/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5338015]

Hold on a minute.

Is this "American Cheese" thing actually for real? Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

Holy shit I thought it was a joke. What the fuck?

The only times you ever see this sort of "cheese" where I'm from is in shitty cheap McDonalds food or those cancerous microwaveable "burgers" that you get from fuel stations.

[Anonymous No.5338029]

Yes you discovered fake cheese. Great job!

[Anonymous No.5338043]

>The only times you ever see this sort of "cheese" where I'm from is in shitty cheap McDonalds food or those cancerous microwaveable "burgers" that you get from fuel stations.

Yes, because its cheap and melts easily and uniformly.

However nobody considers using it for any other application then burgers/grilled cheese.

Do you have any other retarded and ignorant questions?

[Anonymous No.5338062]

>>5338015
>Is this "American Cheese" thing actually for real?

Yes. Kraft Singles is the most widely sold brand, but there are a lot of off-brands.

>Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

Kind of a dumb question, since it varies widely. That type of cheese (product) is mostly used for burgers and sandwiches. Eating cheese as a snack isn't as much of a thing in America as it is in Europe.

That's not to say it's unheard of at all. You can get good cheese here and a lot of people do. The Kraft Singles, though, is everywhere and it may be the only cheese low-income people know of, save for mozzarella and parmesan on their pizza.

[Anonymous No.5338083]

>>5338015
> another fucking American cheese thread

There are two different kinds of it, the fake individually wrapped shit (processed cheese food product) and real processed cheese that has nothing in it but cheese (processing is for texture and meltability)

[Anonymous No.5338085]

>>5338015
Yes, it's real cheese. It's not all that good, but it works great for grilled cheese and melting over a burger.

[Anonymous No.5338089]

>>5338015
If you mean "do we consider American Cheese singles to be cheese", then yes.
Excluding legal redefinitions to call it "cheese product" instead of cheese, the cultural definition of cheese includes that stuff, alongside Cheez-Wiz and fake cheeze on top of Totinos party pizzas and other things.

I don't know why people get uppity about Kraft singles, which are merely a small portion of the cheese consumption. They would do better to realize that the vast majority of Americans eat nothing but processed "cheese" which is no better.

[Anonymous No.5338092]

>>5338029
homie look like action bronson

[Anonymous No.5338094]

>>5338015
First of all calm down spaz. Second of all no none of us here consider it normal cheese. Were fully aware it's cheese product. I love American "cheese" because I grew up with it but I still enjoy Swiss and Parmesan quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.5338112]

>>5338092

[Anonymous No.5338139]

mfw troll thread

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.5338466]

>Is this "American Cheese" thing actually for real? Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

It is not actually considered cheese by the FDA, and it really only has a few uses. No, it's not "normal cheese", just "cheese that goes on a burger". The most common "normally consumed" cheeses might be cheddar or mozzarella.

That said, there are actual cheeses that originated here in America, such as Colby fucking Jack, which do taste good.

[Anonymous No.5339186]

Is American cheese bad for your health or something? I find it to be better than cheddar on cheeseburgers, melts the way I expect it to instead of being a shiny plastic mess.

[Anonymous No.5339901]

>mfw went to a Wal-Mart and they called Boursin "origin of fine cheese". Babybel and vache kiri were "gourmet cheese".
I laughed so hard, you people have no idea what cheese actually is. It's like the comic version of Thor compared to the real God, you make everything cheesier, even cheese. Please rot in despair and ignorance America.

[Anonymous No.5339955]

>>5339901
>compared to the real God

Nice technique, furthering the original shitpost but also including a sidehook to a sub-derail about religion in case the first topic loses steam. You're a true artist of the craft.

[Anonymous No.5339992]

OP, I just put american cheese in my eggs. You mad bruh?

[Anonymous No.5340005]

>>5338029
offtopic but i'm so sad this guy got banned. US is the only place i've seen where mtg players are just thoroughly disgusting like this. He shouldn't have gotten banned for making light of it. If you can afford a standard, EDH, and modern deck, you can afford a fucking belt

on topic: this cheese is pretty much plastic but works on cheap shitty meals when you're broke. When I lived in the US I used to melt this garbage on tortilla chips for terrible "nachos." It does work okay for ham and cheese melts and ofc, grilled cheese. Australia has an equivalent which is called "tasty" cheese

[Anonymous No.5341643]

>>5338043
>implying nobody makes Rotel dip out of a can of Rotel chili and a block of Velveeta

[Anonymous No.5342157]

>>5338062
It's funny as fuck to me when Americans speak of some very regular every day cheese as if they had made some amazing discovery.

What gets annoying is when they name "Swiss" cheese as if that were an actual single kind of cheese like gouda or tilsiter.

[Anonymous No.5342159]

>Is this "American Cheese" thing actually for real?
Yes.

>Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?
No.

[Anonymous No.5342164]

>>5338083
>and real processed cheese

You say that like it's a good thing. It's not.

[Anonymous No.5342174]

>>5339992
consume at own risk.

captcha: starvation kiltur

[Anonymous No.5342187]

Why do non-americans have such an inferiority complex?

[Anonymous No.5342223]

I buy REAL American Cheese for burgers and melts. Which is processed into thin slices and also so it melts easier. It's just a very creamy, very mild cheddar style cheese.

Kraft /tastes/ good but I don't think its a /real/ cheese.

I buy swiss, moz, sharp cheddar, guyere, munster. Depends on how I feel. Regularly have a few saltines and some slices of cheese for a snack.

[Anonymous No.5342252]

>>5342157
>"Swiss" cheese
It is to us. It's basically what you folks call Emmenthaler. So we named it differently, so what, so sue us. Oh, wait, you are.

[Anonymous No.5342263]

>>5342252
WE did what they want. Yet the still cry.

[Anonymous No.5342270]

>>5338015
Yes, that is the height of American "cuisine".

[Anonymous No.5342275]

Oh boy another thread of people bitching about kraft singles.
ITS NOT FUCKING CHEESE.
IT DOESNT SAY ITS CHEESE.
ITS FAKE SHIT YOU PUT ON GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICHES.
THAT IS ALL.

[Anonymous No.5342290]

>>5338029
Is that the fedora tipper guy?

[Anonymous No.5342304]

>>5338015
>another european bitching about cheese slices

god damnit, give it a rest

[Anonymous No.5342312]

it is not really actual cheese
americans think its cheese and they put it on everything
trying to find actual sharp cheddar in usa is difficult
if you do find cheddar marked as sharp its really barely mild
americans have no clue what cheese is

[Anonymous No.5342376]

>>5338015
>Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?
Yep, also Americans are fat and can't read. We all know that they're not as cultured or industrious as le Europeans.

>What the fuck?
It's cheap and melts uniformly. I've rarely seen it used outside of grilled cheese or burgers.

I've heard that "processed ham & processed cheese on white Wonderbread" is a popular lunch dish over here but I've never seen anyone eat it and I've never met anyone who's eaten one. I think it's an urban myth.

[Anonymous No.5342394]

>>5339901
> implying Walmart is to ever be taken seriously as a set example.
How trashy are you, shopping at Walmart yourself? Many, many Americans never step a foot into walmart. It's a laughing stock here.
But then, I don't know why I'm bothering to respond, you're obviously a troll. Maybe it's the hopefulness in me, but I have a hard time believing anyone is this stupid.

[Anonymous No.5342402]

>>5338015
>Is this "American Cheese" thing actually for real? Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

Yes. From my experience American white women love putting this shit on everything and if a sandwich needs cheese this is the first thing they reach for.

Some places just melt this processed cheese onto anything as the sole topping, cheese dogs for example. American women want their things flavored with fat and grease. American men want what white women do except they pile on as many sauces/spices as possible so the actual taste of the ingredients are lost completely.

[Anonymous No.5342404]

>>5342312
Blatant lies. All of it. You're either too stupid to grocery shop, or you're just a shitposter. Probably both.

[Anonymous No.5342405]

>>5342402
Racist.

[Anonymous No.5342409]

>>5342405
Go slather more ranch on your pizza honky

[Anonymous No.5342414]

>>5342409
Racist.

[Anonymous No.5342433]

>>5339901
>Babybel and vache kiri were "gourmet cheese"

[Anonymous No.5342435]

>>5342252

>It's basically what you folks call Emmenthaler.

nah it's just similar.

>So we named it differently, so what, so sue us.

can't you see how it's kind of a dumb name?

>>5342394

>How trashy are you

as trashy as the vast majority of americans?


you guys defending the states are lame. you have some shitty products, just admit it because every industrialised nation does.

[Anonymous No.5342443]

>>5340005
>>5338029
I fucking love mtg but I fucking hate the players

there are always a couple of cool people there but then there's the 99%

the fat, smelly, butthurt 99%

[Anonymous No.5342460]

>>5342435

I'm American, and it's true.

But you can still get the same quality of stuff here if you pay more, and when you take into account European tax, it's really not all that different.

[Shirley !gNKqagWUwc No.5342462]

>>5342435
the 'States have a few good things.

Yeah, the fucking Kraft 'cheese' is bullshit. I actually hate it, fuck I make my own mozarella and use that instead if I can help it. Does make good grilled cheeses but dear fucking god it's nasty for anything else.

>>5342394
Walmart is good for when you... Need to find something. Chances are, they'll have it. It may not be GOOD, but it'll work.

>>5338015
Don't. Call. That. American. Cheese.

Seriously fucking don't, it's Kraft tire cheese. That's all it is. Good for grilled cheeses but not much else.

Muenster is a literal American cheese, and not the fucking farce you Europeans keep assuming all Americans think is 'cheese'.

[Anonymous No.5342467]

im from the mid west originally but i live in california and grew up here. when i go back to chicago to visit my mom she and everyone else there always buys this cheese but she buys me real cheese cause she knows i dont like kraft cheese. even on grilled cheese its to meh for me, i prefer colby jack as my go to sandwich/burger cheese. swiss/ cheddar as sandwich fodder and for over all snacking i go with manchego or a this lovely pesto jack i can only get in California. only process cheese i enjoy on occasion is the fake nacho cheese that taco bell puts on their nachos, its really good but its really more of a sauce than a cheese, and i rarely eat taco bell, like a once a month thing

[Anonymous No.5342823]

>>5338015
I am American, and I hate that "cheese"

[Anonymous No.5342827]

this is about all american cheese is good for

[Anonymous No.5342929]

>>5342827
Covering lard?

[Anonymous No.5342934]

>>5342827
Ham and cheese.

[Anonymous No.5342973]

>>5338015
It's eaten but its in no way considered "normal cheese" - it's a cheaper alternative for the lower class.

[Anonymous No.5342997]

>>5342827
I feel bad for the cheese.

[Anonymous No.5343063]

>>5342312
That's why Vermont cheddar is some of the best cheese in the world right?

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5343070]

People keep saying that american singles are good for grilled cheese. This bothers me. Grate some blend of cheddar, Gouda, gruyere, fontina. It will change your life

American singles are only good for a burger IMO. Fuck those on a grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.5343084]

>Run a sub stand at an amusement park
>Spend all winter making the menu, sourcing local ingredients and making homemade dressings and such
>Offer a Make Your Own sub, or combos with chips and a drink
>The list of everything on the sub is printed in big letters next to the sandwich
>Sign that says you can add/remove from combo sandwiches if you want
>People Order Italian/Turkey subs without reading whats on them (It was printed right next to the sub's name)
>Get about 10% of the subs back asking for "real cheese"
>By real cheese they mean American (White/Yellow)
>People complain that they weren't given white rolls (Sometimes we used Honey Oat/Wheat/Spinach rolls depending on the sandwich)
>Some people complain we made homemade kettle chips (its on the menu) and not Lay's
>Get so many customer complains my shop gets put on probation for this season
>85% of the complaints were "false advertising" or complains about cheese, sandwiches not having what they wanted

So glad im done my degree this year, and already have a job lined up

[Anonymous No.5343091]

>>5343070
This. I have very rarely used deli american on burgers, but there's a thousand better cheeses for grilled cheese than that crap. I'm also bothered by the notion that people think it's okay for grilled cheese. It's not even the best cheese for burgers, unless you are specifically looking to make a hamburger stand/fast food type of burger. I'd still rather have cheddar, or muenster, or pepper jack, or mothafucking jarlsberg on a burger than that stuff.

[Anonymous No.5343108]

>>5343084
Your post made me irrationally angry. I hate people. I purposely DON'T order subs that have american cheese on them, or pick it off if it's on there. I can excuse american on a regular old burger, because it's melted on the patty (although I don't really like that either), but on cold subs? Fuck NO. Not ever. Not even once.
>american cheese
>white rolls
>lay's
So much disgust....

[Anonymous No.5343640]

>>5338015
Nobody in america considers that to be normal cheese. It's self-mockery, because it's overprocessed. Just like all the other food in america, is the joke.

[Anonymous No.5343645]

>>5343070
They are good for grilled cheese. I've had both and they're good for different reasons.

[Anonymous No.5343651]

>>5343084
Your marketing is off, hope your degree wasn't in business

[Anonymous No.5343759]

>>5338015

[Anonymous No.5343785]

>>5342443
You love the game but hate the players? You're doing it all wrong son.

[Anonymous No.5343788]

How is crackle barrel cheese? That's the kind I use for sandwiches. It takes a helluva a lot better than those gross singles. They're only good in grilled cheeses.

[Anonymous No.5343822]

>>5343084
Out of curiosity, what cheeses were you using that people considered 'fake'? Also, where is this amusement park?

>5 bucks says it's the south

[Anonymous No.5343840]

atleast our cream cheese aint salty ass fuck bitch nikka

[Anonymous No.5343842]

None of us think it's cheese either. The only people who eat it are children, walmart whales, and college students trying to ironically horde their lost youth. Go away.

[Anonymous No.5343853]

I grew up in the US and I never tried American "cheese" until I was 22 and my friend put it on a homemade burger. I almost spit it out. It doesn't taste anything like cheese, its just a weird milk paste unless you are really used to it.

I ate fast food growing up, but I was a chicken nugget kid.

[Anonymous No.5343896]

Hold on a minute.

Is this "Swiss Cheese" thing actually for real? Is this actually what Swiss consider to be "normal cheese"?

Holy shit I thought it was a joke. What the fuck?

The only times you ever see this sort of "cheese" where I'm from is in shitty cheap BevMo store or those cancerous "cheese platters" that you get from fuel stations.

[Anonymous No.5343898]

>>5343896
It doesn't normally have a mouse in it.

[Anonymous No.5343918]

>>5338083
Processed cheese? As opposed to cheese caught in the wild?

[Anonymous No.5343929]

>>5343896

>you will never find a mouse bro in your cheese

[Anonymous No.5343941]

America is large and its grocery stores are massive, people can get pretty much whatever they want easily

[Anonymous No.5343951]

American cheese is my secret shame. I don't even consider it to be actual cheese but goddamn i can't stay away. Once in a while i'll give in and just put it on doughy-ass white bread with mayo and make grilled cheese, and then end up feeling greasy. Other times i just buy a pack and eat the singles one by one until i hate myself for being so weak. I cannot resist the processed temptress of my childhood.

[Anonymous No.5343955]

its all we really ever have except around xmas, then we get a cheese ball or 2 to spread on crackers. Recently though I have been buying little bricks of pepperjack for my deli sammys, and starting to like that. But so much more inconvenient as just packaged slices. Will have to look around and see what all else comes in slices.

[Anonymous No.5343958]

>>5340005
>so sad this guy got banned
Hold the fucking phone. Source?

[Anonymous No.5343962]

American cheese is amazing for getting your dog to eat its pills

that's the only thing I ever use it for, its squishes together so well it seems made for it

[Anonymous No.5343963]

>>5338015
>implying all Americans consider that shit real cheese

[Anonymous No.5343964]

>>5343958
the whole thing was on reddit like a month ago. Guy just went around posing in front of peoples ass cracks all day. Same pose and like 30 pictures

[Anonymous No.5343968]

The name "American cheese" came about for it because during WWII, when everything was rationed and getting good anything was difficult, this stuff became the norm and was issued to soldiers. For a few months it was also the only "cheese" legally available for purchase in the U.S.. Foreigners saw U.S. soldiers eating this stuff and started calling it American cheese.

Post-war it was also provided by the government to the public as part of welfare programs back when actual food stamps had to be traded in for a select items, where it was known as "government cheese" or "American government cheese".

[Anonymous No.5343998]

>>5343962
>spoiler

[Anonymous No.5344001]

>>5343968
It should be renamed eagle cheese, freedumb cheese, or liberty cheese.

[Anonymous No.5344002]

I'm disgusted at the replies that claim that Americans as a whole "do not consider this real cheese and we know it's a cheese product".

That's fucking bullshit and you know it. Stop lying to foreigners. If you genuinely believe what you wrote, then you're probably one of those people who thinks that the average /ck/ poster is representative of the average American.

OP, most Americans *are* aware of other cheese and may prefer them, but most Americans don't know that American cheese is not really cheese and are perfectly fine with eating it in place of real cheese.

inb4
>you must live in a flyover state lol
>yuroproxy detected
>Listen faggot, I'm from Wisconsin and

[Anonymous No.5344023]

>>5344002
American cheese is real cheese, the only reason its not labelled as such in america is because makers of other kinds of cheese successfully lobbied the government to exclude it

Its just one of countless variations of cheese, and when done well is fucking delicious (but like many other products, the most well known is a the cheapest and shittiest variety) Judging american cheese based on the Kraft variety is like saying american beer is like Bud Light

[Anonymous No.5344032]

>>5344002
>but most Americans don't know that American cheese is not really cheese and are perfectly fine with eating it in place of real cheese.
Please explain how its not real cheese even though it is. Please do not say because politicians say so.

Also, there are very many applications where it should be used just as you would plenty of other types of cheese, the fact that you think there is something wrong with this shows you have no clue what is going on

[Anonymous No.5344033]

>>5343898
Mouse cheese is best cheese.

>inb4 eurowop raving about his maggot-infested rotted bovine lactation

[Anonymous No.5344038]

>>5342435
>can't you see how it's kind of a dumb name?
As opposed to naming your cheese after the town of Parma, or the town of Wensleydale?

[Anonymous No.5344044]

>>5344002
if that is the case then why would restaurants offer other types of cheeses instead of american cheese if most people think american cheese is real cheese and fine to use?

[Anonymous No.5344046]

>>5344032
>Please explain how its not real cheese

They don't put oil and emulsifiers in real cheese, pour it out on a slab slice and package it without aging it.

Cheese is coagulated milk that gets aged and develops flavor. American cheese is just coagulated milk and other crap that gets packaged

There is a reason they aren't allowed to call it cheese

[Anonymous No.5344051]

>>5344046
>They don't put oil and emulsifiers in real cheese
It has all of the ingredients of other cheeses, just more

Cheese does not have a strict definition, you can put shit in cheese and its still cheese

>There is a reason they aren't allowed to call it cheese
Yeah, government bureaucrats

[Anonymous No.5344052]

>>5344046
they call it cheese product. right on the package.

[Anonymous No.5344054]

>>5344051
no one is saying it doesnt have the ingredients that normal cheese has, we are saying because it contains other shit, and isnt made through the same process then it makes no sense to consider it to be real cheese.

also if the same government that allows hershey's to be sold as chocolate doesnt consider american cheese to be real cheese you know something is up

[Anonymous No.5344055]

>>5344046
please stop basing your view of american cheese on the very worst and cheapest variety, it makes you sound dumb

[Anonymous No.5344057]

>>5344054
>and isnt made through the same process
but it is, they just do other stuff to it afterwards.

[Anonymous No.5344058]

>>5344057
so how is it the same?

[Anonymous No.5344063]

>>5344058
its a variation. Not all cheeses are made with identical processes, there are dramatically different ways to make cheese which share a few basic things also shared by this product, just because you are mad at it doesn't make this variation less cheese than any other variant

[Anonymous No.5344064]

say what you want but american cheese slices is fucking delicious

[Anonymous No.5344066]

>>5338015
American cheese is a variety processed cheese. Like Velveeta but in slices; I don't like how it's called American cheese because that implies implications that have too much basis in truth.

[Anonymous No.5344071]

>>5344038
Regional cheeses are named so because they are from that region. There's nothing Swiss about about American "Swiss" cheese. The Swiss are also great cheesemakers and there's a wide variety of great original cheeses being produced in Switzerland, so you see how it's insulting to call your whatever it is cheese Swiss.

[Anonymous No.5344073]

>>5344064
i threw up in my mouth

[Anonymous No.5344075]

>>5344064
They are "delicious" to you because they are full of MSG and other chemical artificial flavor enhancers.

[Anonymous No.5344077]

>>5344071
>Regional cheeses are named so because they are from that region.
kind of, but people move, there are no styles of cheese that cannot be replicated outside their original region, and a very large number of common cheeses are named after where immigrants who liked them came from.

Holding place designations in cheese to any sort of strict standard is just not good practice

[Anonymous No.5344080]

>>5344075
yeah MSG makes things taste good, cheese of any kind is loaded with it

[Anonymous No.5344082]

>>5344075
oh no, mr chemicals are scary because my liberal overlords ay so guy

Thanks a lot obama. Let me guess, you also think vaccines and GMOs are killing us all

[Anonymous No.5344104]

>>5344077
>people move
But regions don't.

>there are no styles of cheese that cannot be replicated outside their original region
You can copy the style but you won't achieve the same product. A cheese from the Alps for example is made with milk from cows that are grazing on fresh mountain herbs all day. You won't find the same combination of herbs anywhere else.

>>5344082
Actually, in my country a lot of neonazis are into organic farming. I'm personally also far from being a "liberal", at least in the bastardized American sense of the word.

The idea that overly processed food is bad is not something that is exclusive to American libshits. A lot of Libertarians and Tea Party people are also into organic dairy and grass fed beef. Liberals are mostly vegans so that really fucks over your claim.

Food is just something you shouldn't mess with. Living organisms need optimal nutrition to be healthy and thrive. Of course we get by on sub-par food but it leads to sickly people with chronical illnesses.

[Anonymous No.5344106]

>>5338015

American here, never grew up eating that on sandwiches, except sometimes it was in pasta sauce. or melted on nachos.

[Anonymous No.5344107]

>>5344082
Oh and GMOs are thankfully banned here. So I don't have to worry about that. You can have them all for yourself :)

[Anonymous No.5344112]

>>5344104
>but you won't achieve the same product
You certainly can. You can feed cows whatever you want

[Anonymous No.5344113]

>>5338015

It's poor people cheese / white trash cheese.

Everyone from the upper middle class and on are usually the type to go to Trader Joes or other markets and buy a million kinds of imported and domestic cheese, eat them on expensive crackers and paired with overpriced wine, and pretend to be cultured.

I do buy the typical american shredded cheese myself, mostly for making pizza. Other than that I have a block of parmesan, a container of goat cheese (I use it in eggs and to stuff chicken with), a wedge of blue cheese for steaks/salads, and fresh mozzarella for making caprese. Sometimes I have other stuff, because the market by where I live has a pretty big cheese aisle and there are usually free samples. Huckleberry goat cheese is pretty amazing.

[Anonymous No.5344114]

>>5344107
The idea of being grateful for having a Luddite government is hilarious

[Anonymous No.5344117]

>>5344104
>You can copy the style but you won't achieve the same product
Thats just not true, there are no styles of cheese that canot be replicated elsewhere, and very often the place where something originally was made doesn't even do it particularly well because they can fall back on tradition to trick consumers, makers in other regions have to do a better job to become successful so you end up with a superior product often

[Anonymous No.5344120]

>>5344113
Pretty sure cheeseburgers are the only thing most people actually use it for, maybe a few other types of sandwiches

[Anonymous No.5344127]

>>5344120

Maybe it's because I'm from the west coast, but I just don't see Velveeta very often. Like I said, some pasta recipes call for it, but other than that and nacho dip not often. They sell actual sliced cheddar cheaper in the stores here, maybe that's why.

[Anonymous No.5344128]

>>5344112
Oh boy.

[Anonymous No.5344132]

>>5343958
"Rumblings on Twitter indicate that he’s been banned from competing in Wizards Of The Coast-sanctioned tournaments or hosting Magic-related events for six months. That’s going to seriously delay his plans to open his own card shop. On the other hand, if you feel sorry for him, there’s also a change.org petition you can sign to bring him back into the flock."

http://www.avclub.com/article/ass-crack-gazing-magic-playing-rapper-creates-perf-202105

[Anonymous No.5344133]

>>5344128
If you really wanted to you could figure out exactly which organic chemicals are in these elusive herbs that only grow in exactly one hamlet in the alps and straight up put them in your cow's food. Diets are never unique and unreplicable

[Anonymous No.5344139]

>>5344133
You do that. You'll be rich.

>>5344117
You should stick to burgers.

[Anonymous No.5344147]

>>5344106
>in pasta sauce or melted on nachos
What the ever loving fuck?!? Man, thank god I had parents with good taste and cooking abilities. I grew up in middle America, but we ate real cheese, not that crap, and if someone had put it in pasta sauce or on nachos, all hell would have broken loose.

[Anonymous No.5344148]

>>5344139
>You do that. You'll be rich.
why would that make me rich? People make good cheese of countless styles all over the place already. they definitely don't need me, the figured this out a long time ago

[Anonymous No.5344149]

>>5344139
what if we feed the cows bacon it will be epic! (&

[Anonymous No.5344151]

>>5344139
its not the 1700s anymore

[Anonymous No.5344153]

>>5344147
can't say I have ever seen it on pasta, but nachos seem like a perfectly reasonable use for it

Also "middle america" makes most of the countries best cheese, so not sure why living there would suggest bad cheese (unless if by middle america you mean the south)

[Anonymous No.5344158]

>>5344153
Maybe he means Mexico or central america.

[Anonymous No.5344161]

>>5343929
Dammit Raf Owens.

[Anonymous No.5344171]

>>5344153

It looked sort of like this

[Anonymous No.5344176]

>>5344171
probably tastes ok

[Anonymous No.5344178]

>>5344171
I VOMITED

[Anonymous No.5344180]

>>5344171
we have that kind of thing all the time here, its just fine

[Anonymous No.5344183]

>>5344178
>female

[Anonymous No.5344185]

>>5343651
I mean I grossed enough to pay all my bills, put 5k away for next season, and walk away with around 4k for the semester. This season we changed it so you just pick what kind of cheese you want on the sandwich no matter what

>Tfw Information Technology Management and Business Management double major

>>5343822
Yep its in Alabama (Help me please)
>Cheddar
>Pepperjack
>Cooper Sharp

>Smear blue cheese on the roll of the bun for the buffalo chicken tender sandwich
>A few people a week would ask what the blue stuff is/say the cheese was moldy

[Anonymous No.5344191]

>>5344185
god damn that place sounds terrible

[Anonymous No.5344214]

>>5344178

Why? It's pretty good tasting, although terribly unhealthy. I think it was just noodles, velveeta and butter sauce, some herbs, chunks of chicken, and sun-dried tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.5344286]

>>5344185
>say the cheese was moldy

I laughed out aloud but technically they are correct with that statement.

Be glad you didn't use any goat's cheese. I bet some people would've accused you of devil worship if they had found out.

[Anonymous No.5344342]

>be 17
>take date to applebees
>both order a salad first, some kind of shrimp salad with cheese
>get salad, take bite, tastes nasty. Tell waitress I think the cheese had gone moldy
>she says its blue cheese, supposed to taste like that
>ask her to take it back and bring us salads with normal cheese

>eat salads, both of us have one of the steak entrees.
>get check, ask meal to be comped due to the bad salad. Get meal on the house, free dinner coupons for future use
>free meal, not sure what to do for tip. leave $2
>thanks yucky blue cheese

[Anonymous No.5344366]

>>5344342
you're a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.5344378]

>>5344342
Underage faggot

[Anonymous No.5344395]

>>5344342

>shrimp salad with blue cheese

Jesus Christ why would anyone do that. I love blue cheese but I would never try and pair it with seafood of any kind

[Anonymous No.5344412]

>>5344378
this was in like..shit wait. I grad at 18 in 2003, dated maggie junior year in 2002, this was with heather so 2001, I was 16 then, my bad.

>>5344395
I'm wanting to think shrimp cause I know it wasn't steak, we had that with our entree. maybe it was just a plain salad though, long time ago. meh

>>5344366
I remember other dates I took there came between 20 and 30 bucks so I just rounded down. Was raised up on 10% tipping rate so $2 seemed right

[Anonymous No.5345017]

>>5344191
It's Alabama, what do you expect?

Saw a license plate frame one day:
HAPPINESS IS ALABAMA
IN YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR

[Anonymous No.5345020]

>>5344038

>As opposed to naming your cheese after the town of Parma

yes, as opposed to that, you fucking moron.

did you even think about how shitty a comparison that is before you posted?

[Anonymous No.5345024]

>>5344063

nigga it's like 10 percent actual cheese shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.5345201]

The only Americans who think it's normal cheese are retarded. Most people eat normal shit like cheddar mozzarella brie. "american cheese" is something really low class uneducated families eat.

[Anonymous No.5345329]

Deli worker here, There are three types of people that buy american "cheese."
>Grossly overweight people.
>Completely uninformed people. (I usually get them to at least switch to colby/jack)
>Mothers of schoolchildren who need cheap lunches for their kids. (Still better than lunchroom slop, right?)

[Anonymous No.5345394]

There is a HUGE difference between Kraft Singles and true American cheese (Boar's Head, Land O Lakes).

[Anonymous No.5345409]

>>5338094
>Thinking "swiss" cheese and parmesan are any better examples of what counts as "cheese".
>>5339186
You're using shitty cheddar then, get yourself an extra mature cheddar, or some smoked cheddar like applewood or something, instead of using processed 'plastic' cheddar.

[Anonymous No.5345429]

>>5338466
>mozzarella

Don't you mean mozz? Or mozzarell'? Are you not cool?

[Anonymous No.5345439]

>>5345409
>You're using shitty cheddar then

he's not using bad cheddar. Cheddar is sharp. It overpowers the flavor of the burger, it's too salty, it's just TOO STRONG altogether. It doesn't belong on a burger.

Having said that - at in-n-out they use real american cheese. It looks almost the same, tastes MUCH BETTER, but it is NOT Kraft singles.

The problem is Americans don't know how fake their country is and CONSTANTLY buy this shit. Unless you're "into" food, which most of you on this "cooking/food board" are... then you will only have one type of cheese and one type of bread in your house - Kraft and Wonderbread.

I know this because I live here. I'm American. But I love food. Once I discovered the difference, I never bought Kraft cheese again and looked down on others that did. But they don't give a shit. It's yellow and it melts. That's all they care about.

99% of Americans are straight up plebs. Straight up.

> other things I don't eat:
> Hershey's chocolate
> Lipton Tea (i don't care if its british. its american culture, its the only tea they give anywhere and ITS NOT FUCKING TEA. Give me a nice indian blend that actually smells like something)
> I can't believe it's not butter and other veggie spreads.
> Fucking vanilla ice cream. Pleb ass flavor. Sweet cream or straight up milk ice cream is the best. Fuck vanilla.
> American pastries
> American cakes
> American breads.

Basically, to eat good in this country, you have to become an elitist pretentious snob and seek out other hipsters to go to wine and cheese parties to. I'm just not willing to sell that much of my soul. I hate plebs but I hate elitists more.

> Kraft on burgers = shit
> Cheddar on burgers = shit
> Real American Cheese on burgers = the shit.

[Anonymous No.5345441]

>>5344185
>A few people a week would ask what the blue stuff is/say the cheese was moldy

But they are right

[Anonymous No.5345443]

>>5345429

no,no. I like the way Tony Soprano says it.

moo-tsa-réll.

"I know a guy, he's a real Italian. He makes his own prosciutto, capicola, MooTzaRéll!

[Anonymous No.5345585]

>>5342290
No some guy that went to a faggot convention and took pictures of himself near exposed butt

[Anonymous No.5345600]

No, actually real American cheese is a little bit like cheddar. You can find it at your grocery store's deli.

[Anonymous No.5345606]

>>5342402
>>5342405
>>5342409
>>5342414

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.5345616]

>>5345201
Kraft singles is not american cheese though. It's just processed shit.

[Anonymous No.5345620]

American cheese started as an effort to combine farm subsidies and food rationing during war. It was a combination of cheddar and colby jack, sourced from many daries and melted together in a factory.

Some American cheeses are still essentially this, while many other brands decided to skip the whole "cheesemaking" part and use whey powder as the starting point. Still others skip the whole "milk" thing and start from soy oil and proteins. There is, however, still "American Cheese" which is actually cheese. In a way, it's an odd microcosm of our culture: the whole melting pot, homogeneity, tasteless, etc.

What we call "Swiss Cheese" is what the Swiss would call "papier toilette" or something along those lines. Ours tastes like bitter rubber, while comparable cheeses there are far less bitter, and have excellent nutty notes. There are still sometimes holes, that's probably the only similarity.

[Anonymous No.5345621]

>>5344082

>liberal overlord

lelkek

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.5345623]

>>5344114

The idea of living in the fattest nation on Earth with one of the highest per-capita rates of heart disease is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.5345626]

>>5345623

everyone keeps saying this, but I've never been to the midwest or down south, and everyone in California, New York, Florida, and Texas (the four states I've been to) are perfectly fit and skinny.

You see the occasional scooterfat, but honestly I doubt it is any more common then in the UK.

Also, I keep hearing this bullshit about "limey brits" or some shit. About... their crooked teeth and nasty food, weird elitism. But every Brit i've met in person was very nice, and had perfect teeth.

Are we all living in a cartoon? because noone of this makes any sense to me.

[Anonymous No.5345639]

>>5345623
I can tell you've never been here. Here in California I rarely see a fatty.

[Anonymous No.5345646]

>>5345639

No, I'm in Canada, and we're high on the list of fattest countries too. I don't see fatties everywhere in Quebec or BC, where I've lived, but when I went through Alberta, or when I spent time in Ontario they were visible. Of course every state isn't going to be fat, but as a whole, the UK, Canada and USA are indeed, the world's fattest

[Anonymous No.5345647]

>>5345639

right? it's actually the opposite. Bunch of whiny vegetarian skeletons running around. Shit looks like Diablo II when I walk out on a sunday morning.

[Anonymous No.5345653]

>>5345646

> but as a whole, the UK, Canada and USA are indeed, the world's fattest

dude, you need to read a book called "How to Lie With Statistics" by Darrell Huff, Irving Geis.

It explains how statistics are UTTERLY USELESS and complete crap. Just because they sample a certain group of people and represent them according to a national scale, MEANS NOTHING. Because you can't group the fat americans and the skinny americans in the same group - they are like different races! different nations!

Here in Cali, we're basically European. New York they have to walk everywhere or catch the subway. They're fit.

I can't think of ANY place that is just full of fatties. Your "world's fattest" means fucking nothing to me. I live in a great city and with a bunch of skinny assholes. I WISH i could find a bunch of jolly fatburgers. Those guys are nice. They'll hook you up with a beer.

[Anonymous No.5345655]

>>5343063

who told you the best cheese in the world is Vermont Ched??
XD

hahaha

[Anonymous No.5345662]

>>5345647

It's not because of their diet. It's because of all the hard stimulants

[Anonymous No.5345671]

>>5345653

I actually read that book, and agree to a certain point. But...

It doesn't take a fucking genius or even statistical data to deduce the fact that the most affluent countries with the laziest diets are going to have more fat people. It will be different from region to region, but overall there will be a lot more than other countries. I'm even admitting the fact myself that my own country has got a lot of fat fucks, even though where I live, I don't see too many. Look at Rob Ford.

Americans just can't take criticism

[Anonymous No.5345674]

>>5345655

>some of the best

that's not what anon said. Says that it is some of the best, not the very best. New England is pretty good for milk products

[Anonymous No.5345677]

>>5345662

yeah, man. Nobody is talking about the Meth epidemic, but that shit is BLOOOWING up. More people do meth in hollywood then they do coke. Heroin's coming back, too. Good coke is too hard to find these days unless you're rich.

But the truth is not because they're on stimulants but because they're whiny turds. I am sort of a liberal, at least relative to the middle. But... jeez. You see some people with entirely way too much freedom here.

All they talk about is how things appear. Not what things actually are. Like they'll talk about shit on the news that happenned thousands of miles away but if you dare to ask them about their own life they'll be like "omgosh, you're totally violating my private space right now."

i know i don't make sense. I can't explain it rationally. It's just a hate towards non-homosexual faggotry in all its flavors.

Why can't people wear jeans and a white t-shirt, throw a ball around, and have a lemonade stand? What fucking happenned to america....

[Anonymous No.5345683]

>>5345671
>It doesn't take a fucking genius or even statistical data to deduce the fact that the most affluent countries with the laziest diets are going to have more fat people.

Deosn't matter. You can't live in every place in a country at the same time. If you don't like living in fat town, move to skinny town.

> Americans just can't take criticism
most people can't, not just Americans. But as an American, I agree. Americans have very strange ideas and one of them is their idea of blind patriotism. Back in the day that meant something. It means jack shit right now.

Anyway, bottom line is - I don't give a shit about your generalizations and statistics. Come to my city, come to my home, eat my food, meet my friends. Only after that will I actually listen to your shit talking. Until then, I'll just consider your agression a symptom of Internet-borne Delusion. A common affliction these days. It's becoming an epidemic.

[Anonymous No.5345694]

>>5345683

Shut up fatso

[Anonymous No.5345695]

>>5338015
In case you didn't know that's Parmigiano and it tastes better than the real deal. It even wins 1st prize at all the big international cheese contests in France.

[Anonymous No.5345707]

>>5345694

lol ive always wanted to be fat. (always been a twig)

[Anonymous No.5345710]

>fromer uni flatmate from Springfield IL. comes to stay with me in the UK
>She's grating cheddar, making cheese sauce for a horseshoe burger
>"I cant get used to this cheese being white instead of yellow, it's just weird"
>mfw

Then I recovered my senses and hooked her in the gabber.

[Anonymous No.5345735]

>>5345710

> horseshoe burger. sounds interesting.
> probably a burger in a U-shape. No big deal.
> WHAT THE FUCK IS DIS SHIT

dude... i don't even. Is this like... fries instead of the bun? or ... you just .. you just bury the burger under the fries?? I went through a dozen photos I have no fucking idea what this is.

[Anonymous No.5345745]

>>5345710
>>5345735

phew... thank god this is /ck/ and not /b/. Left my personal email in the screenshot on my previous post. Was able to delete it before anyone noticed.

Anyway, like I was saying... WHAT THE FUCK IS DIS SHIT?? is this like fries instaed of the burger bun?? i went through a dozen photos i cant put my finger on it

[Anonymous No.5345755]

>>5345745

As she explained it to me, it's like a thick piece of toast, with a burger on top, with a pile of fries on that, and a sort of welsh rarebit sauce poured over it.

Some kind of Illinois local specialty apparently.

[Anonymous No.5345759]

>>5345755

Lol... it looks ridiculous. But honestly, i have no problems with the ingredients.

Was it good? Did you try it? I make shit like this all the time if I have to buy McDonalds lol

[Anonymous No.5345781]

>>5345439
What the fuck are you smoking? I know it's hip to rag on america, but at least make it believable. Even the poorest welfare nigger has had more than kraft and wonderbread.

[Anonymous No.5345784]

Most Americans have actually never ever eaten real cheese since their cheesemakers are free to just shit in a vat of milk and call it Parmesan.

>http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/03/12/europe-says-us-made-cheeses-cant-use-old-world-names/

>Meanwhile Europeans dine only on Parmesan from Parma while drinking Champagne from Champagne. We feast on Stilton only from Derbyshire, Leicestershire, or Nottinghamshire and we cook with Gorgonzola made in the northern Italian provinces situated around the the river Po.
>Frenchsnobslaughing.jpg

Before you try to excuse yourself by saying the place of Orgin doesn't matter: Your cheese isn't made the same way either. European Parmesan uses natural rennet ONLY. Kraft use microbial GMO fungus rennet in what they call "Parmesan", and in pretty much everything other cheese as well.

[Anonymous No.5345789]

>>5345759

It was alright actually. A bit heavy. Far better with a proper sauce with mustard/beer/worcestershire than the velveeta concoction she made at uni.

[Anonymous No.5345794]

>there are americans that are even defending their cancerous antics
I don't even see the point of this thread. Do people make threads when they realized there was a gravitational force holding the universe together?

I mean, these threads are needed in order to properly educate the ameritards, /b/fags, /k/hicks, and /pol/schizos that plague our board, but still.

[Anonymous No.5345798]

>>5345789

well, how is it compared to the closest thing i can think of - some chili cheese fries with extra chili and extra cheese?

[Anonymous No.5345813]

>>5345784

[Anonymous No.5345824]

>>5345798

Nowhere as flavourful. There's no escaping the fact its basically a burger, bread, potatoes and cheese.

[Anonymous No.5345826]

>>5338015
>Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

[Anonymous No.5345828]

>>5345813
>gif
Get with the times, grandpa

[Anonymous No.5345831]

>>5345828

You could have complained about it being a Tumblr gif.
But gifs still have their right and place to exist

[Anonymous No.5345840]

>>5345831
>But gifs still have their right and place to exist
An outdated format that only serves to waste bandwidth doesn't have a place anywhere but in the minds of retards, ebin gif meme lovers, and people that don't know how to make them

[Anonymous No.5345842]

>>5345840

Gifs are easier to edit (I presume) and can be displayed by anything.

[Anonymous No.5345852]

>>5345784
>To qualify as Roquefort, for example, cheese must be made from milk of a certain breed of sheep, and matured in the natural caves near the town of Roquefort-sur-Soulzon in the Aveyron region of France, where it is colonized by the fungus Penicillium roqueforti that grows in these caves.

Do you even have cheese caves in America?

[Anonymous No.5345863]

>>5345840
So is PNG.

[Anonymous No.5345864]

>>5345840

>talks about wasting bandwidth
>posts silly useless picture

[Anonymous No.5345870]

>>5345864
>silly useless picture
>on an imageboard
The main point is that considering the quality and time a gif takes to run, it's a fucking waste you moron.

>>5345842
>Gifs are easier to edit
The videos where you take the webm from are way easier to edit.

[Anonymous No.5345875]

>>5345870
>The videos where you take the webm from are way easier to edit.

They are? How?

[Anonymous No.5345880]

>>5345875
Google webm for retards and get a video editing tool.

[Anonymous No.5345883]

>>5345880

See, video editing tool. That's what you need.
And I'm sure you've got to render it to save your changes to the video. And then you have to convert it to Webm.

With gif, you just load it into your gif creator and edit it in there (if you have a good one).

[Anonymous No.5345969]

>>5345710

>white instead of yellow

but cheddar is yellow dude

[Anonymous No.5345985]

>>5345840

Ebin gif anon.

[Anonymous No.5346154]

>>5345439
>Cheddar is sharp. It overpowers the flavor of the burger, it's too salty, it's just TOO STRONG altogether
You're retarded.

How strong and how sharp a cheddar, or any cheese for that matter, is, depends on how long it has matured. There are many fresh and sour tasting young cheddars.

[Anonymous No.5346171]

>>5345620
The funny part about that is that the stuff we Europeans are disgusted by is the original molten down version. I think the newer stuff isn't even allowed to be sold here since it's not actually cheese and we're very protectionist about those kinds of things.

But yeah, that molten down stuff that constitutes "real" American cheese, that's what we're already disgusted with. If the other stuff is even worse, I don't even wanna know what it tastes like.

[Anonymous No.5346173]

>>5346154

even then, i prefer blue cheese on my burgers

[Anonymous No.5346178]

Only /ck/ can get this rustled over cheese

[Anonymous No.5346180]

believe it or not there is more than one cheese sold in the US
i know its alot to take in but just mull over that

[Anonymous No.5346186]

>>5345852
I don't think they do, anon.

[Anonymous No.5346237]

>>5346178
Someone should make a chicago style quiche with american cheese and ketchup.

[Anonymous No.5346249]

>Is this actually what Americans consider to be "normal cheese"?

No. We have real, normal cheese, and then we have "American Cheese" too. You know that, don't pretend not to.

It's good for one thing. "Grilled Cheese Sandwich", and even then it is easily beaten by better, actual cheeses.

[Anonymous No.5346298]

>>5343998

> not knowing /ck/ maymays

[Anonymous No.5346302]

under the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 (Food and Drugs), Article 133, Section 169 (Pasteurized process cheese), the allowed usage of the term "American Cheese" for certain types of "Pasteurized process cheese" is detailed. Specifically, in paragraph (e)(2)(ii) of section 133.169, it states In case it is made of cheddar cheese, washed curd cheese, colby cheese, or granular cheese or any mixture of two or more of these, it may be designated "Pasteurized process American cheese"; or when cheddar cheese, washed curd cheese, colby cheese, granular cheese, or any mixture of two or more of these is combined with other varieties of cheese in the cheese ingredient, any of such cheeses or such mixture may be designated as "American cheese."U.S. Food and Drug Administration (April 1, 1999). "Title 21, Article 133"

Yes, it is cheese. It is also other things.

[Anonymous No.5346316]

>>5346302
Oh, and Kraft Singles are NOT American cheese.

It's a "cheese product".
Real American cheese is different.

[Anonymous No.5346332]

>>5345024
more like no less than 41%.
by law.

[Anonymous No.5346337]

>>5346332

woop de doo

[Anonymous No.5346360]

>>5338015
its not cheese it's' "cheese product".
It says so right on the package.

[Anonymous No.5346692]

>>5345439
shitty post

[Anonymous No.5346712]

>>5343084
if you were in California or Portland hipsters would eat your shit right up

[Anonymous No.5346730]

I'll tell you this.
I love my proper cheeses.
But Japan.
Japan has the best processed cheese.


Doesn't even taste like film.
It's floppy not flakey and tastes like cheddar.

Ohhh my days. Some of that cheese on thick white bread in the morning. It's the shit.

[Anonymous No.5347065]

>mfw a dirty savage euro calls this food near me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ_-JzM-YQg

[Anonymous No.5347944]

>>5345710
You should have snoffled her in the whargarbbl.

[Anonymous No.5347945]

>>5345852
We have better than cheese caves, we have bat caves.

Oh, and also climate-controlled aging rooms.

[Anonymous No.5347955]

>>5338015
Confirmed for butthurt Europoor.

[Anonymous No.5347960]

>>5338015

[Anonymous No.5348023]

Haha, americans are so funny, they sure love eating fake food.

[Anonymous No.5348024]

>>5344051
>Cheese does not have a strict definition, you can put shit in cheese and its still cheese

>Due to its highly mechanized (e.g., assembly line) methods of production, and additive ingredients (e.g., oils, salts, colors), some softer varieties of processed cheese cannot legally be labeled as actual "cheese" in many countries -- even those in which slightly harder varieties can be. Such products tend to be classified "cheese food", "cheese spread", or "cheese product" (depending primarily on the amount of cheese, moisture, and milkfat present in the final product).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese

Here's the bottom line: There are many, MANY varieties of processed cheese. Kraft Singles are close to the bottom of the "this shit is pretty nasty" tier. But there do exist good American cheeses, which are much closer to actual cheese than Kraft Singles are, or ever will be. Look for Land o' Lakes, Boar's Head, Prima Della (not as good as the first two).

Kraft Singles are absolutely abhorrent.

[Anonymous No.5348030]

>>5348024

To add, the people who call Kraft Singles "cheese", or make no distinction between different varieties of cheese (here in the Midwest, a lot of people call ALL orange-colored cheese "yellow cheese" . . . white trash) are either ignorant to cheese in general, or were just raised eating shit like Kraft Singles.