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Do you eat healthy most days, /ck/?

>> No.5177895

>>5177894
What's wrong with it.

>> No.5177894

"Healthy" is subjective. That meal you've posted might cause me to die so is not healthy for me.

>> No.5177903

>>5177902
Why?

>> No.5177902

>>5177895
Broccoli. I cannot eat broccoli.

>> No.5177908

>>5177903
Because I'm a little pussy and think broccoli is icky.

>> No.5177910

>>5177903
>>5177908
Allergy, I would guess.

>> No.5177919

>>5177910
Hello /tg/

>> No.5177929

>>5177903
I have an incredibly rare blood condition. It's called Asherson's syndrome and is basically the extreme opposite of haemophilia IE I don't bleed normally because I have a very strong clotting factor. Green vegetables, particularly cruciferous ones like broccoli, promote clotting.
Before I developed AS, cruciferous vegetables were amongst my favourites and now, I have to limit my intake of them drastically or face the possibility of a second amputation.

>> No.5177944

I'm a vegan and I rarely eat processed foods most of the week. It's usually some yummy recipes that substitute meat with plant products. Try it, I had a Chinese stir-fry with tofu, black fungus, okra, and snowpeas in artificial oyster sauce.

>> No.5177947

>>5177944
>artificial oyster sauce
Why not eat mushroom sauce instead? Do you have mushroom sauce where you are? It's used in the same manner and application as oyster sauce but doesn't taste like shit the way artificial oyster sauce does. If you wait a bit, I can take a look at my bottle of mushroom sauce and let you know the brand name. It's extremely tasty.

>> No.5177980

>>5177944
I honestly can not fathom when vegans refuse to eat animals like oysters or refuse to eat honey because of morals or feels or my Animalia kingdom. Those are just biological robots. How much and what a cow or chicken feels or thinks is up to debate but if you're fine with eating plants you can be fine with oysters.

>> No.5177989

>>5177929
LOL

>>5177889
well fuck i consider the best foods:
root vegetables (carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips)
cruciferous (cabbage, kale, arugula, spinach)
all meats
all fish
aaaaaand nuts.
anything else can fuck right off, aside from shit like ginger, garlic, onions, and what, typical herbs and spices: thyme, marjoram, whatever

oh yeah, wildberries

>> No.5177993

it's hard for me, because i have to cook for my housemate. i'm a live-in carer.

the person i'm looking after has some mental health issues and is a very picky eater. i'm still weaning them onto eating vegetables (plural) with every dinner.

i skip meals a lot when i'm alone, though, so having to stick to a routine is good for me.

>> No.5177992

>>5177989
forgot shellfish

and beer

>> No.5177995

>>5177989

>all meats

This must be amended. Also don't forget legumes and whole grains. I trust that you're not paleo.

>> No.5177996

>>5177992
and mushrooms/fungi

maybe algae

>> No.5177997

>>5177996
>>5177992

and fruit

>> No.5178003

>>5177995
all meats i'm standing by assuming that the meat quality is natural. beef is fine if it's roaming in a grass field; shark was fine before the contamination of the oceans, if that's actually a factor to be worried about regarding it's health/mercury content

so by "all meats", i'm referring to their natural manifestations, and not their modern natures

as far as legumes and grains, no, i'm not a fan. grains make me feel like shit, and there's the shit like how before the neolithic revolution, the skeletons who didn't eat strictly grains were taller, with better bone structures/dental presence, and that coupled with shit saying that lectins scar the intestinal membrane and prevent the absorption of nutrients make me not very stoked on cereals in general. rice, whatever, i can find better nutrients in better sources.

i think grains are for cattle and poor people. also beans, what the fuck? that shit's not even food.

>> No.5178021

>>5178003
>>5177996
>>5177992
>>5177989
damn i totally posted in the wrong thread

meant to post that in the superfoods thread

>> No.5178022

>>5178003

Okay, so you are paleo, meaning you base your diet on the concept of "wouldn't it be neat" rather than "science says."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15228991

The problem I have with paleo is that virtually every study we ever do shows that whole grains and legumes are massively beneficial, and also that meat consumption isn't very good for us, but Paleo indoctrinators like Loren Cordain just skip over this detail and try to convince people to eat a shitty diet based on hazy archaeological evidence of a group of our ancestors that may or may not have eaten the way they suggest, and aside from that aren't exactly the pinnacle of human health anyway. If you want a healthy diet, do what every health organization says to do and lower your meat consumption and eat more whole grains and legumes.

>> No.5178041

>>5178022
What if my meat consumption is already far, far lower than western standards? I eat only about 100g of meat in a day, if that. I had none yesterday, for example. Should I lower my consumption of meat, too?

>> No.5178045

>>5178041

Ideally, but you're much better off the way you are than someone who eats meat as a staple of his diet and as a bulk of his calories

>> No.5178047

>>5178022
whenever i eat a slice of bread, whether it's american white (when i lived in the states)
or pumpernickel
or dunkelbrot
or artisan french bread from local places around where i live now (france)
i bloat up terrible and feel like shit. same with beans

so what, should i fixate my diet to the FDA pyramid or eat what makes me feel good, energetic, and lean? we both know the answer to that

>> No.5178048

>>5178003
>the skeletons who didn't eat strictly grains
Maybe you shouldn't base your nutrition on what skeletons eat.
Joking aside of course a strictly grain diet maybe topped off with hunger is going to not leave your bones in the best shape. Maybe you should actually follow modern studies though instead of comparing a dozen skeletons and what educated guesses archaeologist made about the individuals.

>> No.5178051

>>5178047

If you don't like broccoli, does that mean you're excused from eating vegetables?

>> No.5178053

>>5177894
That's an abusive use of the word subjective. Sure, the problem is relatively specific to you, but objectively to others who know of your problem, one would come to the conclusion that it would not be healthy for you to eat broccoli.

It was interesting reading about your blood condition, by the way. Are you saying that you had an amputation done? Might I ask where and if there's a reason why it was at that particular place?

>> No.5178056

>>5178047

Why not live long the most consistently long-lived people in the world, the Okinawans of Japan, and live primarily on sweet potatoes? Sweet potatoes make up about 64% of their calories

>> No.5178060

>>5178048
well understood and fair enough, but again, if a certain class of foods makes me feel like shit, i'm not stoked on including them in my diet

>>5178051
the relation of broccoli to vegetation is a bit more extensive than the relation of wheat to grain. and i said anyway that it's grains that i don't consider to be superfoods, not, say, barley, or rye,

fuckhead

>> No.5178086

>>5178056
sure sweet potatoes are probably mad beneficial and shit, but it must be fuckhard difficult to isolate that component of their diet, along with all the ex-dietary factors in their lives, to conclude that it is the sweet potatoes that are perfect

but hey, maybe they are

myself, i always thought that the japanese in general had longer lifespans because they ate less; less digestive stress on the organs means greater longevity of the pertinent organs

>> No.5178103

>>5178086

>but it must be fuckhard difficult to isolate that component of their diet

Why would you think that?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23745032

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17199331

We can study individual foods and see how they benefit us and why they do on a molecular level

>> No.5178115

I eat mostly real food and lots of fruits and vegetables. Just have a problem with portion size. I cook normal family-sized recipes, and I eat till I'm stuffed.

All my favorite snacks are really calorie-dense too. Fucking peanuts and cheese.

>> No.5178123

>>5178115
looks like i should start eating sweet potatoes, thrn

consider, though, that potatoes are root vegetables, and i included root vegetables in my superfood list

so yeah what's up

>> No.5178148

>>5178053
Thankfully, just a toe.
I developed a shittonne of clots in my right leg that blocked flow to my foot, causing the toe to go gangrenous. Two fasciotomies on each side of my right calf were performed and my leg was flayed and splayed open from ankle to crotch to remove them all. Some stints were put in.
The clots formed over the course of only a few hours and had they been just a bit more lax in getting me into surgery, I'd have lost my leg completely or died. That's how devastating the condition can be. For a 24 year old to suddenly wind up in hospital and nearly die is not a pleasant experience.

>> No.5178174

What's the difference between /fit/ and /ck/?

>> No.5178186

>>5178174
/ck/ general doesn't care how healthy the food is, it needs to taste good.

/fit/ generally doesn't care how good food tastes, it needs to be healthy.

both boards are pretty food related though.

>> No.5178191

>>5178174
There's more anorexics and fatties on here

>> No.5178206

>>5178191
>>5178191
>anorexics

I was pretty startled by that "how many calories do you eat a day" thread not long ago. I always thought we were a fat board but it seems like half the board is borderline anorexic and they come here to dream about and look at delicious food.

>> No.5178208

>>5178086
>>5178103
It's hard to argue that sweet potatoes alone are the reason for the Okinawans' longevity. Social support plays a huge role in their lifespan.

>> No.5178232

>>5178206
Pretty sure it's half liars, half bragging (people who eat normal and don't count won't post).

>> No.5178237

>>5178191
Begs the question what the difference between /fa/ and /ck/ is then.

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5178244

>>5178186

>/fit/ generally doesn't care how good food tastes, it needs to be healthy.

I take it you've never been to /fit/

>> No.5178248

>>5178244
I take it you take offense to the healthy part, not the taste. Those fit cooking guides are rancid.

>> No.5178256

>>5177889

I'm not healthy right now.

>> No.5178262

>>5178248

/fit/'s the board that tells you to drink a gallon of whole milk a day, and to bulk on fried chicken and ice cream. I don't know how /fit/ got a reputation as a health board, especially after moot removed "health" from the board title and just made it "fitness." It's a bodybuilding board, not a health board

>> No.5178442

>>5178262
Mostly they just talk about how much they hate fat women

>> No.5178489

>>5178262
Oh dear god you are so unbelievably fucking stupid.

>> No.5178497

>>5178489
dipshit detected

>> No.5178498

>>5178489
I know, he forgot that /fit/ was composed of virgins with incredibly low confidence.