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4428562 No.4428562 [Reply] [Original]

My uncle runs a really nice Chinese buffet. They actually make decent food. In the last month, a lot of overweight people have found out about it and are causing the place to run at a loss on some nights.

He doesn't want to raise the prices or lower the quality. Are there any other ways that won't ruin the experience for his regulars?

>> No.4428564

Lower prices/specials become overly crowded, more people, less space for fatties.

Simple as that

>> No.4428569

>>4428562
put more tables in or smaller chairs. the more uncomfortable it is for fat people the less of them will come

>> No.4428575

Increase the price.
Change from all you can eat to pay by the pound.
Put up a sign that says no fatties allowed.

There you go. 3 perfect solutions.

>> No.4428578

>>4428575
Also, provide smaller plates.

>> No.4428580

Install a very large, very visible scale. Anyone entering the restaurant must publicly weigh themselves in front of an employee who will record the reading. Upon leaving, they must weigh themselves again, and pay based on the amount of food they shoved into their fat faces. There will be an additional scale outside the bathrooms to prevent cheating.

>> No.4428581

advertise more to normal customers

>> No.4428585

>>4428575
the pay by the pound suggestion actually sounds pretty good

>> No.4428587

>>4428580
This is truly fantastic

>> No.4428588

>go to some cheap buffet
>there's allways atleast 1table full of fatties who eat shitloads of food and it's allways only meat
I dont go to buffets often anymore because most of them have raised their prices probably because of this shit so it's cheaper to order something from the menu.

>> No.4428595

Put up a sign at the front saying something to the effect of "Dear customers: Please limit yourselves to reasonable portions. We take pride in the quality of our food, but we cannot afford to operate at a loss. If you want us to be around to continue to serve you, please do not abuse the buffet."

if that doesn't work cheap out on everything

also this >smaller chairs

>> No.4428597

Thanks guys, the whole scales thing would probably trigger a backlash but I'll suggest them.

Paying by the pound would seem to cheapen the whole experience but, on the other hand, it is a buffet.

>> No.4428598

>>4428564
>Lower price
>Even more fatties come

Did you think this through?

>> No.4428601

>>4428597
A backlash would be good because then the fatties would boycott the restaurant. Problem solved.

>> No.4428606

Smaller plates can act as some sort of portion control as the plate size acts as a serving, the more plates that pile up the more that person will think of their image (Am I this fat that I eat 6 plates?) and thus they might eat less

Not sure if this work on a fat person though as if they are fat they probably don't care if they are fatasses

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4428610

>>4428569
I'm not sure this will work : \ it will just make them complain and be squished against your desired customers.
Hire an older Asian lady to squak at them in broken english. "YOU EAT TOO MUCH! YOU GO! YOU GO NOW! THIS NOT ALL DAY BUFFET! YOU GO NOW!"

>> No.4428611

I call bullshit. Chinese food is too cheap to lose money.
Also
>open buffet
>be surprised fatties show up
lol

>> No.4428612

Add one cheap item fattys love. Like fried dough or something.

Serve it in larger portion so fatties take/eat more of it. Maybe make it a challenge "eat 2.2lbs of fried doigh and get name on wall"

>> No.4428618

>>4428578
Better yet: Charge for normal and big plates

>> No.4428621

>>4428612
>>4428618
Fucking genius.

>> No.4428624

>>4428612

I was just about to say this. The trick is putting out food that are high in cheap fats and sugars and making them in large servings. fatasses will think theyre getting gaming the system by eating large amounts of these but little do they know, theyre eating something that only costs you guys pennies to make

>> No.4428626
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4428626

>go to a buffet
>start piling up, as long as it takes a plate it´s legit
>Cashier´s face whe I arrived with my Jenga Tower of fried chicken

>> No.4428628

>>4428624

of course, you only want to make 1 or 2 dishes at a time. if you make too many, others will take note of it and rate your buffet more poorly

>> No.4428630

>>4428624
spring rolls, then?

>> No.4428631

>>4428569
Being a fatass myself i can confirm this logic to be true.

>> No.4428635

>>4428630

yes! springrolls/eggrolls are the best to make. the wrapping might be a bit of a cost depending on the quality you want but you can make the filling with the cheapest cabbage, carrots and meat possible and theyll never know the difference since its completely deep fried in oil

>> No.4428638

I've never been to a Chinese buffet that wasn't full of fatties and white trash. You need to either increase your customer volume or increase your prices if you do not want to lower quality.

>> No.4428647

Put up a sign that says fat people cannot enter.

>> No.4428651

Make the front door thinner.

>> No.4428654

MSG

>> No.4428657

BUT THE SIGN SAYS ALL YOU CAN EAT!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/23445

>> No.4428659

>>4428651
Simple, yet effective.

>> No.4428661

>>4428657
He has a point. Still, MSG.

>> No.4428665

Do the least problematic things first:
Offer a cheap fatty dish like springrolls or fried rice with peanut sauce.
If that doesn't work, maybe try smaller plates or a the "please be respectful" sign thing.
If that doesn't work, increase prices or charge by weight. Public/school cafeterias often charge by weight if you need a payment system to set this up, maybe look into that.

Reasonable priced or cheap all-you-can-eat buffets are usually destined to be overrun by overeaters. In the end, you might have no choice but to charge by weight or a la carte.

But trying the filler dish first is probably the least problematic and easiest attempt to try

>> No.4428698

>>4428651
genius

>> No.4428718

Here's my Idea, OP, it expands on the charge by weight of the plate. You and your uncle should determine what the average customer eats at the buffet in terms of portion sizes. So lets say it's 1-1.5 IB's of food. You and your uncle now charge really low/the normal amount of money as long as people don't go over 1.5IB's on their plate. Now, if someone goes over 1.5IB jack the price up immensely. This will just keep fatasses and overeaters in general out of your restaurant.

>> No.4428723

>>4428595

That would work with people, but fatasses have no shame. It's how they become fatasses.

>> No.4428726

smaller plates and increase the range from the tables to the buffet. Also use couches instead of chairs so fat people won't get up once they sat down. Offer table servings on left-over lard for them.

>> No.4428728

>>4428562
make it all you can eat dimsum or something, add chinese foods to the menu that will cause stupid white trash fat people to not want to eat there, and will bring in the chinese and diverse eaters crowd.

>> No.4428732

impose a time limit

all you can eat in 30 minutes

>> No.4428736

>>4428732
that will make more fat people come, as they eat with no shame, while thin people will be too stressed out.

>> No.4428738

>>4428732
very bad idea, don't make them show how good speedeaters they are

>> No.4428744

Place the following sign at the host's/hostess' station:

>"In order to keep prices low and quality high, take what you'll eat and eat what you take."
>"Guests found abusing the buffet by being wasteful or over-indulgent will pay extra."
>"Thank you."

As well as:

>"Management reserves the right to refuse service to anyone."
>"Thank you."

Have a copy of the following at each table or at the buffet:

>"Please be respectful and understanding that a business remains in business so long as it is profitable. Help us remain profitable by not over-indulging and not being wasteful and we will be here to serve you with good food at low cost for years to come."
>"Thank you."

Keep out known overeaters.
Charge customers extra at management's discretion. A good idea might be to tally how many plates are being used per table and how many people are seated there. Anything more than a certain number of plates per person might be up to scrutiny, but simply eating that number of plates does not itself automatically incur extra charge; remember that it is up to management's discretion whether or not to charge extra. That should do it.

>> No.4428746

>>4428728

No. This is bad business practice. So is the weighing thing. White trash, fatties, normys, they're all the same. Each customer means money. You want to optimize their eating experience, while at the same time, minimizing their food intake. As it was said before, OP, serve 1-2 dishes that are high in fat and sugars like fried doughnuts and eggrolls and make them big.

Here's another protip: make soda free. Sure, they'll drink a liter of soda but it costs less than a nickel for each cup and volume is volume. It fills their pig disgusting stomachs faster and saves you money on the main entrees

>> No.4428762

replace plates and silverware with very thin and fine equivalents, so people with fatty sausage-y fingers cannot hold/use them. Put a sign up that prohibits eating with bare hands and the fee charged for breaking restaurant property.

>> No.4428756

I have a buffet by me that charges patrons extra if they leave food on their plate.

This could probably work for your uncle.

>> No.4428760

Smaller chairs and smaller plates.

>> No.4428763

>>4428665
>problematic
your tumblr is showing

>> No.4428768

Modify the chairs so that people can sit in them fine, but if a fatty sits in it, the extra weight will be enough to break it. Once its broken, charge them for breaking restaurant property and permanently ban them from the establishment

>> No.4428772

>>4428569
This is a good idea. My mother is obese, and when I was living with her and we went out to buffets, she would always choose a table.

>> No.4428774

>>4428746
Recent studies suggest that people who consume soda with a meal will eat more than when they are served water.

>> No.4428792

>>4428774
Maybe the studies suggest that people who consume soda with meals are overeaters to begin with. I always find fault with these "studies suggest" statements.
Like "studies suggest teens on antidepressants are more likely to commit suicide." Doesn't this imply that if they're on antidepressants in the first place that they're depressed to begin with and aren't depressed teens more likely to commit suicide, anyway?
Bah.

>> No.4428793

>>4428774
sauce please
also I'm thinking that maybe you interpreted it differently. I'm thinking that it means that people who usually choose to drink soda would tend to eat more but not that drinking soda would let you physically eat more

>> No.4428794

>>4428774

Try to cite that claim. You can't. Don't even try because you're talking out of your ass

>> No.4428797

>>4428792
>>4428793

LOL! Love the hivemind

>> No.4428799

>>4428797
yeah it's nice because it shows that some people here know how to think critically.
brofist

>> No.4428801

>>4428792
In one they took 60 kids and randomly selected 20 to eat pizza with water 20 with soda, and the remaining 20 were given a soda first then got pizza with water.

The pre meal soda drinkers ate the most, followed by soda meal and water meal ate the least. The experiment was repeated several times. While it is possible that random chance landed heavy eaters all in the same group, it is unlikely to have happened 3 times.

The reason i used the word suggedts is because as an observationsl study we only know the results not a definitive cause.

>> No.4428812

>>4428726
>lso use couches instead of chairs so fat people won't get up once they sat down.
I once went to a buffet with really low chairs and really high tables, I wonder if this is why or if they just ordered the wrong ones/had a really tall guy picking them.

>> No.4428815

>>4428801
In another study, the great and shadowy They took 60 statements made on 4chan about studies and split them into three groups of 20 each.

One group of statements cited sources.
The second group provided interesting, but ultimately anecdotal evidence.
The last group made a statement about studies but neither did it cite sources nor provide any evidence of its own.

The statements that cited sources were most likely to be correct, the ones that provided some evidence were somewhat likely to be correct and the ones that provided no evidence nor cited sources were the least likely to be correct.

>> No.4428816

>>4428746
>>more veriety of food serving a different demographic that doesn't over indulge as much is bad buisness.
get fucked.

>> No.4428819

>>4428562
find out what the regulars eat. if its like 2 plates, make it the limit. fat people would be forced to eat less

or somehow ban fat people

>> No.4428821

>>4428792
>>4428793
this is an easy way to blurr lines for a journalist, but in the actual studies, the findings and the conclusions are not so ambigious unless the study itself is bullshit, agree with the sauce remark.

>> No.4428822

>>4428801

Okay, to cite something, means to provide a way for us to actually check your claim. Otherwise you're still making false claims. Did you read that from an article? then post the link? Did you read it from a magazine or textbook? Provide the name and issue number

>> No.4428825

>>4428763
>uses the word problematic
>must be from tumblr
If they were from tumblr they would be giving this guy shit for discriminating fat people.

>> No.4428826

>>4428768

Holy fuck I pictured this in my head and had a good giggle

>> No.4428834

>>4428819

Request a document stating the customer's BMI, if it is over 30, permanently ban them from the restaurant and have their vehicle towed so they will be encouraged to walk home.

>> No.4428838

>>4428746

Actually most restaurants make their biggest profit on soda and especially booze. Bad business plan to give away your largest profit item.

>> No.4428845

>>4428834
You do realize that at a certain high enough level obesity actually counts as a disability and discrimination can be sued for.

>> No.4428847

>>4428822
On phone. Give me 30min to get at comp

>> No.4428849

>>4428562
why would a non-fatass go to an all you can eat buffet at all?

>> No.4428851

>>4428580
I wish someone, somewhere, had the balls to do this.

>> No.4428855

>>4428845

Fatass detected

>> No.4428853

Water is gratis, but charge a dollar, pound, euro or what-have-you per cup of soft drink. If pitchers of soft drinks are offered, charge five of whatever the local currency is. The average drink serving worldwide is 350ml. A pitcher holds 2000ml. That's almost 6 servings, but pitchers are rarely filled to their brims.

>> No.4428861

>>4428838

You're right. BUT, this only applies to bars and clubs where the drinks are the main source of income. In a buffet, your entrees are what bring people in and it costs more to cook these dishes then it does to mix a bag of syrup with carbonated water. Take a moment to absorb that one in for a bit.

>> No.4428862

>>4428849
Variety

>> No.4428864

>>4428861
If I'd wanted to be talked down to, I'd have made a shitty point.

>> No.4428865

>>4428862
Why not just go to a nice restaurant with a tasting menu?

>> No.4428872

My god... OP, if you're still here, I really hope you don't listen to any of the posts that tell you to demean the fatties. The more you discriminate, the more bad publicity and reputation your restaurant will get which means less money for you

>> No.4428873

>>4428865
>why? why? why?
Buffets are nice because you don't have a waitress breathing down your neck and poking her tits out for tips. You know a good buffet when it isn't full of fatties, although in OP's situation I think he is charging too little for quality food.

>> No.4428876

>>4428864

You just did, faggot. Buffets have a different business strategy than bars and clubs. What you said is fucking stupid.

>> No.4428881

>>4428861

Please don't talk about things you obviously don't know about. Even in places where food is the focus (i.e. most restaurants) drinks are the highest profit item. And in restaurants, which have often the lowest profit margins of any restaurant, they're very often the difference between overall profit and loss.

Typical cost on food items ~ 20% (likely higher for buffets, but not much)
Typical cost on soda ~ 5%.

Your brilliant idea is to stop charging for an item which has a 95% return, in order to slightly hopefully reduce food cost.

>> No.4428906

>>4428881

Think a little more critically why someone would go to a buffet to begin with. They want mass amounts of food for as little price possible. If you charge for something that costs pennies, people are less likely to order more soda. If you give it to them for free, they'll drink more which prevents them from putting more real food in their bellies. Running a successful business means smart, long term planning. Sure you'll lose a couple hundred bucks on syrup and carbonated water but you'll make it make 10 fold by saving on purchasing more meats, vegetables

>> No.4428916

>>4428906

Again, you're an idiot. You're not just loosing a couple hundred on supplies - you're also losing the $2 every person paid for soda previously. Get it?

>> No.4428932

>>4428635
>cheapest cabbage, carrots
As opposed to expensive, super high end cabbage and carrots?

>> No.4428936

>>4428916

What the fuck did I just say about making money back by not having to buy more meats and vegetables? Okay, you've never ran a business so I should be educating you, not berating you. Giving something away is a lost in profit yes, but by doing so, customers are happy because you're not charging them additionally. This makes them happier and turn into repeat customers. Money in the bank. Also, by giving them free soda, you're your increasing the chances that'll they'll fill up on the cheap sides and not the expensive entrees. Even more money in the bank. Do you understand now?

>> No.4428940
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4428940

>mfw i go to the local Chinese buffet and the skinny fucks are the ones eating shit tons of food

>> No.4428941

Wait until the fatties congregate.
Drag a hissing cat through the restaurant into the kitchen.
Have the Chinese cook say in loud broken English: TOO BAD FRUFFY, PEEPUR GOTTA EAT!

>> No.4428946
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>>4428936

Shithead, I ran a restaurant for 5 years, which is why I know typical food costs.

You're not going to save 1.95 in food costs, and you've lost 1.95 per person by giving soda away. Happy repeat customers if you're running at a loss means more loss, not more money in the bank. Time to take some basic math sunny jim.

>> No.4428948

>>4428936
typos, i know, but whatever. i hope you get the point.

>>4428932
Yes. What we did was advertised that we also bought our meats and vegetables from the local farmers markets, which were expensive but it showed we were part of the community and you actually can taste the difference. These were our quality over quantity dishes. Then, we used mass produced "cheap" meats and vegetables to cook our lower end foods that were meant to fill you up quicker. These were our quantity over quality dishes.

>> No.4428949

Whats worse
>fatties in buffet
or
>Asians in buffet eating all the crab legs

>> No.4428953

>>4428949

Fatties. Only fresh off the boat do that, but their kids will stop. But fatties will breed more fatties.

>> No.4428954

>>4428932
Organic, pesticide free, fair trade, non-hormone and anti-biotic injected, grass fed, non-conflict, daily fellated vegetables are expensive as fuck.

>> No.4428955

>>4428597
A public banning of fatties would probably produce a lot of good publicity actually. If you could handle the lawsuit I'd say go for it

>> No.4428957

>>4428946

Then you should know that the cost of beef, chicken, seafood, and seafood is pound for pound more expensive than soda. ive done my math, so its you that needs to lrn2fuckingmath

>> No.4428964

>>4428954
>pesticide free

there is no such thing, you fucking idiot

>> No.4428968

>>4428957

And your reduction in food served amount is? Tinkerbell? 2%? Exactly what you're advising is 'hey, give up 95% to hope and capture more of 80%'.

How many businesses do you run by the way, my mighty internet restaurant consultant?

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4428969

>>4428946
>sunny jim

Where do you live that, that's a saying? I've never heard that expression before. Also you're right he is a shithead. You are in business to make money not lose it.

>> No.4428970

>>4428964

Different person, most organic food means pesticide free.

>> No.4428971

>>4428964
>taking a post that refers to daily fellated vegetables seriously.

>> No.4428972

>>4428969

I'm in NYC, but picked it up living in Texas for a bit.

>> No.4428974
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4428974

>all this edgy fat hate

>> No.4428977

>>4428974
fatty mcFat fat detected

>> No.4428978

>>4428970
No, it doesn't you stupid idiot.

>> No.4428981

>>4428974

It's a good example of why to hate fatties - their inability to control their own behavior leads to a restaurant with good quality having to contemplate making the quality WORSE for EVERYONE, because the lardos can't behave like people.

>> No.4428984

>>4428980
At least when I do blood will come out instead of Crisco.

>> No.4428980

>>4428977
watch out, mr edgy, you might cut yourself on one of your edgiest edges

>> No.4428987

>>4428981

Fucking this.

>> No.4428988

>>4428981

So edgy.

>> No.4428991

>>4428984
My fucking sides.

>> No.4428992

>>4428984
what the hell is crisco, murriclap?

>> No.4428995

Don't let fat people eat there, it'll encourage a thinner clientele.

Narrow the door.

>> No.4428996

>>4428984
>>4428991

samefagging hard

>> No.4428998

>>4428988
>calls out group of people for behaving like fuckwads
>the person asking them to stop being disgusting is the edgy one
fatty pls

>> No.4428999

OP
im 100% serious here

start selling scratch/lotto tickets at the restaurant
fat people have no control
many of them are very eager gamblers

>> No.4429000

>>4428995

And longer walk to the buffet from tables.

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4429003

>>4428992

>> No.4429005

>>4428998

Charge according to person's weight too.

>> No.4429007

>>4428974
What'd you expect on a site filled with edgy teens and equally edgy 90s babbies?

>> No.4429008

>>4428940
Yeah, no.

>> No.4429009

>>4428562
Make your food more like, the little portions, the little towers of food...you know, the fancy food. Like it would still be a buffet, but you get served the food..so like, the awkwardness would stop them going for 5ths/6ths/7th plates.

OR

Charge the price of the buffet based on weight! So they get weighed when they get in!

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4429010

>>4428996
try again faggot

>> No.4429012

>>4428968

Where the fuck are you getting those numbers? 95% on 80% what? On how much i make? If I'm losing so much money, why is my net profit always in the green? Look, white trash larry, you do whatever the fuck you want with your business and i'll do what i want with mine. my strategy works so im sharing with /ck/. so unless you want to contribute something, i suggest you shut up

>> No.4429014

>>4428964
You must have no idea how many people keep gardens.

>> No.4429015

>>4429007
Fat-acceptance loser detected

>> No.4429017
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4429017

>>4428940
>mfw I am fat because of muh meds and the fact that I am a lazy neet, not because I eat more
>mfw I look at skinny people eating their 5th stacked plate of cheap buffet shit like they've been starving for a year while I am full after 3 plates and the first one was nothing but salad

>> No.4429019

>>4429010
so you can use ms paint

bravo retard

>> No.4429024

>>4428974
Since when is it edgy to hate fat people?

>> No.4429025

>>4429015
Edgy little shitcunt detected.

>> No.4429026

>>4429017
>not because I eat more

you clearly have no understanding of food, digestion, or even basic physics.

>> No.4429028

>>4429019
>he provides proof
>you talk about painting

>> No.4429031

>>4429028
>B-but...there couldn't POSSIBLY be more than one person who disagree with me! It HAS to be a samefag!

>> No.4429032

>>4429012

Edgy 16 year old running a candy donation business.

Standard food cost is 25 to 38. Well run restaurants push that down to 20. Softdrinks typically cost 10 cents max, and are charged around $2.

Let's walk you through the math, since you don't seem to know what a profit is. You've given up 1.95 in profits by no longer charging for soda (we'll assume the cost increase is null).

Assume the buffet is $10 per person. At a food cost of 25% that's costing you $2.50 per person in food. In order to make up the soda lost profit, you'd need to reduce food cost to $0.65, or a food cost of 6.5%. Which is an insanely low amount for any restaurant.

Which is why I asked, since you insist on being an idiot, what percentage of food cost reduction are you expecting?

>> No.4429036

>>4429028
>>4429031

edgy as shit samefagger

>> No.4429039

>>4429036

Looks like fatty is pouting - just like in life, once it takes any effort above the minimal amount he can't be bothered.

>> No.4429040

Funny, we're actually learning in my culinary class about food business management. Here are some tips that I dug out of my notes
* Use all edible trim-bones and vegetables trims for stocks and sauces.
*Don't add a food unless you can use trimmings
*Plan production to avoid leftovers
*Plan ahead for use of leftovers
*Avoid use of minimum use of perishable items
*Make sure ingredients are used in at least two menu items.

There's also notes on edible potions vs. as purchased, basically spells out how much food certain ingredients actually give after trimming, how to figure out a food's yield, and how to buy and sell it accordingly.

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4429041

>>4429036
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how ass-ravaged and flat out wrong you are.

>> No.4429042

>>4429036

>lol, he thinks calling someone "edgy" means the other person is somehow wrong.

It doesn't work that way bro. If you want to argue you'll need to do better than calling someone edgy.

>> No.4429044

>>4429039
>>4429041

>lulz he mad

typical 90s babby shitposting

>> No.4429046

>>4428562
wait...is that Philadelphia "phil" collins?

>> No.4429048

>>4429042
Well would you like to be called juvenile and retarded instead, Edge?

>> No.4429051

>>4429048

>>say fatties should exercise self control like real adults
>>"derp how juvenile!"

>> No.4429054

>>4429051
>implying that it isn't society's fault that I'm fat
>implying that I should have to face consequences for my decisions
Check your privilege thin scum.

>> No.4429055

>>4429051
Ignorant as fuck. And apparently proud of it. That's juvenile, kid.

>> No.4429056

>>4429055
>saying people should exercise self control is ignorant and juvenile

>> No.4429057

>>4429055

Hey, come on now, let's keep this thread as clean as we'd like our kitchens to be.

;)

>> No.4429058

>>4429055

Ignorant of what? The fact that your fat fat hand is controlled only by you? The fact that the laws of thermodynamics apply to people, and if you fail to control your appetite you gain weight?

>> No.4429059

>>4429054
>muh precious fat hate, gotta have something to hate, fuck the reasons why people get fat I'll just assume it's always just lack of self control xD

Juvenile as fuck.

>> No.4429061

>>4429054

Sorry, I've seen the error of my ways - it's my fault you have no problem inconvieniencing others to get a brief joy from overeating.

>> No.4429062

>you don't share my opinion
>YOU'RE EDGY LOL IGNORANT B/C NOT AGGREEIN WITH ME B/C IM AN INTELLECTUAL U KNO
/ck/ at it's finest

>> No.4429063

>>4429056
Willful ignorance is a shameful thing.

>> No.4429064

>>4429059
now, now, lets move on. and stop using the words 'juvenile' and 'edgy'.

>> No.4429065

>>4429059

Those reasons are simply you eat more than you burn. That's it. There is physically no other way to get fat.

>> No.4429067

>>4429061
I'm glad you've come around. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go take up three plane seats before the other two people can get on board.

>> No.4429068

>>4429064
Shameful display.

>> No.4429070

>>4429063
If you're going to continue harping on about other's ignorance, why not educate them? "You're wrong; you're ignorant" is not helping them learn the error of their ways and achieves nothing.

>> No.4429073

>>4429067
>lel fat pplz

it's like we're on r3bbit

>> No.4429075

>>4429032

I expect to keep my costs at a manageable level by hoping they get full on cheap liquids instead of expensive solids which is clearly working because I make a good profit. I'm done with this internet argument. ive put my theory into practice and its made me money so i know it works.

>> No.4429076

>>4429073
>no fun allowed, ever

>> No.4429078

>>4429070
>implying it's worth the time and effort to gather actual links and quotes (fucking google it if you actually give a fuck instead of latching on to precious fat hate) when the edgy mentality is just "lol fatties just eat too much lol" and any other proof is willfully ignored

>> No.4429080

>>4429046
im pretty sure it is

>> No.4429081

>>4429076
>fun at the expense of other people/group of people

edgy juvenile behavior

>> No.4429083

>>4428580

I don't know where OP's from, but in America a lot of obese people actually tend to take pride in how big they are. This seems like a good idea, but it would probably just scare off normal customers and attract gargantuan people who like to show off and compete for how fucking fat they are

>> No.4429084

>>4429081
>4chan

>> No.4429086

>>4429083
USA USA USA USA

>> No.4429087

>>4429078
>someone requests an actual argument with sources
>NO ITS NOT WORTH MY TIME YOU GUYS SUCK YOU'RE ALL EDGY FUCK YOU

And here I was hoping to have a reasonable, mature debate.

>> No.4429088

>>4429075

Funny then how you can't do any of the math. How many restaurants do you own, Donald Chump?

>> No.4429089

>>4429087
sure you were

>muh fat hate

also

>mature debates on 4chan

:DDDDD

>> No.4429090
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4429090

American tabres and prates atoo big. Our prates are much smarrer

>so smarr

>> No.4429092

>>4429078

>>implying there's any other way to get fat besides eating more than you burn

You're right, insisting on the laws of thermodynamics is just people trying to be edgy.

>> No.4429093

>>4429081
>implying some of the funniest comedy isn't "at the expense of other people"
You can choose to laugh at yourself and have fun, like a reasonable adult, or you can choose to whine and cry about how it hurt your feelings and have no fun. I'm [insert quality/sex/race/nationality], but jokes about it don't offend me.

>> No.4429094

>>4429089
I wasn't the person you were bitching at before, just a bystander. You aren't helping your argument of everyone else being juvenile.

>> No.4429095

>>4429081
>>>/tumblr/

>> No.4429096

There used to be a restaurant that did a pay by the pound, but they did it as a "special" or like a promotion for kids. You could just do that for everyone, but make it sounds like a promotion or a deal and people will eat it up.

Smaller plates is also a good idea.

In addition, I recommend increasing prices, but then offer a 10-20% discount on any table of people who aren't obese. Makes those customers feel special enough to come back and the increase in price for the fatties will make you not go broke.

>> No.4429098

>>4429093
>implying it's not tiresome after 8+ years because that's all 4chins does

and no, there are no better alternatives than wasting hours of one's life here

>> No.4429100

>>4429081
>your rights end where my feelings begin

>> No.4429101

>>4429098
>wahhh I hate this place but refuse to leave stop doing what I don't like ;_;

>> No.4429104

>>4429101
>le edgy troll face
>ebin

>> No.4429103

>>4429101
You're one of the reasons this place never gets any better. Just worse.

>> No.4429109

>>4429103
I'm pretty sure it's you oversensitive tumblr kiddos that are "making it worse". 4chan has always been this way, sorry to break it to you.

>> No.4429110

>>4429103

Fatty too lazy to make an actual argument, but wants the benefits of doing such. Just like fatties want to not have the responsibility of self-control, but desire to not be judged wanting for such.

>> No.4429111

USA USA USA
USA
USA

>> No.4429115

>>4429109
Why are you dragging tumblr into this? Are you from there? Wouldn't surprise me. You're a bit of a cheeky cunt.

>> No.4429118

>>4429109
>I've been here a whole month! Stop ruining muh site, tumblr kids!

>> No.4429119

>>4429115
Nope, but it's obvious to everyone else that you are with your
>muh feelings
>muh rights
>muh refusal to make an actual argument

sage for shitting up the thread,

>> No.4429123

>>4428585
I wouldn't go there. The reason people go to buffets is because that doesn't happen

>> No.4429124

>>4429119
And you contributed so much, little tumblr.

>> No.4429126

>>4429065
Look at little anon here, he's got everything figured out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycystic_ovary_syndrome#Diet

Metabolic syndrome:[9] This appears as a tendency towards central obesity and other symptoms associated with insulin resistance.[7]

>> No.4429135 [DELETED] 

test

>> No.4429131

>>4429118
The "making it worse" is in quotations because I don't believe it's being made any worse. It's always been "this bad". It's the kiddos from tumblr who come here and whine about it "getting so much worse".

>>4429124
>HAHA! I'M GETTING THE LAST WORD!
cute

>> No.4429133

>>4429126
Don't try to reason with these "muh fat hate" faggots. The wiring in their brains is not yet complete. Maybe they'll mature one day. Or not.

>> No.4429134

i don't know if encouraging kids would ruin the experience for others, but i know they don't eat much

>> No.4429138

>>4429131
I'm not done yet.

>> No.4429139 [DELETED] 

teste

>> No.4429141

>>4429135
jesus christ.. this is how tripfaggotry begins, with failure and stupidity

>> No.4429144

>>4429126
So when people with this disorder get fat, where does the mass come from? Does it appear out of nowhere, or from food they shove down their gullets?

When they perform physical activity (whatever microscopic motion that passes for it that they get), where does the energy come from? Does it come from nowhere, or does it come from food?

It is literally physically impossible to get fat without eating more than you burn. It doesn't matter what glandular problems you have, if you eat less than or equal to what you burn, it is impossible to gain mass.

>> No.4429146

>>4429133
I hate to use buzzwords like "edgy", but that's pretty much the only word these people are worth. They think they have the world figured out, like every porker above 250lbs is just chowing down on chips and Big Macs and drinking whole 2 liters daily. The human body is a bit more complex than that, but I guess it's difficult to understand that prior to reaching full intellectual maturity.

>> No.4429143

>>4428744

This is a good idea; if you have a visible disclaimer sign you can get away with telling people to fuck off.

Also like one of the above posters said, hire an aggressive dragon lady to more or less harangue the people you don't like. A lot of all-you-can-eat restaurants I've been to have one, plus even a few McDonalds to shut people up and keep the lines moving quicker

>> No.4429153

>>4429144
>So when people with this disorder get fat
I lol'd, they can eat almost any carb and by the onset of this disorder they already are fat.

>Does it appear out of nowhere, or from food they shove down their gullets?
Good job reading faggot, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.

>> No.4429155

>>4429126

He does have everything figured out, you just don't understand simple physics.

Having a disese or taking a drug that affects your metabolism can alter your metabolic rate. That simply changes the amount of food you need to eat to maintain your weight. It does not, however, change the basic fact that your weight equals your calories consumed minus calories burned. It simply changes how many calories your body burns compared to an average person. This is simple conservation of energy, one of the most fundamental facts of physics.

Fat comes from food. If you do not eat more calories than you burn you cannot gain weight, no matter what kind of drug you're taking or what kind of condition you have. It's physically impossible.

>> No.4429157

>>4429155
>B-but muh glands! YOU'RE HURTING PEOPLE'S FEELINGS WITH YOUR IGNORANCE OF OUR PAIN>>4429155

>> No.4429159

>>4429146

It's more complex? You've been consistently asked how, and failed to answer. Must be your specific genius and maturity that lets you claim there's another side but not specify it. In other words, you're simply sophomoric.

Every porker over 250 lbs is eating too much - there's simply no physical process that doesn't follow the laws of thermodynamics. A 5'10" person doing such has to be taking in a least 2550 calories a day to maintain their high weight.

>> No.4429164

>>4429155

Oh, understanding simple physics? HOW EDGY!

>> No.4429163

>>4428580
This would stop most people from going to the restaurant. Healthy weight, overweight, and underweight

>> No.4429166

>>4429164
Physicists are ableist scum and physics should be banned because it hurts my feelings.

>> No.4429167

>>4429157
>quotes post twice
Y-YOU SURE SHOWED THOSE FAT FAGGOTS ANON-KUN! Don't shake and rage too hard, your bite-sized vegan meal might fall off your ethically harvested bamboo desk.

>> No.4429170

>>4429167
He didn't even quote the post twice.

>> No.4429172

>>4429159
>It's more complex? You've been consistently asked how, and failed to answer.
>HE THINKS I'M THE SAME PERSON HE'S BEEN ARGUING WITH
What is ANONYMOUS you dumb fuck? BWAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my fucking god, it's not a name you fucking child, this isn't me running without a trip, fuck go back to plebbit or something.

>> No.4429174

>>4429170
>>4429155
>B-but muh glands! YOU'RE HURTING PEOPLE'S FEELINGS WITH YOUR IGNORANCE OF OUR PAIN>>4429155

>4429155 twice
>not quoting it twice
Please r3ddit, please. I know our system of commenting here at 4chan is difficult to understand, but please ponder before responding.

>> No.4429177

>>4429172

Way to try and change the subject to a non-issue, faggot. If people insisting that fat fucks are simply eating too much are being obtuse for effect, what then is the REAL reason people are fat?

>> No.4429180

>>4429177
Clearly the vast majority of fat people have glandular conditions which are reaching epidemic levels.

>> No.4429185

>>4429180

Clearly. Anyone unable to understand that 40% of Americans have bodies which magically generate energy from the quantum flux is just a child who thinks they have the world figured out. Real maturity is in discarding all knowledge like a poor man's Socrates.

>> No.4429191

>>4429185
I know right? Why can't those ignorant fools just understand that 40% of the population has incredibly rare genetic problems that also defy physics? It's not hard to understand.

>> No.4429197

>>4429191

They're just sad little men trying to be EDGY on 4chan. It's not like obesity has significant social costs, or can cause consequences for others! In fact, I'm so mature I don't even know what the word externality means!

>> No.4429205

>>4429197
I'm pretty sure "externality" is just a made up word used by bigots to justify their hate. Also, since you used the word "edgy", that pretty much makes you automatically right.

>> No.4429208

>>4428562
Add something deep fried and starchy to the menu. Fatties will flock to it and get filled up quickly, while people will continue to eat normally.

>> No.4429224

i swear to god thats philladelphia phil collins

>> No.4429283

>>4428569
This... is a very bad idea. I don't know about where you live, but where I live fat people see small wood chairs as some kind of damn challenge.

Be ready to get sued because some fat person hurt themselves because the wooden chair fucking exploded underneath them.

>> No.4429289

>>4429224

Bigot

>> No.4429295

>>4429224
Who is Philladelphia phil collins?

>> No.4429365

There are still fat-apologists on 4chen?

Must be newfag ledditors.

>> No.4429371

>>4429295
>Philladelphia phil collins?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/16/richard-collins-trailer-park-boys-actor-dies_n_3092333.html

>> No.4429439

>>4428606
This would actually make a difference.

>> No.4429445

>>4429365
>muh fat hate

>> No.4429454

>>4429445
>muh feelings

>> No.4429475

>>4429454
Feelings? lel

go back to tumblr, they like to talk about feelings there

>> No.4429477

>>4429454

>I ate muh feelings

>> No.4429629

buffet style ayce resturants anywhere, any culture. There is a place called "china garden" and they have really good "westernized" food for about 12 bucks.( beef and broccoli, orange chicken, shrimp on rice,veggies- very good and generous portions. but they also maintain an ayce bar for about 9 bucks, and it is crap. junk and attended by fat ass grazers, snot nose kids and others waiting for the next batch of frozen shrimp, It is about to close them down. 600 yards away is a different ayce place, used to be a steak house, but now it is pay in advance, ten bucks a head
+ two for a drink, pick up a plate and serve your self from our vast choice of cheap meats, caned veggies and soft serve almost ice cream Meanwhile in between is a nice seafood place. No salad or other bars, ( you do have a choice, small garden salad or coleslaw, baked potato, fries or rice). about the same price -.8 bucks for a huge plate of cheap fried popcorn shrimp, < 20 bucks for 4 jumbo shrimp, 4 big scallops, 4 oysters, broiled or fried, your choice. water is free, coffee, tea is a buck , soda or milk, 1.50, free refills and they bring it to you. guess which place you can hardly get in the door, day or night, whenever they choose to be open, no "specials" or advertising ?

>> No.4429737

>mfw there are actual guides out there to cheating the buffet system

Lardasses ruin everything they get their greasy fat fuck fingers on.

>> No.4429758

>>4429737
Edgy. It's like a fatty ate your dog or something.

>> No.4429765

Higher tables and stools/chairs, smaller plates

>> No.4429769

>>4428585
>>4428575
Paying by the pound will result in immediate profit loss. Worst thing you could do.

>>4428578
this is correct. Smaller plates will result in less food eaten.

>> No.4429770

>>4429737
Indeed. Do you want this fattass in your restaurant?

http://youtu.be/czq_QIUQIRY

>> No.4429777

>>4429769
i forgot
>>4428595
put some variation of this up. This amazing all you can eat asian buffet by me has a variation of this. theres is a paper on every buffet sneeze guard. They are doing very well.

>> No.4429782

>smaller plates
>smaller batches of new food for the buffet, meaning the fatties have to wait until new food comes out
>Push the liquor

>> No.4429783

>>4428578

This is probably your best solution. If I recall correctly, studies show that how much a person eats is related to what size plate they choose. Probably best to search for those.

Also fatties will need to make an extra trip, which they might too tired to do and just call it.

>> No.4429790

>>4429758
There are way too many people running around /ck/ right now, shrieking, "Edgy! Edgy! Edgar Edge McEdgerston!"

How about you go picket Samoa Air for weight-based charges for airline tickets.

>> No.4429819 [DELETED] 

FUCKING HYPERCARRY VLAD

>> No.4429821

>>4429075
Why would you even think this is a great idea? Fatties are going to drink soda whether it's free or not.

>> No.4429842
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4429842

This thread is fucking horrid.

It has transcended malignant cunt into some uncharted realm of shit-fuck that no thread on /ck/ has ever done before. And the faggot stillborn mods that are supposed to manage this board just allow this bullshit to run free, destroying what could have been one of the only worthwhile boards on 4chan.

tl;dr: fuck everything and I hope it dies

>> No.4429849

it's simple, remove meat from buffee items, use less fat, etc. Make it a "healthy" buffe, and you'll get the hipster crowd and get rid of fatties.

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4429866

>>4429842

>> No.4429878
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>>4429842

>> No.4429880

I went to an Indian buffet for lunch this afternoon and they had a sign that read "we graciously ask you to take only portions that you can finish," seems like that would work in OP's case - that way you discourage people from taking enormous amounts of food by appealing to their sense of decency (most people understand that avoiding waste is a good thing), without coming across as whining about how the restaurant's profitability.

And for the record, I still ate like an NFL linebacker, but only because that meal was my breakfast and I was also fueling up in preparation for an afternoon of bicycling.

>> No.4429886

Ideally there would be price discrimination based on weight, either normal weight price or overweight price.

You could have a 2-3 plate limit per customer which they get when they are seated. Also charge more for drinks such as soda and make healthier drinks like iced tea cheaper.

>> No.4429890

>>4429886

the problem with a two-option approach is defining where you set the cutoff point between one and another. Then there's the obvious forthcoming lawsuits and other legal BS once someone is offended by being stuck in the overweight category.

Pay by weight is easy, simple to implement, and fair for all involved. You pay for the amount of food you eat. Eat less pay less. Eat more pay more.

>> No.4429894

>>4429890
>Pay by weight is easy, simple to implement, and fair for all involved. You pay for the amount of food you eat. Eat less pay less. Eat more pay more.

This also helps against the skinny as hell kids who just pack everything in

>> No.4429897

>>4429849
>buffee
>buffe

Son, I got bad news for ya.

>> No.4429909

>>4429770
there are no words

>> No.4429970

put up signs that say they will charge for unfinished plates
>that feel when fat people finish their plates always
its the skinny people with kids who dont finish plates
BUT you can still charge them
i would 10$ is a fine price for people wasting food

>> No.4429978

>chinese buffet
>good

>> No.4429988

Provide small plates
add msg to food
Give large drinks
Make them think health conscious by putting up sings and shit

>> No.4429990

Make it so you have to ask your waiter or whatever for a plate
Put up a sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone who has consumed unreasonable portions"
Actually do this
There's a pizza buffet near where I live that does that. I don't eat more than one plate because I don't want to ask for another, but I love seeing fatasses get turned away.
Couple people have tried to take it to the city but the city's like lolno

>> No.4429994
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4429994

>mfw there is a burger place here or was here that would give anyone over 350lbs all they can eat free burgers anytime of the day

Its called get this
Heart Attack Grill

>> No.4430014

>>4429025

Mad fatfuck detected, what's wrong fatass, haven't shit in 3 days because you're colon is filled with so much rage and reeses peanut butter cups?

>> No.4430017

instead of all-you-can-eat, charge by the plate

>> No.4430020

>>4430017
Or add a per-plate charge for plates of food after the second.

>> No.4430036

>>4429994
>>4429994
i heard about that. 2 of their spokepersons died from heart attacks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/john-alleman-heart-attack-grill_n_2668586.html

>> No.4430038

>>4430017
>people just start piling as much as they can onto each plate

>> No.4430051

ugh, my parents run a restaurant with a buffet on sundays. you can actually see the profit slipping away right in front of your eyes when the fatties get up from their tables and stomp their way to the serving area where they literally create food mountains on their plates

>> No.4430077

>>4428606
Also would mean more walking, which fatties hate

>> No.4430083

Make it all you can eat, but only the waiter can bring you the food instead of you just going up and grabbing whatever you want cafeteria style. That way you can still technically eat as much as you want, but most people aren't going to gorge when that'd require them to tell the waiter to bring them 5 main courses

>> No.4430087

>>4430083
but now you have to pay for a waiter. Doing away with waiters is one of the things that make buffets profitable

>> No.4430088

>>4428618
Oh god, I smell a new scheme.

>> No.4430103

Tell me where your uncle's restaurant is OP
If I'm in the area I'll show up with my eyes taped and shout "CHIN TOO FAT YOU EAT LESS FOOD HERE FORTUNE COOKIE YOU GET OUT NOW"

>> No.4431346

That feel when being fat not out of overeating but from being lazy

>> No.4431357

>>4431346

Keep telling yourself that.

>> No.4431362

>>4431357
And I have a terrible, but not excessive diet.

>> No.4431368

>>4429849

I actually would love a buffet like that - the problem with most of them is it's just food for fatties (fried shrimp, eggrolls and the like). I'd love to see a buffet with steamed fish and fresh veggies, so you can get a variety of things rather than just massive amounts of fattie chow.

>> No.4431374

>>4431362

>not excessive

if you are eating more than 1300-1500 calories a day its excessive for someone with a sedentary lifestyle like yourself.

>> No.4431379

>>4431362
It's impossible mot simply gain weight unless you're eating more calories then you need. You are eating in excess.

>> No.4431393

How does one even lose money on a Chinese Buffet? All the food is like 60% breading anyway?

>> No.4431406

>>4431393
If you think it's such a sure fire way to make money then open one yourself.

>> No.4431416

>>4431346
Wrong wrong wrong.

Most people assume that being at a healthy weight is like 80% exercise, 20% wha tyou eat, when in reality it is the opposite!

>> No.4431458

There's a lesbian buffet (yes, I know it sounds stupid, but that's what the establishment calls itself) in my area. Lesbians are notoriously cheap. The way the buffet is run is as follows:
$10 gets you in with five dining tickets and five drink tickets.
The buffet area is sectioned off with a ticket-taker at the exit.
Each plate costs one ticket; diners may choose to mound their plates high, but if anything is found over-hanging or falling off, the plate costs two tickets.
Drinks cost one or two tickets.
Diners may choose alcoholic drinks (1-2 tickets depending on the drink), bottled water or soft drinks (each one ticket).
Tap water, no ice, is free.
A bucket of ice with free refills is one drink ticket.

I think it's a good idea, but the food is terrible. It's most bar-bites. The wings are okay, at least.

>> No.4431471

>>4428562
Start charging for leftover food on plates. If someone leaves a plate stacked with food, charge them a 'fine' for doing so. Be reasonable, obviously - only charge them extra if they've left quite a lot on the plate. I know that's pretty common practice at a lot of buffets, because so many people stack their plates and then realise they can't eat it. The amount of food wasted at buffets is ridiculous.

>> No.4431476

>>4431458
Interesting concept

>> No.4431481

>>4431393

I don't see how someone can say this, when I goto a chinese buffet I fill my plate with nothing but meat basically, I go out of my way to avoid filling things like rice and bread.

>> No.4431485

>>4431458

Sounds really complicated, and would probably turn people off just because of the weird system.

Unfamiliarity breeds contempt.

>> No.4431502

>>4428562
Something you need to know about fatties, they love really cheap, fatty, filling food filled with carbs and sugar and fat

big, sugary donuts are cheap and filling. try and add some cheap, fatty and filling.

fatties also hate being uncomfortable. slightly lower tables, higher chairs.

or how about some posters about healthy eating? it'll make the really fat ones feel really bad about themselves. mirrors do the same thing

>> No.4431506

>>4431485
The place is super popular, oddly enough. I hear their brunch is good, reinforcing my belief that lesbians can't cook anything well except breakfast and brunch.

>> No.4431527
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meanwhile, at OP's uncle's place...

>> No.4431543

>>4431506
>lesbians
>good cooks
>brunch

they must get some Gays to cook the brunch

>> No.4431568

I know I won't be able to further elaborate or cite stuff but physics =/= biology. I do tend to agree that fat people mostly got fat out of eating too much but i don't think the converse is true.

>Food energy is energy that an animal (including humans) derives from its food, through the process of cellular respiration, the process of joining oxygen with the molecules of food (aerobic) or of reorganising the atoms within the molecules for anaerobic respiration.

quoted from wikipedia

I just don't believe that the total amount of kCals can explain why some skinnyfags can gain. It's just so simplistic to explain it with thermodynamics and when there are so many more biological processes (that I cannot name, yes i know) involved.

>> No.4431590

>>4431568
*can't gain

>> No.4431592

>>4431568

None of said processes are exempt from the laws of thermodynamics. If you're gaining weight, it's from stored fat. Which has an energy source, and given the way humans work the ONLY entry of energy is through food.

>> No.4431623

>>4431592
i know i'm being anal, but i dont think you only gain weight from stored fats. But you'd have to go about explaining how everything you eat is converted into glycogen, amino acids, lipids, various wastes and many metabolites. I know I sound like a huge faggot for suggesting stuff and not providing sources, but like what if you know, not everything is actually retained and of course it isn't. But the thing I get from most people on 4chan going like muh thermodynamics is that kCal is everything that you do retain from eating, and I think that's just way overly simplistic and erroneous

>> No.4431627

I'd just raise the prices. Sure you can decrease the number of tables and chairs, adding more booths, but I wouldn't bother.

On a funny note I saw this very overweight lady getting some coke at a Chinese buffet. She filled up four glasses. I thought it weird, because she was struggling to do it. She goes back to the table. They all were for her! I was dumbstruck. What weirded me out the most was why get four glasses. Its a buffet. Finish one, get another.

>> No.4431632

>>4431623
i mean if we were just talking about heat and light production, sure that might seem more acceptable, but biology is just so much more complicated, I don't think thermodynamics could explain everything about changes in body mass

>> No.4431652

three years ago I weighed 255lbs. my all time high. doctor warned me about diabetes and heart disease and all that crap. couldn't get a girlfriend. had trouble sleeping. all that shit that goes with being a fat fuck. anyways i lost the weight an i'm now down to 160lbs with a BMI of 23 (i'm 5'11"). anyways to the point:

as a former fat fuck, fatasses love buffets. if we can make it to the lunch buffet thats fucking awesome and makes our day. we like to sit in booths since we arent very sociable and away from people.

what would bother me is a waiting area with normal people and being around normal people. if you really want to do some damage to the fatties. sit them in the middle instead of booths out in the open so everyone can see them. it'll make them uncomfty. once we get that plate of food we don't give a fuck though. so next thing you do is don't refill the drinks and cleap up the table. let those dishes pile up. it'll be embarassing. just treat them like shit. get servers to act busy or keep busy and away from them. this is the best strategy without modify anything to the restaurant

>> No.4431653

>>4431623
It's been proven. You can eat nothing but cookies and lose weight as long as the kcals are less than what you burn in a day. Of course if you are nothing but cookies you'd get sick from lack of nutrition like vitamins, etc.

>> No.4431662

>>4431632
It doesn't. But it won't stop that autistic retard from spewing >muh thermodynamics over and over again

>> No.4431671

>>4431653
sure that I can sorta accept, but yeah maybe my rant was a little off-topic, I was mainly saying all this to say that fat people did in fact overeat but that skinny people might not be skinny because they didn't eat enough

>> No.4431665

>>4431652
My fat friends hate booths. Can't fit their stomachs in.

>> No.4431673

>>4431632
It can explain a basic fucking limit. If you burn more energy in a day than you take in, you simply cannot gain weight. There are of course person-by-person differences in terms of how efficiently they happen to process food and how much energy they burn just in stand-by, but conservation of energy doesn't get violated.

>> No.4431675

>>4431627

Each trip up to the buffet is like a hike for a fat person, she just wanted to keep her exercise to a minimum.

>> No.4431698

>>4428562
A "No Fat Chicks" T Shirt on the wall.

>> No.4431699

>>4431673
>There are of course person-by-person differences in terms of how efficiently they happen to process food

The burn more energy in a day than you take in seems like a reasonable enough statement but, i just think that most people think that people put too much emphasis on this rule, and that the whole processing food part is secondary.

It just rustles my jimmies when I hear internet people going muh thermodynamics when they hear about skinnyfags who are unable to gain, when the TD people don't have all the variables in hand

>> No.4431732

>>4431699
but the issue is still the same. If they don't need as much food, they don't need to eat as much. There may be some psychoanalytic emotional drive to eat more, or whatever, but they don't need to. The problem most fat people have is eating for emotional reasons. Full stop.

If you just ate when you needed food, the whole metabolism issue doesn't come into play.

>> No.4431743

Put the restaurant at the top of a long staircase or ladder.
Use smaller doors.

>> No.4431753

>>4431671
One day there is gonna be an armband or something that tells you exactly how many calories you burned that day. I think it will be a great help, given the inaccurate calculations we do now.

>> No.4431765

>>4431543
Gay men can't into brunch. Most of them enjoy eating brunch, but they are terrible at preparing it.

>> No.4431842

>>4429155
Classic edgy STEM teen response.

MUH PHYSICS.

>> No.4431862

>>4431765

No. Just wrong.

>> No.4431868

>>4431732
Again, I do agree that fat people eat too much, saying it's all emotion is a big overgeneralization
>>4431753
Well okay let's look at this armband thing and how we would go about making a device like this. It sure is gonna be quite complicated. It's not like you could just rely on say fluctuations in body temperature to give you an accurate count.

A current passing through a resistor, a gas turning into plasma, an explosion made with pure sodium into water can all be explained roughly by one or two chemical of phsyical processes.

In the case of something as complex as say fluctuations in body mass, there are gonna be way more factors, variables and processes to account for. Roughly when you look at it, you might be able to attribute a very observable change in body mass with how much food you eat, but there's like plenty of shit that goes inbetween these 2 things most people could observe easily.
You'd have to think of all the changes in physical state that foods goes through in the digestive system, all the chemical reactions your chewed up, tossed up food is subjected to by various compound, understanding how all these chemicals react with each other. And it's not like we fully grasp all these variables either. This is just so much more complex than calculating how much heat is given off in a simple chemical reaction between 2-3 compounds, or measuring a current that flows through a resistor.

Sure thermodynamics does have a part to play in fluctuations in body mass, but there are just way too many other processes to go with it that you cannot just go like it's the main thing that would explain the very observable changes in body mass. TD might play a part in all those smaller processes, but a statement like "if you are skinny, it's because you don't eat enough" is just non very sound.

but yes fat people do get fat from fatting

>> No.4431883

>>4431862
Gay men /think/ they can cook, but really, all they can make are 1950s kitchen kitsch. Brunch is not a part of that.
Lesbians are the reigning kings of brunch.

>> No.4431897

Smaller plates. If that doesn't work, you're gonna be stuck with going pay-by-the-pound.

>> No.4431918

>>4431883
>be gay
>be awesome cook

>> No.4431956

>>4431842

Fatty, instead of crying and calling people edgy, go out and run. Then learn about conservation of energy.

>> No.4432014

>MUH THERMODYNAMICS

>> No.4432191

Rearrange the layout of the restaurant. Put the seating area as far away from the expensive items as possible. In between put the cheaper items, as well as desserts.

A lot of people are conditioned that they have to 'finish their dinner' before they can have dessert. Making them constantly walk past the desserts all the time will make it more likely that their next trip will be their last run, which will probably be dessert.

Also, you can save some money by removing one expensive (or semi expensive) item from the menu every day. The next day, bring it back then remove another. So on and so forth. It won't make enough of an impact on your selection to upset the regular customers, but every day you'll be saving a little bit of money. You might also consider taking your 5 most expensive items, and only offering one of them on specific weekdays. Advertise these specials heavily, and this will help increase business of weekdays, which are traditionally slower (kind of like a 'loss leader' approach). Keep the full selection on the weekends.

>> No.4432383

A paying customer should eat as much as they want.

>> No.4432401

>>4432383
Fatty pls.

>> No.4432450

>>4428654
MSG goes in all fields.

>> No.4432465

those all seem like logical suggestions, but without marketing research, it's a little hard to know which policies to implement or not

>> No.4432820

>>4432383
Yep. What they should do is raise prices and quality.