took a kip, was off his trolley, took a poopy-doo on the tea cup, had a sticking plaster on his knee, called a fan a twirly gust, was rude, waited in a queue, drove in a roundabout, said tootle pip to his mate, wore a bearskin and stood real still, asked me to blow him, shot the chin wag, was arse over elbow over a dishy bloke, wore lederhosen, was a poof, learnt maths, cocked up, identified the primary colours, told someone to bugger off, and drove on the wrong side of the road near me

>> No.5420509

>>5420492
>The South
>Maine Lobster
pick one

>> No.5420511

>>5420492
>the south
>fried little necks
>steamers
pick one

>> No.5420514

>>5420509

So, the south, NOT a Carolina...South vs Maine Lobster? hmm?

South, selection over one thing, really?

>> No.5420515

>>5420511
ipswich clams are GOAT

>> No.5420537

>>5420504
Not OP, but I assume he means, say: Indian, Iranian, French, German, Spanish. The type of stuff that is rarer to be found in America. I don't like having to drive 40 minutes to get some delicious Indian. But burgers and Americanized Mexican are everywhere.

>> No.5420573

>>5420038
ma nigga

>> No.5420599

>>5420537
>rarer to be found in America
maybe if you live in some little hick town

>> No.5420609

>>5420492
lol no it doesn't

>> No.5420666

>>5420599
Does Ohio count as hick?

>> No.5420699

>>5420666
Are you an idiot? Yes. It does. And I'm from Ohio. Even the major cities of Ohio are hick.

>> No.5420709

>>5418650
>rubbish

Can't tell if you're just a retarded American attempting to sound worldly or if you're a jealous brit that's appropriating american culture with his stupid opinions.

>> No.5420763

>>5420699
Calm down bro.

>> No.5420807

>>5418611
>never been to the South
>never heard of soul food
>2014

>> No.5420809
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5420809

>no food culture
>our shittiest restaurant chain can be found with massive lines in your capitols
>your best chefs flock here to work and open restaurants
>what is cognitive dissonance

>> No.5420814

>>5420699
Ohio has Indian and German food! Come down to Cincinnati!

>> No.5420839

>>5418611
>no legitimate food culture in the US
>what is New England Seafood
>what is New England Delicatessen
>what is Hawaiian Islander
>what is Midwest/Southern BBQ
>what is Texas BBQ
>what is Tex-Mex
>what is Traditional Southern
>what is Southern Creole
>what is whatever they do in California

because the country is too big for one food culture, so instead we have regional food cultures. faggot.

>> No.5420895

>America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.

>> No.5420924

>>5420143
Democracy was invented in Greece, but optimized by us.
Still, as Americans, we have a very differentiated food culture from region to region.
(I'll still never eat tripe, or chitlins.)

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>>5420454
>French
Maybe you'll appreciate Cajun food, it's essentially made by dirt poor French swamp people.

>> No.5420932

>>5420809
I've been trying to find those yuropoor pictures. Do they have a name or something?

>> No.5420936

>>5420929
>dirt poor French
creole =/= French
they make some tasty food, though

>> No.5421260

>>5418650
You sound like a real bitch, but I pretty much agree.

>> No.5421540

Its funny watching American cookery show, like DDD, they dont even use saucepans, everything is cooked on a flat piece of heated steal! Often with a tin can on top to make steam. So retarded.

>> No.5421542

>>5421540
>steal

>> No.5421551

>>5418611

Try coming to Australia if you think America has no food culture (which is completely false anyway)

>> No.5421552

>>5420839
Tex-Mex is just a bland, shitty version of actual Mexican food. U.S. Barbecue seems to be much the same, a cheap rip-off of the Barbecue from Latin America.

>> No.5421570

I don't understand what OP means by a legitimate food culture. We have regional food cultures just like Europe.

What I eat in Southern California is very different from what someone would eat in Texas, Louisiana, Chicago, Illinois, New England, New York, Hawaii, etc etc.

Europeans seem to make the mistake in thinking that Americans have a homogeneous culture. We really don't.

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5421577

>>5418676

>> No.5421861

It seems faggots are still hating on the Frenchs because you can't equal or even come close to our culture.
Stay mad fatlards and keep praisin your so called 'culture' which consist of deep fried butter and hotdogs.

>> No.5421874

>>5421570
This,Foreignfags don't know jack shit.

>> No.5421882

>>5418611
>What is BBQ
>What is Philly
>What is New York
>What is pizza
>What is chili
>What is specialty soda-pop
>What is soul food
>What is northeastern seafood
>On and on bullshit etc.

>>5418628
This.

>> No.5421894

>>5420344
>attempting deep frying in butter instead of oil

>> No.5421900

>>5421551
This.

We have Lamington and Pavlova. Kangaroo is a cop-out since quite literally the meat is only available here.

>> No.5421906

>>5421882
>What is BBQ
Something that's been done for centuries?
>What is Philly
A state I guess..if you meant philly cheese steak or whatever this has been done by paskitanese people in every major european country.
>What is New York
What's so special about new york?
>What is pizza
Italian?
>What is chili
Mexican?
>What is specialty soda-pop
Utter shit no one should drink?
>What is soul food
Black people food?Chicken?Fries?
>What is northeastern seafood
europe already got seafood on a lockdown
>On and on bullshit etc.


Go ahead, widen your list I'm waiting.

>> No.5421915

>>5420537
I can find this within 20 miles of me, most of it on the same street even, plus Irish-American, Vietnamise, 3 Asian markets, and hell, even Arabian and East African. Only in America.

>> No.5421917

>>5421906
>a somewhat similar thing exists elsewhere, so it doesn't count

This is a really dumb argument.

Also

>chili is Mexican
nope

>deep dish pizza is Italian
nope

etc etc.

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5421933

>>5421917
>Chili
>Deep dish pizza
>Culture
Oh america..

>> No.5421935

>>5420666
Ohio is a goddamn wasteland

>> No.5421936

>>5421906
BBQ has certainly not been done like it is here. And BBQ sauces are a whole fucking culture in and of themselves.

New York is fucking New York. Amazing pizza and bagels and shit like you won't find other places. I used to fight this point too until I went there a few times.

Philly's not a state, it's a city. Best damn pretzels and cheesesteaks you'll find anywhere. Pakistan has definitely not done it like us with the same ingredients.

Chili comes from Amerindians, and we've developed enough of a culture around it that we can have 200 replies on a thread debating how everyone does/should make it.

Soul food is dense comfort food. You clearly don't know it if you really think it's chicken and fries.

"I hate shitty mass produced over-sugared sodas so clearly all soda is shit forever." Great point.

>> No.5421941

ITT: Americans prove once again that they will never, ever, be able to handle the bantz.

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5421953

>>5421917
>deep dish pizza

>> No.5421957

>>5421936
>BBQ has certainly not been done like it is here. And BBQ sauces are a whole fucking culture in and of themselves.
Holy shit what am I reading

>New York is fucking New York. Amazing pizza and bagels and shit like you won't find other places. I used to fight this point too until I went there a few times.
I went there twice, my sister goes in the usa about 6 times a year and we have concluded that the pizzeria down from my street is better than any we've had when we were there.(Keep in mind that my dad is pizzaiolo so I might be a bit biased on thise one)

>Philly's not a state, it's a city. Best damn pretzels and cheesesteaks you'll find anywhere. Pakistan has definitely not done it like us with the same ingredients.
Pretzels are my country's neuighboor speciality so I doubt you can show me better pretzels than that, don't know about cheesesteak but the one I eat taste perfectly good.

>Chili comes from Amerindians, and we've developed enough of a culture around it that we can have 200 replies on a thread debating how everyone does/should make it.
Yeah ok

>Soul food is dense comfort food. You clearly don't know it if you really think it's chicken and fries.
Ok, excuse me, chicken, corn, beans and fucking mac and cheese?

>"I hate shitty mass produced over-sugared sodas so clearly all soda is shit forever." Great point.
It is what it is, why do you poison yourself with that shit when we have water flowing all over the place?

>> No.5421973

But America created, defined and monopolized globalism, OP

>> No.5421975

Does anyone eat calf fries or lamb fries?

>> No.5422003

>>5421975
yeah, poor people who can only afford to buy offal after all the rich people buy the best cuts of meat

>b-but it's so good muh authentic quizine
if you weren't so poor you'd realize that things can be tasty without being trash.

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5422009

>>5420506
>this copy pasta is like 5 years old

>> No.5422060

>>5420599
>maybe if you live in some little hick town
Hell I do live in what people from the shitty coasts consider a hick town and we have a Nepalese restaurant nearby.

http://www.ilovehimalayas.com/

>> No.5422069

>>5421906

>mfw anon criticizes an nation made up almost entirely of immigrants and their descendants for incorporating and improving on the cuisines of our forebearers.

>> No.5422084

>>5421957

>Holy shit what am I reading

not american but their bbq is certainly distinctive. also NY pizza is great - simple, generous, balanced and satisfying. no it isn't italian pizza but italian pizza is made in italy where everything that goes on pizza is incredibly delicious. There are great bakers in NY.

also soda can be perfectly healthful. america contributed a hell of a lot to the world of recreational beverages.

>> No.5422117

>>5418611
If "legitimate" means "descended from a court cuisine and refined by haute bourgeois" the reason is obvious. There never was a royal court in the States, and most of the wealth here was created during or after industrialization.

The concentration of wealth in places like New York City assures that the US has world class dining. Among these are many so-called "New American" restaurants that elevate familiar American cooking into fine food, while also incorporating elements of different ethnic cuisines and sometimes modern technique.

Given the nation's youth and immigrant heritage this New American cuisine could represent a "legitimate" American cuisine.

That does not discount the richness of American regional cooking, which, depending on the region can be spectacular. And in some cases has been elevated to a "legitimate" cuisine by the cooks who inspired the "New American" movement.

>> No.5422161

>>5422084

>also soda can be perfectly healthful

How?

>> No.5422163

>>5422161
moderation?

>> No.5422171

>>5422163

How does that make the soda healthful though? If anything, it just proves it can't be healthful because your only option to is drink less of it

>> No.5422172

>>5422171
>it just proves it can't be healthful because your only option to is drink less of it

that can be applied to everything though

>> No.5422179

>>5422172

No it actually can't. Healthy foods show health benefits when you eat them

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5422195

>>5420666
>Does Ohio count as hick.

>> No.5422203

>Australian shitposts again.
>Americans bated into it
>So successful at proving wrong that it just turns into an American circlejerk about our bitchin' variety of food.
>Cycle continues

I'm in Southern California, in the suburbs, and we have strip mall hell. Fuck, food culture is the ONLY thing we have.

>> No.5422206

>>5422179
and also show negative benefits when you eat too much of them

>> No.5422210

>>5422161

it's flavoured seltzer water. you can flavour it with something healthful. all it needs to be is clarified. a small amount of sugar, refined or otherwise, won't harm you.

>> No.5422246

>>5422206

"Too much" being a ridiculous, unfeasible amount, unlike with soda

>> No.5422247

>>5422246

that doesn't mean a healthful amount of soda is ridiculously, unfeasibly small.

>> No.5422250

>PIZZA ON A STICK

I'M IMPRESSED

>> No.5422255

>>5422250
its actually a bloody mary garnish
Even more impressive

>> No.5422267

>>5422247

Yes it does

>> No.5422299

Damn, why don't they sell more meals as retarded ridiculous bloody marys? Like make an entire menu full of bloody marys with different toppings and garnishes.

>> No.5422333

>>5420344
Man, you must hate the french then

>> No.5422345

>>5422333
Who doesn't?

>> No.5422368

Most sweets and deserts were invented in the US. Such as chocolate chip cookies and Boston Cream Pie... and wacky cake. But we don't talk about wacky cake.

>> No.5422374

>>5422368
... wacky cake?

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5422394

>>5418650
>The U.S.A. has no poets, no painters, no architects or composers of world stature. Whatever culture it has is borrowed from Europe. The land lacks its own language, culture, and civilization. It has borrowed everything, generally debasing it by Americanizing it, never improving it. Americanization is a kind of kitschification that gives every cultural value an American stamp, turning a mature language into slang, the waltz into jazz, a work of literature into a crime story.

>We would not say anything if the U.S.A. were aware of its intellectual and moral defects and was trying to grow up. But it is too much when it behaves in an impudent manner toward a part of the earth with a few thousands years of glorious history behind it, attempting to teach it moral and intellectual lessons, whether out of innocence or a complete lack of genuine culture and learning. We can forgive the mistakes of youth, but this degree of arrogance gets on one’s nerves.

You're in good company, Eurofag.

>> No.5422404

>>5418611
I like your pic. a food cultore, um coture , um cuisine did develope. just a reflection of you..epluribus unim.

>> No.5422611

>>5420143
>Democracy
>Invented in the usa
>Used in the usa

Holy shit you faggots are aware you live in an oligarchy right?
Do you also realize all those inventions you quoted, were made after the war, by forcibly deporting germans scientist and engineers to the usa?

>> No.5422631

>>5422611
considering most elections are won by the person who put in the most campaign funds I'd say we live in a plutocracy.

>> No.5422643

>>5422611
Are Europeans really this stupid? Or just so spiteful that they will delude themselves into believing anything.

Not the democracy thing, but that it was German scientists, and not our economy.

>> No.5422647

>>5421917
Deepdish pizza isn't even pizza...

>> No.5422665

>>5422647
nobody cares

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5422669

>>5422647
>

>> No.5422679

>>5422647

you just called it pizza.

that's like saying a laptop computer isn't a computer.

>> No.5422681

>>5420443
>Mexicans don't just eat chili and enchiladas.

I'm so glad you didn't say tacos because that would've been wrong.

>> No.5422720

>>5422084
> no it isn't italian pizza but italian pizza is made in italy where everything that goes on pizza is incredibly delicious

Excuse you but I'm french and I can get a real italian pizza with 'delicious' non gmo fresh ingredients (which seems to amaze you, which amaze me to be honest) 5 minutes away from here welcome to europe, friend.

>> No.5422727

It does have food culture. What it doesn't have is fine dining culture.

>> No.5422728

>>5422720

ANOTHER fucking faggot calling me american. i am not american. for the last fucking time. i am european. what the fuck was even the point of this? you're mad that i'm praising italy for having good tomatoes? you have good tomatoes too. you don't have the same pizza culture though.

no one said fucking anything about gmo and even the shitty tomatoes i get at tesco are 'fresh' but it doesn't make them good tomatoes.

i cannot believe how much of a fucking faggoty post that was jesus christ.

>> No.5422751

>>5421957
Mac and cheese is Canadian. Soul food is clearly to advanced for you to understand.

>> No.5422766

>>5422171
The caffeine in soda can help with headaches, sodas like ginger ale and sprite can help settle an upset stomach, and they serve as a quick way to help people manage blood sugar
>inb4 diabetes
There are more blood sugar related conditions than diabetes, and not all of them come from an unhealthy life style.

>> No.5422775

>>5422728
Your also posting anonymously so you have no identity. You can't tell what you have said and what another guy did.

>> No.5422782

ITT: Butthurt europoor with an inferiority complex and low self esteem has to attempt to rip on stuff he's never experienced to feel better about himself.

>> No.5422784

>>5422766
Oh yeah caffeine is good for your body is that what you are trying to tell me?

>and they serve as a quick way to help people manage blood sugar
That's not how the body work, maybe you should go take some biology and physiology class before you start assuming things.

>> No.5422787

>>5422775

yeah i understand that but the first two fucking words of the post you quoted were 'not american'. you just straight away wanted to accuse me of being from a culturally impoverished nation because i praised italian ingredients and it made you mad. that kind of attitude is the cancer of this board.

>> No.5422789

The thing that a lot of people who haven't visited the U.S. don't realize is that every state is like a separate country, with its own culture, food, local laws, etc. Asking why America doesn't have a legitimate food culture is like asking why the food is different in Wales as opposed to Scotland.

We have a food culture, we just don't have a unified food culture. And don't give me that "it's based off another culture's influences so it's not real!" bullshit. It might have applied a couple hundred years ago, but over time the influences are barely present and what you get today is unique to each state.

>> No.5422792

What is Californian food culture?

>> No.5422798

>>5422787
I'm also not the guy you are yelling at. Clearly the guy that went off you is a retard.

>>5422784
>that's not how the body works
If you have problems with low blood sugar then soda is one of the most effective things to bring it up to a normal level. Take your own advice and take some classes.

>> No.5422799

>>5422792
haphazardly smash two culture's americanized foods together with feelgood environmental ingredients and then throw some cilantro on top

>> No.5422803
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5422803

>>5422792
Baja-style Mexican -- lots of fish and shrimp and fresh veggies, avacado, etc. The San Fran Mission burrito is a good example. You could call it Cal-Mex, I guess.

We also invented the 'wrap.' Basically you take a spinach or tomato tortilla and wrap up an entire Thai/Vietnamese dinner into it along with the usual Baja veggies. Asia-Mex, more or less.

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5422805

>>5422784
Dumb ass.

>> No.5422810
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5422810

>>5422803
Up north we have a helluva lot of seafood, and inland is ranching territory. Cali BBQ seems to revolve around tri-tip for some reason. I don't question it. I just eat it.

>> No.5422811

>>5422792
In-N-Out

>> No.5422812
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5422812

Just look at all that murica influence in the UK.

>> No.5422849

>>5422611
yep.van braun and goddard.and others v-2 or Brit radar tech .space race or race to space. "merica made it to the moon on the backs of Brit,German, Russian, Japanese and many other "egg headed" scientists. e=mc2 this is ck and frankly I can burn water, much less bread. A difficult thing .I try not to hurt anyone but I'm sure I do. ex military. if questioning yourself endlessly, nothing gets done. decide what side you are on.

>> No.5422852

>>5420839
>what is whatever they do in California
Sucking dick is a distinctly European pastime

>> No.5422863

>>5422728
>lives in Europe
>at all surprised that the French guy is arrogant

>> No.5422865

All of you peopel saying "America is too big for one culture" are fucking retards.

Russia is way bigger then America - and we have one distinct culinary culture. Sure, there's stuff closer to the East that has Asian influence, closer to the south with Indian influence, and on the west side a little more Euro... but it's essentialyl the same damn shit.

America is not too large. It's TOO YOUNG. We haven't had 5000 years of history, recipes, and traditions yet. We're only a 240 year old country, remember?? We fucking had slaves less then a 150 years ago...

America is not too big. It's that kind of thinking that makes you idiots think you're invincible. Rome was pretty big too.

>> No.5422877

>>5420537
>Indian, Iranian, French, German, Spanish. The type of stuff that is rarer to be found in America. I don't like having to drive 40 minutes to get some delicious Indian.
What shithole do you live in so I can never go there

I live in the SF Bay Area and there is all of this and more within 20 minutes of where I live.

>> No.5422882

>>5421957
>Holy shit what am I reading
If you consider yourself a foodie at all, you need to get some real American BBQ
It is a goddamned religious experience

>> No.5422884

>>5420537
i live in los angeles
there's like 10 indian restaraunts within 5 minutes away. There's a bunch of them in the valley.
There's a bunch of persian restaraunts in Westwood
THere's a ton of French restaraunts - from breakfast cafes to super-fancy super expensive shit. I had the lamb chops at a french restaraunt last time - unbelievable.
German... never really seen it, but who goes out looking for german restaraunts? im russian, german food is too similar to russian home cooking.
Spanish - there's a couple of spanish restaraunts but we have so many latin americans that there's no point to go to spanish if you can go get mexican, brazilian, peruvian, etc.

>> No.5422888

>>5421957
> I went there twice, my sister goes in the usa about 6 times a year and we have concluded that the pizzeria down from my street is better than any we've had when we were there.(

haha, there's no point of arguing with this guy, he's one of those...
> went there twice
> concluded
> pizzeria down from my street is better

Yeah and my doctor is THE BEST! THE BEST! There's nobody better then my doctor.

>> No.5422889

>>5422720
>a real italian pizza with 'delicious' non gmo fresh ingredients
If you think your stuff is non gmo I can almost guarantee you're wrong.

>> No.5422890

>>5421957
wow this guy has no fucking clue about anything. can't believe he took the time to write all that nothing out.

>> No.5422892

>>5422865
>Rome was pretty big too.
And would you have claimed that the food eaten in the Roman empire was the same everywhere? Also, claiming that the Russian steppes have the same food culture as Moscow definitely isn't true, although general homogenization has led to Russia being surprisingly similar in food.

>> No.5422894

>>5422884
You'll find more German stuff in the midwest, actually, since that was where the majority settled. We've got some really authentic places in Minneapolis.

>> No.5422895

>>5422792
If American food is the bastardized version of another culture's food, Californian food is the combination of two bastardized cultures

And it's fucking delicious

>> No.5422896

>>5422888
Right. I had sex once, premature ejaculated. Yep never again. Sex sucks

>> No.5422902

>>5422865
Russia may be bigger but the population is all clumped in one area

>> No.5422906

>>5422865
How much of Russian landmass is frozen uninhabited wasteland?

>> No.5422935

>>5422888
Whatever, I'm not lying I don't really care if you believe me but the point is that I can go to Rome for the day and eat one of the best pizza ever, I can go to Frankfurt for the day and get a beast sauerkraut beer combo, I could go to Madrid for the day and enjoy a delicious paëlla.
Or I could go in Paris and get all listed above.

I roamed NY for 2 weeks each times, and nothing matched that.

>> No.5422942

>>5422935

umm... i stayed in NY for one night - for 4 hours and i saw all that shit and more. You just didn't plan your trip out. You need a tour guide or a local to show you around NYC...

>> No.5422953

>>5418611
Okay, that pic is fucking hilarious.

>> No.5422961

>>5422935
Traveling for a day just for some food

I drive 40 minutes at the most and have access to authentic restaurants that are family owned and run by emigrants that cook the same way as they did in the old country. You just suck at planning a trip. I bet your pizza was from little Ceasars

>> No.5422984

>>5422942
What I was trying to say is that all of that is Euorpean, I should be able to go to Miami and then to Texas and then Washington and have a total different experience each time but it is not possible because you don't have a food culture.

>>5422961
Good job reading genius.

>> No.5422997

>>5420454
>French
This explains your arrogance while lacking any real knowledge of that which you speak.

>> No.5422999

>>5420492
You never had Northeastern Seafood, then.

>> No.5423022

>>5422984
Each region has a speciality, but there are foods that are found widely all over. It's a country founded by every other culture in the world. Exactly what do you expect to see, one dish/style? You clearly don't get the idea of what a "melting pot" is. Go back to being an uptight French cunt and stop posting here.

>> No.5423024

>>5422984
>but it is not possible because you don't have a food culture.
I mean, that's just false. It's just very obviously false to anyone who has been to those places and eaten their local cuisine.

>> No.5423038

These threads are pure flamebait but I can't help but laugh at all these mad usalites trying to defend their shit and getting all offended.

>> No.5423043

>>5423038
Are they mad just trying to educate you ignorant European fags that give us a bad name?

>> No.5423044

>>5423022
Please read before posting.
Please.

>> No.5423054

>>5423044
Please make an accurate statement about a county and their "lack of x" .
Please.

>> No.5423058

>>5420492
>>5420509
>>5420511
I'm from New England originally and I've been living in the South for the past few years and I can confirm that the south does in fact have, on average, better seafood.

>> No.5423085

>>5423038
its not "shit" jerk

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>>5422647
>Americans have pizza as part of their food culture
>No they don't pizza is itallian!
>Deep dish pizza and other styles of pizza are an American invention
>That's not real pizza!

>> No.5423095

>>5422751
>Mac and cheese is Canadian
Thomas fucking Jefferson would have words with you.

>> No.5423105

>>5423095
Guess what motherfucker, it's French.
Buttexploded Americans incoming.

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5423134

So what I get from this thread is that the food americans try to defend, the dishes they so desperately cling unto are things like:

Pizza
Seafood, just seafood apparently
Mac'n'cheese (I don't understand this at all to be honest, isn't it just fucking macaroni and cheese? how is that a dish?)
Pretzels
Bagels
Soda (really?)
Bastardized mexican food
Barbeque

Next time I check you'll be defending frito pie as one of your traditional dishes.

If you defended your point using things like jambalaya, which is something I can respect, or even clam chowder, I could start taking these threads seriously.

>> No.5423137

>>5423089
cmon mate you gotta let the wops have something. They have so little.

>> No.5423147

Soul food- specifically Gullah cuisine and the more refined New Orleans Creole Cuisine are quite distinct rice based food cultures in North America.

>> No.5423152

>>5423134
>Pizza
Yeah, there's a pretty big culture about it. It ranges heavily from region to region.
>Seafood
More specific examples were given, but it's the umbrella term that best covers what they're discussing.
>Mac'n'cheese
Actually this was never defended as American, though a lot of people kept using it as an attack for some reason.
>Pretzels
There might be a culture there? I'm not Pretzel expert
>Bagels
Same
>Soda
Seriously, if you aren't familiar with the intense homebrew soda culture you just won't get it. Comparing mass produced stuff to it is like comparing fast food to food from a high quality restaurant. They're just nothing alike.
>Bastardized Mexican food
We bastardized everyone's culture, and then we smashed them all together. It's great, and I take great pride in being a part of that culture.
>Barbeque
Others have defended its merits better than I could

Also, you ignored a great deal of other topics brought up, such as creole, Soul Food, and chili.

TLDR; You didn't read the fucking thread.

>> No.5423156

>>5423152
You didn't read his fucking post at ALL.

>jambalaya
>not creole
DUMB
>macaroni and cheese
>not soul food
DUMB
>chili con carne
>not bastardized Mexican food
FUCK DUDE ARE YOU EVEN TRYING

>> No.5423161

>>5423156
Jambalaya is American though its a combination of African and Spanish rice dishes.

Why do people forget rice was independently domesticated in West Africa and forget that nearly all food made in Louisiana was made by enslaved African women.

Let's not forget the use of tomato and bell pepper which are new world crops

>> No.5423172

>>5421894
> This
Peanut oil is god-tier for deep frying anything. Butter's smoke point is too low and the dairy bits separate and burn.

>> No.5423178

>>5423172
Ghee is the answer for deep frying with dairy fats

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5423200

>>5423095
Suck my balls.

>> No.5423212

>>5423134
These are dishes that are claimed to be exclusive to, or even originally from the US. The are dishes that were brought over and recreated, and ultimately made using a style that is unique to either the country or region of the country. Unless you visit these areas and try the food you will never know the difference.

For example a new York style pizza is nothing like a Chicago pizza high of which are different from an Italian pizza.

>> No.5423232

>>5422394
Thing is, as an american I agree with his view. I don't believe a lot of american culture is inherently bad and I believe we do contribute to a lot of international affairs.

But we do have an undue arrogance about the state of our country. Sadly, the global view of our county is based on the lowest common denominator (which in the US is "really" fucking low). The US has neither the value its citizens place on it nor the detriment the world perceives of it. This may be true of most other countries as well, but it seems especially true in regards to the US

>> No.5423284

>>5422865

>Russia is way bigger then America - and we have one distinct culinary culture

no you don't, but your food is largely shitty anyway so

>> No.5423339

>>5422865
russian food is shit though. sovietisation probably killed the variety in russian food and gave it a unified "national cuisine".

>> No.5423376

>>5423200
What exactly is this image trying to prove?

>> No.5423422

>>5422374
We don't fucking talk about it.

>> No.5423583

>>5418650

Is this an example of privileged, middle class white people envying the poors with their "authentic", simple lives?

>> No.5423596

>>5423583
Ew romanticizing working class struggles as the true MURICA lol like come on

>> No.5423648

>>5421957
>Ok, excuse me, chicken, corn, beans and fucking mac and cheese?
dis faggot don't even know 'bout sweet potatos.

really i just pity him

>> No.5423651

>>5418611
>Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in America?
This is one of the most retarded, ignorant, and bigoted statements I've seen in a long time.

>> No.5423676

>>5422902
>>5422906
>>5423284
>>5423339
false.

you guys really are fucking retards. no matter. im in this country, too. Living life on easy mode.

> oh you know math?
> here's a promotion!
> you know spanish?
> here's a raise!

fucking stupid ass easy ass country.

>> No.5423679

>>5422789
>And don't give me that "it's based off another culture's influences so it's not real!"

on this note Greek food is really just inferior versions of Turkish food.

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5424077

Oh well, better having these obvious troll threads about America than the real ignorant ones about Scandinavia.

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5424122

>>5418704
Didnt hide
didnt ignore
Replied

>> No.5424179

>>5421900

Don't forget the fucken anzac bikkies

>> No.5424181

>>5424179
Lest we forget.

>> No.5424207

>>5421906
>chili is mexican

nigga you cray

>europe already got seafood on a lockdown

So because Europe knows how to make good seafood no one else should bother making their own styles?

>> No.5424213

>>5422953
I just now noticed that OP's bloody mary is garnished with yet another bloody mary, which in turn has its own garnish.

>> No.5424225

>>5418611
I bet people and in China and Russia eat the same thing everywhere in their country despite being the size of Australia...

>> No.5424233

>>5423212
Isnt't New York Pizza basically a bastarized Italian Pizza?

>> No.5424308

Isn't it obvious?
USA is not a hundreds and hundreds of years history rich country, it is a relatively modern creation - a boiling pot of immigrants. That's what common denominator is. Painful, but true.

>> No.5424364

>>5423376
Mac and cheese is from Canada, like the fucking text says.

>> No.5424369

>>5423676
So ugh... How much of that land mass that makes up a country of dumb fucks is actually lived in?

>> No.5424405

>>5424364
but it's not

>> No.5424513

>>5422877
I live in a state with a smaller population then your city and I can find all of that within 3-5 miles of my house. The midwest is just a shit hole when it comes to food.

>> No.5424515

>>5424513
>The midwest is just a shit hole when it comes to food.

Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Chicago would like to have a word with you.

>> No.5424518

>>5423105
I thought it was from Belgium.

>> No.5424530

>>5424364
No where in that picture does it say that. You jack ass made my read it twice to make sure.

>> No.5424534

>>5424515
Chicago doesn't count. It basic separate culturally. Whats Minnesota known for?. And I can get better cheese and beer here in New England.

>> No.5424541

>>5424513
>>5424515
The Midwest has some of the best food in the country. Why most of the people who live there choose to eat like shit is beyond me, but I think it has something to do with Betty Crocker, General Mills and their ilk.

>> No.5424542

Real art develops because of technical difficulties. In cooking, these were for example old meats the taste of which was hidden by inventing sauces in France. By the time America started having a 'culture' of its own, quality of ingredients etc. was too high, the lack of constraints meant that people would eat what they 'like' (i.e. filth, for the majority of people, as with taste in anything else).

>> No.5424544

>>5424534
ha, no you can't.

and that's like saying new york city doesn't count

>> No.5424545

>>5424541
Don't forget Tyson! Man do they know how to ruin a good piece of chicken.

>> No.5424547

>>5424544
New York city shouldn't count as part of New York states culture. It's radically different and Most upstate New Yorkers would agree with me.

>> No.5424548

>>5424534
Without NYC the entire east coat would be void of good cuisine.

>> No.5424552

>>5424534
>Whats Minnesota known for

We have a local specialty called hotdish. It consists of random canned foods, dumped into a pyrex baking dish, baked, and then topped with campbells onion soup mix.

>> No.5424553

Y'all should watch Munchies, it really shows some amazing American restaurants and it shows that we really do have a strong "food culture" and it's getting stronger.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Munchies

>> No.5424557

>>5424552
Isn't that just another word for shitty casserole? Except maybe not using cream of mushroom or cream of chicken.

>> No.5424558

Also the United States has the most Nobel Laureates in the world.

>> No.5424561

All these own goals from Americans getting into ersatz dick-measuring contests.

>> No.5424564

>>5424544
not him but i would exclude nyc from new england because guess what its fucking not in new england

we have great beer and cheese, and im sure you guys do too
tell you what i promise to sample with an open mind when i visit if you promise to do the same

>> No.5424566

>>5424557
>thatsthejoke.jpg

>> No.5424567
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>>5424548

>> No.5424568

>>5418650
>rock and roll
How...how old are you? Rock and roll hasn't existed since the 60s. It's been replaced by Rock.

>> No.5424571

>>5424552
>>5424534
We have some amazing restaurants.

Piccolo comes to mind
http://www.piccolompls.com/

As does Alma
http://www.restaurantalma.com/

Also 112 eatery and Tilia are damn good.

Or just check out eat street, it has dozens of restaurants with incredible variety, shit is awesome.

>> No.5424586

>>5424568
I miss roll.

>> No.5424587

>>5420511
>>5422999
>>5420509
What about fish? Especially in Florida?

Man these taste good.

>> No.5424588

>>5420161
>people in the south eat oxtail and testicles and shit...
this is a lie. nobody eats that shit.

sincerely, the south

>> No.5424592

>>5424571

Wow, those places must be new, I don't remember them when I lived there. The wine lists actually don't look embarrassing.

>> No.5424593

>>5420666
Satan please, Ohio is awful

>> No.5424594

>>5424592
Minneapolis is a changed place man.

>> No.5424601

>>5421552
But U.S. Barbeque is of African American, and Caribbean Native American origin. Or at least, the original barbeque was.

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>>5422345
I don't always hate them.

>> No.5424622

>>5424601
And Pasta comes from China. Adapting and changing things that originate somewhere else is how legitimate food cultures are made.

>> No.5424632

>>5424594
It must be because of all those somali.

>> No.5424639

>>5424364
This is b8

>> No.5424643

>>5424632

The somali had already been there a long time when I was there last. I think it's just internet foodie culture making people in MN more aware of food that isn't green bean casserole.

>> No.5424645

>>5424622
Exactly. In fact, real food culture is what the indigenous people in every country or continent. Everything else has been influenced by everything and everyone.

>> No.5424655
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5424655

>>5418611
>Says that there's no food culture in America
>Posts a pic of only the plebbest food available there to "prove" his point

I could post a pic of shitty doner kebab and ask "Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in Germany?"
I could post a pic of any McDonald's take out in Paris and ask "Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in France?"
I think you get the idea.

Not even American, by the way. I just wanted to say you're retarded. Or I just took the bait. Oh well.

>> No.5424657

>>5424655
>Or I just took the bait.
233 / 24
You wouldn't be the first.

>> No.5424920

>>5420699
Lol don't say that up in Cleveland or you'll get hit nigga

>> No.5424942

>>5424920
Okay, hick and nigger-infested.

>> No.5425170

>>5424405
But it is, unless you can prove otherwise

>> No.5425190

>>5424920
Ohio is the south of the north

>> No.5425199

1. Massachusetts
2. Minnesota
3. Wisconsin
4. Vermont
5. New York
6. New Hampshire
7. Iowa
8. Michigan
9. Pennsylvania
10. Illinois
11. Rhode Island
12. Connecticut
13. Indiana
14. Maine


9001. New Jersey
9002. Ohio

>> No.5425322

I've decided I'd like to defend the Midwest, since it's getting knocked around a lot in this thread.

Admittedly, there aren't going to be as many good restaurants that rely on culture fusion. And if you live in the suburbs, you're probably not going to find much better than chains. But, living in Iowa, I've found that the more rural areas have a pretty strong culture of hunting and farming. Quelle Surprise. And those local dishes, the kinds that you share with your family and community, can be pretty great. My grandfather makes fantastic squirrel, and I'm pretty sure I'm not going to find a replacement for that very easily.

>> No.5425324

>>5425322
>And if you live in the suburbs, you're probably not going to find much better than chains
I really haven't found that to be the case at all in the midwest, but I'm from the upper midwest, its probably worse as you go south

>> No.5425325

>>5425199
Why Massachusetts?

Also, switch Wisconsin and Minnesota and I'm happy.

>> No.5425327

>>5425199
>massholes
>#1 at anything
learn to drive you fucks

>> No.5425329

>>5425324
I find it to be fairly accurate for Iowa, and, outside of the Twin Cities, pretty accurate Minnesota as well. That's all just anecdotal, though.

>> No.5425330

>>5425329
Does Minnesota have suburbs besides the suburbs of the twin cities?

>> No.5425332

>>5425330
Rochester is one big suburb.

>> No.5425340

>>5425325
Yeah, Wisconsin and Minnesota are pretty similar, but Wisconsin is probably a little better

>> No.5425350

>>5425199
US CITY POWER RANKINGS

1 NYC
2 CHICAGO
3 SF
4 LA
5 BAWWWSTON

>> No.5425358

>>5425350
living in one of the largest cities is almost never a good idea

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5425363

>>5425358
YOU MEAN FOR WHEN IT HAPPENINGS

FULL SCALE NUKYOOLAR EXCHANGE
TOE 2 TOE WITH THE ROOSKIES

>> No.5425368

>>5425350
Louisiana isnt a city

>> No.5425382

>>5425358

Bullshit, the competition drives up quality like mad in crowded cities. NYC may be one of the most expensive cities on earth but you can still get a god-tier meal for as little as $3 just because that's what you have to do to attract business.

>> No.5425386

>>5425382
>ut you can still get a god-tier meal for as little as $3
im a skeptic

>> No.5425393

>>5425386
I got off the subways in the east village and there would be decent pizza slices for under 2 bucks. That's my anecdotal evidence for the day. Also i'm a different anon.

>> No.5425397

>>5425382
I don't mean just food. I mean all around. You can get great food in any city pretty easily. There is just so much more bullshit you need to deal with in the largest cities, from it taking forever to get anywhere, to inflated prices and overcrowding

>> No.5425398

>>5425393
>decent pizza slices
>under 2 bucks

What year was that? Because in 2014, that's not happening.

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5425401

>>5425363

>> No.5425414
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>>5425398
2012. Not that long ago. And I was just as surprised as you are.
Pic relates cheap pizza in the east village.

>> No.5425415

>>5418611
There are many and they each have good stuff. Many European cuisine is based off new world ingredients and is not all that much older than the US.

>> No.5425416

>>5425414

That shit is disgusting. You said "decent pizza".

>> No.5425424

>>5425416
That is disgusting but I don't remember the place that I passed by so I used an easy to good picture example instead.

>> No.5425441

>>5425424

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but somehow I suspect you just have a case of the low standards.

>> No.5425519

>>5418611
>Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in America?

Anglo-Saxons can't into food, basically.

They also kinda killed a lot of Americans and denied that the survivors were American.

>> No.5425529

>>5420161
>italians have been around for what? forever? france?

Italy's been founded after the Napolenoic Wars. Conveniently enough, that was also roughly the time when French Food culture as we know it got codified.

>>5424655
>I could post a pic of shitty doner kebab and ask "Why didn't a legitimate food culture ever develop in Germany?"

Ain't Döner Kebap basically something invented in order to serve a german customer basis though?

>> No.5425944

>>5425329
Iowa has some good local favorites. Check out the Quad Cities area.

>> No.5425994

>>5425944
There are plenty of good restaurants in Iowa. 80% of people anywhere are plebs, but there's enough population and money in the cities to support a few good ones. I live in downtown Des Moines and I probably have half a dozen fusion/modern restaurants within a few blocks of my apartment.

>> No.5426042

>>5422884
Spanish food is nothing NOTHING like south american food.

>> No.5426116
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5426116

>>5418611
>legitimate food culture
>never developed in America

You mean like this legitimate example in the UK?

>> No.5426121

>troll thread
>260+ posts
this board is de/ck/ay

>> No.5426134

>>5418650
This is one of the most retarded things I have ever wasted time reading. Please get a vasectomy so you don't pollute the future with your cretinous seed.

>> No.5426633

>>5425944
I'm actually from the Quad Cities, and I totally agree. I actually think they've been getting a lot better the last 5-10 years, especially all the development on the river. Plus Ribfest.

>> No.5426663

>>5422727
hah no
look up tasting menus for any major city on the us's coasts.

>> No.5426673

>>5425350
>LA
>Chicago
>better than Boston
hah

>> No.5426856

>>5426633

hell there's a falafel place in Bettendorf now. in BETTENDORF. granted it's like 1 of 2 in the whole area but that's still a far cry from a decade ago.