/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5103493]

wheres a good place to get nitrate/nitrite (whichever it is) free steak?
A farmer's market?

[Anonymous No.5103546]

Lol, they don't pump steaks with nitrates unless you live in a shithole. Just go to a wholesale butcher shop if youre shook about it, half the time a wholesaler has 3-4 pigs and cows strung up in the back.

[Anonymous No.5103553]

are vegan steaks nitrate free?

[Anonymous No.5103583]

>>5103553

[Anonymous No.5103978]

I think you;d have a harder time finding nitrates in a steak than finding one without them.

[Anonymous No.5103996]

raw meat doesn't contain added nitrates op

[Anonymous No.5104208]

s-so only worry about shit like hotdogs and the like?

[Anonymous No.5104216]

>>5104208

If all you're worried about is nitrates, yeah. If you're worried about other health aspects, steak isn't exactly health food

[Anonymous No.5104222]

>>5104216
>implying my heart doesn't demand it

[Anonymous No.5104224]

>>5103553

>vegan
>steaks
>vegan steaks
>steaks that don't contain meat

[Anonymous No.5104324]

>>5104224
Cows eat grass, therefore I'm eating grass. Beef is a vegetable.

[Anonymous No.5104352]

>>5104324

[Anonymous No.5104375]

>>5104324
Game over, Vegans

[Anonymous No.5104388]

>>5104324
cows are SUPPOSED to eat grass but are feed bullshit like candy, day old bread/pastries, and corn/grain. That makes the meat shitty and less healthy.

The meat from GF cows is much better than the cows that eat cherry hand pies and wonderbread from the day old bread store.

Higher in CLA and has more Vitamin K2 and you won't die from it if you eat it twice a week.

[Anonymous No.5104406]

>>5104216
Steak is ok to eat occasionally, you can't really look at a day to day intake and say you're unhealthy because you were outside recommended intake for one day

[Anonymous No.5104512]

>>5104388

>THIS ice cream is healthier than THAT ice cream

[Anonymous No.5104516]

What do you guys think of poutine?

[Anonymous No.5104537]

>>5104216
>>5104406
wtf is wrong with a good cut of steak? Is that whole "red meat is bad" myth still floating around?

[Anonymous No.5104545]

>>5104537
Not the Anon you're responding to, but meat is not "bad". The idea that meat is an everyday food is probably bad, however.

[Anonymous No.5104546]

>>5104512
>THIS ice cream that is made with all-natural ingedients is better than THAT ice cream that is made in a lab, full of preservatives and has hydrogenated oils

You are correct. You can't just look at basic macros and calories to determine healthiness

[Anonymous No.5104550]

>>5104545
>The idea that meat is an everyday food is probably bad, however.

No, the idea that you need 1/2 lb of meat with every meal is bad (I think that's what you're getting at).

Eating meat everyday isn't bad, just stick to proper proportions

[Anonymous No.5104574]

>>5104537

>Is that whole "red meat is bad" myth still floating around?

Yeah, that stupid "medical science" bullshit is still a thing apparently. I say put down the textbooks, Poindexter, and just eat some beef. Fucking faggots trying to find out what's "healthy" these days.

[Anonymous No.5104582]

>>5104550
I was raised that meat is a dinner food, and large quantities were only for special occasions. Such as a turkey for Thanksgiving and goose for Christmas.

I maintain a lower-end healthy bmi without error.

[Anonymous No.5104588]

>>5104546

The point is they're both still bad for you. You can't claim natural = healthy for these kinds of things when we understand on a fundemental level how the things that compose the food negatively effect our bodies. It doesn't matter what the source or the quality is, it doesn't change what the food itself is and what it does to us

[Anonymous No.5104595]

just go to a bucher... nitrates are more of a lunchmeats kinda thing.

Going to a butcher is supporting local business and farmers. It's also indirectly encourages better animal treatment. Because more discerning customers demand better products. It's a win for everyone.

[Anonymous No.5104596]

>>5104546
I hate people who espouse that anything, if made with 'all natural' ingredients is healthy. You people have no fucking concept of chemistry and biology. I'm not trying to say that nothing out of a lab is bad for you, but the same can be fucking said about 'all natural' foods. Seriously, a sugar molecule made in a lab is going to be completely identical in every fucking way to one made by a tree. And so fuckin what if there are some preservatives in food? It doesn't instantly make it unhealthy and poison you fuckwhits.

Yeah, I mad.

[Anonymous No.5104599]

>>5104574
>Yeah, that stupid "medical science" bullshit is still a thing apparently. I say put down the textbooks, Poindexter, and just eat some beef. Fucking faggots trying to find out what's "healthy" these days.

wow look at this tryhard faggot.

Please tell my eating reasonable portions of lean beef is bad for you.

impossible mode: you can't provide a link to natural news

[Anonymous No.5104617]

>>5104599

>"lean" beef

Saturated fat is the least of your worries when it comes to beef. Enjoy that neu5gc, carnitine-to-TMAO conversion, and HCAs

But you know, the most annoying thing about this whole issue isn't people being ignorant of what they're eating, it's people who just plain can't be honest with themselves and have to make excuses and try to tell themselves and others that their favorite food isn't allowed to be bad for them, and they'll look high and low for any shred of evidence among the mountains of contradicting evidence that the food they like benefits them. It's like a drug addict trying to convince people how shooting heroin is actually really good for you because it relieves stress or some shit. Stop holding the rest of the world back and just admit the things you like to eat aren't what we should strive to eat as a society

[Anonymous No.5104618]

>>5104596
From a evolutionary perspective we're putting a lot of new stuff in our food a little too fast. We're eating plants and animals that never grew in our homelands. We adding new things before we've even had enough time to gauge the long term effects of the things we put in years ago. The matter is our genes can't keep up and we're only bound to hurt ourselves at this rate.

[Anonymous No.5104628]

>>5104617

>It's like a drug addict trying to convince people how shooting heroin is actually really good for you because it relieves stress or some shit.

Hey, all-natural heroin shot in moderation isn't bad for you. Fuck off, anti-drug guy.

[Anonymous No.5104642]

>>5104628
opium's pretty legit in small doses on seldom occasions.

[Anonymous No.5104650]

>>5104617

there is no evidence that TMAO contributes to atherosclerosis in humans, only in mice

if that's enough for you to want to omit it from your diet just to be safe then that's fine, but don't claim it as fact when we really don't know what it does in humans

[Anonymous No.5104662]

>>5103553

10/10 best b8 i've seen all day

[Anonymous No.5104677]

>>5104650

Human effects have been tested too

http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v19/n5/full/nm.3145.html

>The presence of specific bacterial taxa in human feces was associated with both plasma TMAO concentration and dietary status. Plasma l-carnitine levels in subjects undergoing cardiac evaluation (n = 2,595) predicted increased risks for both prevalent cardiovascular disease (CVD) and incident major adverse cardiac events (myocardial infarction, stroke or death), but only among subjects with concurrently high TMAO levels.

[Anonymous No.5104689]

>>5104550
>Eating meat everyday isn't bad, just stick to proper proportions
I don't know. You may be right. I do know that very few people have any idea what constitutes a proper portion, and they eat lots of meat for one reason: because they can.

In my own life I made the switch from meat (and dairy) as an everyday food to a once in a while food, and promptly lost 40lbs. Went from fat to trim in one year.

I don't know if that's because meat itself is best consumed less often (for me, at least), or if the meat we have just happens to suck because of how it's raised and what it's fed.

I'm just to the point where I don't trust it as an everyday food, because eating it that way makes me fat.

[Anonymous No.5104696]

>>5104689
>I don't know if that's because meat itself is best consumed less often

It's simply because meat is dense in both nutrients and calories. If you eat based on being full, veggies will fill you up much faster and will give you fewer calories. More calories = weight gain.

[Anonymous No.5105212]

>>5104677
>in subjects undergoing cardiac evaluation
hurrrrr
durrrrr

[Anonymous No.5107435]

>>5104618
Evolution takes a long, long, long time. Something like what we eat cannot possibly influence it in a tiny space of time, and the way we eat stuff has changed drastically in the last few hundred years, and likely will continue to change, which makes your argument really silly.