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[Anonymous No.4429203]

I'm a britfag who always thought negative about American beer. I always compared it to piss water. I just got back from a trip to Southern California and I have to say I'm impressed on how far you've come along.

My mate took me to a few breweries and some were named Stone, Alesmith, Lost Abbey, and Green Flash. America is finally getting a taste for decent beer. I particularly like the IPA style. I can't wait to go back.

[Anonymous No.4429207]

Stone's been around 20 years. The difference is just that Britfags have finally started realizing Americans don't sit around drinking Bud all day.

[Anonymous No.4429233]

>Stone, Alesmith, Lost Abbey, and Green Flash

Those are mid-tier US brews at best, OP.
Try some Great Divide, Victory, Troegs or Dogfish Head.

Pic related: Great Divide Hercules Double IPA

[Anonymous No.4429262]

>>4429203
You did well. Next time you're here be on the lookout for IPAs from Alpine, Russian River and Beachwood.

[Anonymous No.4429269]

>>4429233

Stone is way better than the overrated Dogfish

[Anonymous No.4429317]

American craft beer is widely considered to be the best in the world. Unfortunately AB InBev and MillerCoors still has control of 90-95% of the beer market in the US, which warps the perception of people who don't know a lot about beer aside from piss water.

>>4429233
I'd consider those between upper-mid to upper tier due to the fact that they are all rated within the top 100 breweries in the world.

God tier: Three Floyds, Founders, Bell's, Russian River, Hillstead Farm, Firestone Walker, Cigar City

[Anonymous No.4429334]

>>4429233
http://www.ratebeer.com/RateBeerBest/bestbrewers_012013x.asp

Alesmith is #6, Stone is #8. I wouldn't consider that mid tier at all...

[Anonymous No.4429339]

>>4429269

Nah man, Stone is overrated overpriced crap made by D&D nerds and imbibed by california hipsters.

Nothing they make can touch some of the gems Dogfish puts out like Hellhound, Indian Brown Ale and Burton Baton.

[Anonymous No.4429342]

>>4429203
>America is finally getting a taste for decent beer.

fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.4429343]

I think Northcoast is way underrated

[Anonymous No.4429346]

>>4429339

Oh wow, your argument of 'no' is so persuasive. Obviously taste isn't subjective at all.

Beer is so full of faggotry. One reason I prefer bourbon.

[Anonymous No.4430128]

oskar blues gubna ipa. enough said.
p.s. OP can go fuck himself.

[Anonymous No.4430156]

>>4429346
the irony in your post is almost palpable

every alcohol drinker is such a fucking snob, i'm a beer snob, you're a booze snob, snobs everywhere in this bitch

let's just get drunk

[Anonymous No.4430160]

>>4429317
>Hillstead Farm

It's Hill Farmstead

[Anonymous No.4430170]

>>4429233

I love how no one noticed that all the ones that he named are East Coast breweries and all of the other ones are West Coast.

[Anonymous No.4430176]

>>4429346
>Beer is so full of faggotry. One reason I prefer bourbon.
>choosing your beverages based on what some people who consume the beverages are like rather than taste

why?

[Anonymous No.4430180]

>>4430170
east coast vs west coast is a rivalry as old as time itself, it's not worth feeding any trolls that try to spur it

[Anonymous No.4430184]

>>4430170
Upper Midwest breweries are the best

Founders, Bells, New Glarus, Surly, Three Floyds

California ones tend to be overrated, northwest and Colorado are pretty good and rated correctly for the most part (except Rogue, they are overrated), Northeast ones are a little underrated but still generally don't match the beers of the upper midwest, Colorado and the Northwest

[Anonymous No.4430185]

>>4430180

True. I mean my top 2 breweries are DFH and Stone, but that is because none of the god-tier ones
(>>4429317) mentioned are available here.

[Anonymous No.4430186]

>>4430180
Especially since the best breweries are in the glorious Midwest

[Anonymous No.4430189]

>>4430184
>>4430186
The Midwest makes the best beer, and drinks the most beer. Its a pretty good situation for someone who likes beer to be in

[Anonymous No.4430197]

you really have to go to the coastlines for good beer here in murica. all the inland states (and college kids) pound bud, coors and miller because its cheap as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4430196]

>>4430189
>Wisconsin
Glorious

[Anonymous No.4430208]

>>4430197
Surly, Goose Island, New Glarus, Great Lakes, and Bells invite you to go fuck yourself. Stay on the coasts - more delicious beer for us.

[Anonymous No.4430230]

>>4430197
>you really have to go to the coastlines for good beer here in murica
Thats a really dumb thing to say, the east coast is way behind the midwest.

Now avoid the south at all costs. People really shouldn't lump the midwest and the south together, they are nothing alike

[Anonymous No.4430240]

>>4430230
east coast is getting there, most of our good brews are local and don't usually leave the states they're made in

[Anonymous No.4430269]

>>4430240

Burley Oak in MD.

[Anonymous No.4430273]

>>4430240

Seriously

Look at the waves Alchemist and Hill Farmstead made

[Anonymous No.4430278]

>>4430273
>the alchemist
aww ye

[Anonymous No.4430385]

>>4430230
>thinking of anything other than piss beer and sausage when thinking of midwest

[Anonymous No.4430461]

>>4430240

fuck yea local brews.

Yuengling might not be the greatest, but I love cheap local shit like that.

[Anonymous No.4430492]

>>4429346
> Implying bourbon drinkers aren't snobs

[Anonymous No.4430500]

This is one of my favorite go to beers for getting drunk. It's ~$2:50 a 24 oz bottle, it's 8% and it taste good. Thank you, Jesus.

[Anonymous No.4430534]

>>4430385
>living in a city that is so pleb that their stadiums sell more hot dogs than brats

[Anonymous No.4430968]

>>4429317
>American craft beer is widely considered to be the best in the world
Yeah, no.

[Anonymous No.4430973]

>>4429317

Watch out guys, it's crazy InBev conspiracy guy. Jews did Blue Moon to distract from the Moon Landing which never happened.

[Anonymous No.4430990]

>>4430170

>Denver
>east coast

u wot?

[Anonymous No.4431046]

>>4430968

1.Belgium
2.America

90000000000001.Everything else

[Anonymous No.4431051]

>>4431046
>belgium #1
>band aid smell and rotten bananas

Who taught drosophila melanogaster how to use a computer?

[Anonymous No.4431050]

OP here. No disrespect, but for the longest time I only saw you guys drinking Coors, Bud, or some other piss quality beer and that is what they only import to the UK. I never really got to experience your local crafts until I went to San Diego. My previous trips to America all were in Florida and I didn't find any good beer at all (except for imports). Thanks for the tips guys, maybe next time I'll look into going to the Pacific Northwest and check out what they have to offer.

[Anonymous No.4431068]

>>4431051
Belgium doesn't just make kooky wheat beers, they do lots of other good stuff. America has such a broader selection of almost everything that I would say it takes it, although obviously the USA is much much larger than belgium

[Anonymous No.4431071]

>>4429346
The fact that taste is subjective doesn't mean that you can't establish generally-recognized standards for it.

[teka No.4431121]

>>4430973
To be fair from a retailer side.. AB Inbev and MillerCoors have a serious lock on the markets. The whole producer/distributor/retailer clusterfuck in most states has been finely tuned since the 21st amendment to favor massive brewers over small ones.

[Anonymous No.4431147]

What no love for alesmith? Fucking love alesmith. Their brown ale is just about the best I've ever had. Everything that I want in a brown ale.

[Anonymous No.4431170]

>>4431071
Yes it does.

[Anonymous No.4431183]

>>4429203
>I'm impressed on how far you've come
>I particularly like the IPA

[Anonymous No.4431222]

>>4430208
>Goose Island
Owned by Bud, only reason its available on the east coast.

[Anonymous No.4431224]

[Anonymous No.4431228]

>>4431046
I know Americans are brainwashed from birth with never ending propaganda how America is the greatest at everything, but there is a point that this needs to stop and we have passed it. Germany, Britain, Czech Republic and Ireland make the best beers. America is well known for its inferior food and drink.

[Anonymous No.4431229]

>>4431228
>America is well known for its inferior food and drink.
that's just a lie we spread so we can keep the good stuff for ourselves. I bet you believe we actually eat at KFC too? Poor gullible fools.

[Anonymous No.4431230]

>>4431228

Yes, that famous Irish cuisine sure puts us in our place

[Anonymous No.4431239]

>>4431068
>America has such a broader selection
god you amerikanen are so deluded. Germany and England combined have nearly double number of breweries as entire us.

[Anonymous No.4431246]

>>4431230
I included Ireland in best beer you blind retard.

[Anonymous No.4431252]

>>4431239
American who has only had Guinness and Bass: "We have an incredible variety of beers, this isn't 1975 anymore"

American to a Brit who has only had Coors and Bud Light: "We keep the good stuff to ourselves, you plebs have no idea lol"

[Anonymous No.4431261]

Europe is and will always be the alcoholic utopia of the world in terms of quality, variety and everything else. You can't outbooze the old world, friends.

[Anonymous No.4431263]

>>4431230

Sure thing buddy. Is your country famous for its inferior grammar?

Most of American cuisine is mediocre mass processed food. The stuff that isn't, though, is on par with the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.4431267]

>>4431239
Yeah, no. 1000 in the UK, 1300 in Germany, 2751 in the US.

[Anonymous No.4431269]

>>4431261

Sorry, but bourbon doesn't come from Europe, so your answer is invalid

[Anonymous No.4431282]

>>4431269
Bourbon is nice, I agree. It's sort of the exception to the rule though. Everything else is imitation.

[Anonymous No.4433643]

>>4430184

Three Floyds became a center for cult-beers and has gone down hill since the only Floyd left was the biggest cunt of all. Zombie Dust is really good but Darklord is overrated as far as Imperial Stouts go and doesn't deserve the status it has.

Choosing Breweries based on region instead of their personal merit is completely ridiculous though. Every region has some amazing breweries that shouldn't necessarily be lumped together. Hell, breweries like Ommegang (New York) and Lost Abbey (California) have more in common then other breweries in their own states.

[Anonymous No.4433664]

>>4431228
Before he died Michael Jackson (the beer author), a Brit, even said that America was the best place for beer in the modern world. Next time you want to really ruse me, leave Ireland off and I might take you seriously.

[Anonymous No.4433702]

The God Tier of What a Floridian Can Access of God Tier Beers Tier (Tier.):
Ballast Point
Bell's
Stone
Founders (I can now say this as a Floridian; soon anyway, but their reputation precedes them)
Cigar City Brewing
Great Divide
Green Flash
Dogfish Head (overrated or not, 90 Minute is fucking delicious)

Speaking of DFH, how is Burton Baton? If I want a DIPA four pack I usually go with GD Hercules. DFH specialty brews always seem so (and you'll excuse me here) specialized--some to the point where I didn't even want to finish the beer, which is incredibly weird for me.

Also, Stone Enjoy By was the most delicious thing I have ever put into my mouth. I want more, but I will have to wait. God damn it.

[David Donghanger !!VF552IUEIiK No.4433846]

Yes, I'm a k guy so most of my beer pics contain guns. But I can't pass up a good beer thread.

>>4433664
This man speaks truth.

>>4431071
As long as we all agree Victory Storm King is crap, I'm good with this.

>>4433702
Yess!
>Bell's Black Note:omnomnomnom!
>Got some OBS last time I was in Joe-Ja
>CCB- Have my 4 bottles of Hunahpu still, and 2 Marshal Zhukov.
>Green Flash was so under the radar for me, but goddamn is it good! I like their DS.

I'll add Weyerbacher and 1/2 of what North Coast makes to that list. Maybe even just Ol' Rasputin.

Have you ever tried Duchesse de Bourgogne? Found some up in Tally, wondering if I'll find it again, it was the best Flanders Red I've ever had.

[Anonymous No.4433852]

>>4433702

Burton Baton is very good. I understand where you're coming from on the specialized comment. I'd say as far as that goes, the BB is one of the less 'out there' beers. Which is not to say it's not deep or complex. But it tastes basically like you'd expect a beer to taste. None of that crazy saffron and honey like with midas, no full frontal face punch of hops like the 120, no tsunami of malt like the world wide stout. Unlike some of the crazier ones, there is no adjustment period of a few sips. Your palate is ready for it the second it hits your mouth.

[Anonymous No.4433859]

>>4433846
>nugget
>neverwinter nights
>rasputin

You just went full neckbeard

[Anonymous No.4433893]

jesus christ, europeans are either completely delusional or extremely ignorant when it comes to quality beer

[David Donghanger !!VF552IUEIiK No.4433902]

>>4433859
Yep, NWN is like closet-dungeons and dragons, lol. You ever have barrel-age Rasputin? Finally going to drink pictured in 2 days, not sure what to expect.

>>4433852
Have you had DFH Indian Brown Ale? Sometimes it gets a little too sweet, but generally I really appreciate this brew. I might brew a clone once I get more of my red ale out of the way, but I don't know where to tweak it.

>>4433893
Just general assumed euro superiority, welcome to 4chan. asshats

[Anonymous No.4433921]

>>4429203
trik to american beer is not getting the major brands many of our microbrews(thank the gods for them) are quite good, pic related + old cigs from your land

[Anonymous No.4433924]

>>4433902

No, never even knew that kind of rasputin existed until you posted it. Just the regular stuff. I had some of that DFH a couple of months ago, it's probably my least favorite DFH. It's a good beer but I kind of feel like nearly every beer they make is a near masterpiece, and I was expecting to be impressed more by the India Brown Ale.

[Fa-Ping !kV5uTs0BiQ No.4433935]

His and hers...

[Anonymous No.4433945]

>>4433921
I LOVE hopdevil. Fuck, I may be going to get some soon.

[Anonymous No.4433964]

>>4433945
yeah its good stuff.... that face when you cant afford any till tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4433976]

>>4433964
that face when I have the money I just don't feel like cleaning up and getting dressed to go in public to get any

[Anonymous No.4435137]

>>4429317
Firestone Walker is certainly a god-tier brewery. I've had the DBA and the Double IPA and they were both motherfucking incredible.

They only opened distribution to Texas a few months ago, and even then only to the DFW area, so getting to try their stuff was magical

[Anonymous No.4435148]

>>4433846
I hear Rasputin Barrel Aged is a chocolate malt explosion. If only I loved stouts enough to warrant dropping twenty bucks on one, but alas, I still have 4 Nitros in my fridge from 3-4 months ago

[Anonymous No.4435353]

>>4433643
I think most of the bias and conflict is the availability in each region. I really don't know lick spit about the smaller breweries in the mid-west and east coast, other than the ones large enough to ship nationwide.

[Anonymous No.4435354]

>>4435137
Their special releases are damn good too. Parabola if you love a heavy barrel aged porter/stout.
Their Sucaba is fine too, but I'm not that big a fan of Barleywine.

[Anonymous No.4435359]

>>4431228
Hey now, any true beersnob knows Europe makes serious beer. But to complain about Americans saying they're the best then claim the same about Europe? That's like double retarded argument.